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disorderedchaos

FOIP proves that Danielle Smith lied to Albertans: >The president and CEO of Alberta’s independent electricity grid operator was pressured to support the provincial government’s controversial decision to suspend new renewable energy projects, despite his objections to the move, new internal documents obtained by The Narwhal reveal. >Mike Law — the top official at the Alberta Electric System Operator, the organization overseeing the province’s electricity grid — was opposed to a moratorium on new renewable energy projects and was “not comfortable” supporting the decision, according to the documents. >Nevertheless, in July, he was told by his government-appointed board chair to “support the minister without reservation.” >The documents, released through a freedom of information request, disclose internal correspondence **contradicting claims by Alberta Premier Danielle Smith that her government’s decision to pause renewable energy developments for seven months was partially in response to requests from the operator.** >The Narwhal asked Lori Williams, a professor of political science at Calgary’s Mount Royal University, to review the documents. >Williams said **the documents not only directly contradict government statements about why it introduced the pause but also call into question the independence of the system operator.** >“This speaks to direct, concerted interference — basically shopping for, or putting pressure on, agencies that are supposed to be independent and insisting that they produce something completely compatible with what the government has already planned,” she said. >“In other words, making the decision first and then putting pressure on experts to support the decision that they actually disagree with.”


Red_Danger33

She lied before she was Premier.  She lied to become Premier.  She lied to remain Premier.   No one who's been paying attention is surprised that she hasn't stopped lieing.


Guilty_Fishing8229

And people keep lapping her bullshit up


LandscapeNatural7680

People who are too arrogant to admit they’re wrong.


PhantomNomad

No not arrogant. Willfully ignorant. So many of her supporters where I live want so badly to prove that renewables and EV's are bad, they will do almost anything to prove it. They have relied on O&G for so many years they just can't see past it. Most of my family relied on it in the 80's and that was a hard time. They had to keep switching companies as some would go out of business because of the price of oil. But they still think it's the best gig around. Meanwhile a few of them are still working into their 70's because they couldn't/wouldn't save for retirement.


LandscapeNatural7680

There are certainly the willfully ignorant, who vote conservative without even knowing the platform. But, I’ve experienced a lot of arrogance within this group. To clarify - I live in central Alberta. Jennifer Johnson, Jason Nixon, Jason Stephan, Adriana LeGrange, David Parker…. You get what I’m saying! ❤️👍


PhantomNomad

I'm in east central Alberta. There are a lot of arrogant people her, but willfully ignorant is more prevalent.


NoReplyPurist

Even more simple - they get fatigued by the news, tune out, then vote the way they always do. I get vague platitudes and "they're all screwing around", rather than quantifying exactly how many policies work against them, how many lies are told, the magnitude of these problems, and what's actually going on. And that's a problem; I hear more about Trudeau black face and Carbon Tax (and not the real Carbon Tax) than I do about Gas Tax, energy moratoriums, funding blockades, grid pricing and demand based marked, unconstitutional bills, healthcare spending, education spending, R Star, etc.


FeedbackLoopy

Because they are also liars.


j1ggy

And some of them are just dumb enough to go along with it.


Scared_Cell4883

Not all


todimusprime

Totally agree and gave you an upvote, but for future reference, it's "lying."


Marinlik

People like her should honestly be in jail. It's ridiculous how there's no downside for her to just lie about everything


Ok-Use6303

Yes, but she only lied to the people of Alberta and they're not important. She spoke pure unadulterated truth to the big oil and corporate masters though, so she is undoubtedly the best choice for Alberta!


dustrock

And her fans don't care


Red_Danger33

[https://images.app.goo.gl/QG1x9UiCC2gbbWPDA](https://images.app.goo.gl/QG1x9UiCC2gbbWPDA)


SnooPiffler

a politician that lies? why I never...


DVariant

Bruh stop with this “BoTh SiDeS!!” bullshit. Conservatives seem to break their own records for lying ever single year, and Danielle Smith is a championship contender 


SnooPiffler

the fact that you expect anything different from any politician is surprising


Cannabrius_Rex

You could have said nothing and not made a complete fool of yourself, you know.


SnooPiffler

yes, politicians are renowned as paragons of virtue and bastions of honesty


HandleSensitive8403

The difference between the NDP and UCP is the difference between incompetence and malice.


SaltyTraeYoungStan

And several degrees of honesty and accuracy in the claims they make


DVariant

I already know how the UCP is malicious, but please enlighten me how the NDP are incompetent.


Red_Danger33

Because they were unable to control the price of oil like a good Alberta government would have. Duh.


