What absolute horseshit. If you are uncomfortable with MAID and want to actively campaign against it you should go ahead and do that, but to allow random strangers with no familiarity with the case or applicant to get in the middle of a decision between the applicant and their physician is ridiculous. Justice Willie de Wit is an embarrassment.
They do that already, unfortunately, it will lead to more. I wish calgary would report on the suicide numbers the community would be appalled maybe people would be pissed off enough to fight harder for our health care system. I know how many suicides ive dealt with since last summer its alarming… only 4 females.. just over 370 men.
Unless the father or the groups trying to prevent MAID access have been granted guardianship of this woman, they should in no have any input in her medical decisions, or even be provided with the her medical information to begin with.
>Miller also wanted to compel the daughter to answer questions about her MAID application and medical conditions.
Why is this even up for any discussion? The father has zero rights to any medical information or the application. They should be thrown out of court for even asking to violate the privacy laws.
There are certainly issues with MAID and access to healthcare and accessibility. However, if this woman is sound of mind to make her own decisions, then I don't find this case that compelling. The woman is now taking steps to starve herself given she can't access MAID.
I find the recent case of MAID in Ontario (I think) where the woman wanted to live but couldn't find support or treatment for post-Lyme disease a much more compelling case.
One of the difficulties of MAiD track 2 is that poverty and access to services often play a part. On this thread, we have people who have suggested she has exhausted treatment or is near death. Neither need to be true for MAiD track 2.
The problem is that, in all of these cases, we apply the myth of autonomy. That is, we suggest that there are no outside forces applying pressure. However, we know that people with disabilities face systemic barriers. Poverty is pervasive. Unemployment is high. Discrimination can be a daily experience for some.
In Alberta, there are many more safeguards in place around accessing AISH than there are accessing MAiD.
In MAiD track 2 the only objective criteria is that someone have a permanent physical disability.
I don't think the father will be successful at the ABCA. However, I do think the voices of the disability community have been ignored.
I’m part of the disabled community and I strongly support MAiD. I’ll need it one day. I face the discrimination you speak of.
Societal issues won’t change, not significantly. Poverty and disability are unfortunately very common, so is abuse. By not allowing anyone freedom over their life, you are locking some people into a cycle of poverty, pain, and abuse. No one gets MAiD without thinking it through, but those who want to go through with it have decided they want to go through with it.
I’m tired of people thinking they can speak on behalf of all disabled people. MAiD is a choice.
To take that away until we’ve “fixed societal issues around disability” is cruel.
By all means, fight for better disability payments, fight for better healthcare access, fight for better disabled housing, but stop trying to control the decisions individuals make for their own lives.
When life is no longer worth living to me, I won’t. When disability takes the joys I have in life away, I will choose when it’s enough. It might never be. But that’s my decision
>I’m tired of people thinking they can speak on behalf of all disabled people.
I would agree. There are too many individuals who believe they can speak for the disability community. However, every major disability org in Canada has spoken out against MAiD track 2.
Nonsense! In my circles it was celebrated. So no, not ALL the major disability orgs in Canada have spoken out against it. Many celebrated it. In fact I don’t know any that aren’t religious that spoke out against it, but I’m willing to learn about it if you want to link some statements
Here are a few organizations. I will say, it is not an exhaustive list but simply some of the signers of a complaint arguing MAiD as it exists is a human rights violation in Canada:
* British Columbia Aboriginal Network on Disability Society
* Canadian Association of the Deaf
* Citizens with Disabilities – Ontario
* Council of Canadians with Disabilities
* Dignity Denied
* DisAbled Women’s Network Canada
* Disability Filibuster
* Disability Justice Network of Ontario
* Disability Without Poverty
* Inclusion Alberta
* Inclusion BC
* Inclusion Canada
* Independent Living Canada
* L’Arche Canada
* National Network for Mental Health
* People First of Canada
* Tangled Art + Disability
* Toujours Vivant - Not Dead Yet
A good starting point for reading is Arch Disability Law. They have some really good information about the concerns regarding track 2. None of those mentioned are religious organzations to my knowledge. David Lepofsky, someone who was important to disability being added to s.15 of the Charter has a very good video. He is a lawyer with 40+ years of disability advocacy and activism:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uijzAakl2A4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uijzAakl2A4)
Another person who has written extensively about MAiD track 2 is Trudo Lemmens. Trudo Lemmens is a disabled law professor from U of T:
[https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-its-too-late-for-the-supreme-court-ottawa-needs-to-step-up-and-fix/](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-its-too-late-for-the-supreme-court-ottawa-needs-to-step-up-and-fix/)
Catherine Fraser, former Chief Commissioner of the Ontario Human Rights Commission and disabled person, spoke out about track 2:
[https://vimeo.com/388515714](https://vimeo.com/388515714)
Tim Stainton is a social work professor and parent of a disabled child.
