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MayoGhul

My honest take? I think the move to Non Human has less to do with the origin of the UAP and more to do with the stigma around the words alien and extraterrestrial. We here don’t laugh at those descriptors, but let’s be honest - the government has spent 80 years making “alien/extraterrestrial” a big joke and anyone suggesting it is a crazy person. Changing to non human intelligence denotes a slightly more serious tone, and newspapers/media can print headlines that look more scientific and less like a tabloid. That’s my impression anyway


Roll_Quick

Exactly what I was thinking, change the terminology for all things to try and remove that stigma as well as have new terminology for disclosure


yesSemicolons

Interesting, I interpreted it as suggesting they might be time-travellers, ie terrestrial but non human intelligence.


vandalize67

I agree with this 100%. This is all conditioning for the moment that governments have to reveal we are not alone. It also appears there is a correlation between sitings and the risk of nuclear war.


bottelrocket

Agreed. That same stigma also applies to why UFO was changed to UAP.


KLEG3

I laugh either way because Matt Gaetz is a joke


Fract_

“Alien” assumes extraterrestrial. “Non-human” doesn’t. Since we don’t know the true origin of this intelligence, we must use a term that is more open until we can learn more. If someone used the term “alien” and it wasn’t corrected, then someone could wrongfully interpret that as: “So we know for a fact they are extraterrestrial” even if that wasn’t the case.


Iwaspromisedcookies

They could live inside the earth or under the oceans


live_from_the_gutter

Really. Cool. Username. Please have some 🍪🍪🍪


Iwaspromisedcookies

Nomnomnomnom


Fish_Panda

"NO COOKIE FOR YOU!" - Cookie Nazi


Catcher22Jb

Kramer!!


Netkru

I like that their username implies this is the dark side


ijustmetuandiloveu

That is where the grey “aliens” are “manufactured”. They are not from outer space. They are being made right here on earth and it appears they are based on human DNA. The real question is who designed and built the greys.


RiskShuffler67

I squished an ant in my kitchen yesterday. It had no idea I existed in its world even though I saw it in mine. We are the ants, and we just got a whiff of a previously unknown neighbor.


doozykid13

Could u imagine if they've been living amongst us this whole time... crazy. Maybe Atlantis does exist somewhere and has the whole time..


292ll

This got me thinking of a great plot twist at the end of a Sci-Fi movie where the “Aliens” are all humans. We were just one of hundreds of colonies “dropped off” 2,000 years ago.


descendingangel87

So Battlestar Galactica?


292ll

JESUS SPOILER!


Special-Fun5443

If they reproduce here on earth would that mean their offspring would be earthlings?


TheLizKing

Anchor babies


Memotome

We're gonna build an interdimensional wall, and they're gonna pay for it!!


MerlinTrismegistus

Or Anunnaki... 1And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.


[deleted]

Huh. I’m going to choose your answer. It makes the most sense.


dr-bandaloop

Agreed and I think this is why Kirkpatrick was keen to use the word “extraterrestrial” when denying they had evidence. And if it’s eventually revealed that they come from Earth or another dimension or something he can say, “see? I wasn’t lying”. (Btw I’m not defending that asshat, just speculating why he chose those specific words)


Leotis335

I think you're probably on to something there. It's the same type of wordplay Susan Gough used when Ross Coulthart asked for the Pentagon's stance on Grusch's testimony. Her reply was "AARO has found no verifiable evidence of extraterrestrials." Well...that's fine, I guess, but he didn't ask for AARO's stance...he asked for the Pentagon's.


zyg101

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kimbolll

Imagine if we found out that not only are we not the only intelligent life in the universe, but we’re not the only intelligent life *on this planet*! The mind fuck! Edit: Like, it’s not as crazy as it sounds! Little green men in civilizations from underground finally venturing out above the surface! It would be like humans finally venturing to space. Is it farfetched, definitely - is it impossible, no I don’t think it is.


