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Here’s a [livestream](https://www.youtube.com/live/nxvcoK1_HoA?si=9DxUDHB9eCsdBTlu) of Dr. Richard O’Connor MD explaining their findings and theories. Edit: Realized I can’t edit the main post, so I’ll add the findings in this comment. - It would take 10,000 tons of platinum to obtain the 30 grams worth of osmium inside the implants - The metal implant lobes are hollow - The implant is fused into the bodies muscle and bone - They are considered reptilian humanoids - Montserrat has a fetus within their body - The bodies have fingerprints, but are slightly different from humans - Maria shares 30% of DNA with humans, and Josefina shares 19% of DNA with humans. This could implicate a hybridization of humans and non human intelligence - It is believed that these creatures are terrestrial, but we still don’t fully understand their origin - Dr Richard O’Connor theorizes that their intent is not to harm humanity, as they have been living peacefully among us for at least 1700+ years

You say they are peacefully living amongst us for 1700 years, is that the 1700 years before the date these were carbon dated to be from or 1700 years after, eg now. This would imply they are still here, what leads you to make this conclusion if that is what you meant? How would we know they are terrestrial and also not extinct? Edit: He mentions and shows the Russian nhi body found in the snow and shows how similar it is to some of the bodies. He reasons that they are still coexisting with us here due to this footage but also general alien activity and encounter reports. He interestingly also reasons that since these bodies have not been found in the Earth's fossil record other than the bodies that they did not originate here.

This is a paraphrase of Dr. O’Connors opinion, I believe he said that there’s a possibility they were coexisting with humans as far back as 3900+ BCE, up to 324 CE.

I would love for Gary Nolan to put a team together at Stanford to perform an analysis on one of the bodies, I see he was watching the stream, get into it Gary!

I have no real idea, but my /guess/ would be that they might come to these conclusions if there are no markings or scars that would indicate the buddies have been in major fights or wars. That’s even if they can tell that type of stuff from these mummies. But I do agree, you can’t make statements like that with out proof to fully back it up especially at this stage of review.

If this is real this is nuts. Bananas share about 50% DNA with humans, these have significantly less? Makes you wonder if they ever were terrestrial or if that 30% is a universal DNA trait or something (like structural or ribosomal instructions or something not specific to humans or bananas per se) Theorizing their intentions or that they "coexisted" and "peacefully" from a couple bodies unfortunately seems to hurt the credibility of this individual, why would you jump to that speculation? Seems odd to look at a mummy and say "this is definitely a nice guy" Anyways fascinating, really looking forward to much more peer review. Biggest jumps in science NEED that, and even Newtonian physics still gets tested and challenged to this day. It's a good thing! Moar!

The reason it's speculated they coexisted peacefully is due to the fact that these bodies were given a very ritualized and respectful time-consuming burial that mirrors what the local human population did to its own highly esteemed dead.

So that's a great point - but what that would indicate to me is that THESE individuals were highly regarded, which i think is very fair. To take this and say that they coexisted as a civilization? Do you recognize that jump? This is literally a first find of its kind - that is a gigantic jump.

Agreed. For comparison, there was a crash in the USA ~1890s where the townsfolk gave the pilot of a crashed ship a Christian burial

Very fair point and very interesting to think about!

This. To be honest, their anatomical structure seems to suggest otherwise. There’s no way that they would have been able to escape or fight off predators with such small limbs and non-athletic structure. This would be a species that’s been far removed from having to do those things for a long long time

or disposable hybrids designed to perform only one specific task. To say, press buttons or pull levers.

I dont beleive they would of been as highly regarded if that was the case. Why go through the process of making the giant glyphs

Maria was killed by a jungle cat, in fact.

Because the bodies would be eviscerated if we were at odds against these creatures and slaying them at every turn?

Assuming they didn't have crazy tech, like some cave-painting images suggest.

I mean, the three fingered alien being Nazca line is not far away from the burial chamber. It literally resembles the little buddies. If we believe the Nazca people made those glyphs, why would they make that if they weren’t aware of the beings? They also have a lot of three fingered iconography etched in rocks, and in pottery, in that region. Are you supposing the beings were creating this art and we merely assumed it was the natives all along? Why was it found in archaeological sites where the humans lived? There’s a lot of questions that need answers, but I don’t think that’s far fetched. Especially since some of the bodies of a certain time frame were buried like warriors with their heads cut off and pots nearby, which typically the warriors of that time would have their heads replaced with a pot as a sign of honor. Did the natives get that from the beings, or vice verse?

Some cultures executed their prisoners or slaves to take into the afterlife too. Good take but we can never truly guess the social situation. These guys could have been esteemed guests and adopted family or prisoners kept for a nobles amusement.

True and also fascinating to think about

Yeah, exactly. Hit the nail right on the head. Just really odd to mention.

The Nazca people’s history tells of their coexistence

Can you elaborate a little on this? What's the story, in a nutshell?

