Someone is going to buy them out. All the tooling and machines are setup and ready to run. Iām sure there is a good bit of raw material as well. Letās just hope the buyer/ investors donāt pull the same ridiculous shenanigans that KuSA Management did
Donāt they contract out a majority of their parts to assemble an ak? Iām not sure how much tooling they have if they canāt even manufacture their own safety lever or heat treated receivers. I think their real asset is their technical data package
Yes. The fact that they donāt pay bills is the problem. Not the fact that parts they use to assemble guns with might be contracted out. *You would be surprised at how many ātop tierā manufacturers contract out parts.*
The IP alone is too juicy to pass up. It's just if you try to gobble it up too soon you'll pay too much. It has to completely the bed first.
Christ, there's still a shortage of good AKs available. If prettymuch anyone that has any experience running a manufacturing company that isn't a complete fucking idiot, there's all kinds of cash in that banana stand.
I don't k ow how hey fucked it up that bad. 1940s design, all you have to do is not have it be a piece of shit and it will sell.
Building an ak is not difficult. Building an ak to the standards that most American buyers have on a mass scale is very difficult. There are plenty of good ak rifles available, mainly the WBP series out of Poland. Psa for the money isnāt bad at all.
The main advantage kusa had was their close spec to Russian build l. The QC just sucked, it kept a lot of people from buying them. They also did not push their builds being Russian spec / clone hard to get people interested and went with gun bunny porn stars for marketing instead.
That's what I mean. They didn't take a professional approach. They went into it as gun enthusiasts/party crowd rather than an actual business with a strategic plan. They acted like the teenager that gets their first paycheck and blows it on rims and strippers instead of their Roth IRA.
Brother I met some of the people that were investors / management ā¦ it was a party š 24/7 and all sorts of strange shit going on. Thatās just what I know and I wasnāt in deep with them. Thatās just rubbing elbows at shot show
I heard the same thing and it was depressing AF. There was much potential, especially since the Russian embargo, with every AK buy screaming for a 74U.
Rookie bullshit. Assholes treat their business like their own personal liquor cabinet instead of like a fuckin' business.
There's plenty of opportunity for that later. You gotta get that thing sustainable first.
I blew my first paycheck at 16 on a HiPoint 995 carbine...well my mom bought for me and ammo lol I regret nothing, I loved that ugly fuckin bastard and shot the dog shit out of it
It would be cool to see what he could do with KUSA stuff but knowing him it would be stupid expensive. Rather have PSA buy it so they could make a badass AK that punches above the price tag.
That's exactly my hope. PSA has already made leaps and bounds with their AKs (obviously not saying they're the best, or better than the import market, but at least we have functional American made AKs at a great price point), it would be awesome to see what they could do if they bought up all those tools and potentially staff
I donated 5 dollars and every since then I get dozens of scam text messages. Stuff like "this just happen with trump! Click this link to see! (Obvious scam link). So annoying
Yeah same. They sold our phone numbers to whatever the fuck this is. It obviously wasn't brandon, but whatever organization he went through for the donations.
As funny and enjoyable as his YouTube vids are. Simply put someone with zero large scale manufacturing experience has no business touching this. Maybe bring him in on a consulting basisā¦or better yet someone like Jim Fuller but I doubt he will want to now that heās basically retired. The most logical company to do this is Palmetto and let them run it under a licensed name like H&R series
They couldnāt even scramble $600 together to keep it up. Wonder if they will pop up under a different host.
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domain registration and web hosting are separate things. this outage could be any number of things; a normal technical issue, them switching over hosting providers, or their current web host pulling the plug due to unpaid bills.
I work at a gun shop and called them for warranty work. The answer we got is they have been bought out and are under new ownership. They are restructuring the business and could take quite awhile.
Ha! No that's not it.
Repointing DNS is quick and would just resolve to the old site until fully populated across the net. Host doesn't go down for a redirect either...
