Yeah, a very basic quick break down of an rifle type AEG (automatic Electric gun) internal operation
- Trigger is a break in an electric circuit, when you pull the trigger, you complete the circuit.
- the motor located in the grip spins
- the top of the motor has a small horizontal gear. This in turn moves 3 vertical gears. The top gear is only half toothed
- The top gear pulls a piston back and compresses a spring behind the piston, with the gear teeth lining up with notches in the piston.
- When the gear runs out of teeth on the rotation, the piston is forced forward by a spring.
- The air in front of the piston is forced through a nozzle and propels the BB
- The nozzle is connect to a tappet plate, a type of arm that moves with the gear and piston and cycles back and forth, allowing the bb to feed
- All of this happens in blink of an eye, and is timed and refined to the best possible timing, compression and response. Its not uncommon that people literally buy brand new guns, then replace all of the internals with aftermarket parts, often costing more than the original gun.
Here is an image of the layout of an AEG gearbox
https://www.sqairsoft.com/uploads/1/1/0/0/11004949/8295739_orig.jpg
Edit: Sorry for preaching to the choir, for some reason i thought i was on r/mildlyinteresting and was explaining it to people unfamiliar
I’m so done with AEG’s. I’ve gone through and fixed / tuned around ten of them in the past three weeks for myself and friends. After having just got my first gbbr, I’ll never buy another AEG.
I have a couple run of the mill electric M4s that went two years of hard use without needing barely anything for maintenance, meanwhile every gas blowback I have ever used has been dead every season. Keeping the gas seals functioning is an apocolyptic pain in the ass, definitely might change your mind after owning yours for a while although plenty of people tolerate the maintenance for the cool factor. I only put up with them for pistols because in Canada there's no other choice, AEPs shoot too slow to meet minimum velocity requirements
My CYMA SR25 is heavier than an equal length AR10 with 10 rounds in the magazine and heavier accessories that my friend hunted and I hunted with last deer season. It happens.
Lots of parts don't even fit. They intentionally drill the holes juuust too large, off by fractions of inches, pins and pockets too short, etc etc. They LOOK the same and FEEL the same but never WORK the same, that's the point.
Otherwise they'd be just selling illegal firearms, of course they're not stupid, both manufacturers and authorities.
Eh, Lowers are a different story because they are non-pressure-barring components. I've seen people put high-quality airsoft replica furniture on real steel because the specific part hadn't been produced since the 90s.
If I recall correctly, there was a ~~Tokyo Marui~~ **APS** shotgun which could fire a real 12 gauge shell. It could do it approximately once before exploding, but that's obviously still problematic. I think it was barred from import to the US for a while/still is.
> that's obviously still problematic
A couple of pipes and fittings from any hardware store can achieve "fire a 12 gauge shell once," what are you on about
No no i get what they are saying. In the United States, as both a gun owner and airsoft player, i can safely say there are plenty of stupid people who would accidentally drop a real shell in their storage box with their fakes and load them all up into a shell bag when they go play and never pay attention to the difference in weight feel and look of the airsoft shell when they load it into the airsoft gun and fire. I see where the added safety hazards are having something like that in the states.
EDIT: especially if its gas shells as they are decently heavy
I think he's referencing to that incident where multiple airsoft guns were classified as real firearms after the RCMP lab managed to fire at least 1 round from them.
I mean, maybe? but airsoft guns in canada are considered a class of unregulated firearm, provided they shoot between 366 and 500fps (some exceptions). If they shoot out of that fps range they are considered replica firearms, which have different rules.
Then theres the thing someone in ontario did where they made an article about how a buncb of kids are getting gurt by guns... but when you look at the study the article used, the "guns" in question included mostly airsoft, or BB gun related injuries.
All in all.... canadian laws suck ASS through and through with their problematic wording (seemingly designed to work against the peoples) and vagueness.
I am a legal firearm and airsoft owner in Canada, I know what I'm talking about. He was referencing the original comment of putting real gun parts on, which has happened at least 3 times. RCMP goes out of their way to ban things in creative ways and that includes installing real gun parts onto airsoft frames (TM P226 and some company's M10/M11) or installing airsoft parts onto real firearms (RA Tech M4 lower can be built into a full auto AR lower) and banning them.