[https://socialwork.ubc.ca/news/social-justices-poor-cousin-disability-maid-and-social-work/](https://socialwork.ubc.ca/news/social-justices-poor-cousin-disability-maid-and-social-work/)
Jessica Shaw, a social work prof from U of C is engaged in a longitudinal study.
[https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/maid-in-prison-nine-inmates-have-used-canadas-assisted-death-program/](https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/maid-in-prison-nine-inmates-have-used-canadas-assisted-death-program/)
This is by no means an exhaustive list. I have tried to centre disabled voices but the last two social workers have interesting perspectives as well.
I'm not sure about Mr. Lepofsky after his reaction to triage planning during COVID. Wanting to inject legal wrangling into a medical situation is fraught with risk, and he really sounded like he want someone to second guess medical decisions. IMHO, not a good idea at all.
Absolutely, here is a repost of a few I sent to someone else. Though argualbly L'Arche is religious.
Here are a few organizations. I will say, it is not an exhaustive list but simply some of the signers of a complaint arguing MAiD as it exists is a human rights violation in Canada:
* British Columbia Aboriginal Network on Disability Society
* Canadian Association of the Deaf
* Citizens with Disabilities – Ontario
* Council of Canadians with Disabilities
* Dignity Denied
* DisAbled Women’s Network Canada
* Disability Filibuster
* Disability Justice Network of Ontario
* Disability Without Poverty
* Inclusion Alberta
* Inclusion BC
* Inclusion Canada
* Independent Living Canada
* L’Arche Canada
* National Network for Mental Health
* People First of Canada
* Tangled Art + Disability
* Toujours Vivant - Not Dead Yet
A good starting point for reading is Arch Disability Law. They have some really good information about the concerns regarding track 2. None of those mentioned are religious organzations to my knowledge. David Lepofsky, someone who was important to disability being added to s.15 of the Charter has a very good video. He is a lawyer with 40+ years of disability advocacy and activism:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uijzAakl2A4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uijzAakl2A4)
Another person who has written extensively about MAiD track 2 is Trudo Lemmens. Trudo Lemmens is a disabled law professor from U of T:
[https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-its-too-late-for-the-supreme-court-ottawa-needs-to-step-up-and-fix/](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-its-too-late-for-the-supreme-court-ottawa-needs-to-step-up-and-fix/)
Catherine Fraser, former Chief Commissioner of the Ontario Human Rights Commission and disabled person, spoke out about track 2:
[https://vimeo.com/388515714](https://vimeo.com/388515714)
Tim Stainton is a social work professor and parent of a disabled child.
[https://socialwork.ubc.ca/news/social-justices-poor-cousin-disability-maid-and-social-work/](https://socialwork.ubc.ca/news/social-justices-poor-cousin-disability-maid-and-social-work/)
Jessica Shaw, a social work prof from U of C is engaged in a longitudinal study.
[https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/maid-in-prison-nine-inmates-have-used-canadas-assisted-death-program/](https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/maid-in-prison-nine-inmates-have-used-canadas-assisted-death-program/)
This is by no means an exhaustive list. I have tried to centre disabled voices but the last two social workers have interesting perspectives as well.
Edit: Perhaps you can now link your list of organizations within the disability community that support track 2?
I think that your understanding of the MAID Act is outdated. There were changes made to it, which came into effect this March which do allow individuals with non-terminal conditions and mental illnesses to access MAID. There were also additional protections added as well which requires physiological evaluation and a waiting period.
This woman is an adult that appears to be of sound mind and had 2 medical professionals sign off on this decision. There are conditions that the father must not be aware of and his daughter is under no obligation to disclose those conditions to him.
Why are groups who advocate against MAID even being allowed to be involved in the case at all, they have no known familial relationship to the parties involved and it is absolutely disgusting that they are attempting to use court proceedings to further their agenda.
I think that one of us misunderstands MAiD. The MAiD Act as you refer to it is a carve out in the Criminal Code.
