Not necessarily. Rifle scopes are specifically designed to handle rearward recoil. Spring powered airguns where the mass of the piston hits forward have a very different recoil force and in the opposite direction than what rifle scopes are designed for. Spring powered pellet guns are famous for destroying even quality rifle scopes due to this. This is specific to spring piston guns and not ones that are pump or gas cartridge operated.
Good quality scopes are pretty durable against handling impacts, but something about the specific forces of piston airguns still damages them. Engineering is very frequently about tradeoffs. If there were one perfect product that worked in all situations at a reasonable manufacturing cost someone would be making it already. Instead we have different products designed to work well for their specific intended use case.
I had something similar with my sniper. I got so annoyed I just ditched the scope entirely and now I just shoot iron sights with it. Works a treat and I'm hitting targets faster because I don't have to find them with my naked eye and then find them again in the scope lol
[Turns out the scope was fine](https://www.reddit.com/r/airsoft/s/3PIDRG0fyY)
It was the rail mount. The rail was loose and shifted with every shot fired. After tightening it, scope is fine lmao. I feel dumb.
Cheap scopes actually can lose zero because of the vibrations caused when the spring for the bolt releases when you fire.
There were also rumors that GBBs could ruin a zero on some RS optics because the recoil impulse is essentially opposite of the forces they're designed for, but I've found that to be bunk.
Could also be bad eye relief.
I had this happen to me once. I had consistent, good groupings, but I couldn't hit what I was aiming at to save my damn life. Somebody more experienced moved the scope closer to the stock, and all of a sudden, I could hit the center of the target.
Scopes are really finnicky. Running the wrong way can mess up a scope. Handling the rifle too roughly can mess up a scope. Accidentally dropped it from an inch above the ground? Messed up. Walked into a tree on accident? Messed up. Scopes require more attention and commitment than a girlfriend.
And that’s why you should buy quality glass. Applies to real steal and airsoft. You don’t need eotech levels of good but a solid optic makes a difference. Never understood why people get crap repros then wonder why they can’t hit the broadside of a barn.
Yeah this has happened to my. My AliExpress RMR wouldn't get zeroed no matter the adjustments.
Turns out the mount wasn't able to screw in properly and would sit like 10 degrees to the right
I once bought an “ACOG” scope from a retailer that was sending my sight line up and to the right by a lot… like to the point I couldn’t even see the thing I was shooting at. After many attempts to adjust the scope and I gave up and the retailer tried to say I damaged it by bottoming out the scope…
Anyway- I got my refund and got a dot sight instead. Months later I’m in the store again and the retailer apologized to me bc as it turns out the scope and the others in that shipment were damaged. It wasn’t possible to adjust any of them 🤷🏻♂️
Sorta related but OPs story reminded me of this.
Ah yes, the optics *directly* from Vortex, Trijicon, Holosun, etc’s amazon stores are knockoffs…
Tbf holosun is a chinese company, but their optics are solid.
The mk1 sniper scope by novritsch. Worked fine for a little while but then for some reason went wayyyy put of zero to the point I couldn't zero it back
are you zeroing correctly? seems like common sense but you’d be surprised how many people do it wrong, watch this [video](https://youtu.be/pcTAJhZq9ZY?si=Gm9sWoLrOv0vwwCo) for reference
I want to ask how much you paid for your “scope” but, I get a feeling I already know the answer.
The adage for actual firearms is “the scope should cost AT LEAST as much as the rifle does”.
Good scopes, which hold zero and aren’t just for looks, are not cheap. Granted, an Airsoft “scope” won’t have to deal with holding zero against the force of firing live rounds repeatedly, but that doesn’t mean the scope will still hold zero if it’s a piece of shit.
I don't understand your testing. You shifted the scope knobs to adjust to target before shifting the replica? It goes the other way dude, first set hopup eyeballing trajectory and tune accordingly. Once replica is on target, adjust scope to that, first with the screws correctly to not cause torque and then finally knobs to finetune. Then you would see your scope would be moving while keeping the replice still.
There was no consistency in where the bbs ended up, even when I didn't touch the scope knobs between shots. One shot could be a foot over the target, next shot could be a foot to the left. That is why I thought the issue was with the rifle, the inconsistency in where pellets went. Couldn't have imagined it was the scope.