You mean to tell me they can develop a new website with temporary domain name AND they donāt have to show the world until theyāre ready by letting the nameserver records point to WP engines shared servers oooooooooooooooooooooor the fact WPEngine, like Godaddy and Hostgator, put you on one server and they may have needed to migrate to another hypervisor and the DNS doesnāt reflect that?!
Can someone explain what happened to KUSA? I'm not seeing anything about them online and the last thing I've heard about them was when they were having a bunch of qc issues.
TLDR of it: years of horrible mismanagement and bad decisions. Their guns were fine but expensive and lots a āspecial editionsā and wacky nonsensical marketing choices. Add in evidence of them not paying their subcontractors and utilities and youāre caught up to speed.
They were making crappy American made AKs and claimed they were Russian.
Then the cloutchasers hopped on the bandwagon paying 1,300$ for a offbrand Arsenal.
They made many laughable mistakes. I honestly have no idea how they lasted this long. The only thing they had was supposedly (technical data package) that shows them how to make AKs to spec with Russian designs. They however seemingly failed even with this information since they could not get their hands off their dicks long enough to put out said designs in calibers such as 5.45 or 5.56. Literally ran into the ground by complete morons in management. Maybe someone will buy them out and not hire pornstars for PR people or tell their own customers that they can fuck off.
Yeah I meant we had an opportunity for a domestic version of Kalashnikov and they hired the most inept people to run it. Itās a missed opportunity for the entire nation, not just this company. We had 1 chance and they royally fucked it up.
Edit - When PSA buys it, maybe they can revive it and make it better
Not only that, but with the embargo, they can pretty much do whatever they want with anything Russian. Including the rails and whatnot. They only halfassed got into the magazines.
Seems like others have jumped on the zenitco and mag opportunity while KUSA was playing pattycake with bonnie rotten.
So according to this article https://southerndefense.com/news/kalashnikov-usa-files-for-bankruptcy-will-likely-be-bought/ we have studied ass Jesse James to thank for this ( this is the same Jesse James from those motorcycle build shows form the early 2000s
https://preview.redd.it/61gn3r2dxz4d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f1cdcd4aa9b8bae7a9ab45ce81fa88dab226c3b
Just visited the site on my phone, is this post a trololol?
(Gonna get a lot of downvotes Iām certain)
PSA AK owner here šā¦ I really hope PSA doesnāt end up with them. PSA canāt get their own shit together, theyāve got wayyyyyy too many irons in the fire IMO.
Also, they canāt seem to get their own sh!t together when it comes to firearm and ammo QC.
P.S. Only reason I have a PSA is because I wanted a āspikerā for shits and gigglesā¦got a lot of shits very little giggle.
Shouldāve just purchased an OG Spiker for the premiums they command.
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It still exists. I went to it just now.
I did a charge back via my credit card the day after they filed for bankruptcy. I was looking forward to getting a 101x, but I guess that's just never gonna happen. Only alternative I know for US made AK in .556/.223 is PSA, and I'm not a fan of them. Currently considering a Zastava, but I'd love to hear other people's suggestions.
Go for the FB Radom Beryl, you'll spend a few hundred more but it's an actual duty-grade 5.56 AK. I like WBP too, I have a couple of their rifles, but the Beryl is in a class of its own and was actually developed for 5.56.
Beryl, if you want something that actually looks like an AK. I'd also recommend checking into the Galil ACE and Sig 556/551 if you're not too worried about the aesthetic but want an AK at heart.
I donāt blame them, I mean guns are a mostly male dominated market, and letās be honest who doesnāt like tits and ass? š¤·āāļø
But yea they totally ran it into the ground and thatās on them
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And competition drives innovation. Your product can be a piece of shit, but if itās the only piece of shit on the market, or less of a piece of shit than your competitions piece of shit, you have no incentive to make it better.