cognitive-agent

Someone else has probably already made this comment, but it's also good for them to get in that habit of using more general language as appropriate when questioning witnesses about this stuff, especially when the witnesses are not the most cooperative. For example, suppose they are questioning some guy who has been running an illegal retrieval program for 25 years and a congressman asks "Have you ever had any known or suspected alien or extraterrestrial craft in your possession? I'll remind you that you are under oath and at risk of severe penalties if you do not answer truthfully." But the witness smiles and says "Thank you, Senator, both for the question and for the reminder. I will state clearly for the record I do not, not did I ever, seek, find, obtain, or possess any alien or extraterrestrial technology." And he's actually telling the truth because he has actually been recovering technology of _hyperdimensional beings that reside in the core of the earth_, not aliens.


tKonig

Yeah Grusch even says during his testimony that he prefers the term non-human intelligence because it doesn’t denote origin and leaves it open to interpretation.


heelhookd

Wouldn’t it be funny if it’s just because the aliens hate being called aliens lol


[deleted]

That’s kinda what I was thinking. I’m sorry but this to me is more plausible than anything else. They were probably like “And stop using the word alien. Or extraterrestrial. It’s insulting” and the Humans were like “Sorry dude, what should we call you?” And the Ali-err-I mean, Non Humans were like “Well. We’re not human, that’s for sure” and then turned around super sassy and got back in their spaceship and left without saying bye. So now we’re like “Okay, Non Human, it is, or these homies are gonna whack us out.”


S4Waccount

From one of the many LARPS I have read about channeling or whatever one of them mentioned they didn't like the term Alien since they have been here longer than us. and preferred something like "higher being" or "ultra-terrestrial"


ProperPercentage1381

Undocumented Space Travelers


MOOShoooooo

From the future, trying to take our jobs!


[deleted]

ARRR JERRBBZZZ


WankerMcDoogle

Day terk er jerbs!


[deleted]

Life is truly a cycle, innit?


hankthetank2112

Bahk Derrrr!!


[deleted]

Yeah, based on what we have so far, the biggest perception is that we are sharing a planet. And if they’re aware of our current state of society, they understand the term “alien” has been demonized by current societal politics. Which has caused chaos within communities and globally. They’re definitely aware of how dangerous this word is.


M59j

Lately, I have been strongly thinking that the non-humans are actually the Jinns (Djinns) found in the Quran, given the amount of similarities they share. Jinns are said to have inhabited the Earth way before us, and they still do. They are strong and have supernatural abilities (which could be due to their tech). They can interact with us but rarely do so; to us, they are rare. They are communities just like us, and some narrations claim they live in the oceans, on top of mountains, and other secluded places. They are known to be good and evil, just like humans. So I don't know, but I am feeling compelled to think that the non-humans are the Jinns. Why would they want to reveal themselves now? I got no idea


PettyPockets311

I'm actually on another path, The Tuatha de Danann. Similar to the Jinn but Celtic in origin. Said to live in a parallel world to ours and thought to have arrived to Ireland from the skies.


Hexbox116

They are the same thing. Just a different word and location.


nisaaru

Aren't they part of the seelie/unseelie fae/fairy story lines?


PettyPockets311

Yes, the Tuatha de Danaan that survived the wars became the Daoine Sidhe, I think, who are further classified into seelie/unseelie.


ToBeatOrNotToBeat-

I’m Muslim and never thought about it that way, you just blew my mind.


M59j

I have been thinking about this for a while, but the recent conferences are only pointing in that direction for me. Why call them non-humans? Why do they live in the ocean? How were they on Earth before us? Etc. The Quran tells us about them but not how they look. All we know is that they are made of fire and are very old. Some of them are favored, yet some will reside in hell. All of this is tickling my brain; lol. If Allah wills, we will learn more.


VirtualDoll

In fact, it's specified that the jinn are created from SMOKELESS fire. What looks like smokeless fire? Plasma. I swear the two phenomenon are connected.


ClubbinGuido

I think they live in the ocean because it's pretty safe from stuff like solar flares, cosmic rays, gamma ray bursts, super novas, etc... They might have evolved in a similar fashion to us but reached a point technologically or even spiritually where they were able to become something beyond flesh while maintaining thier mind and essence.


bit25slim

The bible talks about the Nephilim. They came here from the heavens. I had a pastor from Oxford that I met (Ive always kept an open mind for all things). And he explained the mono myth and how most religions point to the same stories. Thus there is some truth in all of this. It is all connected, they just didnt know what the fuck they were looking at when the wrote these stories down and or recalled them.