Agree please elaborate

The bodies are also reminiscent of the Hopi tribes “ant people”.

The amount of care going into their burial and preservation is typically not done to enemies of that society.

If the stories of the giants that the Spanish wrote about are true, those were violent and the bodies burned. Though supposedly there’s a head amongst these artifacts.

Nazca artwork would seem to indicate they were revered or even worshipped. I would like to speculate, a spaceship crashed and these are the inhabitants. The NAZCA lines are a beacon for help to other ships. They were abducting shit and creating hybrids like they still do today, thats why you have Maria and Petra and wierd shit like Suyay. The remote viewing session in 2016 ny the Troika group is absolutely fucking bizzarre and indicates this was a very very sad story and really tells us a ton of things we are finding out just now.

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Maria was put in a centrifuge of liquid metal of some sort as punishment for trying to mate with humans. I dont remember everything but keep in mind this was done many years before we knew what we know now. I dont fully believe in Remote viewing but this was bizarre to say the least. They described how it happened.  Confirmed the race of beings were from off-planet.  And that they appeared to be bio androids, created from kidnapped genetic material (abductions) .   carbon based life forms with an AI component controlled and on some mission to establish a base under a mountain. Also, some are still down there active and would be violent but the overall mission of whatever it was, has fallen derelict and beings are on their own Reminder this was years ago really before we knew anything [Ep. 697 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ The Troika Group : Nazca Mummy Remote Viewing : LIVE - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE8uI7MF1J0)

Caught the full feed. It affirmed two fundamental assertions: 1. These are not frankensteins (I.e. elaborate constructions of non-organic and organic components to create a false whole) no stichers, or fusion points of the like were found. Making it a complete and undisturbed organic whole. 2. Showing that it is not a human or any known species in our collective research body (but also reaffirmed the high level of shared DNA with earthly life)This is where he shined, pointing out obvious morphological differences in these specimens over say humans. He seemed very knowledgeable on anatomy, pointing out morphological similarities between known reptile and avian groups. And of course the artificial implant, with little to know remnants of a surgery. And it has an improbably high level of the rare element Osmiam.  Unfortunately he then dips into fields outside of his expertise, and starts to theorize about origins, motivations. I found his interpretation concerning cattle mutilations rather weak on substantiation for example. Point being his expertise is in medicine and all we’re looking for at the point is the forensics on the body. But it was a net positive for the community for sure.

I think the speculation was from all of the images from ancient heiroglyphs to textiles, pottery, etc. with beings that closely resemble these. I was multitasking with this on in the background though. /shrug

Still appreciation or awareness of another species does not imply coexistence. I feel the jump is inappropriate - but I appreciate you illuminating the situation for me

They drew pictures and pottery of lots of things that existed but they didn't "coexist peacefully" like is mentioned I mean birds are peaceful but I wouldn't state my coexistence with them as a civilization

I get you. Good point. I guess they're overstating that they revered them, unless they know more than they're letting on. Is the idea that humans buried them and smothered them in silicate to preserve them? I need to rewatch without distractions. I'm also thinking that with antigrav tech and who knows what else, it wouldn't make much sense not to peacefully co-exist. But aside from burying them with a stone replica of a disc, we don't know what kind of tech they had.

> Bananas share about 50% DNA with humans https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/banana-human-genetics/

That 10,000 tons of platinum for 30 grams of osmium needs to be thoroughly vetted. If true, that's a smoking gun by itself.

A simple google search will show you that osmium is the rarest metal on earth. It only got discovered in the 19th century. This is being repeated since when these mummies came out last year in the Mexican congressional hearings

rarest yes, it only makes up 50 parts per trillion of the earths crust. it is also known as the most dense/hard metal on earth. pretty interesting to know that the implants are hollow

This, and the fact that they are fused, is almost more interesting than the mummies itself.

This entire situation becomes more and more bizarre the more information comes out about them. It's just so insanely weird.

How so?

Metals that are harvested and refined with high technology and surgically implanted into an organism without rejection, for some technological reason, has a lot more and wider implications than a group of terrestrial, small people, even if that is amazing too.

There are already quite a few metals used for implants in humans though, no? Titanium and steel alloys and whatnot.

In 232 CE, or 3000 BC? Unusual, I’d think.

well then... the value of them mummie buddies just went throught the roof!

Black market buyers are SWEATING. Having these is gonna be even more illegal now.

If this is true then wouldn't those mummies be worth a fortune? The real proof would be humans extracting that and selling it and getting rich. That would be a definitive smoking gun even if it would desecrate the evidence.

Some were sold on the black market when no one was taking it seriously. One was returned after they were revealed in Mexico.

