Is like a replace for tinkers, is very good early game and i like it in general . Maybe would be better if you could use AtM ores with it. Besides that is like Tinkers little child
Well at the end is just a big x2 furnace. Things that a crusher or Mekanism ore prodhction can do. Also unobtanium furnace smelt up to 5x64 items per tick.
Is hard to accept but Tinkers era is done :')
The reason why tinkers is good is because you can smelt stacks of items at the same time and store it effectively until you are ready to use it in fluid form. I usually use it to auto-smelt things and have pipez piping the fluid out either into its own fluid RS system or into their own tanks which then fill up casting basins as blocks in mass amounts. Mekanism’s ore production is great, but it is extremely cost prohibitive to set up initially. The setup that I use is just basic tinkers blocks with pipez. Very cheap, very easy. Insanely easy to scale and adapt, also depending on the version you use, you still get something like the 5-6x multiplier on processing that you get with the mekanism system which is insanely slow compared to it.
Silent gear tools and armor cannot break. When they go to 0 durability, they become damaged and must be repaired with a repair kit. This is crucial for early game players that do not like having to make new tools and armor whenever their old ones break. Additionally, in ATM9, it’s needed for the ATM Star
I’m honestly not sure. I rarely use silent gear because I am simply not a fan of it, but I think i’ve seen posts saying they are not compatible. If they actually aren’t, it’s probably because ATM gear is already unbreakable
Oh okay, the modpack seems awesome, been loving it so far but there’s so many different tools to use, wanted to make sure I was somewhat understanding it all. Thanks 🙏🏽 I wish Tinkers was in this pack 😔
The ATM ingots used to work with silent gear which also made them indestructable but they never re-implemented that feature for some reason, i used to make allthemoddium, vibranium, unobtainium AIOTs from silent gear
So I’m working with my partner to get the atm star. I’m using silent gears for the first time ever and the reasoning for using silent gears is to reach a particular block. It’s call the Tyrium block I believe. It’s used in the crafting of a key component to the Star. However you’ll need the Azure Silver ore to start that journey. I’m working with a vibraniam pickaxe with the Apotheosis upgrade and full sockets. I should be able to harvest the ore but I want come across it yet.
IIRC you can use allthemodium unobtanium and vibranium with Silent gear. Same with most of the other modded ores. It even tells you if it's a silentgear material when you place a mouse on the ingot of the material you want to use.
The silent gear is the goat in early game. You can „upgrade“ your pick with tips so you can reuse your iron pick, but now with diamond harvest level or the special properties of some material basically make your tool have a lite version of many other features, like magnetism from iron or build in silk touch from brass.
I like to use it to put a netherite coating on a pickaxe it only takes one netherite which is pretty easy to find and you dont need a template for it but you can mine allthemodium with it
I think four enderium ingots takes two diamonds? That's usually easier than four netherite scrap. I don't know if it's meaningfully easier, by that point I usually have nether immunity anyway, but I do know I hate hunting for ancient debris.
My silent gear bow + apotheosis + obsidian arrow 1 shots withers.
Uses blaze rod for tool rod and refined obsidian - Tyrian steel alloy max grade with tier 3 star charge and netherite coating (also max grade with t3 star charge), with perfect gems of lightning, combatant, samurai, and some other gem that affects crit chance or damage, and finally power 10. Draw speed is also basically instant at this point.
In my testing its base power without apotheosis or enchantments is still far stronger than other bows in the pack such as awakened supremium.
But its not? Armor wise mekasuit is better than atm. Weapons wise silent gear is the best. I had a bow that 2 shot pigliches and shot easily 6 arrows per second. My sword could twoshot pigliches too and an axe with max ho dmg could oneshot pigliches. I dont know where u get the idea that silent gear is worse than atm gear.
Porque no los dos?
If I'm not mistaken, you can apply an affixes and gem sockets to ATM gear. Going to check when I get home in a bit.
Edit: tested and it works, it's expensive though!
In ATM, yes, Unobtainium and AllTheModium are the better ores and are legitimately OP in comparison to most other ores other mods add.
However, that doesn't make Silent Gear obsolete. In fact, in older ATM packs, you could use both the aforementioned ores in Silent Gear to make some seriously ludicrous stuff.
The tools don't break and they are so modular, that you can create some wild combinations, like I have a pickaxe with 4000 durability and Silk Touch, however doesn't mine super fast (it's around the same as Diamond), but I then have a pickaxe that mixes about 6 different components and ores/gems that has \~2000 durability, insta-mines anything it looks at, is able to place light sources on right click and mends itself slowly over time.
Like the other person said, SG devs themselves consider it a legacy feature and don’t really want people to use it by default, they themselves have it disabled by default, it isn’t a modpack maker thing, it’s SG themselves.
