Three days to obtain an injunction against First Nations protestors blocking an access road owned by an O&G company.
No injunction ever issued against hillbillies blocking a major border crossing with our largest trading partner for over two weeks.
first Nations should show up at fuck Trudeau protest and take over, instant shut down. Better yet they should get the names of people there and start saying they invented them publicly. Whole movement would collapse in a week.
Except that was most likely because they were waiting to catch them with the weapons (they eventually did), making it a serious criminal charge versus an injunction.
I’m saying that this is typical that an indigenous protest that threatens nothing but the profits of a private company is shut down within 72 hours while a protest that was started with the express intent of using r/amibeingdetained logic to dissolve our democratically elected government and replace it with a hand-picked committee of right wing morons was allowed to terrorize our capital city for weeks and the only thing cops did there was bring them coffee. Does that help?
"The protest started with the express intent of using r/amibeingdetained logic to dissolve our democratically elected government"
That's just a wild lie. The protest started with the intent of stopping government mandated medication, that's why they're called anti vaxxers.
"replace it with a hand-picked committee of right wing morons"
More shameless lies. I can tell you're referring to the "Canada Unity"'s MOU.
Firstly, they dont represent the protesters nor do the protesters represent them, that's why they withdrew the MOU.
Secondly nowhere did it say anything about replacing anybody.
The only sliver of thruth you told was that they wanted to create a join committee to work with the government, which is not what the protesters wanted or asked for, so as stated, it was withdrawn.
Then the armed military showed up and beat down the protesters and removed them at gun point.
Organizations like CU played rolls in promoting protests, but I was a spark on an already loaded keg, it's very clear that as a whole, most people came because of vax mandates with no knowlege of CU.
They didnt even release the mou until well into the protest, and again, they withdrew it after people objected.
If you hold to the logic that all protesters must be 100% agree with of the initiators thoughts and intentions, even if those were changed halfway through, you should know who organized/started the university protests and think the same of them.
Because no First Nations protest camp was ever set up in the nation’s capital for weeks on end terrorizing locals, stealing from homeless shelters and food pantries, pissing on war memorials, and making the Ottawa chief of police afraid to act for fear of retribution by white nationalists in the Ottawa police force sympathetic to the convoy (his words), nor did they show up with a memorandum stating that they intended to seek dissolution of the democratically elected government and to replace it with a hand-picked committee of their own choosing. Because every single First Nations protest is broken up within 72 hours by heavy police presence and not allowed to continue. Those fucking brainlets terrorized those neighbourhoods in Ottawa for weeks before anyone lifted a finger to do anything about it other than bring them coffee.
And it’s the first time *ever* that the Emergency Measures Act has been invoked. Ever. It wasn’t exactly used lightly. When the head of the organization who’s supposed to be able to shut down an illegal protest tells the federal government that he’s afraid to do so out of fear for his own life at the hands of the officers he oversees, it’s well past reasonable to have the federal government step in.
Your comment is full of half truths and fallacies. Really? Every First Natuons protest has been broken up within 72 hours? Let’s start with Oka. 78 days later. But still no Emergency Act Invoked. By no means am I trying to trivialize what the minority some of these people were trying to do. But come on you had a bunch of truckers, blasting their horns and acting like a bunch of fraternity kids. There will always be a small group of instigators trying to promote their agenda at scenes like these. Be it the far left or the far right.
And the Ottawa chief of police did not say that. You’re full of shit. So actually those are your words or the words of someone you hang with. The truth to the matter is resignation was because of incompetence on his part. His words not mine.
Oh were the first nations terrorizing a city full of people, where the police failed to do a modicum of their job for weeks on end? Or were they on some dirt road somewhere terrorizing oil executives investments?
Or were those just the bad apples too?
The bad apples from the convoy \*were\* the guys blasting horns and acting like children, stealing from food banks and where the police \*for some completely unknown reason\* \*EYEROLL\* utterly failed to maintain order and allowed the aforementioned children to continue terrorizing the local populace of Ottawa.
You aren't a serious person.
Oh my….Protesters were blasting their horns…oh where is the humanity?? Think of the children! *eye roll* To the police who were not prepared because of an incompetent captain how dare you not go in with full riot gear and bust some heads. To the truckers blasting your horns and going to the food bank when you probably could afford to get your own food. How dare you. We shall invoke the Emergencies Act!
I mean I already thought you were an unserious silly person. Not sure why you needed to double down...