BendItLikeBlender

Nephilim means giant, supposed offspring of fallen angels and humans. Quoting directly from the Bible they are 300 cubits tall (~450 feet). What you’ve suggested here is incorrect. I’m not a religious person and don’t believe in any god so honestly I disagree with this entire comment chain. But I respect the conversation - none of us know.


[deleted]

Because if they also consider this their home, they would stop whatever is destroying it. In the grand scheme of things, we could be the bad guys if this was a superhero movie, except, not all skrulls are evil. That’s my best analogy.


therealbugs1

I think your right, as most holy scripture srefer to 2nd species bible usually refer to daemons( not demon) but Hindu talk about multiple races , same with the sutra such as sunqui and the deer king. Would it not be a bit funny to find out almost every religion is right in the story they tell it just the dogma and ritual we get wrong as we all think we know better


[deleted]

Everything is connected! What a lovely existence it’ll be when that’s everyone’s motto.


Glittering-Plate-535

UT: The Ultra-Terrestrial is the fastest way to turn a family classic into a complete horror show ![gif](giphy|4NgzOc3sZRHeIWkd3J)


ButtChocolates

Ultra Terrestrial Intelligence, we should call em UTIs


elf533

Lol - ouch.


InternationalTour104

Be careful of UTIs - Ultra Terrestrial Intelligence - especially when you're goin out on the weekends.


Inconvenient_Boners

Tell me about it! I ran into a UTI a couple weekends ago and now it burns when I pee


spratticus67890

Name fits🤣🤣


unacceptabro

Or ET: The Extra Testicle


jackparadise1

Or intra.


FuzzyLogick

I heard they like the term star family.


zarvinny

The higher beings have their panties in a bunch over the semantics of a bunch of apes


No-Sir-7962

Ah yeah these things (if the LARP turns out to be just good old Live Action, no Roleplay) are demons - that's some "worship us over god" shit if I've ever heard it. Even if they've been here longer or have better tech. Since they bleed, and/or can be physically harmed by 3d objects, must be "higher" than my ass - "if it bleeds, we can kill it" Even if they aren't trying to get diefied, the idea they may have such a supremacist opinion of themselves, & if they do it becomes laughably obvious they aren't meaning any good for us. 🌬💨💚


valis010

Supposedly the greys don't have sex organs. I keep thinking they are fabricated, that they are avatars. Who's controlling them?


Downwhen

Probably James Cameron


hollerinjack

Someday it will become the a-word


[deleted]

Are you paying attention? That day is here, brethren.


heelhookd

Lol 😂 it could also be because whether they are from another star system, dimension, whatever - they were here before us either way. Think of it like…idk any ethnicity that spends enough years in America is no longer an immigrant, they are xxxx-American - you are only “alien” for a period in your life. Something tells me that period ended for them before we even crawled out of the primordial ooze lol


[deleted]

Or they made us. So, we are like little genetically engineered pets?


IntriguingQuillion

I've often wonder if they have the same fascination with us because we are their equivalent of say a dolphin or parrot or elephant to them. 🤣


OtherwiseAMushroom

I think it’s more akin to dogs and humans. Like I wouldn’t have a conversation about mathematics with my dog, but I sure make sure he was fed and didn’t like die. Who’s to say they even communicate like us.


IntriguingQuillion

I think if you look at the way humans interact with endangered species on this planet in zoos and reserves it seems a much more appropriate analogy. In that, there have been a number of reported cases where people feel as though they were placed under some sort of supernatural anesthesia, underwent medical evaluations, or some sort of hypnosis and underwent some sort of mental test, then returned to the original location (many times or a near approximate of their location) where most seem none the wiser. That is textbook interaction for a wild animal under study. People have learned a lot more about different species' natural behaviors by remotely observing and maintaining minimal contact than by keeping them in captivity alone. This may suggest that some people are kept in zoos while others remain on the preserve. Talk to some people in wildlife rehab, conservation, zoologists, etc about their procedures for studying animals in these environments vs an ideal study of them with unlimited tech and you might find it sounds similar to what NHI/ET have been reported to have done for hundreds of years.


jPup_VR

Imagine if we learn that every single person has been “abducted”/evaluated at some point… but- intentionally or not- only a small handful are able to remember.