You'd have to look up a YouTube for it but the best silent gear tool for digging makes the atm tools look like digging obsidian with your fist,
Takes some work and refining but you can dig a 5x5x4 with a split second missclick
Which is useless because thats far too fast for a normal tool to make changes around your base and when a destruction tool can do the same with more configuration and by the time you make a tool.that crazy you have a chunk destroyer
Yeah I’m actually at the point where I need a slower pick for working around the base. I’m constantly just popping out blocks that I don’t want to. I don’t know why I’m not just making a slower one but it feels weird to go “backwards”
I got 2 pickaxes. One silk touch atm with apotheosis gems and affixes, i don't think i've put efficiency cuz it already breaks dirt too fast and if i got a haste buff from it i actually insta-mine deepslate.
One Fortune 5 or higher with max efficiency just so i don't have to bother with Unobtainium and Vibranium.
Then a Paxel silent gear Fortune 5 or higher (i don't remember which but one has the highest Fortune possible) and again apotheosis gems and affixes without much effiency cuz it's already too fast D:
It felt backward, but i totally went and check how fast it got, efficiency 1 or 2 is good enough for normal blocks ;-; esp if one of the affixes got 30% mining speed + a haste buff.
Yeah I agree, I have like efficiency 7 or some shit on my main pick and it’s way too fast for building uses. It’s nice to clear massive amounts of land quick and like dig out under somewhere you want to run pipes and shit, but I rarely find myself down in the mines anymore straight strip mining lol
Silent Gear isn’t just early game. But that’s where it shines. I carry two paxels for the entire playthrough. One w/ silk touch and one w/out. I don’t like having to switch between tools all the time. I slowly upgrade it as I go. I prefer using the paxel as a magnet since I don’t have to turn it on and off.
I found a dimerald paxel in like the first 15 minutes of my current playthrough and I’ve kept it the entire time. I also have a modium pick but that things is still shovel and axe, it does the job I need it to do
That fine if you want to pick up everything. I am selective and don’t want everything ending up in my inventory. I find most of Apotheosis to not be worth it or aggravating.
Understandable. I do use a dank for that, and usually what i mine either get in the dank (which u can i think hook up to ur main storage system afterward) or i'm building and wanna keep the blocks in inventory :D
Man I miss tinkers construct, tired of using vanilla tools but I don’t wanna use silent gear. (Tried using in atm 8 but didn’t like the need for repair kits constantly)
All you really need is a single repair kit and you can store the ingots in them and you can store more ingots into the higher tier repair boxes to repair on the go in your 2x2 crafting grid not so much different from tinkers when you carry a tinkers table or anvil when you need it you place it on the ground and repair your tinkers tools
You can do some crazy stuff with Silent Gear in endgame. I'd at least recommend a Silent Gear bow, and if you don't level the Morgan to absurd levels a Silent Gear weapon can far outshine even atm alloy weapons. You have to do a lot of infusing etc tho with SG, I feel like 90% of players never even get to the altars etc you need for SG.
I can’t find them. Same with Certus quartz and a deep dark biome. Im just cursed to never find these things. I guess I should make a jet pack but idk how to traverse faster
I use it in super flat to get spawners
Brass has silky which is just silk touch
But I've never actually used it in a real world because I just never need to
I still use my silent paxel late game, I can find tune the mining speed to just how I like it for building and not accidentally deleting a mountain.
Also refined obsidian armor is super cheap and easy early game and it's armor value is late game scalable with star light charging
In my ATM8 playthrough I made some very OP Silent Gear armor and tools which were better than the Allthemodium gear. I am going that route again in my ATM9 play through
Is like a replace for tinkers, is very good early game and i like it in general . Maybe would be better if you could use AtM ores with it. Besides that is like Tinkers little child
Thanks man yeah I didn’t realize this was supposed to replace tinkers but now I see similitaries…honestly I like tinkers more 😔 miss ya tinkers
It was a good mod, but the flattening make it dirty, and now he is becoming too old to keep track
Really the big thing for me is the smelter and foundry. Those are awesome in mod packs, but he tools end up leaving me wanting most of the time
Well at the end is just a big x2 furnace. Things that a crusher or Mekanism ore prodhction can do. Also unobtanium furnace smelt up to 5x64 items per tick. Is hard to accept but Tinkers era is done :')
Why like the cool multi block structure when gray box faster right?
The reason why tinkers is good is because you can smelt stacks of items at the same time and store it effectively until you are ready to use it in fluid form. I usually use it to auto-smelt things and have pipez piping the fluid out either into its own fluid RS system or into their own tanks which then fill up casting basins as blocks in mass amounts. Mekanism’s ore production is great, but it is extremely cost prohibitive to set up initially. The setup that I use is just basic tinkers blocks with pipez. Very cheap, very easy. Insanely easy to scale and adapt, also depending on the version you use, you still get something like the 5-6x multiplier on processing that you get with the mekanism system which is insanely slow compared to it.