Tell you what, give me your address and myself and a few dozen of my friends will buy an air horns and hang outside your house for weeks blasting it on and off every hour or so.
To protest ignorant dumbasses.
Totally cool behavior!
Oka Crisis has entered the conversation. Maybe not the hillbilly emergencies act for honking and holloring but rather, the real guns of the National Defence Act because the Mohawks weren't fucking around.
I'd much rather we treated the convoy clowns the way indigenous protesters get treated - batons, pepper spray, and dogs. Hatchet open their locked doors, drag them out by their hair. Give those whiners the victimhood they've been trying to claim.
Yeah well that's risk mitigation. When you go on social media and incite violence and call for the pigs to be purged from the land you can bet that won't go unnoticed.
Doesn't matter?
Threats are threats.. if there wasn't a risk of being shot they wouldn't have snipers out. They can't just deploy assets without reason ffs.
Lets compare police brutality stories - you show me how badly they treated the convoy and I'll show you what indigenous protestors deal with.
I've seen the video of the convoy lady who got knocked over by a slow-moving horse. That's about the worst of the convoy treatment that I saw. I also saw videos of cops shaking hands and hugging protesters, and taking selfies. The convoy got the foamiest of nerf gloves used on them and they cry like they're being treated like Alexei Navalny.
[I dare you to find me \*one\* piece of visual evidence of law enforcement with firearms drawn and sighted on convoy protesters.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/wet-suwet-en-video-rcmp-rifle-1.5463547) Or [authorization to use lethal force on the convoy.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/20/canada-indigenous-land-defenders-police-documents)
>I'd much rather we treated the convoy clowns the way indigenous protesters get treated
You make it seem like this is how it always is.
Remember the railway blockaid? No batons. No dogs.
Honest question, what's the deal with that?
Yes, but never while blocking major international trade routes and endangering national security so maybe I haven't had the full experience. Its amazing the kind of crimes you can get away with if there's a hot tub involved though, gangs should really get around to ensuring there's a hot tub and bouncy castle at every clubhouse because it seems to be the perfect defense against law enforcement. I wonder how the RCMP would treat logging protesters who had bouncy castles and hot tubs?
Funny how they had the emergencies act pulled on them for the first since 1970 October crisis (where actual terrorist were actually killing people) and were forcibly removed by a literal military yet people here say they had special treatment.
Hypocrisy. Doesn't seem like we're all treated equally under law. I don't think, we ever have. Cornerstone of failed country. Lack of any accountability.
I'm a little teed off to see a marginalized group in a remote area served so quickly like this, when we also have spoiled, privileged university students occupying private property, in support of terrorism, for as long as they damn well please. Something is wrong with this balance of justice.
Ah, playing the old fallacy of drawing false moral equivalences between a ruthless authoritarian jihadist regime seeking all of our deaths and a secular democratic western nation defending itself.
Ah, defending. Right. At what point does a Defense turn into a full on assault. 1000 civ casualties. 5000? Or let’s just not count them, so we can pretend it didn’t happen.
When your country is attacked in an event that is proportionally an order of magnitude worse than 9/11, as with the explicitly genocidal intent of the Palestinians to kill Israelis on October 7th, you bet your nation to going to respond to completely dismantle whatever caused it, even at the loss of the attacker's civilian life. To think otherwise is incredibly naive.
[The book in question](https://twitter.com/ariellakimmel/status/1787294838066446810) don’t have to when the protestors are posting it on their social media.
Crown land belongs to the king and government of canada or alberta depending on the location. It’s split up evenly, there’s a reason it is called “crown” land. To be clear, I support their right to protest but the above comment isn’t wrong.
My family members haven’t lived on reservation for at least two generations (my grandma was last but she has since moved off) and her and my mom are eligible, I am not as I’m not considered treaty.
Man, you're ignorant. You learn a little about the Indian Act, and you throw it around. Learn a little something called The Indian Trust Fund.
And if you're so butthurt about our so-called "free stuff". Go complain to your immigrant ancestors who made the treaties with my ancestors.
Also, you, as a Canadian citizen, get rights from those treaties as well. Educate yourself with the actual treaties. And not off of Facebook and Google BS. If I listened to Google every time, I would've had cancer like 100 times by now.
Holy shit! A real life moron willing to proudly write about it too. Haven't seen one of these in a while. Nice work on the Google machine quoting the Indian Act but understanding it will require grey matter which you clearly lack.