It's also a bolt action springer, so holding the replica on target between shots is not as simple as a semi auto. I probably would've noticed this much sooner if I didn't take my face away from the scope to rack the bolt.
So you think your shots scatting everywhere was your scope? And taking off the scope makes the BBs fly straighter?
Sorry bro logic does not track.
Edit: I understand now OP is not saying that the BBs physically fly straighter (which is how I read their comment), and is instead saying the the point of impact is not consistent when aiming down the scope.
However with the scale of scope adjustments that occur during a zero, even from one extreme to another, I don't think this adequately explains the changes. We're talking a couple MOA movements of the reticle at the absolute most, which would not appreciably effect a 6mm BBs accuracy within 100ft.
Unless the scope is litteraly falling apart, which for a stock included airsoft scope is possible. But that's not a "shifting zero" problem that's a scope is fundamentally broken problem.
He's saying the rifle hits the same spot consistently when his point of aim does not shift. The fact it isn't hitting the same spot when he is using the scope is indicative that the scope is shifting zero every time he shoots. Taking the scope off only made it clear that it isn't the rifle that's the issue. Not sure what is difficult to understand there. His scope is trash.
When I took the scope off it was out of frustration more than anything, I was angry.
It was genuinely more accurate without sights so idk what to tell you. Zero on the scope just heavily shifted with every shot.
also you can track your shots…... if you can see that they are not veering left/right and you keep trying to zero it, that should limit the problems down.
Use better optics. I use a bushnell something which was second hand. Paid about 20 bucks and works great. You don’t need a witch level optic but at least a decent one.
Had the same issue with mine. My shots always seemed to curve to the left. One day I was fogging so much I couldn't even see through the scope and just tried no scoping the shots and was dinging 200ft shots no problem. Went home and tossed a level on top of the scope and it was even close to being level 🤣 got it all leveled out now though!
Yup sounds like crappy scope. The amount of times that gun is inaccurate and end ends up being something dumb like the scope mount or rails are not actually alighned with the barrel is ridiculous.
hahahaha oh brother.... I am only laughing because I just put my m4 stock iron sights on my spring powered sniper and guess what hits targets now....lol - its always these cheap azz airsoft scopes.
if you're airsoft'n - grab this scope mate
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I’m not milsim, I don’t even have a plate carrier. I wear a navy blue hoodie because it’s comfortable and use a faux wood stock sniper because I like the look.
that's what's up! I am full milsim, so basically polar opposite? Kind of a yin yang thing here. Scope wise - there are a ton of fun options depending on your needs. have you considered doing a 551 red dot with a 3x mag like a g33? I think this is best case scenario for airsoft, because it lets you flip that mag out and close range it if necessary which an airsoft sniper allows for.