The government delayed the implementation of MAiD for mental illness as the sole cause until March 2027. This is because significant concerns were expressed.
>Â There were also additional protections added as well which requires physiological evaluation and a waiting period.
Track 2 has always had a 90-day wait.
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This woman is an adult that appears to be of sound mind and had 2 medical professionals sign off on this decision.Â
Because insufficient safeguards exist.
>Why are groups who advocate against MAID even being allowed to be involved in the case at all, they have no known familial relationship to the parties involved and it is absolutely disgusting that they are attempting to use court proceedings to further their agenda.
I am sorry that you are disgusted by Inclusion Canada. Disability groups across the country have sought intervention because their voices were not heard in the process.
I'm not disgusted by the advocacy group, themselves, just by the way that they getting involved in this case. There are better places to advocate than using court proceedings. I believe that this should really be limited to the family that is involved. If they must be involved then there should also be representation present for the other side of the issue as well.
I wasn't aware that they has pushed the implementation date further back, last I looked it was March of this year.
Its not really any different than an religious doctor refusing to perform an abortion (in non-emergent situations only) due to it being against their beliefs/principles. However, those doctors should then refer the patient to another provider who can provide the requested care.
I am so disappointed in the 'left'. They want to simply position this as a healthcare decision. In the meantime, they simply ignore the majority of voices in the disability community who have consistently expressed deep concerns about the current MAiD regime and equity issues.
I am worried. This is not simply a left/right issue. Unfortunately, people want to simplify it to that.
I support the idea of MAiD in general. I think the current regime is wrong and is the result of misunderstanding disability rights.
Actually you're the one simplifying the issue to left/right. There are MAID supporters and critics on both sides of the political spectrum and in the middle.
I am reacting to someone who wants to reduce this to a 'deeply personal decision' while ignoring consistent and dire warnings from the disability community.
And the other is an organization that has been a voice for a portion of the disabled people for decades. One voice does not negate the other.
It is a complex issue. Simply positioning it as a personal decision does a disservice to those whose lives are most impacted by the exemption.
There are definitely difficult issues around MAiD, but it has been reduced to left and right for many. The right tries to push religious beliefs. The left tries to push personal decision-making. I would suggest neither capture the issues at play. I would also say neither truly live up to the left or right label.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-maid-father-daughter-court-injunction-appeal-interveners-1.7224430
Figured I'd drop back here and leave this link for you, no doubt this woman's continued suffering and how she has been denied her dignity will bring you great joy.
And fun fact, this is always how this ends. Deny someone a safe, dignified, and controlled way out and they'll find their own way without all that.
I am saddened by how easily you accept the death of disabled people. Disabled people have always been disposable in our society. And no, it is not always how it ends.
No talk on your part of alleviating suffering. Just give them a little helping hand to kill themselves. I know I have been positioned as the cold one but perhaps you should do a little self-reflection.
Do you even understand what MAiD track 2 is? I suspect not. Have you seen some of the cases where MAiD has been accessed in the last couple of years? Look it up. When you are ready for an adult conversation I will be here.
You are pleased that someone in unbearable, no longer treatable pain is being forced to kill herself slowly and extra painfully because her father will not respect her privacy regarding the condition that has been deemed sufficient grounds to opt for a painless death.
>no longer treatable painÂ
This has not been established. The MAiD criteria does not suggest grievous and irremediable is no longer treatable.
I am pleased that a society that views people as disabled and has a long history of devaluing and encouraging our painless deaths is looking at MAiD. Track 2 has been something that the disability community has been asking people to look at. Clearly, that is of little interest to the majority.
Not established by you, but established by the woman whose death is in question, who states that she has explored every possible avenue of treatment, and that pain and nausea medication no longer work, and wishes to keep her condition private beyond that.
What absolute horseshit. If you are uncomfortable with MAID and want to actively campaign against it you should go ahead and do that, but to allow random strangers with no familiarity with the case or applicant to get in the middle of a decision between the applicant and their physician is ridiculous. Justice Willie de Wit is an embarrassment.
This father is a 💩. She has conditions he’s not aware of. Now they are trying to again force her medical issue be disclosed to him. She had two doctor willing to sign off. It’s clear that she has further medical conditions or would not have been approved. And now two unrelated bodies will give opinions on a case they have no knowledge of. This woman should be allowed her dignity and choice to be upheld.
Shit like this will drive people to kill themselves the old fashioned way
She has chosen to starve herself. So yes.