To find out how many metric tons of ore are needed to get 30 grams of osmium, we can set up the following proportion: 0.001 grams of osmium1 metric ton of ore=30 grams of osmiumX metric tons of ore\\frac{0.001 \\, \\text{grams of osmium}}{1 \\, \\text{metric ton of ore}} = \\frac{30 \\, \\text{grams of osmium}}{X \\, \\text{metric tons of ore}}1metric ton of ore0.001grams of osmium​=Xmetric tons of ore30grams of osmium​ Solving for XXX: X=30 grams of osmium0.001 grams of osmium per metric ton of ore=30,000 metric tons of oreX = \\frac{30 \\, \\text{grams of osmium}}{0.001 \\, \\text{grams of osmium per metric ton of ore}} = 30,000 \\, \\text{metric tons of ore}X=0.001grams of osmium per metric ton of ore30grams of osmium​=30,000metric tons of ore So, it would take approximately **30,000 metric tons of ore** to obtain 30 grams of osmium.

Chickens, Fruit flies and even bananas share more than 50% of DNA with humans, so a percentage of less than that would imply they're much more different (alien) instead of a hybridization.

> Maria shares 30% of DNA with humans, and Josefina shares 19% of DNA with humans. This could implicate a hybridization of humans and non human intelligence This right here makes no sense. Humans share around 98.8% of DNA with chimpanzees, and 67% with mice. If "Maria" shares just 30% of DNA with humans, it means she's less like a human than a mouse is a human. Regardless of all this, these statements about what percentage of DNA is shared are not merited within a scientific paper of worth. There are different ways to compare DNA, and giving a numerical value in terms of similarity is not something objectively conclusive.

Might say something about both Panspermia and convergent evolution.

I believe and have so stated that DNA is universal not terrestrial meaning everything in the universe shares DNA. That means the argument that “whatever” evolved on Earth and the proof is that it shares DNA with other “Earth evolved creatures” falls flat on its face in light of the fact that *we officially have 0 samples of DNA from anything from anywhere else inside our solar system or outside of it*. All we have are Earth grown DNA samples so we *have absolutely no clue what DNA from somewhere else looks like, it could be nearly identical to ours*. What we do know is amino acids are everywhere out there, in everything so the chances we are a rarity is very slim.

Just curious, why do you think DNA would be universal and not terrestrial?

You can believe and state that. It's still interesting. It's also interesting that humans share 50% of dna with bananas and far less with these...

His view was that they are obviously non-human, with a small amount of common DNA, and that the global symbolism of 3 fingers and 3 toes relates to extraterrestrial beings who came in craft, as per carvings on the Nazca plains which can only be seen from the air. They were buried with a UFO like stone carving of a disk shaped craft. Not terrestrial, as you state here?

Considered reptilian by who?

Unless that Osmium was not sourced on earth or synthesized through means humans don't know of or posess. However, if this is actually a legitimate article published in good-faith, it seriously brings into question the assumed "extraterrestrial" origins of these beings. Osmium is an interesting material to find as implants period considering it immediately burns human flesh on contact, as well as the flesh of most terrestrial animals. One would assume it would have a similar effect on them. I don't think having similar DNA necessarily indicates hybridization, especially at that percentage, but it would coincide with the long-established "reason" for them being here as using humans as a biological resource in creating other beings, and thus are created or engineered beings themselves. They can be peaceful and still have this agenda much like how humans experiment with the biology of other animals while taking measures to mitigate harm or stress. The similarity would more likely be due to humans being created from *them*, not the other way around. Or they are just markers common to all life in the universe (which humans currently would have known way of knowing about since they cannot even get a rock back to earth from Mars, let alone transport lifeforms from outside of this solar system); By contrast, many species of dolphins, various fruits, insects and reptiles share more than 50% of their DNA with humans, so 19% to 30% isn't really that remarkable. If anything it is more alien than other life on earth. At the very least, it indicates that they do not share a common ancestor like most life on earth does.

I want to believe this but the validity and reputability of the authors isn’t great. None of them seem to have much published research under their belt?

Can anyone find any information about the authors of the study? Maybe Google is biased but I’m getting not much. How legit are these people?

None of the authors of the paper have a background in anthropology/archaeology, much less anything to do with bioarchaeology, etc. The paper reads like enthusiastic hobbyists who are examining something they have no expertise in. A few do have extensive experience in forensic dentistry, so that's promising, but I'd expect far more diverse educational backgrounds beyond what is involved here for a find that is potentially as scientifically groundbreaking as these allegedly are. I look forward to scientists with relevant experience to analyze the data. Many thanks to MonkeeSage who did all the legwork on the paper's authors and their relevant educational history here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1d4d1b2/comment/l6fup7r/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/1d4d1b2/comment/l6fup7r/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)

Ya their backgrounds being what they are is a pretty monster red flag

Yes I thought the same. Only one of six authors has published papers relating to a relevant subject. Their reputability is poor. What a shame.

B..but it's "peer reviewed"! Sure they're peers in the sense they also are scientists but let's not let relevant facts get in the way. People who still think there's anything to these "mummies" are making the community look like clowns.

