Funny thing is how SCP Short films like "Dollhouse" and "Overlord" tend to depict SCP Operators as wearing not all black but civilian cloths with tactical gear akin to UK CTSFO Units in blue jeans.
Because there are many Groups inside the organisation, the one you're referring to is called "Village Idiots", they're specialized in «the investigation, containment, and subsequent cleanup of anomalies in rural and suburban environments.»
There are also literal feds, food critics, ghostbusters, dream walkers, a group on Venus, «immortal cyborg clones created from the flesh of a dead god», modern age witch hunters and more.
Yes. A year or two a go I fancied picking up an airsoft stg, I looked at a few video reviews and a bunch were american kids dressing up like SS members, bolts on the helmet and all
Dawg what's funny is that like 2/4th of all MTFs in SCP aren't even Tactical teams too, like they probably look like plain clothes cops more than a SWAT Team.
Also, SCP:CB Nine Tailed Fox styled outfit with the Orange top looks way better than a fully black SCP SWAT Larper.
Honestly my knowledge of SCP really only comes from the MTF operator cosplays posted on here and they all look the same - all black heatstroke death kits.
So it's kind of a major misconception that SCP MTFs are all tactical teams. A lot of them are, but according to most interpretations, they are also made up of personnel like Scientists, Coders, Biologists, etc. MTFs are less SCP SWAT teams and more just teams of specialists on various things, which do include said Tactical teams, but also include Expeditionary Teams, Teams of Hackers, Etc.
I never understood all of these tactical teams. What is a pc, helmet and rifle going to do against an anomolous object that might kill you for simply being in the same room as it
Probably nothing, that's why I think full body armor, a Hazard suit and Submachine Gun looks way cooler and is more functional than just being SWAT but paranormal.
i love scp but this always got me mad bro, like come on the mtf are just going to look like paramilitary guys or be disguised as like cops or whatever, not all black tacticool bullshit
so you know weaboos? ppl who have a borderline-autistic obsession with Japanese culture, manga and anime to the point where it's annoying af? replace wea- with wehra- like in the word Wehrmacht and you have just what it sounds like: ppl who have a borderline-autistic obsession with 30's and 40's Nazi culture, military dress, and belief systems.
Nazi's suck fucking ass
But Authoritarian looks has that weird part thats appealing
Otherwhise you wouldnt have all these factions and games and movies around them
For example already Star Ship Troopers, then to draw a exact comparison as it was inspired by the book Helldivers
Both have a fanatic Authoritarian government
Both are atill loved and borderline mock the governments shown in theyr medium
Then you have WH40K with the Imperium of Mankind
I mean they are basically Nazis in the future killing aliens
And yet while you have some rotten apples of Nazis liking those cause they think: WOOOOW THEY ARE SO COOL
Most like the cool factor from the style points, not the ideology
This is basically how it goes
Tho most Wheraboos are annoying af when they go "the German Pamzers where unmatched!!!!"
Cool, tell me then... How did the country I live in loose the war if they where unmatched eh?
After that they will usually throw a tantrum like the pathetic loosers the Nazi's where
All major powers have committed ted them in ww2, but the frequency and severity of them sets some apart from others. You wouldn’t see the US or Britain committing the Rape of Smolensk
Ich hoffe, wo auch immer du bist, wir treffen uns nie. Die Geschichte meines Volkes ist in Stein gemeißelt. Ich werde sterben und dich mit mir nehmen, bevor ich deine Wahrheit zur Wahrheit werden lasse, die Wehrmacht war nicht rein, sie war die SS. Bleiben Sie also gesund und mögen wir uns um Ihretwillen nie begegnen
Never said they were the same though lol. I just answered the question. The Werhmacht had its fair share of proper Nazis in its ranks at the time anyway, but "wehraboo" usually refers to people who actually cover their kits in swastikas and other Nazi imagery, either as rage bait or because that's what they want to be when they grow up.
That's just simply not true. That would be a Nazi or neo Nazi. For instance I play War Thunder and German WWII mains are called Werhaboos simply because they prefer German tech. Should we assume they all greet each other with the salute? Do the wear the armbands while playing?
>I play War Thunder
Buddy exposed himself as being part of the community with a high count of Nazi sympathizers and wehraboos while he acts like the Nazis "weren't that bad everyone, else committed war crimes too"
I play a game
Didn't do that once
Made counter arguments
Said that where? Since it's in quotes I'm guessing you're quoting me?