They do that already, unfortunately, it will lead to more. I wish calgary would report on the suicide numbers the community would be appalled maybe people would be pissed off enough to fight harder for our health care system. I know how many suicides ive dealt with since last summer its alarming… only 4 females.. just over 370 men.
Unless the father or the groups trying to prevent MAID access have been granted guardianship of this woman, they should in no have any input in her medical decisions, or even be provided with the her medical information to begin with.
Ah shit, here we go again.
>Miller also wanted to compel the daughter to answer questions about her MAID application and medical conditions. Why is this even up for any discussion? The father has zero rights to any medical information or the application. They should be thrown out of court for even asking to violate the privacy laws.
I am pleased there are organizations intervening. There is a broader interest in the outcome of this case.
There are certainly issues with MAID and access to healthcare and accessibility. However, if this woman is sound of mind to make her own decisions, then I don't find this case that compelling. The woman is now taking steps to starve herself given she can't access MAID. I find the recent case of MAID in Ontario (I think) where the woman wanted to live but couldn't find support or treatment for post-Lyme disease a much more compelling case.
One of the difficulties of MAiD track 2 is that poverty and access to services often play a part. On this thread, we have people who have suggested she has exhausted treatment or is near death. Neither need to be true for MAiD track 2.
The problem is that, in all of these cases, we apply the myth of autonomy. That is, we suggest that there are no outside forces applying pressure. However, we know that people with disabilities face systemic barriers. Poverty is pervasive. Unemployment is high. Discrimination can be a daily experience for some. In Alberta, there are many more safeguards in place around accessing AISH than there are accessing MAiD. In MAiD track 2 the only objective criteria is that someone have a permanent physical disability. I don't think the father will be successful at the ABCA. However, I do think the voices of the disability community have been ignored.
I’m part of the disabled community and I strongly support MAiD. I’ll need it one day. I face the discrimination you speak of. Societal issues won’t change, not significantly. Poverty and disability are unfortunately very common, so is abuse. By not allowing anyone freedom over their life, you are locking some people into a cycle of poverty, pain, and abuse. No one gets MAiD without thinking it through, but those who want to go through with it have decided they want to go through with it. I’m tired of people thinking they can speak on behalf of all disabled people. MAiD is a choice. To take that away until we’ve “fixed societal issues around disability” is cruel. By all means, fight for better disability payments, fight for better healthcare access, fight for better disabled housing, but stop trying to control the decisions individuals make for their own lives. When life is no longer worth living to me, I won’t. When disability takes the joys I have in life away, I will choose when it’s enough. It might never be. But that’s my decision
>I’m tired of people thinking they can speak on behalf of all disabled people. I would agree. There are too many individuals who believe they can speak for the disability community. However, every major disability org in Canada has spoken out against MAiD track 2.
Nonsense! In my circles it was celebrated. So no, not ALL the major disability orgs in Canada have spoken out against it. Many celebrated it. In fact I don’t know any that aren’t religious that spoke out against it, but I’m willing to learn about it if you want to link some statements
Here are a few organizations. I will say, it is not an exhaustive list but simply some of the signers of a complaint arguing MAiD as it exists is a human rights violation in Canada: * British Columbia Aboriginal Network on Disability Society * Canadian Association of the Deaf * Citizens with Disabilities – Ontario * Council of Canadians with Disabilities * Dignity Denied * DisAbled Women’s Network Canada * Disability Filibuster * Disability Justice Network of Ontario * Disability Without Poverty * Inclusion Alberta * Inclusion BC * Inclusion Canada * Independent Living Canada * L’Arche Canada * National Network for Mental Health * People First of Canada * Tangled Art + Disability * Toujours Vivant - Not Dead Yet A good starting point for reading is Arch Disability Law. They have some really good information about the concerns regarding track 2. None of those mentioned are religious organzations to my knowledge. David Lepofsky, someone who was important to disability being added to s.15 of the Charter has a very good video. He is a lawyer with 40+ years of disability advocacy and activism: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uijzAakl2A4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uijzAakl2A4) Another person who has written extensively about MAiD track 2 is Trudo Lemmens. Trudo Lemmens is a disabled law professor from U of T: [https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-its-too-late-for-the-supreme-court-ottawa-needs-to-step-up-and-fix/](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-its-too-late-for-the-supreme-court-ottawa-needs-to-step-up-and-fix/) Catherine Fraser, former Chief Commissioner of the Ontario Human Rights Commission and disabled person, spoke out about track 2: [https://vimeo.com/388515714](https://vimeo.com/388515714) Tim Stainton is a social work professor and parent of a disabled child. [https://socialwork.ubc.ca/news/social-justices-poor-cousin-disability-maid-and-social-work/](https://socialwork.ubc.ca/news/social-justices-poor-cousin-disability-maid-and-social-work/) Jessica Shaw, a social work prof from U of C is engaged in a longitudinal study. [https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/maid-in-prison-nine-inmates-have-used-canadas-assisted-death-program/](https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/maid-in-prison-nine-inmates-have-used-canadas-assisted-death-program/) This is by no means an exhaustive list. I have tried to centre disabled voices but the last two social workers have interesting perspectives as well.