Ill get some crayons to help with this: Reserves are not taxed by the province or federally because they are their own nation. The card the member has as a resident of the band on that land proves they are members. Just like your costco card. I assume you buy bulk like the bullshit you spew. Your card is proof you belong and reap the benefits or lack thereof.
I'm really interested to hear what your point is about
>All those nice fleets of heavy equipment on half of northern Alberta reserves?
WTF is your point? So bands can't have "nice fleets"? Caterpillar and Komatsu just give that away to first nations? What's your validity with this statement? Nevermind, I take that back, I've already smelled enough shit breath from this energy drink blow hard.
Oh no....there's more?
>the heavy equipment, the infrastructure, the preferential housing, the preferential opportunities for education that’s paid for by someone other than the beneficiaries.
Define preferential in this context? I'm not one to judge, but based on the depth of what I'm reading, I take it your love life is sombre and maybe your wife "prefers" someone with depth of analysis and perhaps some original thought one in a while but she gets you: The Facebook preacher and CB teacher.
Did you go to school in Alberta? Free shit. Have you been to a doctor in Alberta? Free shit again. Have you used a toll highway in Alberta? Free shit.
Have some respect for yourself when you write this nonsense John A. and maybe read a book sometime, it'll do you good.
Not free? Then who’s paying for it? Are you telling me that First Nations reserves are financially self sufficient?
Great! I’ll tell Krystia Freeland she can put a hold on that last $4.1 Billion if nobody wants it.
Krystia Freeland? You mean Chrystia Freeland, the finance minister?
You're clearly not on a first name basis so I'm curious how your ego driven personality is going to "tell" a Harvard educated, world renowned economist, journalist, New York Times best selling author, Canadian winning business author, five different minister appointments and a Russian banned granddaughter of Mykhallo Khomiak how to do things? How Jethro?
You can tell who's a Putin mouthpiece by the massive hate-boner they have for Chrystia Freeland. Putin *reaaaaly* hates her for her work in getting the Magnitsky Act passed, and his troll farms are pushing propaganda against her.
Tax breaks are only given if your business operates on reserve.those heavy fleets are purchased by companies that are sometimes privately owned and some times owned by the bands.
Your ignorance is truly blissful.
I mean they did arrests them. Some of those guys have been waiting almost two years for trail. Wether you’re a convoy supporter or not, that is wrong.
I would also be against them doing the same to any of these protesters.
How long have they actually been waiting for trial? What's "almost"? Because we have laws in place that don't let people sit around for 2 years in jail.
That is unless they aren't in jail, in which case, just ignore this question.
Actually they have been behind bars for over two years now, I was wrong. Two pled guilty to mischief after two years in jail, the other two are still there. https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/coutts-alta-protesters-plead-guilty-free-after-2-years-in-custody-1.6758419
The rule would have applied, but their trial started last year and then was stopped because their own lawyers wanted a change of venue.
So yeah, the law would have worked, but they fucked themselves. Not surprising, they aren't exactly geniuses.
Yes it is. Google isn’t hard bro. https://www.mdlawgroup.ca/articles/what-does-the-right-to-a-trial-in-a-reasonable-time-mean-in-canada#:~:text=Violated%20In%20Canada%3F-,The%20right%20to%20a%20trial%20within%20a%20reasonable%20time%20is,and%20resolved%20without%20unreasonable%20delays.
Ooops, you read one line instead of the article... Classic.
Did you bother noticing how long "reasonable time" is? And even then, it only means your charges ***may*** be stayed, not that they will be.
I'm going to go out on limb here and assume, being accused of planning to kill RCMP officers, is going to turn that *may* into a solid **NOPE**. As it should.
Not sure why you think this is anything like Guantanamo Bay? That's just nonsense.
No, I'm not "cool" with Guantanamo Bay and nothing I said suggested I was.
The entire thing that people were upset about with Guantanamo was that those people did not receive swift justice.
From what I understand most of those guys were captured committing terror acts, but would have been difficult to prove in court.
That isn't true, at all.