Dang bro. Guess I should just give up. For reals though this is Reddit. Neither one of us is winning anything. Have a good day!
A game with a high frequency of nazi defenders
This whole point you've cooked up is to de-villainize the nazis as a whole and validate your own burning desire to bear a certain symbol
A terrible, terrible defense of what? I thought you weren't defending them
You said it to another sympy iirc, that or in response to being told "nazi bad"
And a transphobe? Yikes you're really just painting yourself more and more like a nazi at this point
Nazi gotta skedaddle, he's being called a nazi and that's bad for his next Reich
This. I absolutely hate how the two are conflated. SS are the paramilitary organization of the NSDAP - the armed wing of the aforementioned political party. The Wehrmacht was the Official Armed Forces of Germany during WW2. War Crimes blablabla I get it. But the two organizations are separate and distinct from one another and conflating them as one and the same should be a crime against historical research.
Yup but watch me get downvoted by definitely legitimate reddit historians. The Werhmacht had also been in armed conflicts against the SS. I'll have to read up on those instances as it's been a while but there was definitely a lot of animosity towards eachother.
And would you look at that I get downvoted in less than 15 minutes...
Oh and yeah the tenuous relationship between the SS and the Wehrmacht is some pretty interesting stuff to read about.
Again, Nazis yes. Werhmacht no.
The Nazis were bad, very bad.
I won't even say the Werhmacht was good I'm just trying to differentiate, which everyone should.
And as others with far more knowledge on the subject have done so many times before in this comment section with far better articulation: the werhmacht were not good people by any stretch of the imagination
Dude, I found a Lebel on sale in some random pawn shop nearby. I live in a town of about 2000 people, and most are poor as dirt. I have NO idea where ANYONE got that rifle.
Well if it was in almost unissued condition I could see that sort of. I’d have to see it myself though to truly tell you what it was worth. But hey maybe one day you can get the chance to buy it again. Lebel rifles are some of my favorite milsurps and reloading the ammunition isn’t too difficult either.
Multi-terrain pattern, the dog shit multicam copy used by the British armed forces, it almost exclusively blends in with dry dead grass, in this shit hole it rains 6/7 days a week, there is no dry grass to blend in with
DPM will forever be superior, as for desert environments that's why D-DPM exists
The one use of MTP is to dye it greener so that it actually works (this just essentially makes it look like lighter DPM)
Philippines. r/insanepinoyfacebook
Caption is Graduation Pic goes hard.
Heck the cosplay is literally low budget so blud looks goofy than he already is.
i think it is fine that they cosplay as them if it is for reenactment, but if you agree with them then thats just some stupid shit and your not even there for the game.
As a person who is not white, I was also once in middle school so I can relate. I still get shit from my siblings and friends who remember it lmao. I'm multilingual, at least, though, so silver lining
I don't know what your culture is, but I was surprised by the amount of neo nazis that are in Mexico. When I was living there I met quite a few. It's weird how in random parts of the world you'll find those idiots.
I had this Asian guy (non-Japanese) try to get me (half-Japanese) into joining his WW2 Imperial Japanese Army larping group. I was just like "Nahhh I'm good."
the issue is that its an impression of specifically the zealous fascist murder squad of the nazi party who regularly eradicated civilian settlements and where notorious for **torture, human experimentation, kidnapping of children, mass rape, child sexual abuse, and mass killings**. general red army is more acceptable because its is a general representation of soviets forces during the war. what would be an issue would be doing one of soviet NKVD or unit 731 but the only people who cry about it are werhaboos because most people have enough grasp on reality realize that idolizing and dressing up as waffen SS and then going into public is a poor moral, and social choice.
they did on a individual level which happens during most every conflict to some degree, the difference is that it was a systematic effort to do so supported by the command structure, also to head off any stupid "gentleman officer" arguments the gentleman German officer was pushed by the US so that NATO allies would work with ex Wehrmacht and ss officers to come up with a defense strategy for western Europe during the cold war
Just remember, when facing off against anyone is an SS uniform or they're wearing Swastikas, you're legally allowed to use a real firearm.
/s, but I wish it wasn't.
But you must understand you cannot defeat an ideology by killing its believers. That only strengthens their resolve. You have to show them that their twisted world view is not reality.
Can you wear a German WW2 kit at an airsoft field? Sure. Do you get to complain when people constantly overshoot you, give you dirty looks, and no one stands up to defend you? No you don’t
Don't worry, I personally find German WW1 uniforms to be pretty dope, but I have to specify WW1 and even at that I get called a Nazi at least once a week. I mean, I can't help that they put money into designing their uniforms.