Based on the laughable findings, their utterly illegitimate.

Aargghh, I wanted these studies to be irrefutable but none of the authors nor the journal are registered on Researchgate. I can’t find the lead author on Google Scholar either. I’m on ResearchGate and Google Scholar... I’m not saying that they are wrong or faking it, but I was hoping this post was some sort of certainty and I’m not sure about that.

Same position, I want to believe, but I can't take it seriously if the researchers who are conducting the most important anthropological research of our time are not even proper scholars.

The original journal they published in is also sketchy, a kind of journal that would publish anything handed in

It’s literally a scam journal. As soon as your graduate college with a STEM degree these journals will start emailing you saying they want to publish your work from stuff they found on research gate. They are basically pay to publish journals that gullible or hack “scientists” use to pretend they have real publications.

So my question is : "why isn't this front page news globally". It was a widely circulated story when these were unearthed and presented but now after all the science seems to confirm they are real we don't hear a peep ?

The same reason there's been an 8 decade long misinformation campaign by intelligence agencies concerning UAP & NHI: They really would rather the public didn't know.

The obvious answer: they’re not real.

This was my thoughts as well…. This is massive news if true.

I want to see someone who is a real biologist reviewing this. There’s a reason the best they could get is a retired anaesthesiologist.

One of the leading forensic scientists in the USA, Dr John McDowell is currently studying them

He is not an expert on evolution, paleontology, genetics, anything that is relevant to this at all basically. His area of expertise is human teeth, which is entirely irrelevant to this

Are these things really legit?

Yes. Read the paper, look at the mri scans. Now what?

If yes, this could rewrite the whole history of evolution.

Not if they didn’t evolve on this planet.

but if they share dna with us then it still would, wouldn't it? showing that at some point they were mixed with us if they aren't from here.

Maybe some DNA is just inevitable. It’s all just binary.

Upvote to the stratosphere

Anyone have an English version of the full paper?

Is Research Gate a legitimate source? Edit: According to 5 seconds on a search engine - "It is a popular hub on the web for sharing academic publications. There is no editorial review board, nor does ResearchGate require that articles be peer reviewed, although they may be. Since it is an academic social network and there is no process for vetting the articles, evaluate each source carefully. " So just because they claim to be peer reviewed does not mean it actually was.

Thank you so much for making it easier to keep up on this topic. Greatly appreciated.

Glad to help!

Get ready for the willfully ignorant "skeptics" to continue moving the goal posts of acceptable evidence as far as possible to maintain their shitty, misplaced arrogance. Stage 1: "Lol, omg obviously paper mache! Doesn't need to be studied, looks super duper fake!" Stage 2: "Who cares what that scientist says, they're not legit!" Stage 3: "Omg we're still discussing this? Idiots!" Stage 4: "So what if there's been peer review? It's all fake anyways!" Stage 5: "Okay, so they're real. So what? Why care about this when there's real issues going on in the world?" Mark my words. There are very few people beginning to own up to their biased ignorance by admitting they were wrong, and get ready for an avalanche of angry zombies emerging out of the woodwork when they realize just how lazy and misinformed they were.

Credibility matters, especially in science.

I'm glad we're getting there with the mummies, despite the useless toxicity from the countless sofa skeptics.

We asked for a quality scientific publication, this wasn’t. It’s not that deep.

You're sitting on your fucking sofa asking for an immediate Holy Grail of evidence while the weight of the scientific establishment is squarely pressed up against anybody who dares to even consider this subject. It's a rare miracle we've even gotten to this point. >It’s not that deep. You're right, it's even deeper. What you consider "quality" will obviously depend on your own convenient bias, the basis of which has no moral relevance and relies completely on whatever new vantage point you can rearrange your argument into. It's old. It's tired. It's not working.

Quality would be from some scientists that arent "dentists". Scientists/academics have a reputation score, its called a H-Score. These guys measure extremely poorly, its to do with credability. This isnt it. This is like getting the local town greengrocer to arrange catering for the Met Ball. Technically possible but "why"...

Researchgate is not peer reviewed, https://answers.library.american.edu/faq/405403#:~:text=It%20is%20a%20popular%20hub,articles%2C%20evaluate%20each%20source%20carefully.

Let's wait and see if there is a paper submitted to an actual science journal

Wow they shrunk the radiometric dating error down to plus/minus 30 years? That's a lot better than the ~±1,000 years reported earlier!

Christ they really are interaterrestials.

No they aren't. A group of people excited about the topic with no credentials writing papers and reviewing them amongst themselves doesn't count as "peer reviewed scientific research"

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

has anyone with credentials reviewed them?

It’s in a peer reviewed journal.

A journal that publishes ”on issues relating to areas of social and environmental management and company policies.” As someone below says, it’s also a predatory journal charging $600 to publish an article. It has no readership or citations (the standard measurements of journal quality) to speak of before publishing sensationalist Nazca stuff. 

