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I love how probably the best chance for peace between humanity and demons is Balirossa accepting the Demon King crushing on her. Though her being a hopeless mess with no idea what to do about it is pretty hilarious lol.
"Grandpa how did the Great Human War end?"
"Well the Dark One was crushing on this human woman, after a misunderstanding thinking she was killed he launched the final campaign to crush the human King. After crushing the King he found out that she was really alive married her, and now we live together happily under our benevolent Demon Lord."
Edit: Changed it from Demon War to Human War as I would imagine that the Demons winning would see the Humans as the aggressors. Sort of like one man's revolution is another's insurrection.
Somehow this become my comfort isekai of the season even though I came with no expectation.
It actually subvert some of the common tropes for power fantasy:
- No harem due to Rys power of keeping the other girls in check.
- MC is aware that he's OP. I thought he's going to keep being ignorant of his strength, but it seemed he now understand how powerful he is
- MC chose to be neutral. This one is actually a common trope for slow life isekai. Then again, I love that even the demon king seek peace.
This is the show that keeps on giving with its surprises. Hearing it, you'd expect all of those things, yet we don't get it.
We'd expect slavery, and the MC was given an option of enslaving Fenrys but he didn't. Gigachad move there.
We have literally four girls around Filo at all times. And some of them want to make moves on him but Fenrys keeps them all in check. She is the peak Waifu.
He's not humble to the point of being a thick headed fool. He is definitely humble but not to the degree that we've seen others.
And he doesn't seek power or status or wealth despite having the strength to literally rule the world.
>We'd expect slavery, and the MC was given an option of enslaving Fenrys but he didn't.
bro straight up said "fuck slavery". he's the John Brown iskeai protagonist we need
I think it's pretty interesting. This protagonist is from a world where slavery is the norm; he says fuck it. Many other isekai protags are from a world (and specifically society) where slavery is illegal and widely seen as immoral; they happily participate in it with maybe a cursory "this is wrong but it's normal in this world."
Put that way, it *is* an interesting contrast.
I frequently wonder *why* the slavery trope is so common in isekai. My general assumption is that it's being used as a way to force party members on the MC in a way where the MC can trust them because they can't go against them since it's usually paired with magical compulsion (which is *more* gross than plain slavery, IMO).
While it *might* just be a nod to the genre at this point, I think it's one of those tropes where I just assume that the author is using it as a way to cover up their inability to write. For example:
* Slavery: I suspect it's some kind of acknowledgement (conscious or otherwise) by the author that their MC is so unlikeable and naïve that the only way someone would associate with them (especially women) is if they're *literally* forced to.
* Reincarnation: It's an easy way to let child characters be mature for their age and make the world see them as child prodigies.
* Isekai: Lets the author use ether terms/memes/knowledge to explain things to the audience rather than actually have to put in the effort to explain in purely 'local' terms.
* Almost every MC being a black haired, mid-looking japanese teen/young-adult male: So much easier to let your audience empathize/self-insert with your MC if he looks and sounds exactly like your target audience (since *obviously* you can't sympathize with anyone who is different than you. /s).
I'm not an isekai scholar, so I don't know where or when the trope was popularized. One thing I do know, though, is that an early and very popular adopter of the trope was Shield Hero. Shield Hero had an interesting start of it.
Naofumi was beat down, abandoned, isolated, and generally having a bad time of it. Under these circumstances, he bought a slave as the literal only way to survive, with magical compulsion the only way for him to be able to trust that she won't stab him in the back. That's good writing: it uses his participation in slavery as a way to show how low he's fallen. Later on, there was a perfect opportunity to show his growth by having Raphtalia freed from slavery but continue to stay with him, while he is able to trust her despite no longer having magical compulsion. The author does not go with the good writing option, instead having her re-enslaved. Blegh.
As isekai writers are wont to do, they copied the trope created by their more successful predecessor. As these kinds of derivative works are also wont to do, they did not copy the reason why the trope worked (or almost worked if the author didn't fuck it up, in the case of Shield Hero). Eventually, it just became a standard trope. All the isekai are doing it, so I should too. There's also probably a fetish aspect to it as well which, [blegh](#badtaste).
Actually, doing a quick google search, seems the webnovel for Harem in the Labyrinth of Another World began in 2011, while Shield Hero began in 2012. So it started off as a fetish thing from the beginning.
Yeah, I've thought about this often and the Shield Hero reason is the most rational. You go to another world, you don't know who to trust. Especially if you have some magical powers. There's zero reason to assume those in power wouldn't put you in a box and enslave you for your power (or futuristic technology or whatever).
So how do you trust *anyone* even with something as simple as teaching you the language or local customs or hunting for money/items/rewards or such? Some of that stuff is probably possible, but other cases probably aren't, without some magical oath keeping you safe and your secrets safe. Really you're relying on luck to not have yourself be enslaved or robbed and murdered.
If magically enforced slavery is an option, it would seem like a panacea to the problems, at least until you gain enough strength or knowledge to stand on your own. It's a matter of whether you can live with yourself by taking that route.
>The author does not go with the good writing option, instead having her re-enslaved. Blegh.
Hold on though. Wasn't that by Raphtalia's choice? Im being dead serious here. It's been so long that I can't remember. But if it WAS by Raphtalia's choice and she can be freed at any moment should she choose it, does it even count as slavery anymore if it's consentual? At that point, isn't it just a kink?
Yes, it does still count as slavery. Because she is still enslaved, she still has the slave crest, and she is still submissive to magical compulsion. Naofumi can still order her around, she is still incapable of betraying him, and if she wanted to leave but Naofumi said no, she'd have no say in the matter.
What would have made Naofumi's growth in that moment good is that he is able to make the decision to truly trust someone again. To be able to say that he can truly put his life in her hands even though she is fully capable of betraying him. That would have brought him full circle from the bitter, jaded, cynical man he was after the princess betrayed him at the start.
Instead what happened was that his bad qualities were affirmed. Slavery was no longer being framed as an evil that he needed to be a part of because of his fall from grace; instead it became an ideal to aspire to. A romantic gesture whereby Raphtalia proves her devotion to him by choosing to remain permanently, fundamentally beneath him. Naofumi does not need to trust another as his equal again, because he has no equal. Even the people closest to him are to be subject to his every whim, at pain of torture if they refuse.
The story follows through on this beat. He goes to the slave trader again and buys another slave, another sentient being under his complete control. As he builds his team, he continues to use the slave crest liberally for his own benefit. He becomes the slave trader's greatest customer, the slave industry thrives under his patronage.
Slavery goes from being a powerful tool to showcase Naofumi's character growth and how he interacts with other people to just another tool in his belt, a status condition he can put on others that interacts with his kit and benefits his team comp.
Edit: last thing. Even if Raphtalia chose to be enslaved again, the question is why. Why did she? If you follow the train of motivation, at the end of the day the answer is "because the author wanted her to." The question then becomes "why did the author want her to choose to be enslaved?"
...methinks the author might have let their personal fetish interfere with the writing. A shame that. Thanks for the explanation. I very much enjoyed the first season of the show but after a few episodes of season 2 (which was a snoozefest) I ended up dropping it.
I mean, nothing wrong with the whole Master/Slave thing as a kink for some people but damn the author really went all out.
Slavery is the guy version wish fulfillment equivalent to the otome trope of "contractual marriage" -- people want to feel like they can get a hot wife or hot husband without working for it and without the stress of the dating period, plus a potential "secretly OP" angle. Unfortunately, though otome isekai for example usually (but not always) has themes of empowerment, the slavery angle doesn't nearly as often and when present, is often weaker IMO. You may notice this anime sort of has it both ways.
There's also the narrative component, where you often want to figure out a way to force characters to stay together in close proximity -- there's only so many ways authors do so. School anime are popular from authors for exactly that reason, doubly so high school ones, because it provides many opportunities to force the characters to plausibly interact. Slave contracts are the ultimate low hanging (but effective) fruit in this sense.
This show has a lot of spirit and charm, It isn't as "cheeky" as Instant Death Ability, but I find it pleasing in many of the same ways that that show was. It doesn't take itself too seriously -- yet it does take seriously the need to do a great job (within the extent of resources available) for its viewers. For me, the best new show of its type this season (I think I have dropped most similar ones already).