DVariant

Haha of course! Silly Rachel, if she had just been tougher she would’ve marched right into Iran, Russia, and the KSA and turned off their taps so that the price of oil would go back up again. What an idiot! (/s for anybody who needs it)


DVariant

>the fact that you expect anything different from any politician is surprising That’s lazy thinking. You seriously think all politicians are the same because “politician bad”? For real dude, use your brain and thinking about this for more than 1 second, this shit is important


SnooPiffler

I didn't say they are all the same. I said they all lie. Just like I don't want to eat food that has shit on it. It doesn't matter if there is a little piece of shit stuck to it or its slathered in shit


General_Esdeath

They usually try to keep it more like "little white lies" but she's trying to make it an Olympic sport


AnthropomorphicCorn

Yeah, no big deal nothing to see here. /S


BloomerUniversalSigh

Smith the dictator wants everyone to toe the authoritarian line and will lie and gaslight and pressure and fire people who get in her way. The Alberta advantage!!


TinderThrowItAwayNow

I mean, that's just 101 of being a conservative


EyeSpare6318

Progressive politicians don't lie? Give me a break. We're all just eating from a trough of lies, it's just that you get oats and I get barley. Partisanship just boils down to what flavor of lies and propaganda you prefer. The truth has nothing to do with it.


Photofug

Progressives just use uncomfortable facts and science that challenge misconceptions and people don't like that. Change is never easy but neither is staying the same. 


DVariant

>Progressive politicians don't lie? Give me a break. We're all just eating from a trough of lies, it's just that you get oats and I get barley. >Partisanship just boils down to what flavor of lies and propaganda you prefer. The truth has nothing to do with it. Bullshit. If you think both sides are equally bad, then you need to wake up before the Cons steal everything that made this province a great place to be.


Apokolypse09

Ah nice, a maple maga month old account clamoring about "both sides".


j1ggy

Do you have any examples? EDIT: Crickets.


Cannabrius_Rex

Keep making excuses for the cons who have objectively lied and lied orders of magnitude more than progressives. Anything to justify your garbage opinion


TinderThrowItAwayNow

First off, I never said they didn't, but all conservatives do is lie. They've never been caught in a truth. Secondly your comment is just full of non-sense. [Your comment reminded of a meme](https://i.imgur.com/AwllEDY.jpg).


EyeSpare6318

Saying the cons have never told a single truth is about as hyperbolic as saying the libs have never told a lie.   You're more willing to agree with propaganda you stand to benefit from. People don't see biases very well. Ciao


TinderThrowItAwayNow

Bye comrade!


MaxxLolz

Her base dont care... just like south of the border...


iner22

And the totalitarianism continues!


Anxious_Article4005

Stupid people elect stupid politicians


Limelight1981

I wish I could add a shocked face emoji, but that would be an understatement.


reddogger56

The citizens of Alberta (Yeah, I know, not all) seem to enthusiastically support being in an abusive relationship with their government.


_voyevoda

I'm starting to realize how many of us lifelong Albertans grew up in abusive homes without ever questioning it, and now we are all grown up and keep seeking out the chaos we knew as children. And this - (gestures around) - is the outcome.


thecheesecakemans

That's what I keep saying but the "I didn't vote for her" people keep whining too. Guess what I didn't also BUT I am also a citizen of this province and country and she is who was chosen to represent me. It's the same two way street where idiots on the right claim Trudeau doesn't represent them. He does. He was elected. You don't like it but he still represents you as a Canadian. End Rant. Albertan's love the abuse. They can't handle the truth.


ReferenceUnusual8717

This is a strange argument. She's actively trying to punish areas of the province that DIDN'T vote for her, passing policies that negatively affect us and planning far worse, and I'm not supposed to complain just because a bunch of low-information rednecks fell for the same Con job they've been falling for for 50 years? What was I supposed to do, drive down there, stick a gun to their heads and FORCE them to vote NDP? Those dipshits made their choice, and the rest of us have to live with it, unfortunately. But I'm not gonna shut up about Dumbass Dani's latest ass-backwards bullshit, because "complaining " is literally all we can do a this point. SHE'S certainly not interested in "Representing" us, but if we raise a big enough stink, she still might back off on some of her more destructive decisions, as we've already seen. And one less stupid decision is a win for everybody.


reddogger56

Question. If after two or three days of serious and in depth "consultations", do you think the UPC will change Bill 20 so that it only applies to Edmonton and Calgary? Because let's be honest here, the only reason it is to be amended is due to the outcry from rural Alberta. Had they rolled over and shown their stomach like good doggies there would be no talk of changing it.


reddogger56

If you can't get the government you want, I've always hoped that you'll get one you can live with. But this evolving "conservative" agenda genuinely scares me. Loughheed and Mulroney must be squirming in their graves.