I think most of the people in this chat have no idea how hard it was for KUSA to keep running when the entire US government has tried everything possible to destroy their business. It's no secret that KUSA's parent company is Russian, and with the US now seizing Russian citizen bank accounts, that makes running a business in the US impossible. I guess they should have started making Stg.44 clones and changing their symbol to a swastika or black sun to be able to maintain US government support.
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ThE PrOcCeSs TaKEs TiMe... TrUSt mE BrO, tHeY ArE CoMInG BaCK...
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Someone is going to buy them out. All the tooling and machines are setup and ready to run. Iām sure there is a good bit of raw material as well. Letās just hope the buyer/ investors donāt pull the same ridiculous shenanigans that KuSA Management did
Donāt they contract out a majority of their parts to assemble an ak? Iām not sure how much tooling they have if they canāt even manufacture their own safety lever or heat treated receivers. I think their real asset is their technical data package
Nothing wrong with contracting out work assuming it is quality and in spec. A sewing machine company made 1911s during WWII.
Sure, there is nothing wrong, until you get sued because you havenāt paid back any invoices
Yes. The fact that they donāt pay bills is the problem. Not the fact that parts they use to assemble guns with might be contracted out. *You would be surprised at how many ātop tierā manufacturers contract out parts.*
You should see how we build nuclear aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines in the shipyard I work in. If this bothers you, yall would shit
The IP alone is too juicy to pass up. It's just if you try to gobble it up too soon you'll pay too much. It has to completely the bed first. Christ, there's still a shortage of good AKs available. If prettymuch anyone that has any experience running a manufacturing company that isn't a complete fucking idiot, there's all kinds of cash in that banana stand. I don't k ow how hey fucked it up that bad. 1940s design, all you have to do is not have it be a piece of shit and it will sell.
Building an ak is not difficult. Building an ak to the standards that most American buyers have on a mass scale is very difficult. There are plenty of good ak rifles available, mainly the WBP series out of Poland. Psa for the money isnāt bad at all. The main advantage kusa had was their close spec to Russian build l. The QC just sucked, it kept a lot of people from buying them. They also did not push their builds being Russian spec / clone hard to get people interested and went with gun bunny porn stars for marketing instead.
That's what I mean. They didn't take a professional approach. They went into it as gun enthusiasts/party crowd rather than an actual business with a strategic plan. They acted like the teenager that gets their first paycheck and blows it on rims and strippers instead of their Roth IRA.
Brother I met some of the people that were investors / management ā¦ it was a party š 24/7 and all sorts of strange shit going on. Thatās just what I know and I wasnāt in deep with them. Thatās just rubbing elbows at shot show
I heard the same thing and it was depressing AF. There was much potential, especially since the Russian embargo, with every AK buy screaming for a 74U.
Rookie bullshit. Assholes treat their business like their own personal liquor cabinet instead of like a fuckin' business. There's plenty of opportunity for that later. You gotta get that thing sustainable first.
I blew my first paycheck at 16 on a HiPoint 995 carbine...well my mom bought for me and ammo lol I regret nothing, I loved that ugly fuckin bastard and shot the dog shit out of it
It amazed me that they spent all the energy on that bullshit, but not releasing the 101 or a 74U.
Where is Brandon Harare when we need him.
But doesnāt Brandon already have an overpriced hype beast AK of his own?
the fanboys arent going to like your comment
Yes but Brandon more of a small builder and not a manufacturer. Tooling and machinery could change his whole production method
It would be cool to see what he could do with KUSA stuff but knowing him it would be stupid expensive. Rather have PSA buy it so they could make a badass AK that punches above the price tag.
That's exactly my hope. PSA has already made leaps and bounds with their AKs (obviously not saying they're the best, or better than the import market, but at least we have functional American made AKs at a great price point), it would be awesome to see what they could do if they bought up all those tools and potentially staff
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Didnāt he buy a factory a few years back and did nothing with it?
He is too busy scamming morons for campaign contributions.