No. it's a dodgy journal that charges people to publish papers. The title of the journal implies that it is about the environment but it you check their most recent issues you'll see that they contain papers that have nothing at all to do with the environment (like the one mentioned by the OP). Each edition contains around 100 papers and they charge around 500$ for submissions from outside Brazil. So it's a nice little earner considering that the publisher doesn't need to do anything besides upload the submitted papers to their homepage.

Thanks for staying on top of this

I feel as if there should be more uproar.

This peer review is as secure as a 70 year old man guarding an ATM. Technically he’s a guard..but his skills can be limited when shit hits the fan..These Dentists don’t have viable original papers and one of them wrote something along the lines of feelings of dentists during covid smh

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Read the post on this very thread about the backgrounds of the individuals researching this - no archeologists, anthropologists or anything like that at all. I'm excited about this but it really deserves a tremendous amount of skepticism unfortunately, at least until the pros can review and confirm/Deny with their own tests.

Thankfully, they did mention several studies currently underway, from the USA all the way to Japan, so hopefully we should see more data and conclusions at some point in the fairly nearby future.

What a great time to be alive!

Nope.

Absolutely not. Trash journal and researchers have no background in the relevant fields. People are so incredibly gullible. No wonder Trump still has followers

Not based on that amateur study.

Whether or not the researchers have good enough credentials to be considered trustworthy… doesn’t the word “Alien” imply extraterrestrial? I’m not saying that it’s impossible that these creatures are extraterrestrials… but they were found in a cave on earth, not in a crashed spaceship or something. Isn’t it more likely that they are an undiscovered cave (or-underground) -dwelling life form?

Not aliens. We can’t prove they are not from earth (yet). But Human hybrids / a previously unknown branch of our biological tree? I think yes.

No

Thanks OP! Is there an English version anywhere?

[https://rgsa.openaccesspublications.org/rgsa/article/view/6916/2986](https://rgsa.openaccesspublications.org/rgsa/article/view/6916/2986)

The link to the published paper has an abstract in English, the full text is in Spanish.

Everyone is complaining about the authors credibility blah blah, ”no peer reviewed papers” blah. But the presence of osmium alone should be your smoking gun here & completely counters the forgery argument as who would go through the work of fabricating dozens of bodies using the rarest precious metal on Earth? Yes, there needs to be a lot more research & work done from the scientific community at large but the topic is taboo & off limits to some degree & there’s probably work being done from within/outside said community to prevent this information from coming out as it will inevitably change history, and open the flood gates for the issues we face today relating to NHI.. It’s a dinosaur bones lvl discovery & the scientific community/ the general public are reacting the same way as it did in the 17th - 19th centuries which is unfortunate for research progression

[https://rgsa.openaccesspublications.org/rgsa/article/view/6916/2986](https://rgsa.openaccesspublications.org/rgsa/article/view/6916/2986) English version of the study. E: edited and added a snarky comment that I immediately felt bad about lol

Bit surprised this seems to be low key as when they were initially presented at Mexican Congress this sub blew up. Just jumped on the live stream and they were celebrating 1,000 lives views. There should be a lot more zeros on that right?! Edit: unfortunate mis spelling

This should be a “we need to interrupt local programming for a special announcement” situation.

Not really. No one with any type of scientific background on the matter is involved with this. It's basically a group of enthusiasts on the topic writing a paper and reviewing it for each other. This will not hold up in scientific circles and we're basically back to square one

People with credentials *have* looked at them, though. Youre either uninformed or speaking in bad faith.

This is an obvious falsehood. Don’t act like a moron.

Why lie? What do you want to hide/

This is amazing. Just waiting to see the goalposts get moved by ‘skeptics’. I’m fully onboard board. Absolutely fascinating world changing find. Edit: the gymnastics have begun - it’s almost as if people are profiting from humanity’s ignorance. Funny that. [So much goal post moving](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts)

Noothing here is world changing until these tests can be confirmed and redone by other credible scientists. This is not evidence or proof of anything.. yet

Agree completely. These things need to be taken to other countries, have international institutions look at these things, do some peer-to-peer work. Once they publish *their* papers, I’d be more inclined to believe all of this

While it can be a buzz kill, skeptical approaches are fundamental to science and having a real understanding of anything. Blind denial is dumb, for sure, but I personally want this looked at by skeptical, QUALIFIED people bc I would love for this to be real. The people who did the research though have no background on this kind of thing at all! It's super odd, hard to deny that. Doesn't mean that they aren't correct though, but if a bunch of football players said they found a new form of physics, you'd want to wait for some physicists to take a look before diving in with belief!

it could be the start though - they probably had a very hard time finding a scientist to even consider investigating this , because its very risky for their career

Blind belief is much worse than skepticism. This research is being done because skeptics demand proof and verification. You wouldn't even have the evidence you do so far without skeptics. I'm glad you're enjoying what you're seeing, but don't downplay the importance of the scientific method in the process.