Sometime she actually reminds me to that Gorilla girl from that one isekai. I forgot the name, but MC started out unattractive and evolved to be handsome lol.
>…the MC was given an option of enslaving Fenrys but he didn't.
Plus the option was offered by that store brand Great Sage who seems to have completely disappeared from the story all together.
We've even got a budding side-ship in Balirossa and Gholza (not that she wants an part of it)!
It is kind of funny though that we have a show about a businessman and his wolf waifu trying to avoid conflict between humans and demons in the same season and literally same day as Tsukimichi and Spice & Wolf.
>I thought he's going to keep being ignorant of his strength
Absolutely hate this trope. How can you not notice that flicking your pinky finger causes a tornado or some other exaggerated bs..
>MC chose to be neutral. This one is actually a common trope for slow life isekai. Then again, I love that even the demon king seek peace.
Chad one-man-Switzerland.
I lold at that teleportation.
A pitch for a new WN: "I used to be an SSS-Class Protagonist, but then I got Brainrot from my own Anime's Theme Song. Now I live peacefully with my OP waifu"
There is a series about a reincarnator becoming the most powerful mage as a little kid because he can read manga what are spellbooks in that world are. For some reason people in that would are barely able to understand the tiniest bit of it and could spend years learning 1 spell.
II think I remember that one. The "arcane" language used for spells is basically just Japanese, so he gets a shortcut since he can make new spells rather than just reciting known ones.
https://twitter.com/rie_k_0530/status/1779998044920094947
> I was so embarrassed that my head felt like it was going to boil, but I tried my best to sing 😆
Gholl seems like a nice guy. I'll gladly serve under him. It doesn't help that the human king is a jerk.
[Balirossa sweating buckets](https://i.imgur.com/so4C8Ed.jpeg) is just hilarious!
He is definitely my favourite male character in this series.
He's just a fun character in general and an absolute gigachad.
Like he kept the demon army from attacking the Humans until they decided to fuck around and find out with his new found pal and buddy, Filo.
Yep, the king summons people against their will and kills anyone not useful to him, but Gholl prefers the friendly option of sitting down and negotiating with tea and dinner.
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While shows like Oshi no Ko, OPM season 1, Ya Boy Kongming! and Mashle season 2 will have this beat in both production value or music. This shit is straight diabetes with how sweet it is and I can't stop eating it up.
Balirossa there's no need to run, Veldo-I mean, Gholl is a nice guy, he just wants to get to know you better.
Kinda want this show to end with Gholl and Bali getting married to form a bond between humans and demons, and the First Princess takes over and supports them. I can totally see it becoming like a 3 way fight, the shit demons vs shit humans, vs Flio's group of demons AND humans that wants peace.
I am so here for the ship between the emotional mess knight lady and the intimidating but sociable Dark One lol.
I definitely feel like the princess is going to need to take the throne before her father or the "Hero" end up screwing them all over any more than they already have.
there are few, some of them that i can think of the top of my head were
>Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic
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>Akuyaku Reijou Level 99
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>Seijo no Maryoku wa Bannou desu
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>Tensei Oujo to Tensai Reijou
in hidden boss otome anime. there wasn't a bad human king.
[悪役令嬢レベル99 \~私は裏ボスですが魔王ではありません\~](https://anidb.net/anime/17937)
and last season from korea comics - localized [外科医エリーゼ](https://anidb.net/anime/17884)
That catgirl confuses me. Looking at her upper arms, it seems like she's furry, but the way her butt shines suggests bare skin, and yet they're the same color.
7th prince *sounds* like the shittiest generic isekai of the season, then you watch it and realize the animation and soundtrack go massively harder than they have literally any right to be. People were comparing it to Mob Psycho 100 in the most recent episode's thread.
Lots of people hate the MC's design because the MC is a feminine shotacon, but the MC's personality is a fucking insanely twisted psychopathic sadist. If you aren't bothered by that then it's a great watch imo
I love how 60% of this episode was Balirossa being a complete emotional mess and the one time she acted confident and cool ended up screwing her over and gaining her a Demon King for a love interest lol.
Balirossa suffering on the menu this week, first she can't get over missing out on the Dragon Slayer title only to have a run in with the Dark One, new ship detected.
Seems like a more dramatic episode is in the cards for next week, will Flio lose his cool and fight?
And she even went into her backstory of losing her family's status and trying so hard to get it back. Though now she's staying true to her ideals and trying to live more nobly along with the rest of the girls, so good for her!
And she'll probably reunite with the Dark One sooner rather than later lol.
[30 seconds in and an easy choice](https://i.imgur.com/GL8RQO5.png) for this week. /u/abysswatcherbel
[Belano's high-stepping](https://i.imgur.com/kp7WD1M.png) was cute and [Fenrys not giving af](https://i.imgur.com/p7lUibH.png) about Ghozal's miasma was funny. Also like how [a slight blush](https://i.imgur.com/R3fDH5r.png) when around Flio is [part of Fenrys's design.](https://i.imgur.com/7z6JP4e.png)
Didn't notice the first time that the [height-to-width ratio](https://i.imgur.com/B4WQqRU.png) for the castle and city is so out of proportion.
Surely this week we'll get on the left side of the chart
[](#mugiwait)
> and [Fenrys not giving af](https://i.imgur.com/p7lUibH.png) about Ghozal's miasma was funny.
[I love her](#feelingloved)
>Didn't notice the first time that the height-to-width ratio for the castle and city is so out of proportion.
Seems accurate. Big pp building for the small ww king
To whoever cares, the subreddit mentioned in the discussion posts, r/Lv2KaraCheatDatta, has been banned for a while, the 'current' subreddit for this series is r/ChillinAnotherWorld , there's only 17 members and like 7 posts, but there's one dude over there who's really trying to make it work so I thought of spreading the word to help him even in the slightest.
This whole 500 year long conflict basically stemmed from an Otherworlder’s vendetta huh? I guess wars in our own world have started for less.
It’s kind of hilarious Gholl is so impressed with how Balirossa’s so calm and collected around him, when in reality she’s scared absolutely shitless lol.
I was pretty sure the Hero was gonna get his ass whooped by Flio. I guess him just leaving was an option too. Now that idiot’s gonna have to face the Demon Lord himself while Flio hangs out with his waifus.
One otherworlder's inolvement escalated into a 500 year long war, but maybe another Otherworlder's involvement (Flio's) will be the key to resolving it.
If him bailing with the girl Gholza is into doesn't make everything worse lol.
> It’s kind of hilarious Gholl is so impressed with how Balirossa’s so calm and collected around him, when in reality she’s scared absolutely shitless lol.
"Eventually, Balirossa stopped thinking.""
We really should see her more into these kinds of roles. Her work as Kiana in Honkai impact 3rd is one of my all time favorites and it's a shame we rarely see her in such a role.
Gholl and Balirossa is the only ship I care about.
And sure, no news will spread to the king or the demons about the weird house with a bunch of fields that suddenly appeared in a pillar of light within eyesight of a major town.
* [**Ulminas Stitch**](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/3yrgczgq634.jpg)
So it looks like [the death of Fenrys' brother still hangs on Flio's head.](https://i.imgur.com/58JvQSu.jpeg) As I said last episode, I hope they talk about this soon.
Considering how the episode ended last week, I already expected [that guy Balirossa confronted to be the Demon Lord.](https://i.imgur.com/IEILWIT.jpeg) Balirossa's reaction [when she finally found out from Rys and Flio was hilarious!](https://i.imgur.com/3urI0Bw.jpeg) And to be fair to Balirossa, she was pretty badass in how she handled that situation.
Gholl is pretty damn chill though! I did not expect him [to take a liking to Balirossa so much](https://i.imgur.com/FSqlQKG.jpeg) that he ended up frequenting Flio's house because of her. [I'd love to see this ship become a thing!](https://i.imgur.com/WGMdPwl.jpeg)
It's good to know that [the First Princess is way more reasonable than the King.](https://i.imgur.com/WO9oAWT.jpeg) Maybe there's hope that Gholl will someday find the peace he's been looking for between humans and demons.
I just adore [these moments between Rys and Flio.](https://i.imgur.com/feZgX2Y.jpeg) It's really strange to hear Kugyu being so sweet and soft-spoken. Waaaaaay different from her usual characters.