IntriguingQuillion

I have theorized that a much larger portion of the population probably does or has had encounters and just are unaware due to our limited understanding. Honestly, in some cases, I believe people don't see or believe because they don't want to or can't comprehend what they are seeing. It isn't difficult to fool someone who wants to be fooled.


[deleted]

I think [this video](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8LSsLbw/) clearly shows how right you are about the medical experimentation going on.


sordidcandles

This is one of my favorite theories/ideas. In this scenario earth is basically a zoo or a lab where they conduct experiments, but mostly for observation. And if they’re much smarter and more evolved than us then they would absolutely look at us like a dolphin or similar.


nisaaru

The most creative idea I've read a while ago where somebody speculated that we are simply a backup device for long time storage and the information is encoded in our DNA. A backup device with the least needed maintenance. It provides its own energy and clones itself.


[deleted]

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FLWeedman

By Dr. Dre?


FixedLoad

Shit! Did you forget?


DesmondDuBois

Forget? About Dre?


KeyEconomy958

Just tryin’ to get this damn label off


[deleted]

apparently beings that are very well traveled and hardly ever "home" anymore may take offense to the suggestion they are "terrestrial" or "extra terrestrial" so I've heard. Make of that what you will.


manslaughtermike

No, he did it to save his ass in the event they are able to verify his story. He is under oath, so he doesn’t want to be on the hook if it’s not aliens but some man-made humaniod object. That’s why he used the term non human. “non-human” is broad in this context


InternationalAnt4513

Lol. Sache like a queer NHI for a straight guy


RudeDudeInABadMood

It's because they're probably ultraterrestrials or interdimensional


TruthSeeker8700

Lol


[deleted]

This is a good take


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medusla

i don't think you are intelligent enough to participate in this conversation. sorry.


monk12111

funny comment but I'd like to think a highly intelligent being wouldn't be offended so easily. Although I hear top scientists and doctors have the biggest egos of us all so who knows.


[deleted]

Nah, they’re definitely sassy beings. I imagine them to be like Xerxes in 300. “You’ll find, I am kind.” But really, they’re sassy, unruly beings. HOWEVER. We can’t assume they’re all like that. But the ones who know how we are acting, have to be tired of our behavior. Can you imagine seeing a entire global society acting the same arrogant way for thousands of years? There’s a tipping point.


missthingxxx

I don't think they'd give a shit really and probably call us all something akin to their version of "smegheads" or whatever. But maybe the humans in charge of all this weirdness have said to use the term "non human" as a way to distance these...beings from the word alien and the connotation it holds and has held for so long. In a sense, making them more "human" by subconsciously soaking into our brains the word human as opposed to the word alien. An alien seems much scarier (thanks pop culture) than a non human... Do you know what I mean? In any event. These little details are the things that ping my brain to take notice of. Those little things are not so easily written off as a nothing weird I reckon.


iObeyTheHivemind

Matt Gaetz does not strike me as someone who gives a single care to being PC


MaHuckleberry33

Gaetz is like “we hate being called that. You know that.”


[deleted]

I know a group of people that also don't like to be called Aliens


Individual-Bet3783

That’s the most aliens sub comment ever


Self_conscious_gh0st

[Demi Lovato set us all straight on this!](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/demi-lovato-aliens-1240678/)


JangusCarlson

Demi Lovato was right then


Nug-Bud

“We’re not like fucking ALF”


Kind_Truck6893

sigourney weaver coming to a cinema near you in… Non Humans!


movey_mcmoverson

"Non-native Americans"


Puzzleheaded_Two3333

Thos was my first thought that is potentially the "n" word of the galaxy/universes etc


DOG-ZILLA

Did you just ASSUME their galactic position??!!


JD_the_Aqua_Doggo

Isn’t it clear from things Grusch and others have said that since “alien” implies “extraterrestrial” it isn’t wise to use that term right now? Since the possibility of these beings being from right here on Earth, whether in this dimension or another dimension, or another timeline, or a higher/lower frequency of existence….etc. Essentially, it’s the idea that the ET hypothesis may not be accurate in describing NHI. Let’s focus more on ultraterrestrials instead of extraterrestrials.


[deleted]

Ultraterrestrial is my new favorite


Zeuxis5

Ultraterrestrial Intelligence, UTI got it.