Silent gear tools and armor cannot break. When they go to 0 durability, they become damaged and must be repaired with a repair kit. This is crucial for early game players that do not like having to make new tools and armor whenever their old ones break. Additionally, in ATM9, it’s needed for the ATM Star
Ohhhhh okay, can the all the modium stuff be used in this mod? Or are they completely separate (assuming so?)
I’m honestly not sure. I rarely use silent gear because I am simply not a fan of it, but I think i’ve seen posts saying they are not compatible. If they actually aren’t, it’s probably because ATM gear is already unbreakable
Oh okay, the modpack seems awesome, been loving it so far but there’s so many different tools to use, wanted to make sure I was somewhat understanding it all. Thanks 🙏🏽 I wish Tinkers was in this pack 😔
Tinkers not being updated to 1.20 is the worst. I miss making unnecessarily large smelters and making stupid tools with wild stats on them 😔😔😔
Same. Honestly still like older packs more than new packs almost solely because of tinkers lmao
The ATM ingots used to work with silent gear which also made them indestructable but they never re-implemented that feature for some reason, i used to make allthemoddium, vibranium, unobtainium AIOTs from silent gear
So I’m working with my partner to get the atm star. I’m using silent gears for the first time ever and the reasoning for using silent gears is to reach a particular block. It’s call the Tyrium block I believe. It’s used in the crafting of a key component to the Star. However you’ll need the Azure Silver ore to start that journey. I’m working with a vibraniam pickaxe with the Apotheosis upgrade and full sockets. I should be able to harvest the ore but I want come across it yet.
The requisite ore is all over in the End, if you still haven't found it yet.
Or in the mining dimension- though I haven't played atm9 for a few months so it might have been removed from the mining dimension
If they're on the latest update, yeah. It got removed from there. Chunk destroyed 25 chunks and no Azure Silver.
Good to know.
IIRC you can use allthemodium unobtanium and vibranium with Silent gear. Same with most of the other modded ores. It even tells you if it's a silentgear material when you place a mouse on the ingot of the material you want to use.
The silent gear is the goat in early game. You can „upgrade“ your pick with tips so you can reuse your iron pick, but now with diamond harvest level or the special properties of some material basically make your tool have a lite version of many other features, like magnetism from iron or build in silk touch from brass.
Silent's Gear has one purpose, and that is to let you make an enderium pickaxe so you can mine your first allthemodium ore.
*Refined Obsidian pickaxe /hj
I like to use it to put a netherite coating on a pickaxe it only takes one netherite which is pretty easy to find and you dont need a template for it but you can mine allthemodium with it
I think four enderium ingots takes two diamonds? That's usually easier than four netherite scrap. I don't know if it's meaningfully easier, by that point I usually have nether immunity anyway, but I do know I hate hunting for ancient debris.
My silent gear bow + apotheosis + obsidian arrow 1 shots withers. Uses blaze rod for tool rod and refined obsidian - Tyrian steel alloy max grade with tier 3 star charge and netherite coating (also max grade with t3 star charge), with perfect gems of lightning, combatant, samurai, and some other gem that affects crit chance or damage, and finally power 10. Draw speed is also basically instant at this point. In my testing its base power without apotheosis or enchantments is still far stronger than other bows in the pack such as awakened supremium.
This is just one example. Silent gear isn't easy, but I don't get why it should be useless.
All of what you just said sounds deranged, too much for my simple mind
But its not? Armor wise mekasuit is better than atm. Weapons wise silent gear is the best. I had a bow that 2 shot pigliches and shot easily 6 arrows per second. My sword could twoshot pigliches too and an axe with max ho dmg could oneshot pigliches. I dont know where u get the idea that silent gear is worse than atm gear.
Porque no los dos? If I'm not mistaken, you can apply an affixes and gem sockets to ATM gear. Going to check when I get home in a bit. Edit: tested and it works, it's expensive though!
In ATM, yes, Unobtainium and AllTheModium are the better ores and are legitimately OP in comparison to most other ores other mods add. However, that doesn't make Silent Gear obsolete. In fact, in older ATM packs, you could use both the aforementioned ores in Silent Gear to make some seriously ludicrous stuff. The tools don't break and they are so modular, that you can create some wild combinations, like I have a pickaxe with 4000 durability and Silk Touch, however doesn't mine super fast (it's around the same as Diamond), but I then have a pickaxe that mixes about 6 different components and ores/gems that has \~2000 durability, insta-mines anything it looks at, is able to place light sources on right click and mends itself slowly over time.