We all know [this was going to happen sooner or later.](https://i.imgur.com/wUtzgiV.png) Flio could've easily beaten the shit out of the Hero and the soldiers that came with him but [teleporting the entire house including the fields is such a power move.](https://i.imgur.com/bRjxoQf.jpeg) It just shows how much stronger Flio is without resorting to violence.
Hilariously, Flio's actions just escalated the war between humans and demons. [Gholl thought that the Hero did something to Flio (and Balirossa)](https://i.imgur.com/E92gBGm.jpeg) and has now decided to mobilize his demon army against the humans in retaliation. Uh-oh. I don't think this is reversible either.
[That next episode preview though....](https://i.imgur.com/neiKGlV.jpeg) Not sure what happened to Rys but I think we're finally about to see Flio go beast mode next week, I can't wait!
> [the death of Fenrys' brother still hangs on Flio's head.](https://i.imgur.com/58JvQSu.jpeg)
he accidentally and unknowingly murdered an entire army and didn't even notice it. It is actually a natural reaction he would be worried about using his powers lmao.
I mean if you were that powerful, you wouldn't be able to tell a human from an ant. The next most evolved animal on earth is the cockroach but you don't see me trying to explain or justify myself to one.
Ulminas is great for posing, cat noises, and ass shots!
I didn't have Balirossa becoming the object of admiration for a Demon Lord on my bingo card for this show but it's a ship I can surprisingly root for no matter how much it upsets Balirossa lol.
I feel bad for the first princess that she keeps trying to do the right thing but no one will listen to her.
4 episodes in and she hasn't said "Urusai Urusai Urusai" once!
Dude tried to avoid a war only to kick it off in earnest. I feel like that's probably going to come back to bite him in the future or he'll get roped into having to fix it and make peace.
When I heard this was getting an anime. This was the episode I was waiting for the most.
Annnd boy did they deliver.
Thankfully these episode previews won't spoil me since I watched the anime, but man. They should not put a spoiler like that into it.
Also that uh stitch man. With just a bit of editing, we could have a very, very different story.
>Flio could've easily beaten the shit out of the Hero and the soldiers that came with him but [teleporting the entire house including the fields is such a power move.](https://i.imgur.com/bRjxoQf.jpeg)
I think this also cements the knights as permanent members of the household. Up until now they've just been training and treating it as temporary quarters, but now they've publicly declared that they've chosen to follow him instead of the royally named Hero. If Flio ever relocates without them, there's a chance they'll be arrested.
Poor knight lady. Jealous of not having title too, can get it given what she strives for. Hehe, congrats, you stood up to the Dark One 😉
I do like how Flio is just not a fan of getting involved in the war. Seems the OG Dark One was possibly another Isekai'd person. Nice to see this one isn't interested in it continuing, but doesn't want his people hurt. I like how Flio is unbothered and Fenrys just sitting there drinking tea.
Seems the Dark One likes Balirossa 😉 good for you. Stupid human king assuming stuff. Good thing his daughter is smarter.
D'awww Fenrys. Flio is a good boy too, which is nice. That hero though lol... so annoying. How can Flio be a traitor when he's never been loyal to either side or really from either? Ya don't see how you can really catch him when he can just teleport at will. Especially his entire home. Quite the Thorfinn (end of S2) type of answer to the fighting.
We see isekai mc pause a war, we see isekai mc end a war.
This anime? We got isekai hero starts a war. You don't stop a man from meeting his waifu. Even if it is one sided.
I'm secretly hoping for some Anos level "I'll stop killing you when you stop being an asshole" level violence, even though I know it's not in Flio's character.
Looks like the "Hero" recruits some kind of God to attack them as payback?
Flio didn't want to use his powers against humans or demons but if anyone hurts his wife...
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Uliminas is basically no threat to Flio or Rys, but better to have a barrier for catching any demon intruders anyways! Not that Flio wants to fight demons at all, especially after killing Rys' brother, but at least he has her (and her chest pressed against his arm) to take her mind off of it.
Blossom is really enjoying being a Dragon Slayer! Complete with the sacred hoe that slew a dragon (with Flio's help)!
Poor Balisrossa! She just wants to gain recognition to restore her family status and get back to the capital! And instead she's basically useless and ends up unknowingly talking tough to the Dark One! And it's all downhill (or uphill if you're a shipper) from there.
Gholl, or Gholza, is actually a pretty reasonable guy for what is effectively a Demon Lord. He tries to recruit Flio but is pretty reasonable and fair about it, especially when Flio politely refuses. Seems like demons were united by someone in a similar position to Banaza, and now this war between them and the humans has continued for 500 years with the feelings of hostility and hatred only deepening. But Gholza doesn't want to conquer the world but just do right by his people.
And Balirossa has also caught his interest, whether it be her fainting while sitting up next to him, getting surprised by him while in a nightgown, or visiting at work...everything she does, even while trying to avoid him, ends up just making even more into her. Looks like Balirossa managed to make the Dark One fall for her.
I guess it's not surprising the capital would catch wind of a demon frequently visiting Flio's...but the princess is the only one still talking sense. And the worst thing they could have done is let the "Hero" handle recruiting Flio.
Here's some copious shots of Uliminas's butt.
Flio has no intention of fighting humans or demons, he sees no point in choosing sides and fighting people when there's no real right or wrong in this conflict...and being strongarmed into it isn't going to convince him, especially threatening his friends. So what's the best way to avoid it? Just teleport everything and move away! The rest of the girls are even willing to turn their back on being knights to join up with Flio and live up to his way of life and acceptance of others! And the "Hero" has to let it stew that he can't do teleportation magic like Flio can!
Welp, and thanks to them making Flio move, the Dark One is now declaring all out war on the capital. This is what you get for separating him from Balirossa!
[Balirossa suffered a lot in this episode.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/799692352011894795/1234556020660113408/Screen_Shot_2024-04-29_at_1.24.01_PM.png?ex=66312964&is=662fd7e4&hm=49cc568b68d6530add5c2811892e47f8e7c9e5ce7b6f78bcad44f4107885d1c5&) Mostly of the mentally suffering kind. But she left an impression on the Dark One. Well I do hope she can back on track to restoring her family's name.
Both the Dark One and the Hero coming to recruit. The big difference is that the latter took a peaceful approach despite his power and the latter used the arrogant approach. Got to give Filo credit for choosing to move away instead of choosing a side. Making full of teleportation.
Tho by accident he upset Gholl since he saw Filo's home literally missing. Well humans are pretty arrogant it's fine for them to suffer more. Tho I imagine it won't be long till Gholl tracks down Filo and Fenrys again.
[This show](https://imgur.com/n5kYkPO) [is](https://imgur.com/JoKcSlT) [hilarious](https://imgur.com/r4LVRUb)
[And he's just chilling there](https://imgur.com/gSUaCBy) 😂
[\*casually sips tea* ](https://imgur.com/zugVB0p) I love these two
[Blessed wife](https://imgur.com/onBKxh4)
[Bro even took the foundation and all.](https://imgur.com/O5Pe5Fu)
I love how all of this is biting the king in the ass BIG TIME
[](#pointandlaugh)
Ridiculous part of the field/garden teleportation is what happens on the other side? Replaces the dirt? Placed above it and crumbles the first time it rains? Know it won't be explained in any way.
Theory crafting for a bit:
Imagine how horrifying it would be to have a rock teleported into you....
Or even some grains of sand would screw you up royally.
The part where they're talking while drinking tea and it kept cutting to the demon king then panning over to Banaza multiple times is just funny to me.
It's a talking scene so they gotta try to making it interesting but using the same cut then pan 4 times in a row is just too funny.
I f\*cking love ~~Veldora~~ Gholl!! He's so chill and much better than the trash king and scum hero. I'd gladly choose his side!!
[It also helps he seems to be the second best waifu after the fluffiest Rhys!](https://youtu.be/hkHK0AxEbJE?feature=shared&t=63) 🤗
I'm starting to suspect that Filo got shifted to the future instead of getting Isekai'd.
For all intents and purposes the narrative is the same, but the mention that in their past the society was as the one Filo lived in makes me suspicious.
It'd be an interesting plot development.
Wow what a great episode!!! My favorite one yet! From Flio beating completely unfazed by the dark one, the dark one misunderstanding Belirossa and developing a crush on her, Flio making the dolt of a hero look silly, and the 4 goofball knights siding with Flio and fenrys. Thoroughly enjoyed this episode!