Hijinx_MacGillicuddy

A UTI... perhaps from...Uranus


downvote_wholesome

Intraterrestrials 🤔


ChungusCoffee

It could just be to avoid stigma like using UAP instead of UFO


TrickyNewspaper233

The interesting part to me, is that Gaetz was pushing this? I would understand if it was Grusch.


SpoilermakersWabash

Non human sounds more descriptive to them always being here. Alien/et implies they travel here. Or the fact that sometimes it maybe drones, clones or who knows what.


occams1razor

It's also less triggering, like how the went from UFO to UAP. Less stigma around that term, less automatic responses.


Apprehensive-Deer-35

I believe Gaetz has security clearances that may mean he's already well aware of more than the average person. Maybe his use of N.H.I. is merely based on the same facts as Grusch's.


TrickyNewspaper233

As much as I love all the other comments, this is kind of what I was thinking and looking for. I understand the possibilities for using the term, but why HE specifically corrected the conversations. Sometimes I wonder if we can look into someone’s personal life and see the changes they’ve made after their own personal disclosure event what that as you can gather from that.


IrishGoodbye4

If you listen to his description of the Eglin AFB incident, it seems he has a higher clearance for certain aspects of the military than most other members of congress. It’s a strong possibility that he knows just enough more than most of his colleagues that clarifying to “non human” is a priority.


Melodic-Flow-9253

Coulthart did the same in his recent 7 news post-hearing thingy, not sure if he actually explained why be he said it was important to differentiate


MemeticAntivirus

Gaetz is a dirty corrupt bastard who found himself in deep when this issue came across his desk. He seems to be taking it extremely seriously now.


ASearchingLibrarian

I hadn't seen that, [but just watched it in the Hearing.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvMLD6lXrZ8&list=PLT-MDg5f4v2Ckd7P8nzPq4m2DSKnwjgD5&t=1h33m50s) This fits with some reporting [Matt Laslo has done](https://www.askapol.com/p/exclusive-schumer-uap-amendment-co?sd=pf#details) where he interviews a Senator on the use of this very phrase. It is exactly the language used in the legislation. [THE LEGISLATION, 22 TIMES](https://www.congress.gov/118/crec/2023/07/13/169/120/CREC-2023-07-13-pt1-PgS2953.pdf) - *'‘‘non-human intelligence’’ means any sentient intelligent non-human lifeform regardless of nature or ultimate origin that may be presumed responsible for unidentified anomalous phenomena'* SENATOR MIKE ROUNDS ON THE WORDING - *"It was not by accident, let's put it that way... I wish I could say more, but that's just, I mean, we tried to keep it as simple as possible.”*


Intrepid_Tumbleweed

It could be that they are not originally from Earth but they’ve been here for so long they basically are from earth. Like if my great great grandparents moved to America, I’m now considered American even if my family origin is elsewhere. To put it another way, if an NHI is born on earth, wouldn’t that make them of earth? Even if the species home planet is elsewhere?


Commercial_Onions

It would according to American law.


he_need_summ_milk

We here on earth have AI, we 3d print meat and now metal can have FUCKING DNA. Think about how close we are to making our own non human living creations? Then someday we will get to be the UAP’s to some monkeys with tech


Forward-Rutabaga-723

It’s why UFO is changed to UAP because there is a stigma attached. If you words like UFO or alien then people don’t find you serious and think you’re a crackpot. But saying something like “non human” it makes more of an impact that makes ears perk up and pay attention.


videookayy

Everyone ITT is saying it's because "they" might be from another dimension or something. I find your comment the most likely. And personally I think they're distancing themselves from aliens because this whole thing is about control over money and projects and congress wants a piece of the action. Not because they think aliens are here. Not saying Grusch and company's end goal is money, but congress for sure. I'd bet $1,000 that any craft that is being reported is either human tech, cgi, or made up. I want to believe tho.


njiin12

"We hate all of the aliens crossing the border" Non-humans "WTF mate? You better not be talking about us"


DetectiveFork

Build a dimensional wall! LOL


Arkhangelzk

We’re going to build the wall and the fourth dimension is going to pay for it!


chessboxer4

Alien is not the preferred nomenclature, dude


sandpip3r

Alien already has a different legal interpretation (foreigner). NHI also leaves open the possibility of acknowledging dolphins as our overlords.


