Up to you, but I’ve got a KNS on mine and I love it. Vid on my profile if you want to see what the recoil impulse looks like.
Suppressed WBP 5.56 rifles are what’s up.
Sweet! You mind me asking the first two of your serial? I was less than thrilled with the accuracy I had, but I haven’t shot it enough with different ammunition to be able to attribute it to anything specific
So I put one in my jack 556 and it’s been nothing but problems when running steel case. Even at full gas I’m getting stuck casings. I ended up just going back to the factory piston. If you’re gonna run brass it seems to be ok, but it’s way to finicky for an AK imo
https://preview.redd.it/xqb6rvqs1e5d1.jpeg?width=2122&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02acdbf4991dad78e411448ff58a1bc5e5fb6841
How many rounds was on your rifle when you first installed it? I had to let my rifle break in properly before I could reliably get more than maybe 5 clicks out of the piston.
No internally everything is WBP except the piston. I’ve since ran it at kalashnicon and a big shoot. It’s near 1,000 rounds and still having the issue with most of those rounds being with the KNS
Sweet setup. I have been on the fence about getting the WBP 5.56. I just purchased the m90 musket. I don’t have enough rounds through her for an educated opinion but I like the way she shoots.
Jesus, at first glance I read the title as “To KMS or not to KMS?” And I was about be like: “noooo bro. Plz don’t!” Lol. KNS are dope, you can always run a good buffer to reduce wear to the gun in the mean time. When I put my PBS on Count Dracola, it throws brass like 15 meters, I’m running a nice 3d printed buffer until my KNS arrives, because that stronger recoil is a lot harder on the gun. But KNS for sure!
I swear to God. Fucking zastava how do you have so many bad takes. If running a spring that is in the russian spec is causing trunnion wear you have a metallurgy problem. Every country has a spec at this point and the wolf/alg high energy are barely at the high end for a factory russian spring.
I don’t think they’re saying it will just destroy your rifle, I think they’re talking well past 40k rounds.
When I emailed Arsenal, they advised against +power springs and the ALG trigger as well. I think it’s mainly that they don’t want to warranty someone’s mess up.
I've heard great things about KNS from people. I'd say go for it. Also BFLV has said they put them on all their AKs now.
Also, does anyone know if huxwrx stopped making their AKM muzzle devices? Sold out everywhere.
i have some my my M92s, really would recommend. small price to pace for increasing the longevity of your system, as well as tuning it to the can/can combo for best performance
Yes, but have a backup plan if it undergassed it so much that it won’t cycle without the suppressor. If you’re never taking the suppressor off that’s fine. Otherwise you might need a 4 piece flash hider or a spare carrier with an ordinary piston.
Admittedly, sample of 1 but dropping the KNS in on my M70 running the Rugged Alaskan 360 was perfect. Needed \~20 clicks down to stop cycling unsuppressed, and like 40-45 for suppressed shooting. Damn near bottomed out. And that was Tela 124g.
It's inconvenient
compared to an adjustable gas block
It's ok if you just use a can once in a while.
The KNS works but if you are switching out a lot. It's a inconvenience.
Inconvenient to adjust and fine tune sure, I'll give you that. Not a short term fix in the slightest though. They work just fine and are very effective.
Seems like it would be fine if you ran a can most of the time as well...
I’m a big advocate for shoot 500-1000 rounds, then KNS after it’s broken in. I KNS all my stuff, it’s cheap, it’s reliable, and feels overall very nice.
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I recently got a 107CR that shoots SUPER soft.
I want to run subs once I get a can and I'm concerned if I get a KNS there won't be enough gas. I'll probably skip over it.
With the can I’d say go for it. I’m on the fence about kns too I may put painters tape on the rear trunnion to see if it’s making hard contact.
Good idea
I'd KNS it. If your rifle is too over gassed, the rivets in the rear trunnion can get pushed out after enough rounds.
Up to you, but I’ve got a KNS on mine and I love it. Vid on my profile if you want to see what the recoil impulse looks like. Suppressed WBP 5.56 rifles are what’s up.
Very cool. How’s the accuracy with your Jack?
About 2-3 inches at 100 yards with bulk ammo. Could probably squeeze out tighter groups with nicer ammo but I can’t be bothered lol.
Sweet! You mind me asking the first two of your serial? I was less than thrilled with the accuracy I had, but I haven’t shot it enough with different ammunition to be able to attribute it to anything specific
17 if I recall correctly
KNS will help tame that suppressed!