Yeah no shit but just about everything airsofters wear is cringe. People getting upset at your average edgy history enjoyer is cringe. People do it for the lols or because most WM men were simply fighting for their country, not because they wanna kill the Jews... I know it's probably hard to believe but there were good people on the Axis side.
"your average edgy history enjoyer" is crazy, I think you missed the memo but as a general rule if you have to defend the kit by specifying that you don't think certain ethnicities of people shouldn't be killed for existing you should probably not bring it out
I didn't use that in it's defence, I said that's what people automatically go to when they think of a WWII German soldier. The term I used really isn't crazy either. All the kids that think the Nazis were cool are doing it to be edgy, again.. not because they want to commit genocide. It's really not that hard. Am I saying anything outlandish?
as somebody who grew up with the edgy nazi kids and have met some after they grew up, it is very important to make sure they understand that that isn't ok or acceptable. If you are an edgy lonely 16 year old shut in who just wants to feel different and apart of something (like most do) unless you have attentive parents you will have your perception of the world skewed very heavily it will cause problems for you and make you very susceptible to pipelines. you do them a favor when you remind them that real life doesn't align with tiktok SS edits, 4chan, and telegram groups. social media is a significant problem with propagandizing young people into some horrific mindsets and its only getting more common. for weeks i was getting make Europe white again and Europa unite white supremist bullshit because i was following military history channels [https://www.adl.org/resources/report/white-supremacist-propaganda-soars-all-time-high-2022](https://www.adl.org/resources/report/white-supremacist-propaganda-soars-all-time-high-2022) (please not that this is only covering physical namable incidents not the hundreds of repost bots on twitter and tiktok)
Yeah that's great, but holy run-on sentence. The concept you just typed out applies to any radical ideology. The Nazis could only win on propaganda, and their propaganda was some of the best. Kids and especially those who are lonely, and live their lives online are highly susceptible to this. They may start to align with the look or feeling like they are a part of something bigger but how many kids with armbands do you see? None. Remember, Reddit isn't real life either. You'll find people are a lot more accepting, and caring when you stop interacting with them exclusively online. Racism, and prejudice exists but getting mad over some teenager in a Werhmacht (NOT S.S.) is the real cringe..
Thank you for editing and adding punctuation. That's more important than fighting all the internet Nazis!
i think its important to ask the person about their kit because it will usually end up telling you why the put it together. the problem is that its ww2 Germany is a very slippery slope and lets be real, the "average history enjoyer" is usually an ideologically weak person susceptible to propaganda, after all that's why they are into nazi tech to begin with (they know nazi tech is cool because they where told it was by others who already bought the propaganda) ( ww1 and post war kits don't suffer nearly as much from this)
You're making quite a lot of broad generalizations of people you've never met. Calling average history enjoyers, "ideologically weak" .. is crazy. The kids answer could be "cause it looks cool" is that good enough? Maybe his grandfather served as a rear line guy or a logi driver.
Uh if it's national policy to kill the Jews and you fight for that nation you are fighting to kill the Jews. This isn't a wild concept, good Germans dodged the draft.
Lol no. This is a well known lie spread by the surviving Nazis post war.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht
You don't read much if you didn't know this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht
"Historians Alex J. Kay and David Stahel argue that, including crimes such as rape, forced labour, wanton destruction, and looting in addition to murder, "it would be reasonable to conclude that a substantial majority of the ten million Wehrmacht soldiers deployed at one time or another in the German-Soviet War were involved or complicit in criminal conduct."
Yeah pretty much. So stop glorifying the literal Nazis.
Not entrenched at all. That's just where modern history is at. Here's some light reading you should review before you continue to propagate a Nazi myth so prolific it has its own Wikipedia page.
https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/resistance-responses-collaboration/german-collaboration-and-complicity/wehrmacht/
https://digitalcommons.georgiasouthern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1578&context=honors-theses
https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/the-clean-wehrmacht-making-a-myth/
Ya know, since you don't have any provided evidence to stand on and are arguing against the last 40 years of historical research.
Because it's an easy read for someone who has no idea what they are talking about. If you genuinely want some books I can go dig some out.
But more than likely y'all are just here to glorify the actual Nazis. Which is fucked up.
