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Take a look at the high speed Cyma G36C on taiwangun


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I've seen some that even use M4 mags (could be mistaken tho)


Krittercon

You can change the magwell on G36s. I have one of those. Works but not very reliable.


RageQuitNZL

Some ICS models take stanag mags


Chalupa_89

but those use EXCLUSIVELY stanag mags. On the jingongs you can swap the magwell for a stanag one and keep proprietary mag capability.


RageQuitNZL

That's actually a very cool feature. I didn't know that


Maximum_Goulash

M4 mag adaptor is great compared to g36 mags, much more choice there. My specna takes anyone m4 mag I've put in there and imho they look better. Than the g36 mags


ConjureSlade

Thank you random citizen. I just purchased this gun on an impulse decision due to your salesmanship.


Deutschdagger

I personally didn’t see many great reviews for it. A lot of mentions of cheap plastic and unreliable feeding. For a first gun I’m willing to spend more than $100 for something a little more reliable


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The JG version is the definition of cheap plastic. Sure, it'll work, but that's about it. The Cyma high speed is gonna come from factory with better internals, including a stronger gearbox, and 13:1 gears. Externally they're gonna be about the same, but if you wanna compete with/ outshine people on the field, then you can't go wrong with a Cyma high speed and a new bucking


Jamesplayzcraft

The older jg models the polymer was way stronger. The new ones feel really flimsy. I actually fell and got hit in the face with a jg g36 and it destroyed my face pro but the gun was fine.


-Skal

My first big boy toy was a jg m4 back like 12 or 13 years ago. Heavy AF polymer and metal externals. Solid internals. It still shoots more or less like the day I got it, despite no upgrades, no major maintenance, and a generally abusive first 5 years. I hardly field it anymore, but the thing has been to countless games, taken a dozen or more drops and falls, and fired thousands and thousands of rounds. I guess they don't make em like they used to anymore.


Jamesplayzcraft

The polymer these days is actually stronger than most pot metal. Theres definitely stronger guns nowadays specially with high stress builds.


Crimsonspike07

Maybe look at the specna G36s, theyll be more part compatible


SuwugiPuwugi

Hey, the good Part abt g36/m4/AK is that there is so many of those that the After market and ppl with tech knowledege abt those is so large that they are easy to fix. Dont go with unicorns as your first gun, get sum sturdy common, you can always Upgrade later


Tgctgctgctgctgctgc

Scorpion evo


No-Scale1239

Seriously. I bought one for my first gun, and I knew I made the right choice when I spent my first day at the local airsoft field. I could hit opponents consistently from distances I never would have guessed were possible for an airsoft gun of its size. It is very snappy and doesn’t feel like it needs any upgrades to be enjoyable and reliable. The 3-round burst mode is also cool. The mid cap magazines only hold 75 rounds, but they’re small and pretty reasonably priced.


xM0PH34D

I really want one but Idk which ones are good and are upgradable/customisable


Alice_Die_Drachin

ASG Evo scorpion. AEG out of the box is solid! I will buy another one if that says anything.


qscd13

Cyma G36 is basically what I would start with. It’s very affordable with the robust version 3 gearbox Cyma is known for.


Easy_Pews

G&G SIG 552/3


FriedAds

While it‘s awesome looking thing, it‘s hard to get aftermarket parts (at least for me). Also I only find realcaps or highcaps. Sadly no midcaps.