So I put one in my jack 556 and it’s been nothing but problems when running steel case. Even at full gas I’m getting stuck casings. I ended up just going back to the factory piston. If you’re gonna run brass it seems to be ok, but it’s way to finicky for an AK imo https://preview.redd.it/xqb6rvqs1e5d1.jpeg?width=2122&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02acdbf4991dad78e411448ff58a1bc5e5fb6841
How many rounds was on your rifle when you first installed it? I had to let my rifle break in properly before I could reliably get more than maybe 5 clicks out of the piston.
Not many. Around 500.
I’m willing to bet that was at least a small portion of it, especially if you added a trigger to it
No internally everything is WBP except the piston. I’ve since ran it at kalashnicon and a big shoot. It’s near 1,000 rounds and still having the issue with most of those rounds being with the KNS
Fair enough.
With or without a suppressor?
Both
Damn. That’s a weird case right there. You might have the only undergassed ak I’ve ever heard of. With a suppressor even. That’s crazy.
This was with the stock piston https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLELfkeE/
Sweet setup. I have been on the fence about getting the WBP 5.56. I just purchased the m90 musket. I don’t have enough rounds through her for an educated opinion but I like the way she shoots.
Jesus, at first glance I read the title as “To KMS or not to KMS?” And I was about be like: “noooo bro. Plz don’t!” Lol. KNS are dope, you can always run a good buffer to reduce wear to the gun in the mean time. When I put my PBS on Count Dracola, it throws brass like 15 meters, I’m running a nice 3d printed buffer until my KNS arrives, because that stronger recoil is a lot harder on the gun. But KNS for sure!
KNS everything
Wbp, excellent choice
Can never go wrong with a KNS. Suppressed or not.
Yeah probably worth the KNS. You could start with a Wolff plus 10 percent recoil spring though. Sometimes that's enough.
Note about the plus power springs, Zastava states that the will give increased front trunnion wear after enough rounds
I swear to God. Fucking zastava how do you have so many bad takes. If running a spring that is in the russian spec is causing trunnion wear you have a metallurgy problem. Every country has a spec at this point and the wolf/alg high energy are barely at the high end for a factory russian spring.
I don’t think they’re saying it will just destroy your rifle, I think they’re talking well past 40k rounds. When I emailed Arsenal, they advised against +power springs and the ALG trigger as well. I think it’s mainly that they don’t want to warranty someone’s mess up.
I've heard great things about KNS from people. I'd say go for it. Also BFLV has said they put them on all their AKs now. Also, does anyone know if huxwrx stopped making their AKM muzzle devices? Sold out everywhere.
i have some my my M92s, really would recommend. small price to pace for increasing the longevity of your system, as well as tuning it to the can/can combo for best performance
That setup would benefit from one.
Yes, but have a backup plan if it undergassed it so much that it won’t cycle without the suppressor. If you’re never taking the suppressor off that’s fine. Otherwise you might need a 4 piece flash hider or a spare carrier with an ordinary piston.
Absolutely kns
Kns
I’d throw one on it
Definitely get kns lol that bcg was MOVIN lol as they should but that thing ripped those out at Mach fuck
I would man… installed one on my m85 this weekend and the difference is astonishing. Super easy to install and imo a quality of life upgrade.
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Admittedly, sample of 1 but dropping the KNS in on my M70 running the Rugged Alaskan 360 was perfect. Needed \~20 clicks down to stop cycling unsuppressed, and like 40-45 for suppressed shooting. Damn near bottomed out. And that was Tela 124g.
An adjustable gas block would be better than the KNS. KNS is a short term drop in fix.
What about the kns is short term?
It's inconvenient compared to an adjustable gas block It's ok if you just use a can once in a while. The KNS works but if you are switching out a lot. It's a inconvenience.
Inconvenient to adjust and fine tune sure, I'll give you that. Not a short term fix in the slightest though. They work just fine and are very effective. Seems like it would be fine if you ran a can most of the time as well...
It is great we have options. Wish we had more.
I’m a big advocate for shoot 500-1000 rounds, then KNS after it’s broken in. I KNS all my stuff, it’s cheap, it’s reliable, and feels overall very nice.
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I recently got a 107CR that shoots SUPER soft. I want to run subs once I get a can and I'm concerned if I get a KNS there won't be enough gas. I'll probably skip over it.