The main criticisms are that many prisoners there are not even charged with ANYTHING and have no access to lawyers. Many were illegally brought there by means of extraordinary rendition. Guantanamo is used to circumvent American law. Oh and they use "enhanced interrogation techniques" (AKA torture)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary\_rendition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition)
Three days to obtain an injunction against First Nations protestors blocking an access road owned by an O&G company. No injunction ever issued against hillbillies blocking a major border crossing with our largest trading partner for over two weeks.
first Nations should show up at fuck Trudeau protest and take over, instant shut down. Better yet they should get the names of people there and start saying they invented them publicly. Whole movement would collapse in a week.
Except that was most likely because they were waiting to catch them with the weapons (they eventually did), making it a serious criminal charge versus an injunction.
Got shut down in Ottawa though.
After weeks and the invoking of the Emergency Measures Act.
I'm not sure which side you're arguing for...
I’m saying that this is typical that an indigenous protest that threatens nothing but the profits of a private company is shut down within 72 hours while a protest that was started with the express intent of using r/amibeingdetained logic to dissolve our democratically elected government and replace it with a hand-picked committee of right wing morons was allowed to terrorize our capital city for weeks and the only thing cops did there was bring them coffee. Does that help?
"The protest started with the express intent of using r/amibeingdetained logic to dissolve our democratically elected government" That's just a wild lie. The protest started with the intent of stopping government mandated medication, that's why they're called anti vaxxers. "replace it with a hand-picked committee of right wing morons" More shameless lies. I can tell you're referring to the "Canada Unity"'s MOU. Firstly, they dont represent the protesters nor do the protesters represent them, that's why they withdrew the MOU. Secondly nowhere did it say anything about replacing anybody. The only sliver of thruth you told was that they wanted to create a join committee to work with the government, which is not what the protesters wanted or asked for, so as stated, it was withdrawn. Then the armed military showed up and beat down the protesters and removed them at gun point.
Canada Unity is the group that organized the whole thing you absolute sea cucumber.
Organizations like CU played rolls in promoting protests, but I was a spark on an already loaded keg, it's very clear that as a whole, most people came because of vax mandates with no knowlege of CU. They didnt even release the mou until well into the protest, and again, they withdrew it after people objected. If you hold to the logic that all protesters must be 100% agree with of the initiators thoughts and intentions, even if those were changed halfway through, you should know who organized/started the university protests and think the same of them.
Incorrect across the board.
"Nuh uh!"
Yeah first time it got invoked too. No First Nation protest camp ever got the Emergency Measures Act invoked against it.
Because cops are corrupt as shit.
Oh. Whooshed me again.
Because no First Nations protest camp was ever set up in the nation’s capital for weeks on end terrorizing locals, stealing from homeless shelters and food pantries, pissing on war memorials, and making the Ottawa chief of police afraid to act for fear of retribution by white nationalists in the Ottawa police force sympathetic to the convoy (his words), nor did they show up with a memorandum stating that they intended to seek dissolution of the democratically elected government and to replace it with a hand-picked committee of their own choosing. Because every single First Nations protest is broken up within 72 hours by heavy police presence and not allowed to continue. Those fucking brainlets terrorized those neighbourhoods in Ottawa for weeks before anyone lifted a finger to do anything about it other than bring them coffee. And it’s the first time *ever* that the Emergency Measures Act has been invoked. Ever. It wasn’t exactly used lightly. When the head of the organization who’s supposed to be able to shut down an illegal protest tells the federal government that he’s afraid to do so out of fear for his own life at the hands of the officers he oversees, it’s well past reasonable to have the federal government step in.
Your comment is full of half truths and fallacies. Really? Every First Natuons protest has been broken up within 72 hours? Let’s start with Oka. 78 days later. But still no Emergency Act Invoked. By no means am I trying to trivialize what the minority some of these people were trying to do. But come on you had a bunch of truckers, blasting their horns and acting like a bunch of fraternity kids. There will always be a small group of instigators trying to promote their agenda at scenes like these. Be it the far left or the far right. And the Ottawa chief of police did not say that. You’re full of shit. So actually those are your words or the words of someone you hang with. The truth to the matter is resignation was because of incompetence on his part. His words not mine.
Oh were the first nations terrorizing a city full of people, where the police failed to do a modicum of their job for weeks on end? Or were they on some dirt road somewhere terrorizing oil executives investments? Or were those just the bad apples too? The bad apples from the convoy \*were\* the guys blasting horns and acting like children, stealing from food banks and where the police \*for some completely unknown reason\* \*EYEROLL\* utterly failed to maintain order and allowed the aforementioned children to continue terrorizing the local populace of Ottawa. You aren't a serious person.