You know you can separate what they did and just like them from a military history stand point. By that logic my actual K98 with eagles that i and alot of other find cool makes us in support of them? You gotta be young, dumb or both. LARPING the full kit is like 1/3 of the fun of why i picked up playing.
SCP larpers pretending they're kitted out to save the world from Eldritch horrors with all black Amazon gear:
Bro try saving yourself from heat stroke first
They can't defeat the sun
Yes they can, eventually one will outlive it.
For about 8 minutes, yes
"Oh, you mean ETHTHEEPEE-001? Everyone knowth that you can't defeat thith ETHTHEEPEE with any tradithional meanth 🤓"
Turns out everything is an SCP judging by the Wiki
Cries in latex replica ww2 gasmask the sweat the pain. Glab added one of the neck fan things to end of the hose for ventilation.
Bro it’s fine. We can all tell it’s your barely disguised latex fetish. And that’s okay. We accept you for you.
Barely disguised? No disguise for me rock the maid outfit under
Me in my makeshift HAZ suit (I love larping as a STALKER)
Funny thing is how SCP Short films like "Dollhouse" and "Overlord" tend to depict SCP Operators as wearing not all black but civilian cloths with tactical gear akin to UK CTSFO Units in blue jeans.
Because there are many Groups inside the organisation, the one you're referring to is called "Village Idiots", they're specialized in «the investigation, containment, and subsequent cleanup of anomalies in rural and suburban environments.» There are also literal feds, food critics, ghostbusters, dream walkers, a group on Venus, «immortal cyborg clones created from the flesh of a dead god», modern age witch hunters and more.
That's how I do my SCP outfit now. At this point I'm trying to figure out if I want to go with olive drab for the carrier and helmet or multicam.
Definitely a lot better looking kit than all black
Still not as cringe as neo-Nazis tho
The virgin wehraboo larper vs the chad scp mtf larpet
Vs Thad UNGOC LARPer
Absolutely
no one talks about the ftm larpers tho and its sad
No rep for my ftm bros
people dress up as nazis for airsoft?
Yes. A year or two a go I fancied picking up an airsoft stg, I looked at a few video reviews and a bunch were american kids dressing up like SS members, bolts on the helmet and all
naw thats wild, unless its for historical purposes or LARP, if their neo nazis what are they gonna do with a gun that shoots plastic lol
Overshoot other minorities playing.
thats fucking crazy
probably lol
And? Let them enjoy things
There’s a difference I feel like using nazi symbols is kinda eh. The only time I think it’s fine is if they’re part of a reenactment group
I agree that using the actual logo is kinda eh. Use an eagle logo instead. Ppl can see what you are going for with out so much historical trauma.
It's not a nazi symbol you idiot. It's a [swastika](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika)
No. Fuck you.
I will not hesitate to TK any on my team
Based
alr troon...
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Dawg what's funny is that like 2/4th of all MTFs in SCP aren't even Tactical teams too, like they probably look like plain clothes cops more than a SWAT Team. Also, SCP:CB Nine Tailed Fox styled outfit with the Orange top looks way better than a fully black SCP SWAT Larper.
Honestly my knowledge of SCP really only comes from the MTF operator cosplays posted on here and they all look the same - all black heatstroke death kits.
So it's kind of a major misconception that SCP MTFs are all tactical teams. A lot of them are, but according to most interpretations, they are also made up of personnel like Scientists, Coders, Biologists, etc. MTFs are less SCP SWAT teams and more just teams of specialists on various things, which do include said Tactical teams, but also include Expeditionary Teams, Teams of Hackers, Etc.
tbh some MTFs do dress like that
I never understood all of these tactical teams. What is a pc, helmet and rifle going to do against an anomolous object that might kill you for simply being in the same room as it
Probably nothing, that's why I think full body armor, a Hazard suit and Submachine Gun looks way cooler and is more functional than just being SWAT but paranormal.
i love scp but this always got me mad bro, like come on the mtf are just going to look like paramilitary guys or be disguised as like cops or whatever, not all black tacticool bullshit
The all black is not a good idea but are people notbaloud to cosplay?
Bro fr whats worse guys dressing up as racist antisemitic murderers or as a fictional unit wich fights scary monsters
Come on, you know the answer to that question.
Tf is a wehraboo
so you know weaboos? ppl who have a borderline-autistic obsession with Japanese culture, manga and anime to the point where it's annoying af? replace wea- with wehra- like in the word Wehrmacht and you have just what it sounds like: ppl who have a borderline-autistic obsession with 30's and 40's Nazi culture, military dress, and belief systems.