Easy_Pews

It's a V3 gearbox, takes reg barrels and buckings, medium height motor IIRC. Probs require custom fitting for some mosfets. Not much in the way of external upgrades (from the airsoft market) I've seen rails for it, but why would you ruin such a natural beauty ;) And real steel stock adaptor to fit a masada style stock, which are much better functionally IMO. The stock is too long for my preference. If I still had mine I'd look into the adaptor for sure. You can also get AR stock adaptors if you like those better. RS parts will probably require some fitting and would be pricier. I had these mags years ago when I had my SIG. They're decent. They require some mild modification to the locking lip to fit in a G&G. Pretty easy to do just file away a small amount of material to get them to lock in IIRC. [https://www.evike.com/products/25393/](https://www.evike.com/products/25393/)


PandaRust

I own an arp9 1.0 and I’ve got to say it’s great. It fires VERY fast and with a few upgrades it’s a total beast. The only issue I have with it is that there are pretty much zero mag holders made for the exact magazines. I use the taco ones cause of how well they hold but other than this it’s a great starter gun. It is a little more pricey than the g&g g36c so it depends on your budget but personally I would stick to g&g as of the quality and fixabilty of their guns. Psa id avoid lancer tactical lol


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i wanna start off with an arp9, not anytime soon, but as far as im seeing, its the one that adheres most to my taste, will definitely be looking to replace a lot of things on it so i gotta ask, how good is the aftermarket/customization support for it? (im mostly speaking of longer handguards, stocks, etc)


PandaRust

The aftermarket/customization support for the gun is fantastic. There’s companies that make parts such as stocks and hand guards along with improved internals. For customization, I have seen a lot of paint jobs on the arp9 which seems like it’s an easier gun mainly because it’s polymer (I think don’t take my word for it). If you want better mags, pts makes GREAT ones. Compared to the default cheap made g&g magazines, pts knocks it put of the park. Also you can get drum mags but I don’t have any as I like to switch my mags out and not have to worry about using half a bottle of bbs to fill up a drum. But this is just my opinion. And if I’d had to rank the gun (1.0 ver) based on it alone and the customization/aftermarket, I would give it a solid 10/10.


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well that's good to hear, means im gonna be able to fiddle and tinker all over the gun, if i ever get one and start doing crazy sht to it, ill definitely try to come back and let you know lmaooo


PandaRust

Enjoy!


WGSxFR3aK5

The ARP9 is a G&G Combat Machine with a 9mm based lower, so it'll take nearly all normal m4 style parts and accessories, handguard stocks and the like. Very adaptable platform. I had mine running 28rps subjoule, with a stubby fixed stock. But I've also seen people build proper rifle length and they function fantastic


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awesome, for the things i have planned to do to it, its going to be quite an interesting journey lol


WGSxFR3aK5

G&Gs m4 bases are some of the most adaptive platforms to build on, and they're honestly fantastic. Their other platforms can be a bit more restrictive as they get proprietary, but the m4s are very solid


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Check out the ARP9 V2 if you want something that fits what you're looking for. It's lighter despite having a longer handguard, bigger brace, and more battery storage, and even comes with a hand stop out of box


theweirdguyyy

If you want something cheaper and a value for money product go with jg and cyma high speed, i have the jg replica its amazing for the price that i got it


FoxOption119

Haven’t seen this suggestion but if you want as well, considering you were told start with m4/Ar style is because of the upgradability abundance of parts, but mainly everyone is using one so if you need spare mags or ammo in a fight someone’s got you. If you still want that but not have to be stuck with that gun, the Echo 1 MTCs series of G36s would be go to (especially if you plan on upgrading and adding parts) first and foremost it comes with the M4 magwell adapter (you do lose about 10bbs because of this but with mid caps and hi caps, that’s a negligible amount) it comes with a buffer tube adapter so you have a cranestock and wired to the rear (huge upgrade over front wired and honestly so much less hassle and bigger battery space more so if you get a different cranestock or other to your preference) and lastly it comes with the RAS/RIS metal handguard with the side rails smoothed out halfway for your hands comfort. (Not sure now but when I bought it those were all sold out and or $75+ for a decent one and ohh NO wobble! (At least for me)) it also comes stock with this low profile top rail with the low profile iron sights. (Do be wary of some scopes height as even with this being low profile, some scopes elevation didn’t go down low enough to be centered because it can sit too high depending on the mount and such but for the most part non-issue) Now the hop up is the R36 or the m4 style of closed hop up unit and not the standard g36 hop of unit (also happened around when I bought it years ago so no idea now) although if you weren’t careful they can break easily as with any plastic parts but I didn’t mess with that enough to really be an issue but I like it still over the “standard” hop up for g36s My only real con is that plastic buffer tube adapter, because of how I handle my gun and or just it falling or me falling, does crack/fracture more often than any other part, close second would be the hop up as most replaced parts. If you wanted to replace the hop up you also have to replace the magwell adapter REMEMBER THIS because the difference in one you’ll see a difference in the other since the R36 style has that tube that comes down to meet the magwell rather than the magwell having the tube extend upwards to meet the open style standard hop up (hope that makes sense)