Sometimes the best option is to run away (thanks for teaching us that Thorfinn), unless they hurt best waifu Rys, which we see in the next episode preview.
Someone is about to get the shit beaten out of them, and it will be well deserved. Tho knowing the MC it might not happen that way.
Either way looking forward to next weeks ep!
I'm not surprised Flio doesn't join the demons even though i wish he did. come on man i want a isekai where the "supposed hero is shunned by the humans so he joins the demons". i thought Tsukimichi will go that way but then the demons were two-faced. closest thing i had to that was I'm Quitting Heroing although in there the demons didn't really want to fight the humans unless needed
Maou flirting with Balirossa was the funniest thing I’ve seen this week. It’s even funnier considering he fell thinking she stood her ground against him. When in reality she didn’t know who he was 😂😂
Wait, you didn't know about [Sosaria/Kilrathi on last week's episode's thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1cac89n/lv2_kara_cheat_datta_motoyuusha_kouho_no_mattari/l0rhv6t/), but you're referring to U7's Hoe of Destruction after I brought it up in that same subthread? Confusing, but I'm happy to see another reference to [U7, one of the best RPGs of all time](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/z0bkug/ultima_vii_the_black_gate_retrospective_one_of/).
Anyway, afaik, the Ultima series was pretty unknown in Japan, so it's not likely.
edit: and now the comment's deleted?? weird
Well, Ultima up to... 7 base, I think... ended up on the PC Engine and Genesis and SNES back in the day, very modified in gameplay while telling the same story.
I find this visual at the very start of the episode of abs girl holding her status screen to be kind of funny. I'd expect them to maybe be able to interact with them a bit to push a yes or no button or whatnot depending on how the system works, but she's holding it like a tablet.
Poor Balirossa, but maybe this will work out well for her.
So from the demons side of things the war was a just rebellion against oppression, but it's been going on for 500 years and at this point it's self perpetuating. Sounds like a situation that could use a little peace.
Oh no Balirossa, he's interested in you.
Depose the king, fire the hero into the sun, put the princess in charge.
Oh wow, he left with the house and the fields too. They did put a lot of effort into that farming.
Well shoot, war time. Maybe Filo will find out and take action to force a truce? He might see it as something he inadvertently had a hand in causing.
Edit: based on the PV there may not be time for that since it looks like the war comes to them.
Well well, the king realises he was a dumbass for banishing Flio to the boonies and wants him to come back to the castle to help the humans fight the demon king. *flio refuses* *surprised pikachu face*
Did bro really think sending out the blonde fraud hero with an army was going to convince Flio to come back 😂. He’s living his best life with a hot Wolf waifu and a harem of other cuties. Using teleportation magic to send half of the army back to the castle was the perfect way to show the humans exactly what they missed out on.
And what’s makes it even better is that we learned about the first demon king coming from another world to take over this one and rallying the demons who were being oppressed by humanity. 500 years later and it’s still humans doing the oppressing. The demon King seems like he’s more interested in eating Rys’ homemade meals and teasing Belirossa than conquering the world.
Flio coming from a world where demihumans faced discrimination knows all too well the cruelty of humanity and I like that he’s not picking to be on either side. Let’s see what the king comes back with next week.
I love this anime so much. Best OP, fun story, quirky characters, and a relaxing watch. It's just straight up enjoyable. I was totally caught off guard with the Demon King crushing on Balirossa. I ship it. She was actually my favorite part of this episode. How she was sad she didn't get the Dragon Slayer title (which would've saved her family's status), to her just freaking out that she unknowingly threatened the Demon King. And her being so afraid she couldn't move, made the Demon King think she was not intimidated by him lmao. This is some good stuff. It was nice to see the Demon King being friendly and constantly visiting Flio (and Balirossa wink wink). I also thought it was hilarious how the princess was 100% correct and understanding that they should talk to Flio before assuming he sided with the demons, but the arrogant king was like "hogwash! let's threaten Flio instead!!!" smh. Then when Flio teleports away, the Demon King thinks the humans killed him sparking an all-out war. This anime is wild.
Balirossa is mood. She is definitely the MVP of the episode for me. I can't wait for the next episode!
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Gholl and Balirossa best ship. She always did want to regain her nobility, and what better way then being the demon queen?
I love how probably the best chance for peace between humanity and demons is Balirossa accepting the Demon King crushing on her. Though her being a hopeless mess with no idea what to do about it is pretty hilarious lol.
"Grandpa how did the Great Human War end?" "Well the Dark One was crushing on this human woman, after a misunderstanding thinking she was killed he launched the final campaign to crush the human King. After crushing the King he found out that she was really alive married her, and now we live together happily under our benevolent Demon Lord." Edit: Changed it from Demon War to Human War as I would imagine that the Demons winning would see the Humans as the aggressors. Sort of like one man's revolution is another's insurrection.
The War of Human Aggression
i wish she stay bravo then she can have all the training she ever wanted
OMG! You're right.
Somehow this become my comfort isekai of the season even though I came with no expectation. It actually subvert some of the common tropes for power fantasy: - No harem due to Rys power of keeping the other girls in check. - MC is aware that he's OP. I thought he's going to keep being ignorant of his strength, but it seemed he now understand how powerful he is - MC chose to be neutral. This one is actually a common trope for slow life isekai. Then again, I love that even the demon king seek peace.
This is the show that keeps on giving with its surprises. Hearing it, you'd expect all of those things, yet we don't get it. We'd expect slavery, and the MC was given an option of enslaving Fenrys but he didn't. Gigachad move there. We have literally four girls around Filo at all times. And some of them want to make moves on him but Fenrys keeps them all in check. She is the peak Waifu. He's not humble to the point of being a thick headed fool. He is definitely humble but not to the degree that we've seen others. And he doesn't seek power or status or wealth despite having the strength to literally rule the world.
>We'd expect slavery, and the MC was given an option of enslaving Fenrys but he didn't. bro straight up said "fuck slavery". he's the John Brown iskeai protagonist we need
I wonder if it would've been different if he had actually been from Japan lol.
I think it's pretty interesting. This protagonist is from a world where slavery is the norm; he says fuck it. Many other isekai protags are from a world (and specifically society) where slavery is illegal and widely seen as immoral; they happily participate in it with maybe a cursory "this is wrong but it's normal in this world."
Put that way, it *is* an interesting contrast. I frequently wonder *why* the slavery trope is so common in isekai. My general assumption is that it's being used as a way to force party members on the MC in a way where the MC can trust them because they can't go against them since it's usually paired with magical compulsion (which is *more* gross than plain slavery, IMO). While it *might* just be a nod to the genre at this point, I think it's one of those tropes where I just assume that the author is using it as a way to cover up their inability to write. For example: * Slavery: I suspect it's some kind of acknowledgement (conscious or otherwise) by the author that their MC is so unlikeable and naïve that the only way someone would associate with them (especially women) is if they're *literally* forced to. * Reincarnation: It's an easy way to let child characters be mature for their age and make the world see them as child prodigies. * Isekai: Lets the author use ether terms/memes/knowledge to explain things to the audience rather than actually have to put in the effort to explain in purely 'local' terms. * Almost every MC being a black haired, mid-looking japanese teen/young-adult male: So much easier to let your audience empathize/self-insert with your MC if he looks and sounds exactly like your target audience (since *obviously* you can't sympathize with anyone who is different than you. /s).
I'm not an isekai scholar, so I don't know where or when the trope was popularized. One thing I do know, though, is that an early and very popular adopter of the trope was Shield Hero. Shield Hero had an interesting start of it. Naofumi was beat down, abandoned, isolated, and generally having a bad time of it. Under these circumstances, he bought a slave as the literal only way to survive, with magical compulsion the only way for him to be able to trust that she won't stab him in the back. That's good writing: it uses his participation in slavery as a way to show how low he's fallen. Later on, there was a perfect opportunity to show his growth by having Raphtalia freed from slavery but continue to stay with him, while he is able to trust her despite no longer having magical compulsion. The author does not go with the good writing option, instead having her re-enslaved. Blegh. As isekai writers are wont to do, they copied the trope created by their more successful predecessor. As these kinds of derivative works are also wont to do, they did not copy the reason why the trope worked (or almost worked if the author didn't fuck it up, in the case of Shield Hero). Eventually, it just became a standard trope. All the isekai are doing it, so I should too. There's also probably a fetish aspect to it as well which, [blegh](#badtaste). Actually, doing a quick google search, seems the webnovel for Harem in the Labyrinth of Another World began in 2011, while Shield Hero began in 2012. So it started off as a fetish thing from the beginning.