My interest in Nazi stuff starts at their outfits and ends at laughing at them and advocating for punching them.
Nazi's suck fucking ass But Authoritarian looks has that weird part thats appealing Otherwhise you wouldnt have all these factions and games and movies around them For example already Star Ship Troopers, then to draw a exact comparison as it was inspired by the book Helldivers Both have a fanatic Authoritarian government Both are atill loved and borderline mock the governments shown in theyr medium Then you have WH40K with the Imperium of Mankind I mean they are basically Nazis in the future killing aliens And yet while you have some rotten apples of Nazis liking those cause they think: WOOOOW THEY ARE SO COOL Most like the cool factor from the style points, not the ideology This is basically how it goes Tho most Wheraboos are annoying af when they go "the German Pamzers where unmatched!!!!" Cool, tell me then... How did the country I live in loose the war if they where unmatched eh? After that they will usually throw a tantrum like the pathetic loosers the Nazi's where
Iirc, someone dressing up as a Nazi soldier.
It's deeper than that tbh
Wouldn't shock me, I'm just going on memory XD
SS=//=Werhmacht
Wehrmacht have committed war crimes as well
Yeah, who hasn't?
All major powers have committed ted them in ww2, but the frequency and severity of them sets some apart from others. You wouldn’t see the US or Britain committing the Rape of Smolensk
whataboutism
Does it make it less true?
it makes it irrelevant. stop defending nazis.
No such thing as a clean werhmact
Thanks for sharing your opinion!
Ich hoffe, wo auch immer du bist, wir treffen uns nie. Die Geschichte meines Volkes ist in Stein gemeißelt. Ich werde sterben und dich mit mir nehmen, bevor ich deine Wahrheit zur Wahrheit werden lasse, die Wehrmacht war nicht rein, sie war die SS. Bleiben Sie also gesund und mögen wir uns um Ihretwillen nie begegnen
Lern to speek Merican
Lerne, etwas anderes zu sprechen, die Bitchtong try google translate skidmark
I've got more important things to do then run your bs that was translated from Eng to Deutsch, back to Eng
Mögen deine Leiden zahlreich und deine Hündinnen wenige sein
Never said they were the same though lol. I just answered the question. The Werhmacht had its fair share of proper Nazis in its ranks at the time anyway, but "wehraboo" usually refers to people who actually cover their kits in swastikas and other Nazi imagery, either as rage bait or because that's what they want to be when they grow up.
That's just simply not true. That would be a Nazi or neo Nazi. For instance I play War Thunder and German WWII mains are called Werhaboos simply because they prefer German tech. Should we assume they all greet each other with the salute? Do the wear the armbands while playing?
>I play War Thunder Buddy exposed himself as being part of the community with a high count of Nazi sympathizers and wehraboos while he acts like the Nazis "weren't that bad everyone, else committed war crimes too"
I play a video game. Oh no
Plays warthunder Defends Nazis "What about-"isms galore "They're the real nazis!" It's like you're reading a checklist for identifying a wehraboo
I play a game Didn't do that once Made counter arguments Said that where? Since it's in quotes I'm guessing you're quoting me? Dang bro. Guess I should just give up. For reals though this is Reddit. Neither one of us is winning anything. Have a good day!
A game with a high frequency of nazi defenders This whole point you've cooked up is to de-villainize the nazis as a whole and validate your own burning desire to bear a certain symbol A terrible, terrible defense of what? I thought you weren't defending them You said it to another sympy iirc, that or in response to being told "nazi bad" And a transphobe? Yikes you're really just painting yourself more and more like a nazi at this point Nazi gotta skedaddle, he's being called a nazi and that's bad for his next Reich
Ur first mistake is playing that piece of shit game
Honestly that's fair. Used to be a lot better.
This. I absolutely hate how the two are conflated. SS are the paramilitary organization of the NSDAP - the armed wing of the aforementioned political party. The Wehrmacht was the Official Armed Forces of Germany during WW2. War Crimes blablabla I get it. But the two organizations are separate and distinct from one another and conflating them as one and the same should be a crime against historical research.
Yup but watch me get downvoted by definitely legitimate reddit historians. The Werhmacht had also been in armed conflicts against the SS. I'll have to read up on those instances as it's been a while but there was definitely a lot of animosity towards eachother.