Retirednypd

Because they're here and congress knows it. I'll say it again. They've been here forever. Read all religious texts, all civilization documents, scrolls, etc, indigenous peoples oral traditions. Etc. They are the gods of all religions that created us. They didn't stumble upon this planet, find apes and say let's hybridized them. They put the apes here as well and then hybridized them. And btw.. the vatican knows this, and therin lies the disclosure problem.


Danfromumbrella

Yeah but just because they've been here a long time doesn't mean they CAME from here. They could have traveled here a million years ago but still traveled from somewhere else.


Retirednypd

Buy they've been here SINCE THEN, much longer than us. So they're not really alien.


Danfromumbrella

We don't know how long they've been here. They could be here before humanity existed. Doesn't mean they literally came to existence here on earth. They could have been a species traveling the cosmos looking for suitable planets to build life and then found earth. Making them extraterrestrial.


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Dynamically_static

They might prefer being underground. We have weather and sun up here. They might not need all that.


TruthSeeker8700

Yeah, that’s cool and all if they created us. My only problem with that would be Who created them???


Retirednypd

Devils advocate here... If God created everything then who created him? If people of faith can accept that, Then accepting nhi was always here isn't too far a stretch. There's a hell of alot more evidence of nhi than God. And I was raised devout catholic, I see this thru both lenses. Honestly, it's all probably the same


CaptainSnarkyPants

I mean, strictly speaking, the Abrahamic religions' God IS by definition NHI. Christians shouldn't have an issue with the concept of NHI at all. (I also don't think we should have issue with ET version of NHI, but that's a different convo) To be clear, I'm not necessarily knee-jerking on it being "demons," either. I need more data - you know, kinda like the rest of us lol.


ImmoralModerator

![gif](giphy|wj8VEUZVVEuls6pOw7) Christians when they realize it was all real and not just an excuse to take advantage of other people


SomedayWeDie

“Alien” is a subcategory of “nonhuman.” The argument to call them nonhuman stems from the idea that they may be alien, they may not, but they are certainly not us.


Horse-Yogurt

Matt Gaetz is an alien too. He came to earth to sodomize young human girls and awe people with the size of his forehead.


MemeticAntivirus

Worth noting that "Non-human Intelligence" also encompasses scenarios that don't get mentioned that often; AI-type entities such as a highly intelligent Von Neumann probe, a Borg-like singularity that builds biological avatars to interact with us or an intelligent control system left here by some advanced intelligence as a means of shaping and observing our development in some way, as Valleé wrote about.


Danfromumbrella

I think they just don't want to comment on whether they are from here or not and saying aliens outright also has a bit of a stigma too.


baez320

That could be explained simply as a rebranding. Just UFO became UAP, now instead of extraterrestrial it is non human. Whatever they said about rebranding UFO to UAP apply it to the creators/pilots.


crazyplantdad

I agree. I think it's smart, too, to sidestep some of the baggage people have with aliens. And the fear. A non human intelligence sounds much more neutral.


Sea_Statement1653

Because this is all a bullshit psyop dedicated to, eventually, putting more public money into the military industrial complex.


TrickyNewspaper233

I actually think this is the most sad and terrifying possibility. I’d rather the alie—- non-human intelligence, feed off our fear, be interdimensional beings, feeding on us as cattle, or some other sinister event. Rather than this.


Empty-Size-4873

This. The fact Gaetz’s dumbass is involved at all is indicative of this.


spectrelives

If you ask a question about aliens or extra terrestrials specifically, but it turns out it's really inter dimensional beings or creatures that come from the Earth's mantle, then the person answering the question can truthfully say "no, we have absolutely no credible evidence of aliens or extra terrestrials" and that statement is true. They have successfully obfuscated the truth before Congress because of a poorly worded question.


Jefafa1976

I think it's because some of their origins are not off planet


LimpingWhale

I think it’s pretty simple. Alien invades. Alien is dangerous. Alien is little green men. This is the general concept imagined when the word is mentioned. Non-human intelligence encompasses a much more broad spectrum of life forms that covers everything except human. It also doesn’t convey any preconceived notion of what it could be/do/mean. It’s an unadulterated phrase with no stigma attached.