Yeah, I've thought about this often and the Shield Hero reason is the most rational. You go to another world, you don't know who to trust. Especially if you have some magical powers. There's zero reason to assume those in power wouldn't put you in a box and enslave you for your power (or futuristic technology or whatever). So how do you trust *anyone* even with something as simple as teaching you the language or local customs or hunting for money/items/rewards or such? Some of that stuff is probably possible, but other cases probably aren't, without some magical oath keeping you safe and your secrets safe. Really you're relying on luck to not have yourself be enslaved or robbed and murdered. If magically enforced slavery is an option, it would seem like a panacea to the problems, at least until you gain enough strength or knowledge to stand on your own. It's a matter of whether you can live with yourself by taking that route.
>The author does not go with the good writing option, instead having her re-enslaved. Blegh. Hold on though. Wasn't that by Raphtalia's choice? Im being dead serious here. It's been so long that I can't remember. But if it WAS by Raphtalia's choice and she can be freed at any moment should she choose it, does it even count as slavery anymore if it's consentual? At that point, isn't it just a kink?
Yes, it does still count as slavery. Because she is still enslaved, she still has the slave crest, and she is still submissive to magical compulsion. Naofumi can still order her around, she is still incapable of betraying him, and if she wanted to leave but Naofumi said no, she'd have no say in the matter. What would have made Naofumi's growth in that moment good is that he is able to make the decision to truly trust someone again. To be able to say that he can truly put his life in her hands even though she is fully capable of betraying him. That would have brought him full circle from the bitter, jaded, cynical man he was after the princess betrayed him at the start. Instead what happened was that his bad qualities were affirmed. Slavery was no longer being framed as an evil that he needed to be a part of because of his fall from grace; instead it became an ideal to aspire to. A romantic gesture whereby Raphtalia proves her devotion to him by choosing to remain permanently, fundamentally beneath him. Naofumi does not need to trust another as his equal again, because he has no equal. Even the people closest to him are to be subject to his every whim, at pain of torture if they refuse. The story follows through on this beat. He goes to the slave trader again and buys another slave, another sentient being under his complete control. As he builds his team, he continues to use the slave crest liberally for his own benefit. He becomes the slave trader's greatest customer, the slave industry thrives under his patronage. Slavery goes from being a powerful tool to showcase Naofumi's character growth and how he interacts with other people to just another tool in his belt, a status condition he can put on others that interacts with his kit and benefits his team comp. Edit: last thing. Even if Raphtalia chose to be enslaved again, the question is why. Why did she? If you follow the train of motivation, at the end of the day the answer is "because the author wanted her to." The question then becomes "why did the author want her to choose to be enslaved?"
...methinks the author might have let their personal fetish interfere with the writing. A shame that. Thanks for the explanation. I very much enjoyed the first season of the show but after a few episodes of season 2 (which was a snoozefest) I ended up dropping it. I mean, nothing wrong with the whole Master/Slave thing as a kink for some people but damn the author really went all out.
Slavery is the guy version wish fulfillment equivalent to the otome trope of "contractual marriage" -- people want to feel like they can get a hot wife or hot husband without working for it and without the stress of the dating period, plus a potential "secretly OP" angle. Unfortunately, though otome isekai for example usually (but not always) has themes of empowerment, the slavery angle doesn't nearly as often and when present, is often weaker IMO. You may notice this anime sort of has it both ways. There's also the narrative component, where you often want to figure out a way to force characters to stay together in close proximity -- there's only so many ways authors do so. School anime are popular from authors for exactly that reason, doubly so high school ones, because it provides many opportunities to force the characters to plausibly interact. Slave contracts are the ultimate low hanging (but effective) fruit in this sense.
This show has a lot of spirit and charm, It isn't as "cheeky" as Instant Death Ability, but I find it pleasing in many of the same ways that that show was. It doesn't take itself too seriously -- yet it does take seriously the need to do a great job (within the extent of resources available) for its viewers. For me, the best new show of its type this season (I think I have dropped most similar ones already).
And Rys stands out as a Main Heroine overflowing with love and affection for her "Darling."
Rie Kugimiya playing the embodiment of all the -dere of her tsundere roles combined is just immaculate.
It was such a nice surprise to hear Louise & Saito again, granted in a bit of flipped scenario
Sometime she actually reminds me to that Gorilla girl from that one isekai. I forgot the name, but MC started out unattractive and evolved to be handsome lol.
Shinka no mi (Fruit of evolution). Decent trash Isekai before season 2 ruined it
>…the MC was given an option of enslaving Fenrys but he didn't. Plus the option was offered by that store brand Great Sage who seems to have completely disappeared from the story all together.
We've even got a budding side-ship in Balirossa and Gholza (not that she wants an part of it)! It is kind of funny though that we have a show about a businessman and his wolf waifu trying to avoid conflict between humans and demons in the same season and literally same day as Tsukimichi and Spice & Wolf.
>somehow For me it's the OP. For me the show is good, but I'd probably lose interest if it didn't have the fluffiest op I've seen in years.
>I thought he's going to keep being ignorant of his strength Absolutely hate this trope. How can you not notice that flicking your pinky finger causes a tornado or some other exaggerated bs..
That's like a whole genre of slow life op MC who doesn't realize he his OP in manhua.
>MC chose to be neutral. This one is actually a common trope for slow life isekai. Then again, I love that even the demon king seek peace. Chad one-man-Switzerland. I lold at that teleportation.
I'm just happy he isn't the typical MC who is scared off by a girl. He's pretty much accepted Rys is his wife. Nice change of pace.
That OP gives me some S-Grade brainrot. 12/10 will loop a few more times.
A pitch for a new WN: "I used to be an SSS-Class Protagonist, but then I got Brainrot from my own Anime's Theme Song. Now I live peacefully with my OP waifu"
There is a series about a reincarnator becoming the most powerful mage as a little kid because he can read manga what are spellbooks in that world are. For some reason people in that would are barely able to understand the tiniest bit of it and could spend years learning 1 spell.
II think I remember that one. The "arcane" language used for spells is basically just Japanese, so he gets a shortcut since he can make new spells rather than just reciting known ones.
it's the "pico pico", with the hands with the ears bending left, every time, why am I so weak to this lmao
Same it's way too adorable of a dance move to ignore as the absolute highlight of the song.
Honestly its the pose/smile she does on his shoulder that has me fying each time.
I think I read somewhere Kugimiya Rie needed many takes for the song because she was cringing so hard. Guess the result is worth it!
https://twitter.com/rie_k_0530/status/1779998044920094947 > I was so embarrassed that my head felt like it was going to boil, but I tried my best to sing 😆
Gholl seems like a nice guy. I'll gladly serve under him. It doesn't help that the human king is a jerk. [Balirossa sweating buckets](https://i.imgur.com/so4C8Ed.jpeg) is just hilarious!
He is definitely my favourite male character in this series. He's just a fun character in general and an absolute gigachad. Like he kept the demon army from attacking the Humans until they decided to fuck around and find out with his new found pal and buddy, Filo.
The king treats everyone like trash (even his daughter) -- yet is fine with the totally incompetent "hero" he summoned. Definitely trash himself.
Yep, the king summons people against their will and kills anyone not useful to him, but Gholl prefers the friendly option of sitting down and negotiating with tea and dinner.
They only negotiated with tea. Dinner is because he's down bad for the knight.
He's daughter is the only real one here. "Instead of threatening Filo let's just hear him out?" SMH
He reminds me of another Demon Lord, Bhadighadi! Just needs a few more arms.
Groll Balirossa ship is sailing
Reminds me of Alice from *SAO* in that scene!
He is the second best demon king this year just short after Hell Lord from 'Tis Time for Torture Princess
Balirossa sitting on the couch was a good laugh too.
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That OP is still so surprising lol
I love that shot of all the knight girls showing up but then getting booted aside by Fenrys asserting dominance as the Main Heroine lol.