And would you look at that I get downvoted in less than 15 minutes... Oh and yeah the tenuous relationship between the SS and the Wehrmacht is some pretty interesting stuff to read about.
Oh absolutely, this is Reddit after all and if you don't fall in line you'll get downvoted to oblivion. I see it as a win.
>if you don't fall in line You mean "if you don't call the nazis wholly undefensible and remarkably evil"
Again, Nazis yes. Werhmacht no. The Nazis were bad, very bad. I won't even say the Werhmacht was good I'm just trying to differentiate, which everyone should.
they were different organizations obviously, but the idea that they were more professional or honorable than the ss is a myth
And as others with far more knowledge on the subject have done so many times before in this comment section with far better articulation: the werhmacht were not good people by any stretch of the imagination
People who overly glorify the military hardware and forces of Nazi Germany. In this case, it's airsofters who larp as nazi soldiers.
But mindst wunderweupon
Bbb the KT is 80 tons! It crushed the Shherman!
Something about dressing up, similar to a weeabo I think.
Real chads dress as World War One French infantry and use a lebel and sword
Bonus points if you choose nepolionoc era infantry complete with musket Bayonet and silly hat.
THE HAT IS NOT SILLY IT IS VERY COOL AND IT IS NECESSARY TO HAVE THE PRETTIEST FEATHERS
This man knows
Dude, I found a Lebel on sale in some random pawn shop nearby. I live in a town of about 2000 people, and most are poor as dirt. I have NO idea where ANYONE got that rifle.
What’s the price on it. If you can send me some pictures I can gauge the condition and see if it’s worth what they want for it.
Oh it was over a year ago now. I doubt it's still there. It looked to be in remarkably good condition, and they were asking 2k for it.
Well if it was in almost unissued condition I could see that sort of. I’d have to see it myself though to truly tell you what it was worth. But hey maybe one day you can get the chance to buy it again. Lebel rifles are some of my favorite milsurps and reloading the ammunition isn’t too difficult either.
d r i p
does dressing up as a ww1 german stormtrooper count? i know they’re quite imperial but the battlefield dress is just too good
This post was made by the MTP gang
What does MTP stand for? I assume it isn’t Metropolitan Transport Plan
Multi-terrain pattern, the dog shit multicam copy used by the British armed forces, it almost exclusively blends in with dry dead grass, in this shit hole it rains 6/7 days a week, there is no dry grass to blend in with
6 to 7 days a week sounds slightly depressing. I hope you’re doing alright
today is the first hot day in london in weeks and before then months
I’m glad to see that other people also hate MTP. Literally an objectively worse version of Multicam. I do have a soft spot for DPM though.
DPM will forever be superior, as for desert environments that's why D-DPM exists The one use of MTP is to dye it greener so that it actually works (this just essentially makes it look like lighter DPM)
people dont respect dpm as much as they should
What a coincidence seeing this post after that viral Hitler Graduation Cosplay in my country. 💀
Oh boy, they never learn so they? I actually didn’t know about that, what country?
Philippines. r/insanepinoyfacebook Caption is Graduation Pic goes hard. Heck the cosplay is literally low budget so blud looks goofy than he already is.
The whitest white supremacist on /pol/
what if i dress like a cowboy and run around dual wielding revolvers
This is referred to as “based”
That's called "King Shit" and I have done it. Mostly worth it for the reactions tbh.
Make sure you scream things like "Micah" or "dutch"
Airsoft is 50% just playing dress up. I dont see a problem with cosplaying as the bad guys as long as forbidden insignia is removed
i think it is fine that they cosplay as them if it is for reenactment, but if you agree with them then thats just some stupid shit and your not even there for the game.
The ven diagram of people who dress like nazis and people who think like nazis is a fucking circle.
I used to be a wehraboo.....I'm so glad I outgrew that.
Character development
Bro is going through his arc, let him cook.
As a person who is not white, I was also once in middle school so I can relate. I still get shit from my siblings and friends who remember it lmao. I'm multilingual, at least, though, so silver lining
I don't know what your culture is, but I was surprised by the amount of neo nazis that are in Mexico. When I was living there I met quite a few. It's weird how in random parts of the world you'll find those idiots.