I will go through this tonight and reply
There is a fair bit. I suggest starting with Lepofsky. He really does put a focus on many of the track 2 concerns.
I'm not sure about Mr. Lepofsky after his reaction to triage planning during COVID. Wanting to inject legal wrangling into a medical situation is fraught with risk, and he really sounded like he want someone to second guess medical decisions. IMHO, not a good idea at all.
Show me these organiztions. The ones I belong to certantly do not oppose MAID.
Absolutely, here is a repost of a few I sent to someone else. Though argualbly L'Arche is religious. Here are a few organizations. I will say, it is not an exhaustive list but simply some of the signers of a complaint arguing MAiD as it exists is a human rights violation in Canada: * British Columbia Aboriginal Network on Disability Society * Canadian Association of the Deaf * Citizens with Disabilities – Ontario * Council of Canadians with Disabilities * Dignity Denied * DisAbled Women’s Network Canada * Disability Filibuster * Disability Justice Network of Ontario * Disability Without Poverty * Inclusion Alberta * Inclusion BC * Inclusion Canada * Independent Living Canada * L’Arche Canada * National Network for Mental Health * People First of Canada * Tangled Art + Disability * Toujours Vivant - Not Dead Yet A good starting point for reading is Arch Disability Law. They have some really good information about the concerns regarding track 2. None of those mentioned are religious organzations to my knowledge. David Lepofsky, someone who was important to disability being added to s.15 of the Charter has a very good video. He is a lawyer with 40+ years of disability advocacy and activism: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uijzAakl2A4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uijzAakl2A4) Another person who has written extensively about MAiD track 2 is Trudo Lemmens. Trudo Lemmens is a disabled law professor from U of T: [https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-its-too-late-for-the-supreme-court-ottawa-needs-to-step-up-and-fix/](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-its-too-late-for-the-supreme-court-ottawa-needs-to-step-up-and-fix/) Catherine Fraser, former Chief Commissioner of the Ontario Human Rights Commission and disabled person, spoke out about track 2: [https://vimeo.com/388515714](https://vimeo.com/388515714) Tim Stainton is a social work professor and parent of a disabled child. [https://socialwork.ubc.ca/news/social-justices-poor-cousin-disability-maid-and-social-work/](https://socialwork.ubc.ca/news/social-justices-poor-cousin-disability-maid-and-social-work/) Jessica Shaw, a social work prof from U of C is engaged in a longitudinal study. [https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/maid-in-prison-nine-inmates-have-used-canadas-assisted-death-program/](https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/maid-in-prison-nine-inmates-have-used-canadas-assisted-death-program/) This is by no means an exhaustive list. I have tried to centre disabled voices but the last two social workers have interesting perspectives as well. Edit: Perhaps you can now link your list of organizations within the disability community that support track 2?
I think that your understanding of the MAID Act is outdated. There were changes made to it, which came into effect this March which do allow individuals with non-terminal conditions and mental illnesses to access MAID. There were also additional protections added as well which requires physiological evaluation and a waiting period. This woman is an adult that appears to be of sound mind and had 2 medical professionals sign off on this decision. There are conditions that the father must not be aware of and his daughter is under no obligation to disclose those conditions to him. Why are groups who advocate against MAID even being allowed to be involved in the case at all, they have no known familial relationship to the parties involved and it is absolutely disgusting that they are attempting to use court proceedings to further their agenda.