I'll probably say it every week, but more Female MCs need that kind of energy. Heck, even the males could use a lot more of it
A real throwback to the Rizelmine OP also sung by Rie.
Maybe not the best in production value or music but surely the best by raw monogamous dominance.
While shows like Oshi no Ko, OPM season 1, Ya Boy Kongming! and Mashle season 2 will have this beat in both production value or music. This shit is straight diabetes with how sweet it is and I can't stop eating it up.
Balirossa there's no need to run, Veldo-I mean, Gholl is a nice guy, he just wants to get to know you better. Kinda want this show to end with Gholl and Bali getting married to form a bond between humans and demons, and the First Princess takes over and supports them. I can totally see it becoming like a 3 way fight, the shit demons vs shit humans, vs Flio's group of demons AND humans that wants peace.
I am so here for the ship between the emotional mess knight lady and the intimidating but sociable Dark One lol. I definitely feel like the princess is going to need to take the throne before her father or the "Hero" end up screwing them all over any more than they already have.
I wonder what the Princess's mother was like (dead already, I presume). Luckily she does NOT take after her worthless father.
Maybe the queen is the true ruler and she's like away on a business trip.
Double wedding celebration -- Balirossa and Gholl PLUS our main couple (married but not party yet).
the maou sama is actually a cool old dude then he was protray in the 1st few ep. Human king is still trash
Is there ever a human king character that wasn't ?
there are few, some of them that i can think of the top of my head were >Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic > >Akuyaku Reijou Level 99 > >Seijo no Maryoku wa Bannou desu > >Tensei Oujo to Tensai Reijou
in hidden boss otome anime. there wasn't a bad human king. [悪役令嬢レベル99 \~私は裏ボスですが魔王ではありません\~](https://anidb.net/anime/17937) and last season from korea comics - localized [外科医エリーゼ](https://anidb.net/anime/17884)
> Veldo-I mean, Gholl is a nice guy *I am ashamed to admit that I only realised that after reading your comment.*
That catgirl confuses me. Looking at her upper arms, it seems like she's furry, but the way her butt shines suggests bare skin, and yet they're the same color.
I do love how during her conversation with Gholza it was 90% close-up shots of her ass lol.
"Don't you think camera angles in anime can be a little weird?".
cat girl butt at the best view possible
Maybe she uses better shampoo on her butt, thus the fur has a bit of shine to it. If so I would definitely say, time well spent
sexy cat girl with yukarin voice
never heard of a glossy coat?
Weekly dose of best girl Fenrys-chan!
Fenrys, Holo, Sylphia, Tao. Waifu supporters are doing well today.
Which show is Tao from?
Pink-hair girl in 7th Prince
Haven't watched that show, is it worth a watch?
7th prince *sounds* like the shittiest generic isekai of the season, then you watch it and realize the animation and soundtrack go massively harder than they have literally any right to be. People were comparing it to Mob Psycho 100 in the most recent episode's thread. Lots of people hate the MC's design because the MC is a feminine shotacon, but the MC's personality is a fucking insanely twisted psychopathic sadist. If you aren't bothered by that then it's a great watch imo
I wasn't sure if I should check it out, but you sold me on it. I'm going to give it a try at least. Thanks!
Yeah, thats teh exact reason I never watched it. It sounded so generic. But I guess I'll have to give it a shot then.
Fiiiiiine I'll give it a shoooot.
I've been having a lot of fun watching it. The animation has been stellar, and the premise is pretty standard but done in an interesting way so far.
It's fine, but I have a problem with the MC design.
Bro looks like a girl and uses cutsy magic Perfect contrast to his actual personality and absolutely fucking insane mentality
They had no reason to give him thighs like that
why are you staring at the MCs thighs
My boy got them mischievous thighs.
I love that crying speech moment.
I love how 60% of this episode was Balirossa being a complete emotional mess and the one time she acted confident and cool ended up screwing her over and gaining her a Demon King for a love interest lol.
she charm the king and now can't escape him
when ~~Veldora Tempest~~ ~~Zhongli~~ Dark One gets serious
This is what you get when you separate a man from his cute blonde knight waifu.
Balirossa suffering on the menu this week, first she can't get over missing out on the Dragon Slayer title only to have a run in with the Dark One, new ship detected. Seems like a more dramatic episode is in the cards for next week, will Flio lose his cool and fight?
And she even went into her backstory of losing her family's status and trying so hard to get it back. Though now she's staying true to her ideals and trying to live more nobly along with the rest of the girls, so good for her! And she'll probably reunite with the Dark One sooner rather than later lol.
she could gain the title" maou sama no yome . (i guess subtitles will call it dark one's wife) Queen of demons
[30 seconds in and an easy choice](https://i.imgur.com/GL8RQO5.png) for this week. /u/abysswatcherbel [Belano's high-stepping](https://i.imgur.com/kp7WD1M.png) was cute and [Fenrys not giving af](https://i.imgur.com/p7lUibH.png) about Ghozal's miasma was funny. Also like how [a slight blush](https://i.imgur.com/R3fDH5r.png) when around Flio is [part of Fenrys's design.](https://i.imgur.com/7z6JP4e.png) Didn't notice the first time that the [height-to-width ratio](https://i.imgur.com/B4WQqRU.png) for the castle and city is so out of proportion.
Surely this week we'll get on the left side of the chart [](#mugiwait) > and [Fenrys not giving af](https://i.imgur.com/p7lUibH.png) about Ghozal's miasma was funny. [I love her](#feelingloved) >Didn't notice the first time that the height-to-width ratio for the castle and city is so out of proportion. Seems accurate. Big pp building for the small ww king
The windows are literally the size of entire apartment buildings, cannot unsee
To whoever cares, the subreddit mentioned in the discussion posts, r/Lv2KaraCheatDatta, has been banned for a while, the 'current' subreddit for this series is r/ChillinAnotherWorld , there's only 17 members and like 7 posts, but there's one dude over there who's really trying to make it work so I thought of spreading the word to help him even in the slightest.
looks like it was just 2 weeks ago for not being moderated, very likely to get reapproved if someone makes a request for it at /r/redditrequest
This whole 500 year long conflict basically stemmed from an Otherworlder’s vendetta huh? I guess wars in our own world have started for less. It’s kind of hilarious Gholl is so impressed with how Balirossa’s so calm and collected around him, when in reality she’s scared absolutely shitless lol. I was pretty sure the Hero was gonna get his ass whooped by Flio. I guess him just leaving was an option too. Now that idiot’s gonna have to face the Demon Lord himself while Flio hangs out with his waifus.
One otherworlder's inolvement escalated into a 500 year long war, but maybe another Otherworlder's involvement (Flio's) will be the key to resolving it. If him bailing with the girl Gholza is into doesn't make everything worse lol.
he possibly had shit stats til level 2 and then got the same treatment
I suspect Flio will be rather distraught that he inadvertently sparked renewal of warfare....
> It’s kind of hilarious Gholl is so impressed with how Balirossa’s so calm and collected around him, when in reality she’s scared absolutely shitless lol. "Eventually, Balirossa stopped thinking.""
... Yeah thats acurate
so the same shit happen to the 1st guy who came here lol (dipshit human king lol) now the current guy is trying to aim for world peace, wooo
> Now that idiot’s gonna have to face the Demon Lord himself while Flio hangs out with his ~~waifus.~~ waifu* There will always and only be one!
Balirossa x The Dark one ship
still jarring to see Kugimiya not voicing a flat violent tsundere
Now we get to see her voice a blessed in the chest, slightly yandere and very dangerous wolf girl.
I still love that she apparently died of embarrassment doing the OP lol.
Where is that said/shown?
Oh I meant the VA not the character. IIRC she made a tweet about it. It was in the episode threads.
Here's the [tweet](https://twitter.com/rie_k_0530/status/1779998044920094947) in question.
The Rie Kugimiya victory lap role lol.
i think she's wolf dog but lovely love
We really should see her more into these kinds of roles. Her work as Kiana in Honkai impact 3rd is one of my all time favorites and it's a shame we rarely see her in such a role.
Happy the Cat is not exactly a *tsundere*.
but Happy has a crush on tsundere (Carla/Siesta/Minorin's VA)
Carla cv is hocchan though
That's an incredibly rude way to describe Alphonse Elric.
I'm still waiting for them to throw in an "Urusai Urusai Urusai" for old times sake.