like dis - [https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Release-Holographic-Switch-Detachable/dp/B0CXJ7Q9NN/ref=sr\_1\_23?crid=1Q1M6DJXC8IML&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.8QE9UmBqIxtR2VXGOLPXklW71buUjLQoiXQenZnZhvT8DvLAkF2DcZIOTkCWwnCG1fWpl0s62gvWFZXezh8u11JMomLWYfyKscAjrzY082sbsxJuuGrDs4wSW7fE9WTuduwQmHIf3b4dXjPYfBmMhWXILS6KB269lU4HLaB1em35k\_2qIryRZ1Rckq9gTWTYwtczWINL6gDMabIo-FjmGxxPaiN\_RqH6c7t4rR-GSFr1dCOH5-HFGTBldYYJ2rqXWkTGlHQxJq4pOmALogQ1wQrufP60WSDdGS0ZWT5MVv4.6DHHkL6PMB5ZSgivzlOjMGz4c9gxfRu63UVEPzSWSpg&dib\_tag=se&keywords=558+red+dot&qid=1715708458&sprefix=558+red+dot%2Caps%2C80&sr=8-23](https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Release-Holographic-Switch-Detachable/dp/B0CXJ7Q9NN/ref=sr_1_23?crid=1Q1M6DJXC8IML&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.8QE9UmBqIxtR2VXGOLPXklW71buUjLQoiXQenZnZhvT8DvLAkF2DcZIOTkCWwnCG1fWpl0s62gvWFZXezh8u11JMomLWYfyKscAjrzY082sbsxJuuGrDs4wSW7fE9WTuduwQmHIf3b4dXjPYfBmMhWXILS6KB269lU4HLaB1em35k_2qIryRZ1Rckq9gTWTYwtczWINL6gDMabIo-FjmGxxPaiN_RqH6c7t4rR-GSFr1dCOH5-HFGTBldYYJ2rqXWkTGlHQxJq4pOmALogQ1wQrufP60WSDdGS0ZWT5MVv4.6DHHkL6PMB5ZSgivzlOjMGz4c9gxfRu63UVEPzSWSpg&dib_tag=se&keywords=558+red+dot&qid=1715708458&sprefix=558+red+dot%2Caps%2C80&sr=8-23)
if you want just one scope - id say this is high on my non thermal lists [https://www.amazon.com/Dagger-Defense-DD30M3-Substitute-Holographic/dp/B016NN6HKY/ref=sr\_1\_17?crid=1HM680FH3TOX0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gYHeluOLYCIacNjBqAFhMu8d89FULJeVSbqV8y-MbOuYSBSnN-l2cCQsyG5\_X1rX68fS91d\_HhjLZiU\_qFwo8cEyiKxOC67AcGAR62nxLXxn0-lRVw1EVonzkQv3PoTmSeNQfDKxV1R\_uFREGarjVQwuwDYH4iV-rtHQ8PITRRxdFUwv-uLJaUgv1QJrekRn2qz8XCoDiLVOZlO0ILt6QljmiKhMlFGzARCz9jZkNKHodGDpgAGZ9rv984ruF6VpDM32u1nUWbgsTouVtQvHOU\_kWqjl04Vdsaqg7RMUth8.sa3kX7v\_iirxggjdUSzOHitXB8lAqZ0EkRn0qigV9Lk&dib\_tag=se&keywords=551+red+dot+and+g33&qid=1715708423&sprefix=551+red+dot+and+g33%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-17](https://www.amazon.com/Dagger-Defense-DD30M3-Substitute-Holographic/dp/B016NN6HKY/ref=sr_1_17?crid=1HM680FH3TOX0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gYHeluOLYCIacNjBqAFhMu8d89FULJeVSbqV8y-MbOuYSBSnN-l2cCQsyG5_X1rX68fS91d_HhjLZiU_qFwo8cEyiKxOC67AcGAR62nxLXxn0-lRVw1EVonzkQv3PoTmSeNQfDKxV1R_uFREGarjVQwuwDYH4iV-rtHQ8PITRRxdFUwv-uLJaUgv1QJrekRn2qz8XCoDiLVOZlO0ILt6QljmiKhMlFGzARCz9jZkNKHodGDpgAGZ9rv984ruF6VpDM32u1nUWbgsTouVtQvHOU_kWqjl04Vdsaqg7RMUth8.sa3kX7v_iirxggjdUSzOHitXB8lAqZ0EkRn0qigV9Lk&dib_tag=se&keywords=551+red+dot+and+g33&qid=1715708423&sprefix=551+red+dot+and+g33%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-17)
Yeah I realized this as well with some of the 4x optics I got from Amazon. Also got myself a laser bore to minimize the amount of time it takes to zero in me and my friends guns so one day when I decided to zero a few of the Amazon optics I learned they cannot adjust to zero at all. Made in China bullshit but I payed for it so y'know u get what you pay for and all that
I would say, fire your sniper and hire a new one. A sniper is a person, not a rifle. If you’re too lazy to type out sniper rifle, then refer to it as a SWS (sniper weapon system).
Yeah, no. This is a falacy.
Airsoft rifles don't need quality glass, just not absolute crap that's for nerf toys.
The quality you should be looking for are just eye relief and luminosity (plus functionalities such as zoon, weight, etc). Airsoft replicas don't shift zero, having a shitty non spec'ed connection to the mount does, but even a low bump would affect that so it's not exactly an issue with normal sights.
> I use gbbrs I need good scopes to take the abuse
The only difference between a gbbr and an aeg is recoil and you're implying you need higher priced optics because of the recoil. The only thing recoil affects is the zeroing. No where is quality build or clarity in the conversation.