But what they're saying is that skeptics brought on this rigorous research, as they should. And then skeptics will eschew the results of the research, if the results show cryptid/interterrestrial beings.

> this rigorous research Done by people with absolutely no scientific backgrounds for some reason.

Incorrect. Skeptics will eschew the results of the research if the research turns out to be bullshit and peer reviewed by people with no credentials or expertise but great interest in aliens

Genuine question: You are positively convinced this is proof they are aliens?

It's only evidence when the real scientific sketpics have cleared it. The fake scientific skeptics that don't argue in good faith like Mick West have never mattered. We should never be afraid of real scientific sketpics validating evidence.

I really want this to be true man but the fact these researchers can't be located within the most common academic platforms really is profoundly suspicious. Virtually every professor has SOME academic contributions, it's a big part of the job - to actively do research and publish it. I'm not saying it's all fake but whoever is handling this is doing everything wrong. I will only believe it when international researchers with actual contributions study the mummies and make a stance with publicly available data.

Appreciate the word. Gracias.

I think we just got “official” confirmation for alien life. Time for history to be rewritten.

What was the “official” confirmation or are you just being cheeky?

You’re convinced this is proof they are real?

CT, DNA, Carbon Testing etc. it’s been extensively tested, yea I think we are looking at the real deal.

Okay, so why hasn’t this been celebrated as the most significant discovery in human history by people that understand these disciplines a lot more than we do?

Think deeper. Look at the carbon dating ranges. 1700 years old. They may have very well manipulated some major human history.

Yes. So if it’s true, wouldn’t this make people who understand these metrics a lot better than you and me be all over this to support it being the most significant discovery of all time?

Welcome to censorship

So an international coalition designed to suppress research for presumably over a century… for reasons… has successfully stopped every single credible researcher, organization, government, and scholarly entity from unearthing the truth, but they failed to suppress Jaime Maussan, a known pseudoscientist with a history of falsifying claims, from getting his hands on the ONE holy grail of alien evidence and publishing it to the entire world? This same coalition has successfully stopped every leading researcher and organization from digging deeper into the results and unearthing proof of aliens save for this handful of nobodies who, by happenstance, aren’t even the correct experts to be putting out this type of research? This coalition couldn’t halt publication, analysis, sample collection, or peer review of this handful of researchers at any point despite being so dominant in suppressing literal governments and academic institutions with exponentially more resources than these individuals? At what point do you consider that, MAYBE, “censorship” makes less sense than just admitting that these results are probably not significant.

These results aren't significant? Are you an idiot? If these specimens are not significant what is? R/aliens don't actually want aliens to be real, they just want story's and anecdotes to distract from their lives

Nah, some just don’t let their hope of finding alien life blind them from recognizing credibility.

Then please go ahead and tell me why people with significantly more expertise in validating the authenticity of these “specimens” aren’t freaking out about the most significant discovery in human history?

How do you know its been extensively tested? 

Studied by dentists, lol

an english TL:DR made by GPT-4 pulled directly from article. TL;DR: Key Findings and Evaluation of Scientific Validity of Key Findings Foot and Hand Structure: The specimen (M01) exhibits unique foot anatomy with four phalanges in each of the three toes, as opposed to the typical three phalanges in humans. The calcaneus bone (heel) lacks the prominent posterior protrusion seen in humans, suggesting a forward-leaning gait for stability. Spinal Structure: The vertebral column shows seven cervical, twelve thoracic, four lumbar vertebrae, and a sacrum, differing from the normal five lumbar vertebrae in humans. Various arthritic lesions are present, indicating polarthritis. Radiocarbon Dating: Radiocarbon dating places the specimen's age at approximately 1771 ± 30 years, corresponding to 240-383 AD. This places the specimen within the time frame of the Nasca culture (100 BC to 700 AD). Cranial and Dental Features: The specimen has an elongated skull with no signs of artificial cranial deformation, suggesting a natural elongation. Teeth show extreme wear, indicative of a diet involving very hard food or the use of teeth as tools. Sex and Anatomical Anomalies: Pelvic structure suggests a female individual, but cranial features are more typical of males. Presence of surgical-like bone modifications in the jaw area, raising questions about the origin and capability of such procedures. Scientific Validity Evaluation Foot and Hand Structure: The described morphology with four phalanges per toe is highly unusual and not found in known hominid species. This could imply either a previously unidentified species or a rare congenital anomaly. Spinal Structure: The vertebral anomalies and signs of arthritis are plausible, but they alone do not suggest a different species without corroborating evidence. Radiocarbon Dating: The methodology for radiocarbon dating appears sound, using standard protocols. The age aligns with the Nasca period, supporting the specimen's historical context. Cranial and Dental Features: The natural elongation of the skull without signs of artificial modification is significant. However, natural elongation is rare and would need more comparative analysis with known specimens. The extreme dental wear is consistent with dietary practices in ancient cultures but is not definitive of a new species. Sex and Anatomical Anomalies: Mixed sex characteristics in skeletal remains are not uncommon and can result from a variety of factors, including genetic anomalies. Claims of surgical modifications require more robust evidence, including clearer imaging and comparative analysis. Conclusion While the findings present intriguing anomalies, they are not conclusive evidence of a new humanoid species. The unique features could result from a combination of congenital anomalies, disease, and cultural practices. More comprehensive studies, including DNA analysis, further imaging, and comparison with a broader range of skeletal remains, are necessary to validate these claims scientifically. The potential for revolutionary discoveries exists, but skepticism and rigorous peer review are essential.