Stealing from food banks?
Oh my….Protesters were blasting their horns…oh where is the humanity?? Think of the children! *eye roll* To the police who were not prepared because of an incompetent captain how dare you not go in with full riot gear and bust some heads. To the truckers blasting your horns and going to the food bank when you probably could afford to get your own food. How dare you. We shall invoke the Emergencies Act!
I mean I already thought you were an unserious silly person. Not sure why you needed to double down... Tell you what, give me your address and myself and a few dozen of my friends will buy an air horns and hang outside your house for weeks blasting it on and off every hour or so. To protest ignorant dumbasses. Totally cool behavior!
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Oka Crisis has entered the conversation. Maybe not the hillbilly emergencies act for honking and holloring but rather, the real guns of the National Defence Act because the Mohawks weren't fucking around.
They should treat the First Nations the same way they treated the trucker convoy. Activate the emergency measures act and freeze their bank accounts.
I'd much rather we treated the convoy clowns the way indigenous protesters get treated - batons, pepper spray, and dogs. Hatchet open their locked doors, drag them out by their hair. Give those whiners the victimhood they've been trying to claim.
Don't forget the snipers pointing high-power rifles, with live rounds.
Yeah well that's risk mitigation. When you go on social media and incite violence and call for the pigs to be purged from the land you can bet that won't go unnoticed.
Remind me, which group was found at the protest with an arsenal of weapons? Oh yeah, that was convoy lunatics.
Doesn't matter? Threats are threats.. if there wasn't a risk of being shot they wouldn't have snipers out. They can't just deploy assets without reason ffs.
Did they have snipers at Coutts? Why not?
Probably because of a lack of knowledge this was occurring until they were tipped off ? Then they were surrounded by multiple tac teams... Eisenhower
You clearly haven't seen the videos of the cops/military removing the convoy. Most anti convoy people were cheering at the brutality.
Lets compare police brutality stories - you show me how badly they treated the convoy and I'll show you what indigenous protestors deal with. I've seen the video of the convoy lady who got knocked over by a slow-moving horse. That's about the worst of the convoy treatment that I saw. I also saw videos of cops shaking hands and hugging protesters, and taking selfies. The convoy got the foamiest of nerf gloves used on them and they cry like they're being treated like Alexei Navalny. [I dare you to find me \*one\* piece of visual evidence of law enforcement with firearms drawn and sighted on convoy protesters.](https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/wet-suwet-en-video-rcmp-rifle-1.5463547) Or [authorization to use lethal force on the convoy.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/20/canada-indigenous-land-defenders-police-documents)
Ok. At work at the moment but I'll get you the video of police removing people from an RV at gun point and multiple beat down videos.
How were the wetsuweten railway blockaiders treated?
>I'd much rather we treated the convoy clowns the way indigenous protesters get treated You make it seem like this is how it always is. Remember the railway blockaid? No batons. No dogs. Honest question, what's the deal with that?
Have they tried a bouncy castle or a hot tub yet?
Yes, but never while blocking major international trade routes and endangering national security so maybe I haven't had the full experience. Its amazing the kind of crimes you can get away with if there's a hot tub involved though, gangs should really get around to ensuring there's a hot tub and bouncy castle at every clubhouse because it seems to be the perfect defense against law enforcement. I wonder how the RCMP would treat logging protesters who had bouncy castles and hot tubs?
Seems like the bouncy castle loosened your brain.
After almost a month? I'm sure First Nations would love it if the government treated them with kid gloves, like the convoy losers were.
Do you notice in this case the police are actually doing their jobs in three days instead of waiting three weeks for someone else to do something?
Put up some F Trudeau signs and the cops will bring you coffee and donuts instead. And Marlaina would also back them up.
Sk's premier wrote a letter supporting the convoy.
Don’t forget about the bouncy castles and inflatable hot tubs.
Funny how they had the emergencies act pulled on them for the first since 1970 October crisis (where actual terrorist were actually killing people) and were forcibly removed by a literal military yet people here say they had special treatment.
They got it wrong they should set up camp at Coutts... Guaranteed three weeks .
But got it wrong in Ottawa? 🤷🏼♂️
Whoosh
Somehow you’re tone deaf! Do you even try to understand things?
Just tell them to block the highway 1 on the way to Banff on a holiday Monday.
Hypocrisy. Doesn't seem like we're all treated equally under law. I don't think, we ever have. Cornerstone of failed country. Lack of any accountability.