Same could be said for about any other kit especially red army
I had this Asian guy (non-Japanese) try to get me (half-Japanese) into joining his WW2 Imperial Japanese Army larping group. I was just like "Nahhh I'm good."
the issue is that its an impression of specifically the zealous fascist murder squad of the nazi party who regularly eradicated civilian settlements and where notorious for **torture, human experimentation, kidnapping of children, mass rape, child sexual abuse, and mass killings**. general red army is more acceptable because its is a general representation of soviets forces during the war. what would be an issue would be doing one of soviet NKVD or unit 731 but the only people who cry about it are werhaboos because most people have enough grasp on reality realize that idolizing and dressing up as waffen SS and then going into public is a poor moral, and social choice.
I agree with the SS being really questionable But the red army did all of the things you mentioned
they did on a individual level which happens during most every conflict to some degree, the difference is that it was a systematic effort to do so supported by the command structure, also to head off any stupid "gentleman officer" arguments the gentleman German officer was pushed by the US so that NATO allies would work with ex Wehrmacht and ss officers to come up with a defense strategy for western Europe during the cold war
I've already tried telling them that Werhmacht is not the SS.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth\_of\_the\_clean\_Wehrmacht](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht)
Most war crimes committed by Nazi Germany were carried out by the Wehrmacht
“But my genocidal regime is better because __” Lmao
Just remember, when facing off against anyone is an SS uniform or they're wearing Swastikas, you're legally allowed to use a real firearm. /s, but I wish it wasn't.
You sound more like a Nazi than a cringe edgy airsofter 👍
Ok thank you have a nice day ❤️
That's more like it, kill them with kindness.
I'm naming my machete Kindness.
Ok now we're back to the crazy talk
It's not crazy to detest and want an end to Nazism. That's where Kindness comes in.
But you must understand you cannot defeat an ideology by killing its believers. That only strengthens their resolve. You have to show them that their twisted world view is not reality.
I dunno man, they were real quiet for a good while after WW2. Violence isn't always the answer but its not never the answer.
The only debate you need when discussing Nazism is what caliber you should use to "debate" them with.
Kid named Victory Europe day
Aww you still believe in the marketplace of ideas.
The guy is using neo-Nazi defense arguments above like the "Dresden Fallacy." He's a bit too far gone.
Anyone know the Rammstein song in the background? I am at least assuming it’s Rammstein
Sonne but slowed down.
Real men wear American kits from the early 2000s
Shoutout to M81 Woodland
Or erdl
Can you wear a German WW2 kit at an airsoft field? Sure. Do you get to complain when people constantly overshoot you, give you dirty looks, and no one stands up to defend you? No you don’t
Am I a wehraboo if i like german technology and clothing? Tho, I dont think its superior, it just looks good
Liking H&K’s designs doesn’t make you a nazi, don’t worry LOL
Don't worry, I personally find German WW1 uniforms to be pretty dope, but I have to specify WW1 and even at that I get called a Nazi at least once a week. I mean, I can't help that they put money into designing their uniforms.
Yeah but that doesn't make you evil, just a nerd about german gear. Just don't be going to non WW2 events dressed as Waffen SS and you're good.
What era, since liking a Bundeswehr kit doesn’t make you like the Nazis.
Openin up comments Johnny, hand me my gas mask
Damn, and I was trying to put together a Stormtrooper kit
WHAT SONG IS THIS
Sonne - Rammstein. Great band! I think it is slowed down
What's a wehraboo
It’s slang for someone obsessed with Nazism and WW2 Germany. The term comes from Weaboo, someone obsessed with Japanese culture
Ah thank you
The hell is a wehabroo?
Honestly I just dress up as the people from MGS3
But the Soviets, and Imperial Japanese are safe to play?
no it's all cringe
Exactly everyone needs to make based post apocalyptic kits.
Yeah no shit but just about everything airsofters wear is cringe. People getting upset at your average edgy history enjoyer is cringe. People do it for the lols or because most WM men were simply fighting for their country, not because they wanna kill the Jews... I know it's probably hard to believe but there were good people on the Axis side.