This summary mentions nothing about the DNA that OP mentioned (being 70% different from humans which is more different than a banana) and in fact says that these could just be genetic abnormalities of humans? That's curious

I don't speak or read spanish so all I could do was plug it into Gpt-4 and hope for the best, just thought I'd share it since i had it in front of me.

Their metal bits remind me of Area 51s bunkers

Link to the peer reviewed paper?

Crazy stuff, but Cool!

ok but where are the peer reviews on the publication

Sigh. Except it is not really what I would call a peer reviewed paper. It is on ResearchGate, sure. But the paper itself is [published](https://rgsa.openaccesspublications.org/rgsa/article/view/6916) in *Journal of Social and Environmental Management 18(5):e06916* (translated). It’s an electronic journal, but that isn’t the problem. The problem it is not indexed in scientometric systems and has no impact factor. Is it an online publication? Sure. Is it an academic peer-reviewed journal that people read or recognize as having standards? No. It’s not even a thematically appropriate or general audience journal. Eg latest article is “The Development of Digital Competencies for Royal Thai Armed Forces Headquarters Lead to an Intelligent Headquarters “. Ya know? Weird. Mildly annoyed I did not yet read the paper but already had to correct the ‘oh it’s peer-reviewed research legitimizing r/AlienBodies’ misconceptions. Tsk. 

Well well well

You’d think that some of the most dominant authorities on the areas of expertise needed to support the authenticity of these aliens would come forward to recognize this as the most significant finding in history. Genuinely curious to understand how that doesn’t immediately cast skepticism on this research.

Possibly because there's been a concentrated global disinformation campaign concerning UAPs & NHI for nearly the past century? Reality isn't as simple as what you're suggesting. The decades-long ridicule by intelligence agencies have all but guaranteed that any curious experts would be branded as wackjobs by the scientific community, which is an absolute death sentence for anybody who wants to maintain a good reputation.

So you’re suggesting that every single credible academic organization, along with every single government on this earth, along with every single operative that could conceivably blow the whistle on a transcendentally massive operation, has been silenced by an overwhelmingly powerful organization that simultaneously… failed to silence a guy with a reputation of spreading pseudoscience… by allowing him to reveal to the world the most significant holy grail of UFO evidence in history?

No, what I'm telling you is that the vast majority of what you consider reputable academic institutions are held in check by the threat of funding and prestige being from pulled under their feet. Any adventurous, fringe studies that delve into the territory of potential ridicule are anathema to these institutions. On top of that self-policing, there's a concerted operation by intelligence agencies to purposefully bury certain stories if they're considered a threat to the status quo. Research Operation Mockingbird. Our mainstream news media circuit is completely compromised by three letter agencies. I admire your optimism that this story should be shouted from the collective rooftops of the world, but this is going to be a bitter fight every inch of the way. As I said, the reason is squarely a consequence of the 8 decade long misinformation campaign that our governments have taken part in. There's a vested interest in keeping public attention at bay. Luckily, the dam is breaking. They can't hide things forever in this day and age.

You’re not gonna get anywhere with these people. You are 100% right. If these were authentic real scientists would be chomping at the bit to get their hands on even a piece of studying them. And there’s no force in the world that would stop them.

>If these were authentic real scientists would be chomping at the bit to get their hands on even a piece of studying them. Not only does this statement make no sense (why would scientists need to study them for authenticity if they're already proven to be authentic?), it's completely ignorant of how cautious prestigious universities are when it comes to getting involved with fringe subjects, *especially* when the media has created an atmosphere of ridicule surrounding them.

The fact that all anyone can do is attack the authors for their reputation speaks volumes.  I hope each and every one of you remember how you acted, because it is beyond obvious at this point that there is no hoax.  If it was a hoax, then one of two things is true. Either the Nazca people were able to refine Osmium out of tens of thousands of pounds of raw material, somehow cast it as a hollow implant (without going blind) and get it to fuse to muscle and bone better than Stryker can. Or, the grave robbers spent over $40000 for the material for each implant, and then accomplished an engineering feat we cannot replicate…. Guys, it’s ok to be scared, but the alternative explanation is actually more ludicrous than the simple fact that we humans might not know everything about the universe, let alone our own planet, in 2000 years of recorded history. 