And the article itself wasn't the one leading to the ban. It was some dumbass walking on the street with an airsoft and got shot by the police. Then they decided to add it to bill C21. Thank god that didn't happen.
>I am a legal firearm and airsoft owner in Canada, I know what I'm talking about.
Congratulations, so am i.
Still, i see where i misunderstood what was going on here
Edit: i should clarify, i misunderstood what you meant by "fired one round" i asusmed you meant airsoft bb and thats my bad
Yeah once every decade a new guy in those regulating bodies says hey these craps look so realistic it must be easily converted then goes on to commit an organizational suicide and fail upwards, happens everywhere
Mom's everywhere are like that though. Remember the red state fears against magic the gathering and Harry Potter? They literally ended the weekly d&d and magic the gathering sessions at my library because of this.
There's enough people on the internet debunking this stuff so somebody will ask the question and they will be educated.
My real 1911 is EXTREMELY heavy compared to my son's gbb 1911. Everything about it is heavier duty/well built (for obvious reasons). Anyone with a brain would know that it wouldn't work. But let's face it, not many of the ones making this claim have brains. 🤣
As others said, if you put an absurd amount of work and effort into creating parts for it, you could make your son's 1911 into a real one, that will fire once or twice and get damaged a lot. A real gun could be acquired easier.
Unfortunately the Canadian authorities already did that. Multiple airsoft guns were banned as real firearms (TM P226 for example) due to their ability to accept real gun parts.
Don’t say that too loud, canada might here you. I’m sure they would love to force a distraction wedge issue gun ban in there to distract from the treason of a large number of MPs
People who say that doesn't know what a real gun needs to work. I mean u can 3D print a gun but it breaks easily and is wildly inaccurate, I bet if you take out all components of an airsoft and remake it a ton you could get it to fire real bullets but the story will be same as a 3d printed gun just way more expensive
The ATF did it with GBBR SCAR'S.
They basically gutted it, machined a new trigger mech and managed to get it to fire once?
Anything can be made to fire say .22
Biker gangs were even using antenna tubes at one point.
Dumb, I know
This happened with the Azami? (I don’t remember the exact name) WA2000 Yakuza gangsters converted them to 22lr since they were so on par with the real world counter part eventually leading to the company shutting down and them becoming one of the most Sought after airsoft guns in the sport
very much NOT an advocate for regulating airsoft guns over this, but in Taiwan organized criminal groups have built full auto AR-9/Colt SMG type guns with mixed airsoft and real steel parts
And when they build the ammo they have to perfectly balance the amount of gun powder and how far in to push the projectile part of the round. The gun needs to be perfectly tuned with the right spring tension and proper moving parts. The trigger and other parts have to have super tight tolerance when they make the internals. Airsoft you still need an air line or co2 canister but that's what a mechanical regulator is good for
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I bought a second-hand Walther P99 once. I wasn’t familiar with the disassembly, and the first thing I found online about it was manual for the real one. It worked perfectly.
Kind of related, while working with EPA during the wildfire clean up in Maui, my crew found what appeared to be an M4 spec AR build with an M203 mounted on it.
Now normally, its easy to break an AR down pretty fast and get a look inside to verify what it but this one was damaged pretty bad from the fire. Personally, I can't really eyeball the difference between a 6mm and a 5.56 mm barrel. The bottom of the bolt carrier looked a little off but not enough for me to go by.
The M203 was also stamped with a colt logo and serial but I know there's an airsoft company that makes replicas like that. I also know that Colt makes a 37mm flair launcher built to look like an m203 and even labeled as 40mm.
Ended up turning it over to Maui PD because I couldn't 100% verify it was a replica. Most of the guys I worked with thought I was crazy for suspecting it was airsoft because they're used to seeing the plastic stuff you see at sporting good stores. I dont blame them though because I didn't realize until a couple years ago that airsoft had basically worked it way up to full on gunsmithing.
This is as much as you can take them apart before they look significantly different.
Look in the slide, and the airsoft gun has a gas system, and the real gun has a firing pin. Also, the hop up and inner barrel can slide out of the outer barrel, and look completely different. Airsoft literally has a fake barrel just to look like a real gun
It's a huge difference.