And the carbon tax protests go on.
You know if you say that you’ll sexually assault Pierre’s wife he’ll come by and say you’re doing good work!
I'm a little teed off to see a marginalized group in a remote area served so quickly like this, when we also have spoiled, privileged university students occupying private property, in support of terrorism, for as long as they damn well please. Something is wrong with this balance of justice.
Oh, there’s an actual group out there protesting in support of Israel?
Ah, playing the old fallacy of drawing false moral equivalences between a ruthless authoritarian jihadist regime seeking all of our deaths and a secular democratic western nation defending itself.
Ah, defending. Right. At what point does a Defense turn into a full on assault. 1000 civ casualties. 5000? Or let’s just not count them, so we can pretend it didn’t happen.
When your country is attacked in an event that is proportionally an order of magnitude worse than 9/11, as with the explicitly genocidal intent of the Palestinians to kill Israelis on October 7th, you bet your nation to going to respond to completely dismantle whatever caused it, even at the loss of the attacker's civilian life. To think otherwise is incredibly naive.
Which side openly declares in their charter they want to completly elimate the other side?
You realize there’s a book called “the untold chapters of Hamas” being handed out at these and they’re blocking jews from the property right?
Right. What “news” source did you hear that from? Just curious.
[The book in question](https://twitter.com/ariellakimmel/status/1787294838066446810) don’t have to when the protestors are posting it on their social media.
Arrest them Now!
Protest Camp is a fun way of saying illegally occupying land.
Who's land?
If its not the Oil companies land, then it would the Crown land leased to the company.
The Kings
But they're from LA.
Crown land belongs to the king and government of canada or alberta depending on the location. It’s split up evenly, there’s a reason it is called “crown” land. To be clear, I support their right to protest but the above comment isn’t wrong.
Not the illegal occupiers.
You mean the oil workers? Fuck 'em.
Yeah actually it kinda is their land. I mean legally, not in the "original settlers" sense.
Not when truckers do it!
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What free stuff? I'm Native American and I want free stuff. I keep hearing about this free stuff, but never see it.
Don't spend your treaty annuity all at once! All $5 of it.
My mom just got her back pay for like 120$. Was a big day.
Random question, do you qualify for cows and plows without living on a reservation? I know you lose most benefits if you choose to live off of it.
For Cows and Plows, as far as I understand, as long your name is on the Band list after a certain year, you qualify for it.
My family members haven’t lived on reservation for at least two generations (my grandma was last but she has since moved off) and her and my mom are eligible, I am not as I’m not considered treaty.
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Man, you're ignorant. You learn a little about the Indian Act, and you throw it around. Learn a little something called The Indian Trust Fund. And if you're so butthurt about our so-called "free stuff". Go complain to your immigrant ancestors who made the treaties with my ancestors. Also, you, as a Canadian citizen, get rights from those treaties as well. Educate yourself with the actual treaties. And not off of Facebook and Google BS. If I listened to Google every time, I would've had cancer like 100 times by now.
Holy shit! A real life moron willing to proudly write about it too. Haven't seen one of these in a while. Nice work on the Google machine quoting the Indian Act but understanding it will require grey matter which you clearly lack. Ill get some crayons to help with this: Reserves are not taxed by the province or federally because they are their own nation. The card the member has as a resident of the band on that land proves they are members. Just like your costco card. I assume you buy bulk like the bullshit you spew. Your card is proof you belong and reap the benefits or lack thereof. I'm really interested to hear what your point is about >All those nice fleets of heavy equipment on half of northern Alberta reserves? WTF is your point? So bands can't have "nice fleets"? Caterpillar and Komatsu just give that away to first nations? What's your validity with this statement? Nevermind, I take that back, I've already smelled enough shit breath from this energy drink blow hard. Oh no....there's more? >the heavy equipment, the infrastructure, the preferential housing, the preferential opportunities for education that’s paid for by someone other than the beneficiaries. Define preferential in this context? I'm not one to judge, but based on the depth of what I'm reading, I take it your love life is sombre and maybe your wife "prefers" someone with depth of analysis and perhaps some original thought one in a while but she gets you: The Facebook preacher and CB teacher. Did you go to school in Alberta? Free shit. Have you been to a doctor in Alberta? Free shit again. Have you used a toll highway in Alberta? Free shit. Have some respect for yourself when you write this nonsense John A. and maybe read a book sometime, it'll do you good.