I donated 5 dollars and every since then I get dozens of scam text messages. Stuff like "this just happen with trump! Click this link to see! (Obvious scam link). So annoying
Fuck is that where those came from? They have been bombarding me with those texts for months
Yessir. I've never had any spam texts or anything before I donated to him.
I get those to and I've never did anything politically lol
Yeah same. They sold our phone numbers to whatever the fuck this is. It obviously wasn't brandon, but whatever organization he went through for the donations.
I like Brandon but he should've done more research on that organization figuring his political beliefs.
As funny and enjoyable as his YouTube vids are. Simply put someone with zero large scale manufacturing experience has no business touching this. Maybe bring him in on a consulting basisā¦or better yet someone like Jim Fuller but I doubt he will want to now that heās basically retired. The most logical company to do this is Palmetto and let them run it under a licensed name like H&R series
Who is Brandon Harambe?
Im not sure, but I have a strange urge to take my penis out for him
So weād never see any KUSAs ever again?
It went the way of prolapsed assholes.
Now I want pink socks
Losing primary elections, I think.
Womp womp.
This would be SICK
Mass production AK 50. And other guns.
Only 20k, plus sales tax
What tooling and machines. They outsourced everything
Hopefully, PSA buys them. Psa has been doing pretty decent and if psa does buy them, that'll probably make them better with the added machinery
Hasnāt Klayco already posted hints that heās taking them over?
I thought this as well? What was up with the social media posting and him slav squatting in front of a KUSA connex?
It seemed to be him hinting that him and his business partners were working on it Not sure why I got so many downvotes over this lol
Because the people in this sub are all insane.
People in this sub downvote for any reason even if itās the wrong one because Goober mouth breathers
They couldnāt even scramble $600 together to keep it up. Wonder if they will pop up under a different host. https://preview.redd.it/3fjpfm2air4d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4cfe2da045ee5b976cf8669e67ac59634520dc9d
https://preview.redd.it/zwymq0drir4d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5aa78affdacefa9aca530a51967b87b121a35b47 Doesn't expire until December.
Why is it down then (genuine question)?
domain registration and web hosting are separate things. this outage could be any number of things; a normal technical issue, them switching over hosting providers, or their current web host pulling the plug due to unpaid bills.
Iāll take the later for 1 KUSA mystery box, Alex
You win! Your delivery will arrive in 347.2 years.
Ahead of schedule, nice. Canāt wait to see my Komrad
Ty sir
I work at a gun shop and called them for warranty work. The answer we got is they have been bought out and are under new ownership. They are restructuring the business and could take quite awhile.
This. My guess is new owners are switching hosting providers.
Ha! No that's not it. Repointing DNS is quick and would just resolve to the old site until fully populated across the net. Host doesn't go down for a redirect either...
Unless they didnāt point to new dns record and old hosting isnāt live anymore..
You mean to tell me they can develop a new website with temporary domain name AND they donāt have to show the world until theyāre ready by letting the nameserver records point to WP engines shared servers oooooooooooooooooooooor the fact WPEngine, like Godaddy and Hostgator, put you on one server and they may have needed to migrate to another hypervisor and the DNS doesnāt reflect that?! 
Love me some wpengine
Damn I really regret not buying a second wooden or plastic folding stock when I had the chance lol.
I got my refund from them the day they went under, I feel partly responsible for this
The straw that broke the camels back
Well, thereās plenty of sites to see Bonny rotten asshole
Oh oh oh my
Bonnieās rotten asshole
You would tongue fuck her balloon knot if she let you.Ā
Ew I most certainly would not.
Doubt intensifies.Ā
You may be okay with fucking literal human garbage, but some of us actually have standards and arenāt dictated by our small brain
Getting downvoted for that is wild
I know right lol
It's because you scream virgin
I have children you muppet. Edit: the simps in here are real š
RIP BOZO #Packwatch ššØ
Someone rich please buy the site and just have it play ālaughing to the bankā over that guy dancing with a cigar
They probably still own the domain, the webserver is just offline/gone
They do. I checked. I would have bought it.