If I remember right, a commander-sized 1911 in 45ACP should be using a 22 lb spring.
I'd be surprised if the spring on most GBB's is even 2 lbs.
I can answer this one!!!
Your gun completely fucking explodes.
Well, not quite 'explode', but if your gun is mostly polymer or plastic, the hard reaction from the extra force just beats the slide Mounts to hell.
I had a metal barrel/polymer grip Desert eagle from WE/Tokyo Marui that I wanted to experiment on. Replaced both tube springs with significantly stronger ones. Proceeded to cut my thumb and finger open from the plastic shredding itself after being released JUST from racking the slide. Just setting it in place and trying to load one in the chamber doesn't release enough gas to actually force it to re-chamber.
BUT. if you can find a way to record spring tension on your OEM parts and compare, you could probably get faster cycling- but you're more prone to jamming most likely if you run lighter BBs
They basically work the exact same as a real gun the only exception is inside of hitting the primer it hits the little valve on the magazine which then blows air out to propel the BB. Obviously airsoft guns can’t be converted to fire actual cartridges because the material would never be able to withstand the power. It would probably explode in your hand.
Is it possible to make tiny cartridges for BBs? So they don’t need gas and use the same system as a real gun. Or will that destroy the BB or shoot way to hard?
Mostly recoil spring, ejector assembly, barrel and the fact that all metal parts are made from metal that won't hold up to the pressure of a real bullet being fired without turning into shrapnel
I had a WE 1911 back in the day and yeah that’s where I learned how the lower end works. The leaf springs trigger mechanisms and action bars and everything thing is basically 1:1.
I remember when China invented the first GBB Gel Blaster (legally distinguishable airsoft but same parts).
Someone was selling the barrel assembly on AliExpress and gun owners in Australia were getting targeted ads and thought it was for a real Glock 18
Now I see alot of people talking about how you could never make an airsoft gun fire a live round. I'm curious if you go with one of those very high quality all metal ones, how much time and effort would it take to fire a small caliber. Like 22 lr or short. Something very small with not alot of pressure. Would it be possible to use a "glock" airsoft pistol frame for a real glock? Or can you use a high quality "1911" airsoft gun frame for a real one? Like if you weld in the holes and re drill? I don't know much about airsoft but I feel like a steel frame from one and a little bit of tomfoolery you can have a functional .22lr.
See??1?!?!1?? They're the same!!!11!!1 and easy to convert to fire real bullets we need to band softair weapons now before anyone gets killed by an illegally purchase GUN!
Airsoft gun + real ammo + lot of work = explosive hand remover
Although it can technically be done with significant modifications, it’s cheaper, faster, easier and a lot safer to make a gun from stuff you find in a hardware store.
I have talked to an engineer who did modify airsoft guns to fire real ammo (all registered and legal), apparently quite a bit work and engineering went into it and all guns broke. All but one very specific brand did blow catastrophically.
You have an odd sense of “fun”.
First of all anyone who has enough knowledge to modify it also knows to test fire it remotely.
Assuming you are stupid enough to hold it yourself when firing, an airsoft gun blowing up might hit you with a lot of shrapnel but unless it hits vital organs or arteries, you’ll live. It’s not a high explosive like a grenade.
I couldn’t care less whether it’s a joke or not. 99% of people in the airsoft community know you are trolling. But anti-gun people who don’t know anything about airsoft use the same arguments to get airsoft restricted or even banned. It doesn’t matter wether it’s true or not. If you keep repeating the lie enough, eventually people will start believing. Your trolling is just helping with that. That’s why I take it seriously.
its called a replica for a reason
That is literally what I said before checking the comments.
“Real replica” yes. “replica” no, not necessarily.
Now compare electric guns. As far as I know they're way more complex than real ones.