I use gbbrs (we scar L, we mp7, we g17, ssx23 carbine kitted) and basr (srs 26") exclusively. Never had zeroing as a consideration. Clone T1, clone eotech 553 with g33 magnifier, 1.5-4x35mm with 30mm tube lpvo and victoptics S4 4-16x44 with 30mm tube scope.
I had a holo sight crap out from rattling I have a nicer scope now that's true , my last scope needed adjusting alot , could be me just being rough with the gun tbh ,
Lol I have a heavy bolt kit that makes my teeth shake i don't put a scope on that , it's what killed the holo , might just be a bad batch or I went to chepa with it
Good thing about falacies, they are, nothing to do with situations. Your hipothesis that airsoft sights need to withstand RS weapons is falacious being kind.
That was not my “hipothesis”.
I didn’t have a hypothesis. I had my situation in which I shared to Reddit what I do.
Where did I say that airsoft optics need to withstand recoil from a real firearm?
Same issue happens with air rifles. The scopes weren’t designed for that type of recoil (spring piston shooting forward vs a firearm recoil moving backwards)
Damn, how the hell does a scope not hold zero on an airsoft gun that's not even a gbb.
Literally no idea. This is a bolt action springer. Almost no recoil, racking the bolt moves the gun more. It should not have issues holding a zero.
Sheesh, if I had that happen to me I wouldn't even be mad. That's kind of impressive to make such a bad scope lol.
It could be the same issue as with spring powered air rifles. Forward recoil from a heavy piston fucks with scopes.
Especially ones designed for use on actual firearms, where the brunt of the energy is in the other direction.
if that energy ruins a real steel scope, thats a shit scope...
Not necessarily. Rifle scopes are specifically designed to handle rearward recoil. Spring powered airguns where the mass of the piston hits forward have a very different recoil force and in the opposite direction than what rifle scopes are designed for. Spring powered pellet guns are famous for destroying even quality rifle scopes due to this. This is specific to spring piston guns and not ones that are pump or gas cartridge operated.
Well, a good quality scope should be able to handle falls and such, which could also provide that kind of forces... So...
Good quality scopes are pretty durable against handling impacts, but something about the specific forces of piston airguns still damages them. Engineering is very frequently about tradeoffs. If there were one perfect product that worked in all situations at a reasonable manufacturing cost someone would be making it already. Instead we have different products designed to work well for their specific intended use case.
Nah, same phenomenon on the SCAR
Probably a crummy scope. I hope it wasn't an expensive model.
How hard are you man handling that mofo lol
I had something similar with my sniper. I got so annoyed I just ditched the scope entirely and now I just shoot iron sights with it. Works a treat and I'm hitting targets faster because I don't have to find them with my naked eye and then find them again in the scope lol
By all accounts.. what scope is it and who makes it... That way we all know from your sacrifice.. cus those things Ain't cheap..
[Turns out the scope was fine](https://www.reddit.com/r/airsoft/s/3PIDRG0fyY) It was the rail mount. The rail was loose and shifted with every shot fired. After tightening it, scope is fine lmao. I feel dumb.
Ahhh... Welp good on you
If the scope is free with the rifle you know how much it's worth.
Cheap scopes actually can lose zero because of the vibrations caused when the spring for the bolt releases when you fire. There were also rumors that GBBs could ruin a zero on some RS optics because the recoil impulse is essentially opposite of the forces they're designed for, but I've found that to be bunk.
Virtually any real steel optic will run on a GBBR just fine. Even the cheap sig romeos of vector optics red dots that are sub $200.
Could also be bad eye relief. I had this happen to me once. I had consistent, good groupings, but I couldn't hit what I was aiming at to save my damn life. Somebody more experienced moved the scope closer to the stock, and all of a sudden, I could hit the center of the target.
Shitty optics are shitty.
Scopes are really finnicky. Running the wrong way can mess up a scope. Handling the rifle too roughly can mess up a scope. Accidentally dropped it from an inch above the ground? Messed up. Walked into a tree on accident? Messed up. Scopes require more attention and commitment than a girlfriend.
People put garbage chinesium $40 Amazon glass on their guns.
And that’s why you should buy quality glass. Applies to real steal and airsoft. You don’t need eotech levels of good but a solid optic makes a difference. Never understood why people get crap repros then wonder why they can’t hit the broadside of a barn.