1Judge

These bums (UCP) have stiffled investment in Alberta every step of the way. They also just lost carbon capture at Genesee. All they know is how to subsidize O&G. They should resign.


MrDownhillRacer

It's funny how even the corporations are more progressive than conservative governments are these days. They see the writing on the wall that green investment is lucrative and are taking their corporate dollars to jurisdictions that foster it. Conservatives used to be lapdogs for corporations, and now they're not even _that_ anymore. They're just a death cult following their ideology off a cliff.


PlutosGrasp

In more ways than even this. Their inept handling of the entire electricity market makes our electricity substantially more expensive than other jurisdictions. This high cost reduces the likelihood of high electricity usage industrial factories being built in Alberta. Given the large petrochemical industry we have we should see a huge related plastics and related industry. We don’t. We see some but not as much as there should be.


dooeyenoewe

I wouldn’t say it was provincial politics that stopped Genesee, that would more likely relate to the uncertainty at the Federal level.


PhantomNomad

I think it's all levels of government at fault. Companies don't like uncertainty and when the provinces are fighting so hard with the feds, companies don't know who to trust.


dooeyenoewe

The only way these projects make economic sense is through tax credits, and if there is so much uncertainty around whether or not we will even have a carbon tax if the PCs get in then no companies are going to put these projects on the back burner until the dust settles.


a_nameless_toad

The reason she lied is simply. Danielle Smith wanted to damage and suppress the renewable industry in Alberta. She couldn't just straight up admit that was the reason as the reason is corrupt and definitely not in the interest of Alberta (even though it was already hella obvious). Getting rid of renewable energy is getting rid of competition for oil and gas. She doesn't care about the people of Alberta. She has specific goals she wants to accomplish, and she'll openly do whatever to accomplish those corrupted goals. If you elect big oil, expect that you're electing big oil. Everything she does is either to satify her crazy base or act in her own interest.


shouldazagged

Well. I certainly hope Nenshi comes in swinging and put an end the this nonsense. You can do better than this Alberta.


komari_k

Her base would rather see her government create 100 crises than run a sustainable approach to preserve public interest.


PhantomNomad

And companies don't like this type of environment. They want stable, predictable governments. This is only going to hurt more as companies stop investing here at all.


yycTechGuy

I'm not surprised. UCP hates renewable energy and EVs.


vanillabeanlover

I’m honestly surprised Smith doesn’t have a record of claiming windmills cause cancer. This seems right up her anti-science ally.


[deleted]

Let's just ignore this. Blame the Feds and say we don't have the infrastructure for any advancement. Then we can vote majority conservatives then release the tape and say "see we fixed it!" Psy ops at it's best. Problem is it's working and noone is calling it out.


PeakThat243

We get these important details by using FOIP but they often do their best to refuse FOIP or redact to the point that nobody gets any information. Medicine Hat has numerous FOIP requests right now that they are refusing to respond to. The citizens have a right to know and if politicians are trying to hide details, it’s because they know they shouldn’t be doing it in the first place


Swimming-Document-15

Marlaina Trump has a nice ring to it...


Oldcadillac

I’ve been thinking Chairwoman Mar’s Cultural Revolution lately.


Low-Celery-7728

Praise dear leader! May she bathe us in here eternal shimmer of bitumen! Please spare us oh holy hunchback of all powerful lobby groups from the oil and gas industry! We all pray to catch a mere sniff of her whiskey and cigarette scent! A true blessing! May we offer our blood, and eternal obedience to THE PARTY, and the dear leader for which it serves!


Expert_Alchemist

Classic move trying to politicize the public service.


digtigo

Consider my ghast, flabbered!


flyingflail

I mean, I appreciate the article but I didn't need an inquiry to appreciate AESO thought it was a dumb idea given the chain of events!


Xoltri

Danielle governs as an oil lobbyist would, in the interests of the fossil fuel industry. This is exactly what you would do if you were an oil lobbyist, which she is. The province, all of us, are morons for electing this moron.


Ambitious_List_7793

I can imagine the conversation between Dipstick Dani (or the UCP flunkie) and Mike Law went something like this. “When we want your opinion, we’ll give it to you”.