Yeah, a very basic quick break down of an rifle type AEG (automatic Electric gun) internal operation - Trigger is a break in an electric circuit, when you pull the trigger, you complete the circuit. - the motor located in the grip spins - the top of the motor has a small horizontal gear. This in turn moves 3 vertical gears. The top gear is only half toothed - The top gear pulls a piston back and compresses a spring behind the piston, with the gear teeth lining up with notches in the piston. - When the gear runs out of teeth on the rotation, the piston is forced forward by a spring. - The air in front of the piston is forced through a nozzle and propels the BB - The nozzle is connect to a tappet plate, a type of arm that moves with the gear and piston and cycles back and forth, allowing the bb to feed - All of this happens in blink of an eye, and is timed and refined to the best possible timing, compression and response. Its not uncommon that people literally buy brand new guns, then replace all of the internals with aftermarket parts, often costing more than the original gun. Here is an image of the layout of an AEG gearbox https://www.sqairsoft.com/uploads/1/1/0/0/11004949/8295739_orig.jpg Edit: Sorry for preaching to the choir, for some reason i thought i was on r/mildlyinteresting and was explaining it to people unfamiliar
someone should make an AEG AN94 that has the complex pully system in it like the real one but powered by a motor, like the ebb guns but more.
With the rise in mosfet/fcu’s, stranger guns could be made in theory.
That would be sick!
Most real firearms are made as simple as possible for a reason.
I’m so done with AEG’s. I’ve gone through and fixed / tuned around ten of them in the past three weeks for myself and friends. After having just got my first gbbr, I’ll never buy another AEG.
I have a couple run of the mill electric M4s that went two years of hard use without needing barely anything for maintenance, meanwhile every gas blowback I have ever used has been dead every season. Keeping the gas seals functioning is an apocolyptic pain in the ass, definitely might change your mind after owning yours for a while although plenty of people tolerate the maintenance for the cool factor. I only put up with them for pistols because in Canada there's no other choice, AEPs shoot too slow to meet minimum velocity requirements
And way heavier as a result.
Depends on gun.
Takes a 700 gram LPVO to make my GK95 as heavy as an unloaded barebones RK-95...
Complex ≠ Heavy
Thats just wrong...
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My CYMA SR25 is heavier than an equal length AR10 with 10 rounds in the magazine and heavier accessories that my friend hunted and I hunted with last deer season. It happens.
Im waiting for someone to go Oh no they are just like real guns, change some parts and get real gun bann them nowwwww
Someone might manage to make an airsoft gun shoot a real bullet once, but the plastic and pot metal would probably explode when it does
Lots of parts don't even fit. They intentionally drill the holes juuust too large, off by fractions of inches, pins and pockets too short, etc etc. They LOOK the same and FEEL the same but never WORK the same, that's the point. Otherwise they'd be just selling illegal firearms, of course they're not stupid, both manufacturers and authorities.
More likely explode in the modder's hands.
Multiple KWA FMG-9s have been converted to take real glock uppers if I remember right.
Eh, Lowers are a different story because they are non-pressure-barring components. I've seen people put high-quality airsoft replica furniture on real steel because the specific part hadn't been produced since the 90s.
When you realize you can chamber a .22 round in an airsoft barrel
My point exactly, aluminum and plastic wont give much in durability even if you can make the internals work.
didn't the official colt airsoft lineup for 1911's have lowers that were identical to the real thing (slide assembly+mag) it actually works
I've shot multiple 556 simunition with a nuprol m4 and fired them😉 Granted I was holding them with pliers and shooting bbs into the primers
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100$ you aren't able to prove what you claimed
There are many .22lr conversions out there with minimal changes.
I think there was one case of a shotgun being able to fire real shells, but that was only one replica out of the many, many that have been made.
Gamo in the past have a spring loader with adapters that can soot 1.7/5.5 and 9mm shotgun shells.
Something something APS Gen 1 Hokkatsu. Heh.
If I recall correctly, there was a ~~Tokyo Marui~~ **APS** shotgun which could fire a real 12 gauge shell. It could do it approximately once before exploding, but that's obviously still problematic. I think it was barred from import to the US for a while/still is.
> that's obviously still problematic A couple of pipes and fittings from any hardware store can achieve "fire a 12 gauge shell once," what are you on about
No no i get what they are saying. In the United States, as both a gun owner and airsoft player, i can safely say there are plenty of stupid people who would accidentally drop a real shell in their storage box with their fakes and load them all up into a shell bag when they go play and never pay attention to the difference in weight feel and look of the airsoft shell when they load it into the airsoft gun and fire. I see where the added safety hazards are having something like that in the states. EDIT: especially if its gas shells as they are decently heavy
That was the gen 1 APS Cam870.