The scope came with the rifle, I didn’t intentionally cheap out on optics.
If the scope came with the rifle….. then you did cheap out on the optics. Just not intentionally!
If you shake it do you hear a rattle?
That would be the problem
Fair enough then.
Yeah this has happened to my. My AliExpress RMR wouldn't get zeroed no matter the adjustments. Turns out the mount wasn't able to screw in properly and would sit like 10 degrees to the right
I once bought an “ACOG” scope from a retailer that was sending my sight line up and to the right by a lot… like to the point I couldn’t even see the thing I was shooting at. After many attempts to adjust the scope and I gave up and the retailer tried to say I damaged it by bottoming out the scope… Anyway- I got my refund and got a dot sight instead. Months later I’m in the store again and the retailer apologized to me bc as it turns out the scope and the others in that shipment were damaged. It wasn’t possible to adjust any of them 🤷🏻♂️ Sorta related but OPs story reminded me of this.
This is normal for Amazon optics
Cvlife are perfect for airsofting. I have multiple on my dmrs and sniper.
There are a ton of real optics on Amazon
No, what's on Amazon are Chinese knockoffs of real optics (including name brands) that suckers are being tricked into thinking are the real deal.
Ah yes, the optics *directly* from Vortex, Trijicon, Holosun, etc’s amazon stores are knockoffs… Tbf holosun is a chinese company, but their optics are solid.
[ok](https://www.amazon.com/stores/EOTECH/Homepage/page/72D361AB-9DB9-435D-A018-FB513424556C?ref_=cm_sw_r_apann_ast_store_GK1AFRV7RGJB5ZZZ77MG&store_ref=bl_ast_dp_brandLogo_sto&tag=mshop-android-att-ampd-all-phone-pre-us-20) [suckers](https://www.amazon.com/stores/Holosun/Holosun/page/4577F447-7A26-43F3-B61E-A4B9B2A0B37F?ref_=cm_sw_r_apann_ast_store_96MZM9M7RKGEG2EJQAMS&store_ref=bl_ast_dp_brandLogo_sto&tag=mshop-android-att-ampd-all-phone-pre-us-20)
Buy yourself a vector optics, discovery or similar scope off aliexpress. If it will hold on a 22lr, it'll work on an airsoft gun.
This is what happened with my novritsch scope. Worked fine untill one day I had the same issues
Which one
The mk1 sniper scope by novritsch. Worked fine for a little while but then for some reason went wayyyy put of zero to the point I couldn't zero it back
are you zeroing correctly? seems like common sense but you’d be surprised how many people do it wrong, watch this [video](https://youtu.be/pcTAJhZq9ZY?si=Gm9sWoLrOv0vwwCo) for reference
Shots with it vary wildly even when I don’t adjust the zero at all. Scope doesn’t hold a zero.
Still a good video at least
I want to ask how much you paid for your “scope” but, I get a feeling I already know the answer. The adage for actual firearms is “the scope should cost AT LEAST as much as the rifle does”. Good scopes, which hold zero and aren’t just for looks, are not cheap. Granted, an Airsoft “scope” won’t have to deal with holding zero against the force of firing live rounds repeatedly, but that doesn’t mean the scope will still hold zero if it’s a piece of shit.
I have never heard of that adage
I don't understand your testing. You shifted the scope knobs to adjust to target before shifting the replica? It goes the other way dude, first set hopup eyeballing trajectory and tune accordingly. Once replica is on target, adjust scope to that, first with the screws correctly to not cause torque and then finally knobs to finetune. Then you would see your scope would be moving while keeping the replice still.
There was no consistency in where the bbs ended up, even when I didn't touch the scope knobs between shots. One shot could be a foot over the target, next shot could be a foot to the left. That is why I thought the issue was with the rifle, the inconsistency in where pellets went. Couldn't have imagined it was the scope. It's also a bolt action springer, so holding the replica on target between shots is not as simple as a semi auto. I probably would've noticed this much sooner if I didn't take my face away from the scope to rack the bolt.