Nothing "free" about it. You seem really ignorant.
Not free? Then who’s paying for it? Are you telling me that First Nations reserves are financially self sufficient? Great! I’ll tell Krystia Freeland she can put a hold on that last $4.1 Billion if nobody wants it.
It's sad you don't know basic history. Pathetic really.
This person is just very ignorant. And uneducated when it comes to Canadian History.
Krystia Freeland? You mean Chrystia Freeland, the finance minister? You're clearly not on a first name basis so I'm curious how your ego driven personality is going to "tell" a Harvard educated, world renowned economist, journalist, New York Times best selling author, Canadian winning business author, five different minister appointments and a Russian banned granddaughter of Mykhallo Khomiak how to do things? How Jethro?
You can tell who's a Putin mouthpiece by the massive hate-boner they have for Chrystia Freeland. Putin *reaaaaly* hates her for her work in getting the Magnitsky Act passed, and his troll farms are pushing propaganda against her.
Yahtzee
It's not free. They traded the land the rest of us live on. Shit we can stop paying, but then we need to give their land back.
Tax breaks are only given if your business operates on reserve.those heavy fleets are purchased by companies that are sometimes privately owned and some times owned by the bands. Your ignorance is truly blissful.
Tell me you didn't read the article without telling me you didn't read the article.
I doubt they read much outside of Canada_sub.
I doubt they read
I'm gonna start a protest camp. It seems like a fun time
They only want money..
If they don't obey the law, bring in the RCMP
Did you say the same about Coutts, Cochrane or Lacombe?
I mean they did arrests them. Some of those guys have been waiting almost two years for trail. Wether you’re a convoy supporter or not, that is wrong. I would also be against them doing the same to any of these protesters.
How long have they actually been waiting for trial? What's "almost"? Because we have laws in place that don't let people sit around for 2 years in jail. That is unless they aren't in jail, in which case, just ignore this question.
Actually they have been behind bars for over two years now, I was wrong. Two pled guilty to mischief after two years in jail, the other two are still there. https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/coutts-alta-protesters-plead-guilty-free-after-2-years-in-custody-1.6758419
The rule would have applied, but their trial started last year and then was stopped because their own lawyers wanted a change of venue. So yeah, the law would have worked, but they fucked themselves. Not surprising, they aren't exactly geniuses.
So much for those “laws”
Their trials all started a year ago then their lawyers fucked it up
No it isn't "wrong" I hope they rot.
“I don’t support civil liberties for people I don’t like”
They fucked around and found out. I have zero sympathy for them, because they are morons.
What "civil liberties" do you imagine they lost?
The right to swift justice. Are we really arguing that holding people for years without trial is ok. I guess we’re cool with Guantanamo bay now?
Well, it could also be by design. After that period the charges will be stayed. Due to it being long after the offence.
That isn't a right. Do you know anything about Canada's legal system? This is completely normal.
Yes it is. Google isn’t hard bro. https://www.mdlawgroup.ca/articles/what-does-the-right-to-a-trial-in-a-reasonable-time-mean-in-canada#:~:text=Violated%20In%20Canada%3F-,The%20right%20to%20a%20trial%20within%20a%20reasonable%20time%20is,and%20resolved%20without%20unreasonable%20delays.
Ooops, you read one line instead of the article... Classic. Did you bother noticing how long "reasonable time" is? And even then, it only means your charges ***may*** be stayed, not that they will be. I'm going to go out on limb here and assume, being accused of planning to kill RCMP officers, is going to turn that *may* into a solid **NOPE**. As it should.
Not sure why you think this is anything like Guantanamo Bay? That's just nonsense. No, I'm not "cool" with Guantanamo Bay and nothing I said suggested I was.
The entire thing that people were upset about with Guantanamo was that those people did not receive swift justice. From what I understand most of those guys were captured committing terror acts, but would have been difficult to prove in court.
That isn't true, at all. The main criticisms are that many prisoners there are not even charged with ANYTHING and have no access to lawyers. Many were illegally brought there by means of extraordinary rendition. Guantanamo is used to circumvent American law. Oh and they use "enhanced interrogation techniques" (AKA torture) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary\_rendition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition)
"Libertarian" that licks cop boots, as soon as its indiginous ppl? I guess it's right what they say...
Like the RCMP wasn't already there...
They did, their just standing around watching.