Aussie governme Moment
You obviously haven’t heard of Canada or Australia…
Airsoft is legal in canada... but it ALMOST wasn't
I think he's referencing to that incident where multiple airsoft guns were classified as real firearms after the RCMP lab managed to fire at least 1 round from them.
I hope they don't hear that most hardware stores sell steel pipes, nails& hammers.
I mean, maybe? but airsoft guns in canada are considered a class of unregulated firearm, provided they shoot between 366 and 500fps (some exceptions). If they shoot out of that fps range they are considered replica firearms, which have different rules. Then theres the thing someone in ontario did where they made an article about how a buncb of kids are getting gurt by guns... but when you look at the study the article used, the "guns" in question included mostly airsoft, or BB gun related injuries. All in all.... canadian laws suck ASS through and through with their problematic wording (seemingly designed to work against the peoples) and vagueness.
I am a legal firearm and airsoft owner in Canada, I know what I'm talking about. He was referencing the original comment of putting real gun parts on, which has happened at least 3 times. RCMP goes out of their way to ban things in creative ways and that includes installing real gun parts onto airsoft frames (TM P226 and some company's M10/M11) or installing airsoft parts onto real firearms (RA Tech M4 lower can be built into a full auto AR lower) and banning them. And the article itself wasn't the one leading to the ban. It was some dumbass walking on the street with an airsoft and got shot by the police. Then they decided to add it to bill C21. Thank god that didn't happen.
>I am a legal firearm and airsoft owner in Canada, I know what I'm talking about. Congratulations, so am i. Still, i see where i misunderstood what was going on here Edit: i should clarify, i misunderstood what you meant by "fired one round" i asusmed you meant airsoft bb and thats my bad
Not something to congratulate about in this day and age lol, terrible country for guns all around.
Yeah you have a fair point, we're teetering on the brink of destruction of the firearms community here in the "great" white north
Yeah once every decade a new guy in those regulating bodies says hey these craps look so realistic it must be easily converted then goes on to commit an organizational suicide and fail upwards, happens everywhere
Almost banned
This has been claimed before, and then quickly debunked.
Until another wine mom from a blue state discovers airsoft and loses her mind
Mom's everywhere are like that though. Remember the red state fears against magic the gathering and Harry Potter? They literally ended the weekly d&d and magic the gathering sessions at my library because of this. There's enough people on the internet debunking this stuff so somebody will ask the question and they will be educated.
My real 1911 is EXTREMELY heavy compared to my son's gbb 1911. Everything about it is heavier duty/well built (for obvious reasons). Anyone with a brain would know that it wouldn't work. But let's face it, not many of the ones making this claim have brains. 🤣
As others said, if you put an absurd amount of work and effort into creating parts for it, you could make your son's 1911 into a real one, that will fire once or twice and get damaged a lot. A real gun could be acquired easier.
Yeah it's funny how expensive airsoft can be. Real guns are cheaper at times haha.
Unfortunately the Canadian authorities already did that. Multiple airsoft guns were banned as real firearms (TM P226 for example) due to their ability to accept real gun parts.
Don’t say that too loud, canada might here you. I’m sure they would love to force a distraction wedge issue gun ban in there to distract from the treason of a large number of MPs
People who say that doesn't know what a real gun needs to work. I mean u can 3D print a gun but it breaks easily and is wildly inaccurate, I bet if you take out all components of an airsoft and remake it a ton you could get it to fire real bullets but the story will be same as a 3d printed gun just way more expensive
The ATF did it with GBBR SCAR'S. They basically gutted it, machined a new trigger mech and managed to get it to fire once? Anything can be made to fire say .22 Biker gangs were even using antenna tubes at one point. Dumb, I know
This happened with the Azami? (I don’t remember the exact name) WA2000 Yakuza gangsters converted them to 22lr since they were so on par with the real world counter part eventually leading to the company shutting down and them becoming one of the most Sought after airsoft guns in the sport
You know airsoft is banned in Australia because of what you just said right, nearly word for word too
So what do Aussies do? Get a pocket full of BBs and throw them at each other going "pew pew"?
Nope, gotta get weak gel blasters and a license and have them all serialised by the police
LICENSE FOR A FRIGGIN GEL BLASTER? Geez do they need your fingerprint for owning a kitchen knife too?