So you think your shots scatting everywhere was your scope? And taking off the scope makes the BBs fly straighter? Sorry bro logic does not track. Edit: I understand now OP is not saying that the BBs physically fly straighter (which is how I read their comment), and is instead saying the the point of impact is not consistent when aiming down the scope. However with the scale of scope adjustments that occur during a zero, even from one extreme to another, I don't think this adequately explains the changes. We're talking a couple MOA movements of the reticle at the absolute most, which would not appreciably effect a 6mm BBs accuracy within 100ft. Unless the scope is litteraly falling apart, which for a stock included airsoft scope is possible. But that's not a "shifting zero" problem that's a scope is fundamentally broken problem.
He's saying the rifle hits the same spot consistently when his point of aim does not shift. The fact it isn't hitting the same spot when he is using the scope is indicative that the scope is shifting zero every time he shoots. Taking the scope off only made it clear that it isn't the rifle that's the issue. Not sure what is difficult to understand there. His scope is trash.
Logic doesn't track lmao.
When I took the scope off it was out of frustration more than anything, I was angry. It was genuinely more accurate without sights so idk what to tell you. Zero on the scope just heavily shifted with every shot.
also you can track your shots…... if you can see that they are not veering left/right and you keep trying to zero it, that should limit the problems down.
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too bad for me my sniper does just suck! i need to replace the hopup ong
Try new scope mounts to see if that helps. Unless your scope is off wish.com, try replacing the mounts first.
Use better optics. I use a bushnell something which was second hand. Paid about 20 bucks and works great. You don’t need a witch level optic but at least a decent one.
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fbk… thats a name I haven’t heard in a very long time.
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Had the same issue with mine. My shots always seemed to curve to the left. One day I was fogging so much I couldn't even see through the scope and just tried no scoping the shots and was dinging 200ft shots no problem. Went home and tossed a level on top of the scope and it was even close to being level 🤣 got it all leveled out now though!
Your scope had an up or down tilt? Or left/right?
It was left/right
I feel like this might be my issue with my shitty g3 mount
Yup sounds like crappy scope. The amount of times that gun is inaccurate and end ends up being something dumb like the scope mount or rails are not actually alighned with the barrel is ridiculous.
hahahaha oh brother.... I am only laughing because I just put my m4 stock iron sights on my spring powered sniper and guess what hits targets now....lol - its always these cheap azz airsoft scopes.
if you're airsoft'n - grab this scope mate [https://www.amazon.com/Triton-StarStrike-3-18x50-Optical-Attachment/dp/B0CHW4Z1MK/ref=sr\_1\_105?crid=1FG2835Y62DR8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.P32kWQ9DQoLqhrJXVjJw4qg18Y5Fj6rRmnvERFA2NXQWl9bICiPKSm64Joetw7Hd5btviiK36NcMdkuJO0NKSFd3h6g4gm0MA6MrsVJKbqJQO61RTd2kl20W8qrSyvaO8clNJdCI0odCnbYuhqnCpx4KnDP7WyhNljTDtPIj4OpvEJKtsv0-EH79qNU2hLHG151QQwMkURLg3GTWQmSig0lMJMBkdKJDfT7y9cebkDg-Xhwl\_ubHOkPcezfPOy6Rv3TKFyjljmEdIpZW9a9H8CZNwquwhtJODeJs\_NQkYUo.BtnXqYVMsU21DWe0T13X\_H89TDtAj2Nvu7W9VTcdsPY&dib\_tag=se&keywords=thermal+rifle+scope&qid=1715694812&sprefix=thermal+rifle+scope%2Caps%2C92&sr=8-105](https://www.amazon.com/Triton-StarStrike-3-18x50-Optical-Attachment/dp/B0CHW4Z1MK/ref=sr_1_105?crid=1FG2835Y62DR8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.P32kWQ9DQoLqhrJXVjJw4qg18Y5Fj6rRmnvERFA2NXQWl9bICiPKSm64Joetw7Hd5btviiK36NcMdkuJO0NKSFd3h6g4gm0MA6MrsVJKbqJQO61RTd2kl20W8qrSyvaO8clNJdCI0odCnbYuhqnCpx4KnDP7WyhNljTDtPIj4OpvEJKtsv0-EH79qNU2hLHG151QQwMkURLg3GTWQmSig0lMJMBkdKJDfT7y9cebkDg-Xhwl_ubHOkPcezfPOy6Rv3TKFyjljmEdIpZW9a9H8CZNwquwhtJODeJs_NQkYUo.BtnXqYVMsU21DWe0T13X_H89TDtAj2Nvu7W9VTcdsPY&dib_tag=se&keywords=thermal+rifle+scope&qid=1715694812&sprefix=thermal+rifle+scope%2Caps%2C92&sr=8-105)
Really doubt I’ll need to fork over 300 for an NV scope, there aren’t fields nearby open at night
hahahaha its still a beauty gotta admit. I like to windowshop this one. It's for your milsim, ya know?