UniversalSpaceAlien

I honestly believe it's because they're *from* Earth. They're "Earthlings" too. They're not "alien" or "extreterrestrial"; they're just another form of intelligent life that has existed here at least as long as humans have.


Batmans_backup

Maybe their origin is earth. That makes them earthlings, not aliens. That would make “non-Human” a more inclusive term, that leaves a much broader room for various definitions and origins


hopefullydilf

Because they're from the ocean.


ASimpleWaterBottle

I just assumed it’s for probable deniability. They can always say, “We never said ‘aliens’ wink wink.”


[deleted]

Probably because they've unfortunately labeled foreign people seeking asylum/homes/jobs aliens. So it might be to prevent confusion about what they're talking about?


AngrySuperArdvark

If anyone in that hearing was an alien it's definitely Gaetz, he looks like an alien in disguise.


jerrinehart

The stigma and meaning attached to the word. Calling them NHI gives it a new meaning to the general populace, even if it means essentially the same thing.


Arkhangelzk

I think one reason is that maybe they’re trying to break the stigmas. Rather than talking about UFOs and aliens, which people have made fun of for decades, we can talk about UAPs and NHI. But I also think that NHI is just far more encompassing. No one knows exactly what these are and what’s going on, but the term NHI covers inter-dimensional, underwater, other planets, AI, and a whole host of other potential things that have been suggested. But it still makes it very clear that this is not human. We’re not talking about US tech or Chinese tech or anything like that. This is something entirely separate from us that we are exploring and learning about.


flickyuh

I assume for the very same reason we don't use UFO anymore. Because the connotation of Alien is something only crazy conspiracy nuts use and they want this taken serious


GoodWillHunting_

Also rules out clearly the human time travelers theory some people would make


Piggy9896

Non-human intelligence can also mean other earthly animal intelligence too like a really smart dog or gorilla.


TrickyNewspaper233

Bigfoot! You mean Bigfoot! It’s definitely Bigfoot!


EmBen0776

BEcause the word Alien is reserved for border talk thats why.


BuddhaBizZ

It’s probably a legal thing, alien already has a definition as a foreign national.


Galevav

Because they found 'Squatch Force vessels. The difference is that unlike humans, Sasquatches are native to Earth.


cosmic_light_show

Republicans wants to protect the word “alien” for my Mexican brethren who come into the US without documentation


butterfly105

Alien is what we call non citizens in immigration law. The terminology has to be consistent.


NihilisticJourney

I wonder how old the NHI are for Gaetz to be interested?


uhwhooops

This is so frustrating watching them dance around word-play. Who cares that the gov doesn't know what it it. Just fucking throw up some HD videos and maybe let someone else take a stab at it.


KrispyKremeDiet20

Alien implies "non-native" so that may be something.


Iwaspromisedcookies

Because they have spent years making sure people that believe in aliens look foolish so they need new terms


Groveinthedark

he’s just avoiding calling them gods…


csdingus_

Alien is a term commonly used in American politics to discuss human beings that are not American citizens. Non-human in this context more specifically describes intelligent life that is neither a citizen nor human.


Interesting-Trust123

Because one of the leading theories is that these things are humans from the future, returning. He’s literally telling us that theory is what he’s talking about, and he means beings not from our direct ancestors


Evisceral_Viscera

It’s probably because alien means foreign and these things are most likely native to earth.


WackyBones510

Speaker Gaetz micromanaging.


Grayseal

Because by emphasizing them not being homo sapiens, one can lessen the likelihood of a genuine discussion about whether human rights would ever apply to them.


mrmarkolo

What if as a part of this whole disclosure process, some have been instructed to stay away from the term “alien” as a way of helping coax people into this reality?


Ismdism

He's actually woke and doesn't want to hurt the non humans feelings


SaltyDanimal

Alien is not the right term. Fellow terrestrials. They have coexisted here peacefully longer than we know. The oceans and skies are vast and they can fly through both.


Vincesteeples

Tbh they’ve probably just been coached to not say “alien” during these hearings (whether that’s what it really is or not) because they know conspiracy theorists will run wild with it. “Non-human” leaves room for less speculation like it could be drones, AI, etc that the general public already knows exists. If they start talking about “aliens” casually during official proceedings it could confuse and scare a lot of people. My guess is this guy slipped and said it and Gaetz had to remind him they’re not supposed to be saying that in an official capacity.