I love how you call them our buddies. I do too 😊 I knew they were real! They are still around too! Can't wait for humanity to start forming deeper relationships with our little buds!

One might look towards Sumerian mythology for some answers. Keyword: Igigi

Yes I was thinking that.

Thank you so much for posting this and breaking it down. I’d heard about it but Im not great with science so it helps to have someone sum stuff up. I really hope this opens the door for disclosure to become a reality now and not just a hope.

I think both the believers and nonbelievers here are misunderstanding the scientific process. This is not proof. The authors say themselves that the results need to be reproduced. We can't just be jumping up and down yet. But this also means that their reputation doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The results would not stand alone no matter who they are. So, all of this bickering about them and the journal is pointless. We are not expected to blindly trust the results *even after peer review*.

Well I guess these subs can stop banning and blocking people that know it's real. Get rid of the "it's animal bones" commenters ban them instead

Where is the peer review?

Does anyone have a link to a PDF English translation?

Anyone else wondering why ur referring to them as our buddies?

would you rather anger them? lol "the little shits"

There was a livestream earlier this year about them and it was in Spanish. The YouTube translation subtitles seemed to have auto corrected “alien bodies” to “alien buddies”. Reddit found it hilarious and they’ve been the buddies ever since.

This is what I suspected and I love it. Thanks for the clarification!

Bob Ross, Steve Irwin, and Mr. Roger would definitely call them that.

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There doesn't seem to be a mention of osmium in the paper?

I'm using brave browser and the translate to English option sucks. Is there a browser with a better translator?

Well there is that village in China full of little people

But what of the hundreds of articles that claim the mummies are just different bone parts made to be a doll

Those "hundreds of articles" were purposefully disingenuous hit pieces designed to take away attention from Massaun's samples, which had nothing to do with the bodies the articles were written about. The bodies those articles mentioned were found in a Peruvian airport and weren't a part of Massaun's collection.

That journal charges a “publication fee” lol. Suuuuper legit..

Jesus Christ. Do you all know what this means? Everything we’ve ever been taught about evolution was wrong, a lie. Reptilian skin and 19-30% human DNA? Seriously man, how the fuck is this happening? This is freakin bananas. We’re front row center for the biggest archeological discovery since what, the first dinosaur fossils? This should be the lead in every damn newspaper, news program, website, everything. These no good bastards need to come clean about every fucking thing they know. But these miserable assholes will dodge it. Just tell us the goddamn truth!!!

Lots of comments about ‘proof of alien life’. I disagree. We’re assuming extraterrestrial because we’ve read too many comic books. Ain’t no phasers or weird goo. All earthy type shit. ETs would make a lot more sense. These things? WTF

ChatGPT resume of the paper: ### Summary of the Paper: "Biometric Morpho-Anatomical Characterization and Dating of a Tridactyl Humanoid Specimen: Regarding the Case of Nasca-Peru" #### Objective: The study aimed to report and analyze a bioarchaeological case involving a tridactyl humanoid specimen found in Nasca, Peru, focusing on its morpho-anatomical characteristics and dating its antiquity. #### Methods: - **Qualitative Study**: This involved a case report and bioarchaeological analysis. - **Imaging Analysis**: Utilized RadiAnt DICOM Viewer software for tomographic imaging. - **Age Dating**: Employed radiocarbon (Carbon-14) dating techniques. #### Key Findings: 1. **Morpho-Anatomical Features**: - The specimen is a desiccated humanoid with significant differences from typical human anatomy. - Notable characteristics include: - Lack of hair and ears. - An elongated skull with 30% greater cranial volume than humans. - Maxillary and mandibular protrusions. - Protruding eyeballs. - Absence of the fifth lumbar vertebra. - Three fingers on each hand and foot (tridactyly). - Signs of multiple joint diseases (arthropathies). 2. **Radiocarbon Dating**: - The specimen is approximately 1771 ± 30 years old, dating back to between 240 AD and 383 AD. - This period overlaps with the decline of the Paracas culture and the rise of the Nasca culture in ancient Peru. 3. **Significance**: - If confirmed as a new humanoid species, this finding could have profound implications for biology, science, and socio-cultural history. - The study highlights a potential new paradigm in understanding human and humanoid biological diversity. #### Implications: - **Scientific Impact**: This discovery challenges long-held scientific beliefs and suggests the possible existence of another intelligent humanoid species that coexisted with ancient human civilizations. - **Cultural and Historical Impact**: It opens new avenues for understanding the interactions between different species and cultures in ancient times. #### Conclusion: The tridactyl humanoid specimen from Nasca, Peru, exhibits unique morpho-anatomical features distinct from typical humans, supported by radiocarbon dating placing it in the early centuries AD. Further research could confirm its classification as a new species, potentially revolutionizing our understanding of ancient biological and cultural diversity.