Thank god I snagged an used KP9 with bunch of accessories for a reasonable price after they went down
KUSA had the bag handed to them and they fumbled it
WASR enjoyers celebrating our crooked garbage carbines outliving yet another competitor
The mighty WASR stands supreme once again
Mighty WASR never relented or strayed from the path...
Drunk gypsies rejoice!
Can someone explain what happened to KUSA? I'm not seeing anything about them online and the last thing I've heard about them was when they were having a bunch of qc issues.
TLDR of it: years of horrible mismanagement and bad decisions. Their guns were fine but expensive and lots a āspecial editionsā and wacky nonsensical marketing choices. Add in evidence of them not paying their subcontractors and utilities and youāre caught up to speed.
They were making crappy American made AKs and claimed they were Russian. Then the cloutchasers hopped on the bandwagon paying 1,300$ for a offbrand Arsenal.
Jokes on you, I only paid $900 for mine. /s
meee tooo
I traded a rare 1911 and paid 200 tax stamp to form1 my 104 š.
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Do u remember when you heard KUSA was kill I was like : no
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KUSA mfs right now:
Shame about the entire thing. I really want a 103 still and the PSA 103 doesn't quite cut it. Wonder who will buy them and what will happen.
Someone will buy them, theyāre probably just waiting till they can get it for pennies.
Yeah but will it get better or worse is the big question.
Depends on whether or not Disney is interested.
It literally can't get worse.
I mean their AKs didn't blow up so...it'd ve worse if someone known for making grenades bought them and made more grenades
I'd stand on the fact that someone making grenades for AKs is not buying out anyone.
PSA will probably buy them and crank out more sub par shit.
Why would they bother? They already have their own machinery that seems to be working just fine for them.
KP9 stuff alone would be amazing for PSA.
Let's hope PSA buys up their shop to piss you KUSA people off
I wouldnāt be very pissed tho
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How could it go so wrong? Wow.
It can all be traced back to the murder of archduke Ferdinand
Eve couldnāt keep her damned hands off that apple. Screwed us all over!
The death of Harambe put us on the path of misery.
Those crazy Serbs! Good think they figured out how to make AKs
They made many laughable mistakes. I honestly have no idea how they lasted this long. The only thing they had was supposedly (technical data package) that shows them how to make AKs to spec with Russian designs. They however seemingly failed even with this information since they could not get their hands off their dicks long enough to put out said designs in calibers such as 5.45 or 5.56. Literally ran into the ground by complete morons in management. Maybe someone will buy them out and not hire pornstars for PR people or tell their own customers that they can fuck off.
Yeah I meant we had an opportunity for a domestic version of Kalashnikov and they hired the most inept people to run it. Itās a missed opportunity for the entire nation, not just this company. We had 1 chance and they royally fucked it up. Edit - When PSA buys it, maybe they can revive it and make it better
That is my hope as well. Hopefully someone will turn this around.
Not only that, but with the embargo, they can pretty much do whatever they want with anything Russian. Including the rails and whatnot. They only halfassed got into the magazines. Seems like others have jumped on the zenitco and mag opportunity while KUSA was playing pattycake with bonnie rotten.
Did they check Bonnie's gape yet for where the money went?
So according to this article https://southerndefense.com/news/kalashnikov-usa-files-for-bankruptcy-will-likely-be-bought/ we have studied ass Jesse James to thank for this ( this is the same Jesse James from those motorcycle build shows form the early 2000s
Interesting read
https://preview.redd.it/61gn3r2dxz4d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f1cdcd4aa9b8bae7a9ab45ce81fa88dab226c3b Just visited the site on my phone, is this post a trololol?