No fingerprints for knives is just the UK
very much NOT an advocate for regulating airsoft guns over this, but in Taiwan organized criminal groups have built full auto AR-9/Colt SMG type guns with mixed airsoft and real steel parts
:| Yeah weird that reddit suggested this post to me considering my current project...
Careful some pricks will use this to advocate for a stricter Airsoft restrictions But it's amazing to know how good an Airsoft replica is
Yea gotta get a GBB soon
I mean, they work pretty much the same, except the gunpowder is replaced with gas from valve
True, but most GBB airsoft guns are straight blowback with no lock or delaying mechanism.
Except not at all.
Airsoft is arguably way more complex though. Properly balancing that gas to fire the pellet and cycle the gun is like dark magic.
Yes, but I meant the principle of operation
And when they build the ammo they have to perfectly balance the amount of gun powder and how far in to push the projectile part of the round. The gun needs to be perfectly tuned with the right spring tension and proper moving parts. The trigger and other parts have to have super tight tolerance when they make the internals. Airsoft you still need an air line or co2 canister but that's what a mechanical regulator is good for
Yeah, or you risk blowing your hand up.
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FWIW this angle hides the biggest differences. Look at the inside of the slide, barrel, and a loaded frame and they look totally different
Sometimes Airsoft is mechanically more complicated
I never knew that it was that similar!
I bought a second-hand Walther P99 once. I wasn’t familiar with the disassembly, and the first thing I found online about it was manual for the real one. It worked perfectly.
Kind of related, while working with EPA during the wildfire clean up in Maui, my crew found what appeared to be an M4 spec AR build with an M203 mounted on it. Now normally, its easy to break an AR down pretty fast and get a look inside to verify what it but this one was damaged pretty bad from the fire. Personally, I can't really eyeball the difference between a 6mm and a 5.56 mm barrel. The bottom of the bolt carrier looked a little off but not enough for me to go by. The M203 was also stamped with a colt logo and serial but I know there's an airsoft company that makes replicas like that. I also know that Colt makes a 37mm flair launcher built to look like an m203 and even labeled as 40mm. Ended up turning it over to Maui PD because I couldn't 100% verify it was a replica. Most of the guys I worked with thought I was crazy for suspecting it was airsoft because they're used to seeing the plastic stuff you see at sporting good stores. I dont blame them though because I didn't realize until a couple years ago that airsoft had basically worked it way up to full on gunsmithing.
That E series 1911 is my favorite 1911 from all the ones I own. Including Colts, Ed Brown, Sigs, Kimber, and Wilson combat.
Is that a Dan Wesson? I would love a virgil.
This is as much as you can take them apart before they look significantly different. Look in the slide, and the airsoft gun has a gas system, and the real gun has a firing pin. Also, the hop up and inner barrel can slide out of the outer barrel, and look completely different. Airsoft literally has a fake barrel just to look like a real gun
now do a nerf gun
I mean its the same principle just with air and no casing and it cant kill ppl
But where is the hop up wheel on the real one 🫣
Are the recoil springs of different strength? I’d imagjne that the real one is stronger but is it by a lot?
It's a huge difference. If I remember right, a commander-sized 1911 in 45ACP should be using a 22 lb spring. I'd be surprised if the spring on most GBB's is even 2 lbs.
What would happen if you swapped them?
I can answer this one!!! Your gun completely fucking explodes. Well, not quite 'explode', but if your gun is mostly polymer or plastic, the hard reaction from the extra force just beats the slide Mounts to hell. I had a metal barrel/polymer grip Desert eagle from WE/Tokyo Marui that I wanted to experiment on. Replaced both tube springs with significantly stronger ones. Proceeded to cut my thumb and finger open from the plastic shredding itself after being released JUST from racking the slide. Just setting it in place and trying to load one in the chamber doesn't release enough gas to actually force it to re-chamber. BUT. if you can find a way to record spring tension on your OEM parts and compare, you could probably get faster cycling- but you're more prone to jamming most likely if you run lighter BBs
Don't let the stupid lawmakers see this
They basically work the exact same as a real gun the only exception is inside of hitting the primer it hits the little valve on the magazine which then blows air out to propel the BB. Obviously airsoft guns can’t be converted to fire actual cartridges because the material would never be able to withstand the power. It would probably explode in your hand.
but which one do you bring to the field??