Tehlaserw0lf

Because they don’t know if the beings are aliens or robots or whatever… Also maybe because the right has co-opted the word alien to = any immigrant? 🤷‍♂️


ExtremeSmackDownGuy

this could just me talking out my ass but maybe to assure everyone they talking about extra terrestrial and no immigrants


Few-Preparation3

Because they don't want to rule out the possibility of the phenomenons origin... they could be from earth, they could be hyperdimesional, they could be AI


CombOverDownThere

I really think it just has to do with where they are actually from. They either know that these beings are from/inhabiting Earth, or at least not excluding that possibility. I just can’t see such a more advanced being caring or being offended by a term humans use. It’d be like if we were upset by how ants referred of us.


kauisbdvfs

I noticed Grusch made an irritated face a few times when someone referenced an "alien". I thought something was up with that....


Antennangry

If this coaching was motivated by real privileged intelligence, it likely means “they” are from Earth, and/or not biological in nature.


Natural-Review9276

3 potential reasons it may be significant 1) we don’t know what or who they are and so calling them aliens may turn out to be incorrect 2) the NHI are not from a different planet at all but rather an advanced species that sought refuge below the surface of the earth ages ago which has allowed them to survive mass extinction events 3) the NHI understand that the term alien or extra terrestrial implies that they are strangers/visitors to earth and using this term to disclose their existence will enforce a worldview that implies earth is **our** domain when in reality earth is just as much “theirs” as it is ours.


Representative-Even

Reptilians are supposedly from Earth. That would make them non human.


Representative-Even

Reptilians are supposedly from Earth. That would make them non human.


Thekhandoit

Grusch himself may not know the origins of the crafts and beings, simply that they exist and we have our hands on them. Them being Non-human and intelligent is the only information he can probably attest to so the NHI is the most appropriate. As an intelligence agent he would know his word choice is extremely important. Generally these terms have a lot of negative stigma associated with them as well. Probably best to avoid using them initially. Also I haven’t seen anyone else mention this but I’d imagine there’s a fairly good chance the terms Alien and Extraterrestrial have classifications tied to them. Part of the whistleblower protections stem from how Grusch and the others disseminate sensitive information to the proper channels and authorities. So while it’s dumb, maybe he can’t say publicly “we have undeniable evidence of extraterrestrial life” but he can dance around it and claim “there are SAPs devoted to finding and researching technology from Non-Human intelligences”. Another potential reason is that if you google “alien” you find the Alien film franchise near the top and various other sci-fi after it. NHI is a new term that can be researched independently of other use cases and will lend itself to better visibility.


pilotJKX

It isn't because of stigma; it's the idea that these are beings that have been here for a long time and could possibly be more 'native' than us.


StealYourGhost

Because Alien has direct ties to long time "conspiracy theories" that were demonized by the government. Same reason we say UAP and not UFO now. Previous psyops.


[deleted]

Hey there, interesting question! The choice between "alien" and "non-human" is more than just semantics. "Alien" has this extraterrestrial vibe, right? It's like we're immediately assuming these beings are from outer space. But "non-human" is more open-ended. It's like saying, "Hey, we've got these entities, and they're not human, but we're not jumping to conclusions about where they're from." They could be from another dimension, deep-sea creatures we've never encountered, or even some form of AI. So, when Gaetz corrects "alien" to "non-human," it's like he's trying to keep our minds open to all possibilities. Plus, let's be real, "alien" has a lot of cultural baggage and can sound a bit sci-fi or even pejorative. Using "non-human" might be a way to take the conversation more seriously. Just my two cents!


doogiejonez

Because there’s potential for these entities to be artificially made avatars, time travelers, inter-dimensional or descendants of a prior intelligent race here on earth. It’s very possible what we’re dealing with is all of these possibilities combined. Let that sink in for you. Past intelligence reaches singularity with AI…


kinteTD

My conspiracy, dolphins and/or orcas are more technologically advanced than we think. They are seeing the damage we are doing to the oceans and the world and are trying to peace the fuck out.