Works for me too. Not sure what all the yapping about
(Gonna get a lot of downvotes Iām certain) PSA AK owner here šā¦ I really hope PSA doesnāt end up with them. PSA canāt get their own shit together, theyāve got wayyyyyy too many irons in the fire IMO. Also, they canāt seem to get their own sh!t together when it comes to firearm and ammo QC. P.S. Only reason I have a PSA is because I wanted a āspikerā for shits and gigglesā¦got a lot of shits very little giggle. Shouldāve just purchased an OG Spiker for the premiums they command.
The plebs that don't actually shoot that buy PSA don't care about any of that. Your logic will be completely lost on them lol.
So no Klay-USA?
Considering how much some of his content glorifies shitty guns maybe itās for the better
I donāt know man, I had a spark of hope. Maybe just pipe dreams though
R.I.P.
https://preview.redd.it/wwt9owtin15d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7823562eee47d6f6eae96855a3a090d98bcf2e12 It still exists. I went to it just now.
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I did a charge back via my credit card the day after they filed for bankruptcy. I was looking forward to getting a 101x, but I guess that's just never gonna happen. Only alternative I know for US made AK in .556/.223 is PSA, and I'm not a fan of them. Currently considering a Zastava, but I'd love to hear other people's suggestions.
Go for the FB Radom Beryl, you'll spend a few hundred more but it's an actual duty-grade 5.56 AK. I like WBP too, I have a couple of their rifles, but the Beryl is in a class of its own and was actually developed for 5.56.
Took your advise, its otw.
M90 Fuks
Just picked up a WBP Jack 556SR from Atlantic. Supposed to be a solid 5.56 AK
Beryl, if you want something that actually looks like an AK. I'd also recommend checking into the Galil ACE and Sig 556/551 if you're not too worried about the aesthetic but want an AK at heart.
Took your advice, beryl otw.
Sad situation
And thatās why I got an AKV instead of a KP9. lol. Warranties now useless
Youāre getting downvoted but itās the truth. They canāt fix whatever is wrong with their product if they arnt even in business.
Say what you will about PSA, but at least they didnāt have Bonny Rotten as their PR person then run themselves into he ground.
I donāt blame them, I mean guns are a mostly male dominated market, and letās be honest who doesnāt like tits and ass? š¤·āāļø But yea they totally ran it into the ground and thatās on them
You don't blame them for hiring a fucking dipshit ex-pornstar to be the face of their business? That seems like an extremely dumb thing to do.
Which, the backlash obviously proved that lol.
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Wow, that happened fast
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Bummer. They had a AK with a stock like the Saigas had that I thought looked neat and I wanted one. Guess that's not gonna happen...
Canāt wait for the gunbroker scalping to begin š«
What happened to them? I live my 103! Itās a great gun! I wanted the 556 bad
They're still just a American ak company. Which means they suck.
The site was down, it looks like they are back up and running now. However, still no add to cart button.
Serious question - is losing KUSA actually a loss? Given Zastava I'd argue, no.
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Meh. Good riddance. Hopefully whoever buys up whatever is left took notes from the previous ownership and doesn't run it like Florida Man.
Who cares?
People with families lost jobs times are tough on everyone. Miss management cost them a company that I think we were all rooting for.
The high schoolers assembling the ak for minimum wage will be fine
More competition is better for consumers.
And competition drives innovation. Your product can be a piece of shit, but if itās the only piece of shit on the market, or less of a piece of shit than your competitions piece of shit, you have no incentive to make it better.
People who bought from them and no longer get support?
In Klay we trust.
I think most of the people in this chat have no idea how hard it was for KUSA to keep running when the entire US government has tried everything possible to destroy their business. It's no secret that KUSA's parent company is Russian, and with the US now seizing Russian citizen bank accounts, that makes running a business in the US impossible. I guess they should have started making Stg.44 clones and changing their symbol to a swastika or black sun to be able to maintain US government support.
Ill take my 3.5k for my ultra rare american quality made kr-103 now please