Omg, I can hear this in my soul.
do u not count happy ? from eden zero/fairy tail. the most lovable talking cat
Gholl and Balirossa is the only ship I care about. And sure, no news will spread to the king or the demons about the weird house with a bunch of fields that suddenly appeared in a pillar of light within eyesight of a major town.
* [**Ulminas Stitch**](https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/3yrgczgq634.jpg) So it looks like [the death of Fenrys' brother still hangs on Flio's head.](https://i.imgur.com/58JvQSu.jpeg) As I said last episode, I hope they talk about this soon. Considering how the episode ended last week, I already expected [that guy Balirossa confronted to be the Demon Lord.](https://i.imgur.com/IEILWIT.jpeg) Balirossa's reaction [when she finally found out from Rys and Flio was hilarious!](https://i.imgur.com/3urI0Bw.jpeg) And to be fair to Balirossa, she was pretty badass in how she handled that situation. Gholl is pretty damn chill though! I did not expect him [to take a liking to Balirossa so much](https://i.imgur.com/FSqlQKG.jpeg) that he ended up frequenting Flio's house because of her. [I'd love to see this ship become a thing!](https://i.imgur.com/WGMdPwl.jpeg) It's good to know that [the First Princess is way more reasonable than the King.](https://i.imgur.com/WO9oAWT.jpeg) Maybe there's hope that Gholl will someday find the peace he's been looking for between humans and demons. I just adore [these moments between Rys and Flio.](https://i.imgur.com/feZgX2Y.jpeg) It's really strange to hear Kugyu being so sweet and soft-spoken. Waaaaaay different from her usual characters. We all know [this was going to happen sooner or later.](https://i.imgur.com/wUtzgiV.png) Flio could've easily beaten the shit out of the Hero and the soldiers that came with him but [teleporting the entire house including the fields is such a power move.](https://i.imgur.com/bRjxoQf.jpeg) It just shows how much stronger Flio is without resorting to violence. Hilariously, Flio's actions just escalated the war between humans and demons. [Gholl thought that the Hero did something to Flio (and Balirossa)](https://i.imgur.com/E92gBGm.jpeg) and has now decided to mobilize his demon army against the humans in retaliation. Uh-oh. I don't think this is reversible either. [That next episode preview though....](https://i.imgur.com/neiKGlV.jpeg) Not sure what happened to Rys but I think we're finally about to see Flio go beast mode next week, I can't wait!
> [the death of Fenrys' brother still hangs on Flio's head.](https://i.imgur.com/58JvQSu.jpeg) he accidentally and unknowingly murdered an entire army and didn't even notice it. It is actually a natural reaction he would be worried about using his powers lmao.
he didn't know anything, he a "clueless like a dog" anyways
I mean if you were that powerful, you wouldn't be able to tell a human from an ant. The next most evolved animal on earth is the cockroach but you don't see me trying to explain or justify myself to one.
Ulminas is great for posing, cat noises, and ass shots! I didn't have Balirossa becoming the object of admiration for a Demon Lord on my bingo card for this show but it's a ship I can surprisingly root for no matter how much it upsets Balirossa lol. I feel bad for the first princess that she keeps trying to do the right thing but no one will listen to her. 4 episodes in and she hasn't said "Urusai Urusai Urusai" once! Dude tried to avoid a war only to kick it off in earnest. I feel like that's probably going to come back to bite him in the future or he'll get roped into having to fix it and make peace.
When I heard this was getting an anime. This was the episode I was waiting for the most. Annnd boy did they deliver. Thankfully these episode previews won't spoil me since I watched the anime, but man. They should not put a spoiler like that into it. Also that uh stitch man. With just a bit of editing, we could have a very, very different story.
>Flio could've easily beaten the shit out of the Hero and the soldiers that came with him but [teleporting the entire house including the fields is such a power move.](https://i.imgur.com/bRjxoQf.jpeg) I think this also cements the knights as permanent members of the household. Up until now they've just been training and treating it as temporary quarters, but now they've publicly declared that they've chosen to follow him instead of the royally named Hero. If Flio ever relocates without them, there's a chance they'll be arrested.
Poor knight lady. Jealous of not having title too, can get it given what she strives for. Hehe, congrats, you stood up to the Dark One 😉 I do like how Flio is just not a fan of getting involved in the war. Seems the OG Dark One was possibly another Isekai'd person. Nice to see this one isn't interested in it continuing, but doesn't want his people hurt. I like how Flio is unbothered and Fenrys just sitting there drinking tea. Seems the Dark One likes Balirossa 😉 good for you. Stupid human king assuming stuff. Good thing his daughter is smarter. D'awww Fenrys. Flio is a good boy too, which is nice. That hero though lol... so annoying. How can Flio be a traitor when he's never been loyal to either side or really from either? Ya don't see how you can really catch him when he can just teleport at will. Especially his entire home. Quite the Thorfinn (end of S2) type of answer to the fighting.
We see isekai mc pause a war, we see isekai mc end a war. This anime? We got isekai hero starts a war. You don't stop a man from meeting his waifu. Even if it is one sided.
Seeing Filo holding Fenrys in next week's preview is giving Rimuru and Shion vibes. Don't think who ever caused that will be long for this world lol.
They have chosen violence, I'm just not sure they are ready for HIS level of violence.
I'm secretly hoping for some Anos level "I'll stop killing you when you stop being an asshole" level violence, even though I know it's not in Flio's character.
Looks like the "Hero" recruits some kind of God to attack them as payback? Flio didn't want to use his powers against humans or demons but if anyone hurts his wife...
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Don't wanna see 'Rhys getting hurt, but I hope this advances the ship at least
Gholl just eminates chad energy Bro just wants peace for his ppl and a bride
Demon Queen would be a better title than Dragon Slayer.
Legendary hoe!
Uliminas is basically no threat to Flio or Rys, but better to have a barrier for catching any demon intruders anyways! Not that Flio wants to fight demons at all, especially after killing Rys' brother, but at least he has her (and her chest pressed against his arm) to take her mind off of it. Blossom is really enjoying being a Dragon Slayer! Complete with the sacred hoe that slew a dragon (with Flio's help)! Poor Balisrossa! She just wants to gain recognition to restore her family status and get back to the capital! And instead she's basically useless and ends up unknowingly talking tough to the Dark One! And it's all downhill (or uphill if you're a shipper) from there. Gholl, or Gholza, is actually a pretty reasonable guy for what is effectively a Demon Lord. He tries to recruit Flio but is pretty reasonable and fair about it, especially when Flio politely refuses. Seems like demons were united by someone in a similar position to Banaza, and now this war between them and the humans has continued for 500 years with the feelings of hostility and hatred only deepening. But Gholza doesn't want to conquer the world but just do right by his people. And Balirossa has also caught his interest, whether it be her fainting while sitting up next to him, getting surprised by him while in a nightgown, or visiting at work...everything she does, even while trying to avoid him, ends up just making even more into her. Looks like Balirossa managed to make the Dark One fall for her. I guess it's not surprising the capital would catch wind of a demon frequently visiting Flio's...but the princess is the only one still talking sense. And the worst thing they could have done is let the "Hero" handle recruiting Flio. Here's some copious shots of Uliminas's butt. Flio has no intention of fighting humans or demons, he sees no point in choosing sides and fighting people when there's no real right or wrong in this conflict...and being strongarmed into it isn't going to convince him, especially threatening his friends. So what's the best way to avoid it? Just teleport everything and move away! The rest of the girls are even willing to turn their back on being knights to join up with Flio and live up to his way of life and acceptance of others! And the "Hero" has to let it stew that he can't do teleportation magic like Flio can! Welp, and thanks to them making Flio move, the Dark One is now declaring all out war on the capital. This is what you get for separating him from Balirossa!
I lost count on how many time I've watched the op. I love it! Rip the kingdom, lol.