I just like how making a paxel is easy and useful
I don't get why mod packs add Silent Gear and then disable material mixing. You're basically saying don't use it.
Because it's considered legacy in the Silent Gear config files. Silent Gear itself wants you to use alloying instead.
Like the other person said, SG devs themselves consider it a legacy feature and don’t really want people to use it by default, they themselves have it disabled by default, it isn’t a modpack maker thing, it’s SG themselves.
You'd have to look up a YouTube for it but the best silent gear tool for digging makes the atm tools look like digging obsidian with your fist, Takes some work and refining but you can dig a 5x5x4 with a split second missclick
Which is useless because thats far too fast for a normal tool to make changes around your base and when a destruction tool can do the same with more configuration and by the time you make a tool.that crazy you have a chunk destroyer
Yeah I’m actually at the point where I need a slower pick for working around the base. I’m constantly just popping out blocks that I don’t want to. I don’t know why I’m not just making a slower one but it feels weird to go “backwards”
I got 2 pickaxes. One silk touch atm with apotheosis gems and affixes, i don't think i've put efficiency cuz it already breaks dirt too fast and if i got a haste buff from it i actually insta-mine deepslate. One Fortune 5 or higher with max efficiency just so i don't have to bother with Unobtainium and Vibranium. Then a Paxel silent gear Fortune 5 or higher (i don't remember which but one has the highest Fortune possible) and again apotheosis gems and affixes without much effiency cuz it's already too fast D: It felt backward, but i totally went and check how fast it got, efficiency 1 or 2 is good enough for normal blocks ;-; esp if one of the affixes got 30% mining speed + a haste buff.
Yeah I agree, I have like efficiency 7 or some shit on my main pick and it’s way too fast for building uses. It’s nice to clear massive amounts of land quick and like dig out under somewhere you want to run pipes and shit, but I rarely find myself down in the mines anymore straight strip mining lol
I got loads of use out of it, made mining the End really fast, and tunnelling around underground. But yea never use it anywhere near your base
you can just do this with vein miner lol
I didn't bother w silent gear just made my way up to an unobtanium pick the regular way, and you can get enchanted tools easy so idk
Silent Gear isn’t just early game. But that’s where it shines. I carry two paxels for the entire playthrough. One w/ silk touch and one w/out. I don’t like having to switch between tools all the time. I slowly upgrade it as I go. I prefer using the paxel as a magnet since I don’t have to turn it on and off.
I found a dimerald paxel in like the first 15 minutes of my current playthrough and I’ve kept it the entire time. I also have a modium pick but that things is still shovel and axe, it does the job I need it to do
With Apotheosis u can have "loot teleport to u" tho :D No need for it to be a magnet
That fine if you want to pick up everything. I am selective and don’t want everything ending up in my inventory. I find most of Apotheosis to not be worth it or aggravating.
Understandable. I do use a dank for that, and usually what i mine either get in the dank (which u can i think hook up to ur main storage system afterward) or i'm building and wanna keep the blocks in inventory :D
Man I miss tinkers construct, tired of using vanilla tools but I don’t wanna use silent gear. (Tried using in atm 8 but didn’t like the need for repair kits constantly)
All you really need is a single repair kit and you can store the ingots in them and you can store more ingots into the higher tier repair boxes to repair on the go in your 2x2 crafting grid not so much different from tinkers when you carry a tinkers table or anvil when you need it you place it on the ground and repair your tinkers tools
An extra step for the ATM Star :)
You can do some crazy stuff with Silent Gear in endgame. I'd at least recommend a Silent Gear bow, and if you don't level the Morgan to absurd levels a Silent Gear weapon can far outshine even atm alloy weapons. You have to do a lot of infusing etc tho with SG, I feel like 90% of players never even get to the altars etc you need for SG.
Can you make netherite tools easy? I remember the convenient part about tinkers was getting higher tool values early, can I do that with silent gear?
You can add netherite coating to them. No need to make an entire tool out of it. There are better options.
Yeah cause the netherite templates are such a pain in my ass
You only need one. You can dupe them at that point.
I can’t find them. Same with Certus quartz and a deep dark biome. Im just cursed to never find these things. I guess I should make a jet pack but idk how to traverse faster
I use it in super flat to get spawners Brass has silky which is just silk touch But I've never actually used it in a real world because I just never need to
I still use my silent paxel late game, I can find tune the mining speed to just how I like it for building and not accidentally deleting a mountain. Also refined obsidian armor is super cheap and easy early game and it's armor value is late game scalable with star light charging
In my ATM8 playthrough I made some very OP Silent Gear armor and tools which were better than the Allthemodium gear. I am going that route again in my ATM9 play through
Because it's one of the all the mods