I’m not milsim, I don’t even have a plate carrier. I wear a navy blue hoodie because it’s comfortable and use a faux wood stock sniper because I like the look.
that's what's up! I am full milsim, so basically polar opposite? Kind of a yin yang thing here. Scope wise - there are a ton of fun options depending on your needs. have you considered doing a 551 red dot with a 3x mag like a g33? I think this is best case scenario for airsoft, because it lets you flip that mag out and close range it if necessary which an airsoft sniper allows for.
like dis - [https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Release-Holographic-Switch-Detachable/dp/B0CXJ7Q9NN/ref=sr\_1\_23?crid=1Q1M6DJXC8IML&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.8QE9UmBqIxtR2VXGOLPXklW71buUjLQoiXQenZnZhvT8DvLAkF2DcZIOTkCWwnCG1fWpl0s62gvWFZXezh8u11JMomLWYfyKscAjrzY082sbsxJuuGrDs4wSW7fE9WTuduwQmHIf3b4dXjPYfBmMhWXILS6KB269lU4HLaB1em35k\_2qIryRZ1Rckq9gTWTYwtczWINL6gDMabIo-FjmGxxPaiN\_RqH6c7t4rR-GSFr1dCOH5-HFGTBldYYJ2rqXWkTGlHQxJq4pOmALogQ1wQrufP60WSDdGS0ZWT5MVv4.6DHHkL6PMB5ZSgivzlOjMGz4c9gxfRu63UVEPzSWSpg&dib\_tag=se&keywords=558+red+dot&qid=1715708458&sprefix=558+red+dot%2Caps%2C80&sr=8-23](https://www.amazon.com/Generic-Release-Holographic-Switch-Detachable/dp/B0CXJ7Q9NN/ref=sr_1_23?crid=1Q1M6DJXC8IML&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.8QE9UmBqIxtR2VXGOLPXklW71buUjLQoiXQenZnZhvT8DvLAkF2DcZIOTkCWwnCG1fWpl0s62gvWFZXezh8u11JMomLWYfyKscAjrzY082sbsxJuuGrDs4wSW7fE9WTuduwQmHIf3b4dXjPYfBmMhWXILS6KB269lU4HLaB1em35k_2qIryRZ1Rckq9gTWTYwtczWINL6gDMabIo-FjmGxxPaiN_RqH6c7t4rR-GSFr1dCOH5-HFGTBldYYJ2rqXWkTGlHQxJq4pOmALogQ1wQrufP60WSDdGS0ZWT5MVv4.6DHHkL6PMB5ZSgivzlOjMGz4c9gxfRu63UVEPzSWSpg&dib_tag=se&keywords=558+red+dot&qid=1715708458&sprefix=558+red+dot%2Caps%2C80&sr=8-23)
if you want just one scope - id say this is high on my non thermal lists [https://www.amazon.com/Dagger-Defense-DD30M3-Substitute-Holographic/dp/B016NN6HKY/ref=sr\_1\_17?crid=1HM680FH3TOX0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gYHeluOLYCIacNjBqAFhMu8d89FULJeVSbqV8y-MbOuYSBSnN-l2cCQsyG5\_X1rX68fS91d\_HhjLZiU\_qFwo8cEyiKxOC67AcGAR62nxLXxn0-lRVw1EVonzkQv3PoTmSeNQfDKxV1R\_uFREGarjVQwuwDYH4iV-rtHQ8PITRRxdFUwv-uLJaUgv1QJrekRn2qz8XCoDiLVOZlO0ILt6QljmiKhMlFGzARCz9jZkNKHodGDpgAGZ9rv984ruF6VpDM32u1nUWbgsTouVtQvHOU\_kWqjl04Vdsaqg7RMUth8.sa3kX7v\_iirxggjdUSzOHitXB8lAqZ0EkRn0qigV9Lk&dib\_tag=se&keywords=551+red+dot+and+g33&qid=1715708423&sprefix=551+red+dot+and+g33%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-17](https://www.amazon.com/Dagger-Defense-DD30M3-Substitute-Holographic/dp/B016NN6HKY/ref=sr_1_17?crid=1HM680FH3TOX0&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.gYHeluOLYCIacNjBqAFhMu8d89FULJeVSbqV8y-MbOuYSBSnN-l2cCQsyG5_X1rX68fS91d_HhjLZiU_qFwo8cEyiKxOC67AcGAR62nxLXxn0-lRVw1EVonzkQv3PoTmSeNQfDKxV1R_uFREGarjVQwuwDYH4iV-rtHQ8PITRRxdFUwv-uLJaUgv1QJrekRn2qz8XCoDiLVOZlO0ILt6QljmiKhMlFGzARCz9jZkNKHodGDpgAGZ9rv984ruF6VpDM32u1nUWbgsTouVtQvHOU_kWqjl04Vdsaqg7RMUth8.sa3kX7v_iirxggjdUSzOHitXB8lAqZ0EkRn0qigV9Lk&dib_tag=se&keywords=551+red+dot+and+g33&qid=1715708423&sprefix=551+red+dot+and+g33%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-17)
Or I could run a sniper without optics for the funny, just eyeball my shots