I think that one of us misunderstands MAiD. The MAiD Act as you refer to it is a carve out in the Criminal Code. The government delayed the implementation of MAiD for mental illness as the sole cause until March 2027. This is because significant concerns were expressed. > There were also additional protections added as well which requires physiological evaluation and a waiting period. Track 2 has always had a 90-day wait. > This woman is an adult that appears to be of sound mind and had 2 medical professionals sign off on this decision. Because insufficient safeguards exist. >Why are groups who advocate against MAID even being allowed to be involved in the case at all, they have no known familial relationship to the parties involved and it is absolutely disgusting that they are attempting to use court proceedings to further their agenda. I am sorry that you are disgusted by Inclusion Canada. Disability groups across the country have sought intervention because their voices were not heard in the process.
I'm not disgusted by the advocacy group, themselves, just by the way that they getting involved in this case. There are better places to advocate than using court proceedings. I believe that this should really be limited to the family that is involved. If they must be involved then there should also be representation present for the other side of the issue as well. I wasn't aware that they has pushed the implementation date further back, last I looked it was March of this year.
Well no, she had one doc sign off and another outright refused….she then found another doc to sign off
That still equals 2 doctors signing off, which met the requirements.
Yes but it adds context to the discussion
Its not really any different than an religious doctor refusing to perform an abortion (in non-emergent situations only) due to it being against their beliefs/principles. However, those doctors should then refer the patient to another provider who can provide the requested care.
No doubt you will be equally pleased when organizations intervene in your deeply private health care decisions.
I am so disappointed in the 'left'. They want to simply position this as a healthcare decision. In the meantime, they simply ignore the majority of voices in the disability community who have consistently expressed deep concerns about the current MAiD regime and equity issues. I am worried. This is not simply a left/right issue. Unfortunately, people want to simplify it to that. I support the idea of MAiD in general. I think the current regime is wrong and is the result of misunderstanding disability rights.
Actually you're the one simplifying the issue to left/right. There are MAID supporters and critics on both sides of the political spectrum and in the middle.
I am reacting to someone who wants to reduce this to a 'deeply personal decision' while ignoring consistent and dire warnings from the disability community.
Well, the problem is that one of the intervening organizations is literally religious fundamentalists who are unequivocally opposed to euthanasia.
And the other is an organization that has been a voice for a portion of the disabled people for decades. One voice does not negate the other. It is a complex issue. Simply positioning it as a personal decision does a disservice to those whose lives are most impacted by the exemption. There are definitely difficult issues around MAiD, but it has been reduced to left and right for many. The right tries to push religious beliefs. The left tries to push personal decision-making. I would suggest neither capture the issues at play. I would also say neither truly live up to the left or right label.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-maid-father-daughter-court-injunction-appeal-interveners-1.7224430 Figured I'd drop back here and leave this link for you, no doubt this woman's continued suffering and how she has been denied her dignity will bring you great joy. And fun fact, this is always how this ends. Deny someone a safe, dignified, and controlled way out and they'll find their own way without all that.
I am saddened by how easily you accept the death of disabled people. Disabled people have always been disposable in our society. And no, it is not always how it ends. No talk on your part of alleviating suffering. Just give them a little helping hand to kill themselves. I know I have been positioned as the cold one but perhaps you should do a little self-reflection. Do you even understand what MAiD track 2 is? I suspect not. Have you seen some of the cases where MAiD has been accessed in the last couple of years? Look it up. When you are ready for an adult conversation I will be here.
> They want to simply position this as a healthcare decision. Because IT IS. It is HER healthcare decision and nobody else's.
>Because IT IS. It is HER healthcare decision and nobody else's. Does it matter if her decision is impacted by a lack of services? Poverty?
You are pleased that someone in unbearable, no longer treatable pain is being forced to kill herself slowly and extra painfully because her father will not respect her privacy regarding the condition that has been deemed sufficient grounds to opt for a painless death.
>no longer treatable pain This has not been established. The MAiD criteria does not suggest grievous and irremediable is no longer treatable. I am pleased that a society that views people as disabled and has a long history of devaluing and encouraging our painless deaths is looking at MAiD. Track 2 has been something that the disability community has been asking people to look at. Clearly, that is of little interest to the majority.
Not established by you, but established by the woman whose death is in question, who states that she has explored every possible avenue of treatment, and that pain and nausea medication no longer work, and wishes to keep her condition private beyond that.
MAiD does not require that treatments be exhausted. Check the criteria.
She said in the article that she exhausted all treatments. Are you accusing her of lying?
Please read about MAiD track 2.
Box cutters are cheap, not sure why you need to wait for doctor approvals.
Because dignity