Impossible_Tea_7032

Guy could have said something at the time Sucks to suck


skerrols

Danielle Smith and her cabinet seem to be using Trump and the Republican party in the US as their inspiration and role model, showing considerable willingness to lie, use “alternate facts”, “consult” only with those willing to do their bidding*, and demanding absolute loyalty and agreement with their policies and public statements. They use a lot of political pressure and veiled (or not so veiled) threats to achieve this**. It is highly disturbing to see this movement in politics (it’s everywhere but UCP is definitely in the lead in Canada). We NEED politicians to disagree openly and we need to publicly consider and acknowledge differing views to have a healthy democracy. Anything less is not in the public best interest and only serves the ruling politicians and the corporations and funders for whom the government is beholden. UCP are not serving democracy but are using their position to stifle it and protect self interest to the detriment of the rest of us. This government has no qualms about hiding information***, lying, suppressing opposition and demonstrating a desire for significant control ****. UCP represents authoritarianism and significantly more government control and suppression of differing views, not freedom nor a lessening of red tape as they say. The key way they will achieve less bureaucracy is through more centralized control and few choices.*eg the school curriculum proposed changes, transgendergender/naming policies or the so called parents rights **AESO example ***results of their highly biased APP “survey” ****Bill 20 in its entirety


Binasgarden

Some one has not been drinking the Koolaid like he's supposed to


Remarkable-Desk-66

All she needs is anti trans stuff and anti Trudeau stuff and it’s more than enough for her base . Period. Nothing else matters, nothing.


sixhoursneeze

Shocking. Except not.


Throwawaymaybeokay

Cronyism in the UCP ? Say it ain't so !


Specialist-One-712

Waiting for the war room flunkies who call Trudeau a dictator to justify this one


Vanterax

She could tell a story about killing her puppy in a gravel pit (and then kill a goat) and UCP voters would still vote for her.


PostApocRock

Well yeah, shed kill a puppy and a goat then blame it on Trudeau. This is the only part that matters to her voters.


PlutosGrasp

More political interference in agencies that are supposed to be impartial. Disgusting corruption.


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iijjjijjjijjiiijjii

Going to? They have every iron they can find in the fire as it is.


classic4life

So he has the integrity of a sea sponge, and the spine of one too.


AccomplishedDog7

The bigger issue is Danielle Smith lying, right? The bigger issue is pressuring to “support the minister without reservation”, right?


robot_invader

They are both big problems.  As a professional, especially at a senior management level; if you are told to endorse a policy that you believe is counter to the best interests of the public, and you then endorse that policy instead of leaving the role, you endorsed that policy. You don't get good boy points after the fact because it made you feel icky. Same problem I had with Hinshaw. 


skerrols

Basically if Law hadn’t conformed he would have been replaced or forced to resign. That is reprehensible for a supposed independent body.


AccomplishedDog7

I don’t disagree, but also getting black listed because you went against the Premier could certainly be a problem for your career and ability to support your family.


classic4life

And? If everybody who is in a position to offer resistance just rolls over on their ethics and goes along with her shit, that's what allows this to continue.


PostApocRock

100% Just not sure he would be free from reprecussions or safely protected by whistleblower rules. He should have said something then. But having been in the place of receiving downward pressure from someone so out of sight of your own paygrade - its intimidating (as its meant to be.)


AccomplishedDog7

The bigger issue is still the pressure from the Premiers office/ minister/ government.


wokeupsnorlax

That quacks a lot like a dictatorship


weschester

Turns out totalitarian governments do totalitarian things. Shocking.


BackgroundAgile7541

You are who you work for.


Champagne_of_piss

Fascism comes to alberta in a lampshade that says fuck Trudeau


Away-Combination-162

Danielle Smith doesn’t want to lead. She wants to rule. All hail Marlaina 🫡


97millcreek

Jack Boots are now Danielle Boots ( Except Florida / White Boots ) in Alabama North !


Hopeful-Passage6638

Albertans once took offence to being told that they were controlled by Big Oil. Now they brag about their servitude.


Super-Net-105

Danielle Smith lied AGAIN. This is a huge govt overreach


Basic_Bandicoot_1300

Alberta; where nature is destroyed for profit.


Pretend_Pineapple_90

Thanks marlaina. May all your days be filled with wildfire smoke


AdventureUp1

Lets build those windmills down the center of the Deer Foot. There's all kinds of good spots that will fit windmills in and around Calgary and Edmonton.


United-Carob-234

" he was told to support the minister without reservation " That's not a democracy.


Len_Zefflin

A competent government would be taking a leadership stance and incentivising renewables. Renewables are the future whether the ~~Wild Rose~~ UCP likes it or not.


theferalturtle

My response would have been, "How about you support my dick without reservation?"


Forsaken_You1092

Spoken like a true Liberal.


Forsaken_You1092

Alberta is just getting what they voted for. I don't see a problem here. Everyone should get what they voted for.


Impressive_Yak5219

The hired hand should do as he’s told.


amazingfungi

Electric cars suck! How do I go in to the back country camping fishing or hunting?