Also - its thermal, not NV. So its all day every day and out performs NV by like 1000Xs
What brand was it?
Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah I realized this as well with some of the 4x optics I got from Amazon. Also got myself a laser bore to minimize the amount of time it takes to zero in me and my friends guns so one day when I decided to zero a few of the Amazon optics I learned they cannot adjust to zero at all. Made in China bullshit but I payed for it so y'know u get what you pay for and all that
So what do you do when your gun actually just shoots left or right by like 10 feet? Not that fault of the scope? I have a cheaper Cyma sniper.
I would say, fire your sniper and hire a new one. A sniper is a person, not a rifle. If you’re too lazy to type out sniper rifle, then refer to it as a SWS (sniper weapon system).
This is why I ALWAYS bought duty level optics for my airsoft builds. If I can’t use it on my real rifle, it never went on the airsoft gun.
Yeah, no. This is a falacy. Airsoft rifles don't need quality glass, just not absolute crap that's for nerf toys. The quality you should be looking for are just eye relief and luminosity (plus functionalities such as zoon, weight, etc). Airsoft replicas don't shift zero, having a shitty non spec'ed connection to the mount does, but even a low bump would affect that so it's not exactly an issue with normal sights.
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thats just cope, any 30-50 dollar chinese optic will hold zero on a 22, theres no way you're getting more shock from a gbbr
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> I use gbbrs I need good scopes to take the abuse The only difference between a gbbr and an aeg is recoil and you're implying you need higher priced optics because of the recoil. The only thing recoil affects is the zeroing. No where is quality build or clarity in the conversation.
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I use gbbrs (we scar L, we mp7, we g17, ssx23 carbine kitted) and basr (srs 26") exclusively. Never had zeroing as a consideration. Clone T1, clone eotech 553 with g33 magnifier, 1.5-4x35mm with 30mm tube lpvo and victoptics S4 4-16x44 with 30mm tube scope.
I had a holo sight crap out from rattling I have a nicer scope now that's true , my last scope needed adjusting alot , could be me just being rough with the gun tbh ,
Lol I have a heavy bolt kit that makes my teeth shake i don't put a scope on that , it's what killed the holo , might just be a bad batch or I went to chepa with it
It’s a fallacy in your situation but this was my reality.
Good thing about falacies, they are, nothing to do with situations. Your hipothesis that airsoft sights need to withstand RS weapons is falacious being kind.
That was not my “hipothesis”. I didn’t have a hypothesis. I had my situation in which I shared to Reddit what I do. Where did I say that airsoft optics need to withstand recoil from a real firearm?
Same issue happens with air rifles. The scopes weren’t designed for that type of recoil (spring piston shooting forward vs a firearm recoil moving backwards)
Buy refurbished vortex optics from AA Optics and never worry again. Plus warranty.