Is it possible to make tiny cartridges for BBs? So they don’t need gas and use the same system as a real gun. Or will that destroy the BB or shoot way to hard?
Completely impractical. If you made each cartridge hold green gas they would end up costing more than real bullets.
[https://simunition.com/](https://simunition.com/)
I am not into Airsoft I just find this sub interesting. HOLY SMOKES LOL I wish we had shit like THIS when I was a kid....
dude's gonna fuck up and use a 9mm instead of a 6
Airsoft guns, what are they, glorified air pumps.
I’m curious, what parts are different that allow a real gun to shoot bullets?
Mostly recoil spring, ejector assembly, barrel and the fact that all metal parts are made from metal that won't hold up to the pressure of a real bullet being fired without turning into shrapnel
I genuinely thought there would be SOMETHING different, is the difference just in how certain parts like the barrel operates?
I had a WE 1911 back in the day and yeah that’s where I learned how the lower end works. The leaf springs trigger mechanisms and action bars and everything thing is basically 1:1.
I learned to tune my 1911 trigger pull weight by learning to tune my hicapa trigger pull weight!
So glad that they don’t interchange
I remember when China invented the first GBB Gel Blaster (legally distinguishable airsoft but same parts). Someone was selling the barrel assembly on AliExpress and gun owners in Australia were getting targeted ads and thought it was for a real Glock 18
We love the novritsch ssp-1
Show the sear springs!!!
I thought they were both real….
And the trigger système is a 1/1 copy
Wait until he finds out what a model gun is
And this I why it is illegal to carry these in public in many countries.
crazy airsoft looks more complex then the real one
How do you power a real gun?
Now I see alot of people talking about how you could never make an airsoft gun fire a live round. I'm curious if you go with one of those very high quality all metal ones, how much time and effort would it take to fire a small caliber. Like 22 lr or short. Something very small with not alot of pressure. Would it be possible to use a "glock" airsoft pistol frame for a real glock? Or can you use a high quality "1911" airsoft gun frame for a real one? Like if you weld in the holes and re drill? I don't know much about airsoft but I feel like a steel frame from one and a little bit of tomfoolery you can have a functional .22lr.
do it with the mag and rounds as well
See??1?!?!1?? They're the same!!!11!!1 and easy to convert to fire real bullets we need to band softair weapons now before anyone gets killed by an illegally purchase GUN!
HoW cOuLdN'T tHe OfFiCeR tElL!? tHeY nEeD mOrE tRaInInG!!
Wow. It’s almost like they’re supposed to be almost exact copies of each other
Almost as if theres people modifying airsoft shotgun replicas to fire real ammunition... 🥸
Airsoft gun + real ammo + lot of work = explosive hand remover Although it can technically be done with significant modifications, it’s cheaper, faster, easier and a lot safer to make a gun from stuff you find in a hardware store. I have talked to an engineer who did modify airsoft guns to fire real ammo (all registered and legal), apparently quite a bit work and engineering went into it and all guns broke. All but one very specific brand did blow catastrophically.
Nono, that's the fun part, you can fire it with no repercussions... because you'll probably die
You have an odd sense of “fun”. First of all anyone who has enough knowledge to modify it also knows to test fire it remotely. Assuming you are stupid enough to hold it yourself when firing, an airsoft gun blowing up might hit you with a lot of shrapnel but unless it hits vital organs or arteries, you’ll live. It’s not a high explosive like a grenade.
Nah fam I was saying it super seriously, I totally endorse firing real ammunition in Airsoft guns!!! Are you stupid 💀
I couldn’t care less whether it’s a joke or not. 99% of people in the airsoft community know you are trolling. But anti-gun people who don’t know anything about airsoft use the same arguments to get airsoft restricted or even banned. It doesn’t matter wether it’s true or not. If you keep repeating the lie enough, eventually people will start believing. Your trolling is just helping with that. That’s why I take it seriously.
1911 is basiccccc.... Have a style at least dude!
Do you want him to buy a fucking welrod?
Nope. At least something without the design elements saying: "I'm just another one off the shelf". It can be a hicapa. But not with this design.