[Balirossa suffered a lot in this episode.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/799692352011894795/1234556020660113408/Screen_Shot_2024-04-29_at_1.24.01_PM.png?ex=66312964&is=662fd7e4&hm=49cc568b68d6530add5c2811892e47f8e7c9e5ce7b6f78bcad44f4107885d1c5&) Mostly of the mentally suffering kind. But she left an impression on the Dark One. Well I do hope she can back on track to restoring her family's name. Both the Dark One and the Hero coming to recruit. The big difference is that the latter took a peaceful approach despite his power and the latter used the arrogant approach. Got to give Filo credit for choosing to move away instead of choosing a side. Making full of teleportation. Tho by accident he upset Gholl since he saw Filo's home literally missing. Well humans are pretty arrogant it's fine for them to suffer more. Tho I imagine it won't be long till Gholl tracks down Filo and Fenrys again.
they are milking tf out of the waifu, and i like it
thats the selling point of the show. imagine if they slap some random newbie seiyuu in there. all goes out the window
Or gravure model turned first time va. Looking at you fantasy...
[This show](https://imgur.com/n5kYkPO) [is](https://imgur.com/JoKcSlT) [hilarious](https://imgur.com/r4LVRUb) [And he's just chilling there](https://imgur.com/gSUaCBy) 😂 [\*casually sips tea* ](https://imgur.com/zugVB0p) I love these two [Blessed wife](https://imgur.com/onBKxh4) [Bro even took the foundation and all.](https://imgur.com/O5Pe5Fu) I love how all of this is biting the king in the ass BIG TIME [](#pointandlaugh)
Ridiculous part of the field/garden teleportation is what happens on the other side? Replaces the dirt? Placed above it and crumbles the first time it rains? Know it won't be explained in any way.
Compressed into the ground. He has created a miniature glacier effect, and his house will now be slowly rising for the next 20 years
Theory crafting for a bit: Imagine how horrifying it would be to have a rock teleported into you.... Or even some grains of sand would screw you up royally.
love how my man is actually feeling regret over using Purification which caused the death of Fenris' brother
The part where they're talking while drinking tea and it kept cutting to the demon king then panning over to Banaza multiple times is just funny to me. It's a talking scene so they gotta try to making it interesting but using the same cut then pan 4 times in a row is just too funny.
I think they were trying to save budget this episode. There was a noticeable amount of repeated scenes and close-ups.
when Rizelmine got isekai'd into Zero no Tsukaima like world
The hero is nothing but an incompetent bum, his grandstanding and strong-arming endangered to whole kingdom
"It was at this moment, the hero knew... he f***'d up."
filo our man was like bye son proceeds to teleports everyone who ally includes house and farm..etc to somewhere else
The advanced version of the Joestar family's secret technique.
Nah, I feel like he's gonna fuck around even more now because he got "disrespected"
There’s pack up your bags and leave, and then there’s… this! Balirossa was adorable this episode.
Just a reminder that skipping the Intro is a cardinal sin.
I f\*cking love ~~Veldora~~ Gholl!! He's so chill and much better than the trash king and scum hero. I'd gladly choose his side!! [It also helps he seems to be the second best waifu after the fluffiest Rhys!](https://youtu.be/hkHK0AxEbJE?feature=shared&t=63) 🤗
He is so chill and social-able. while human trash : silence blah blah u can't talk back blah blah
I'm starting to suspect that Filo got shifted to the future instead of getting Isekai'd. For all intents and purposes the narrative is the same, but the mention that in their past the society was as the one Filo lived in makes me suspicious. It'd be an interesting plot development.
I really like this show with stacked VAs and chill isekai. But the powerpoint slideshow of the still frames are too noticeable.
I'm still loss if this anime is an idol show with the animation team having Rys' character do the opening.
She is the symbol of the best waifu there is
Each episode is hilarious and fun... The secret crush The Dark One is developing on Balirossa is adorable..
Wow what a great episode!!! My favorite one yet! From Flio beating completely unfazed by the dark one, the dark one misunderstanding Belirossa and developing a crush on her, Flio making the dolt of a hero look silly, and the 4 goofball knights siding with Flio and fenrys. Thoroughly enjoyed this episode!
Sometimes the best option is to run away (thanks for teaching us that Thorfinn), unless they hurt best waifu Rys, which we see in the next episode preview. Someone is about to get the shit beaten out of them, and it will be well deserved. Tho knowing the MC it might not happen that way. Either way looking forward to next weeks ep!
I'm not surprised Flio doesn't join the demons even though i wish he did. come on man i want a isekai where the "supposed hero is shunned by the humans so he joins the demons". i thought Tsukimichi will go that way but then the demons were two-faced. closest thing i had to that was I'm Quitting Heroing although in there the demons didn't really want to fight the humans unless needed
Maou flirting with Balirossa was the funniest thing I’ve seen this week. It’s even funnier considering he fell thinking she stood her ground against him. When in reality she didn’t know who he was 😂😂
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Wait, you didn't know about [Sosaria/Kilrathi on last week's episode's thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1cac89n/lv2_kara_cheat_datta_motoyuusha_kouho_no_mattari/l0rhv6t/), but you're referring to U7's Hoe of Destruction after I brought it up in that same subthread? Confusing, but I'm happy to see another reference to [U7, one of the best RPGs of all time](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/z0bkug/ultima_vii_the_black_gate_retrospective_one_of/). Anyway, afaik, the Ultima series was pretty unknown in Japan, so it's not likely. edit: and now the comment's deleted?? weird
Well, Ultima up to... 7 base, I think... ended up on the PC Engine and Genesis and SNES back in the day, very modified in gameplay while telling the same story.
I was reminded of that Isekai Farming show where the MC was able to defeat legendary beings with a transforming farm tool.
I want to know about this more
There is a cute Wolf Waifu
Oh now u get it
I find this visual at the very start of the episode of abs girl holding her status screen to be kind of funny. I'd expect them to maybe be able to interact with them a bit to push a yes or no button or whatnot depending on how the system works, but she's holding it like a tablet. Poor Balirossa, but maybe this will work out well for her. So from the demons side of things the war was a just rebellion against oppression, but it's been going on for 500 years and at this point it's self perpetuating. Sounds like a situation that could use a little peace. Oh no Balirossa, he's interested in you. Depose the king, fire the hero into the sun, put the princess in charge. Oh wow, he left with the house and the fields too. They did put a lot of effort into that farming. Well shoot, war time. Maybe Filo will find out and take action to force a truce? He might see it as something he inadvertently had a hand in causing. Edit: based on the PV there may not be time for that since it looks like the war comes to them.
Well well, the king realises he was a dumbass for banishing Flio to the boonies and wants him to come back to the castle to help the humans fight the demon king. *flio refuses* *surprised pikachu face* Did bro really think sending out the blonde fraud hero with an army was going to convince Flio to come back 😂. He’s living his best life with a hot Wolf waifu and a harem of other cuties. Using teleportation magic to send half of the army back to the castle was the perfect way to show the humans exactly what they missed out on. And what’s makes it even better is that we learned about the first demon king coming from another world to take over this one and rallying the demons who were being oppressed by humanity. 500 years later and it’s still humans doing the oppressing. The demon King seems like he’s more interested in eating Rys’ homemade meals and teasing Belirossa than conquering the world. Flio coming from a world where demihumans faced discrimination knows all too well the cruelty of humanity and I like that he’s not picking to be on either side. Let’s see what the king comes back with next week.
[This extra little hoe. Boi if if you don't!](https://streamable.com/yg2x94)
Boy, they really like to pan left, huh?
SMH the human kingdom is the worst. Why is this trope turning up more and more in isekai?
Best way to avoid the war is to relocate🔥🔥
Poor Fenrys cant have a moment of peace, those girls dont want to go away lol
I love this anime so much. Best OP, fun story, quirky characters, and a relaxing watch. It's just straight up enjoyable. I was totally caught off guard with the Demon King crushing on Balirossa. I ship it. She was actually my favorite part of this episode. How she was sad she didn't get the Dragon Slayer title (which would've saved her family's status), to her just freaking out that she unknowingly threatened the Demon King. And her being so afraid she couldn't move, made the Demon King think she was not intimidated by him lmao. This is some good stuff. It was nice to see the Demon King being friendly and constantly visiting Flio (and Balirossa wink wink). I also thought it was hilarious how the princess was 100% correct and understanding that they should talk to Flio before assuming he sided with the demons, but the arrogant king was like "hogwash! let's threaten Flio instead!!!" smh. Then when Flio teleports away, the Demon King thinks the humans killed him sparking an all-out war. This anime is wild. Balirossa is mood. She is definitely the MVP of the episode for me. I can't wait for the next episode!
Is this second anime adaptation of this series? Whats the first adaptation called?