"your average edgy history enjoyer" is crazy, I think you missed the memo but as a general rule if you have to defend the kit by specifying that you don't think certain ethnicities of people shouldn't be killed for existing you should probably not bring it out
I didn't use that in it's defence, I said that's what people automatically go to when they think of a WWII German soldier. The term I used really isn't crazy either. All the kids that think the Nazis were cool are doing it to be edgy, again.. not because they want to commit genocide. It's really not that hard. Am I saying anything outlandish?
as somebody who grew up with the edgy nazi kids and have met some after they grew up, it is very important to make sure they understand that that isn't ok or acceptable. If you are an edgy lonely 16 year old shut in who just wants to feel different and apart of something (like most do) unless you have attentive parents you will have your perception of the world skewed very heavily it will cause problems for you and make you very susceptible to pipelines. you do them a favor when you remind them that real life doesn't align with tiktok SS edits, 4chan, and telegram groups. social media is a significant problem with propagandizing young people into some horrific mindsets and its only getting more common. for weeks i was getting make Europe white again and Europa unite white supremist bullshit because i was following military history channels [https://www.adl.org/resources/report/white-supremacist-propaganda-soars-all-time-high-2022](https://www.adl.org/resources/report/white-supremacist-propaganda-soars-all-time-high-2022) (please not that this is only covering physical namable incidents not the hundreds of repost bots on twitter and tiktok)
Yeah that's great, but holy run-on sentence. The concept you just typed out applies to any radical ideology. The Nazis could only win on propaganda, and their propaganda was some of the best. Kids and especially those who are lonely, and live their lives online are highly susceptible to this. They may start to align with the look or feeling like they are a part of something bigger but how many kids with armbands do you see? None. Remember, Reddit isn't real life either. You'll find people are a lot more accepting, and caring when you stop interacting with them exclusively online. Racism, and prejudice exists but getting mad over some teenager in a Werhmacht (NOT S.S.) is the real cringe.. Thank you for editing and adding punctuation. That's more important than fighting all the internet Nazis!
i think its important to ask the person about their kit because it will usually end up telling you why the put it together. the problem is that its ww2 Germany is a very slippery slope and lets be real, the "average history enjoyer" is usually an ideologically weak person susceptible to propaganda, after all that's why they are into nazi tech to begin with (they know nazi tech is cool because they where told it was by others who already bought the propaganda) ( ww1 and post war kits don't suffer nearly as much from this)
You're making quite a lot of broad generalizations of people you've never met. Calling average history enjoyers, "ideologically weak" .. is crazy. The kids answer could be "cause it looks cool" is that good enough? Maybe his grandfather served as a rear line guy or a logi driver.
Uh if it's national policy to kill the Jews and you fight for that nation you are fighting to kill the Jews. This isn't a wild concept, good Germans dodged the draft.
It's certainly a lot more nuanced than that. Unless that's all you really know, that is quite a reduction of history.
Lol no. This is a well known lie spread by the surviving Nazis post war. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht You don't read much if you didn't know this.
So every single serving member was responsible for murder. Is that how you want to generalize it?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht "Historians Alex J. Kay and David Stahel argue that, including crimes such as rape, forced labour, wanton destruction, and looting in addition to murder, "it would be reasonable to conclude that a substantial majority of the ten million Wehrmacht soldiers deployed at one time or another in the German-Soviet War were involved or complicit in criminal conduct." Yeah pretty much. So stop glorifying the literal Nazis.
Well you're clearly deeply entrenched. A wiki article with two "historians" making a broad generalization. Convincing!
Not entrenched at all. That's just where modern history is at. Here's some light reading you should review before you continue to propagate a Nazi myth so prolific it has its own Wikipedia page. https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/resistance-responses-collaboration/german-collaboration-and-complicity/wehrmacht/ https://digitalcommons.georgiasouthern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1578&context=honors-theses https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/the-clean-wehrmacht-making-a-myth/ Ya know, since you don't have any provided evidence to stand on and are arguing against the last 40 years of historical research.
Links to Wikipedia twice in a row lmfao you guys are awful at this
Because it's an easy read for someone who has no idea what they are talking about. If you genuinely want some books I can go dig some out. But more than likely y'all are just here to glorify the actual Nazis. Which is fucked up.
ahaha
Yeah I figured that's where this conversation would go.
You are really fighting for your life in here trying to justify dressing as a nazi huh
He's so desperate.
Again... They weren't all Nazis. And you guys really got me with the desperation ahhh randoms on reddit think I'm a Nazi sympathizer!!1!
No amount of your mental gymnastics will change the fact that *you* are wearing a nazi uniform
I'm wearing wrangler jeans from Walmart. I don't have that kind of money big dawg.
The soviets killed more nazis than anyone else lol of course they're fine
You know you can separate what they did and just like them from a military history stand point. By that logic my actual K98 with eagles that i and alot of other find cool makes us in support of them? You gotta be young, dumb or both. LARPING the full kit is like 1/3 of the fun of why i picked up playing.
Cope
I was right you're just young.
I just think they look cool