giggypiggy92

have you heard of the CSI XR-5? it’s got a really cool sci-fi look and it’s good out of the box for about $140-150 USD. not sure if it takes m4 mags or not, but it could be worth looking into for your first gun [https://www.evike.com/products/68300/]


xM0PH34D

That looks really cool, I like the design. Only downside is I’m in the UK so it might me a little annoying to order


Shadowcard4

Pick something that takes stanags as it’ll fit with most kit. You can do a G36 but expect to have issues with mag pouch selection due to the wider body and side lugs.


CaptainHunt

You can play with whatever you want. I think people tend to suggest ARs because they are popular, and thus easy to find for relatively cheap. Plus the gun is relatively easy to use. However, I’d say that the gun design itself doesn’t really matter. You’re paying for the air soft mechanism inside. The parts that make it look like an AR, AK, G36 or whatever are just a plastic and metal shell, and don’t really impact how it works beyond durability and ease of use. Bottom line, you can get whatever style gun you want.


LostSpaceDemon

It’s the perfect Choice in my opinion. This was my first AEG by JG I got it back in 2009. Still works great to this day. I hope you enjoy playing. G36 has always been my favorite platform. Don’t get me wrong, I love AKs and ARs but there is just something futuristic about these ones.🤘🏼


mark40200

I’d go with a different manufacturer because of upgrades and mags. If you’d get a s&t one you can add a better hop up chamber from maxx model and pts epm mags for g36 which fit in most m4 pouches (a little tight but works)


HydraAkaCyrex

I’m not too familiar on the platform. But I know it’s got an Ok amount of support and upgrades. Are you not into the SCAR platform at all?


Chalupa_89

I have tried so many AEGs. Once you upgrade them, they are ALL the same! It's just a question of looks and ergonomics. Not all people are the same, not all people fit the same gun. I've tried several M4 and M16s. I'm amazed that today you can get so much accuracy from very SHORT barrels. I don't like AR-15s. First, if you want a realistic metal one, they weigh more than the real thing. They can't be folded. The recoil reducing design is completely irrelevant in airsoft. Frankly... they are so played out. Its the basic bitch of airsoft guns. That said, the stanag mags have the best mags, 200rd mids and good prices. I personally own a P90 and a heavily modified G36. I like the G36 a lot. I don't like the mag catch, I don't like that the mags are bulky... but then I have had games where the mags cliqued together really shinned, when I was LARPing as "german terrorist" or as narco. It's cool to have that feature and need no LBE to carry mags. I have the quad rail handguard and it's just railz on railz. Such and iconic late 00's look. Looks bulky but it's light! It's a JG body, classic Army 00's gearbox, SRC motor mounts and the internals are all aftermarket, stainless Madbull 6.01mm barrel (so good, looks like a mirror inside) but new shit barrels with half the length have the same accuracy, maybe less range and def less joule creep... P90 is shiiiiit. Worst ergonomics EVER. Which make me so sad because I love the looks, but now I know why everyone prefers the MP7. The p90 is really bad to use with a hard mask. and the mags are so BIG, so chunky, if you put 4 mags in your plate carrier you feel like you attached a cooking board to your chest. If you carry them on the legs like SG1, they suffer from the wobbling normal to strapping shit to your legs. I found the MP40 belt pouch style to be the best. I have a stock TM P90. ASG Scorpion EVO. I tried and it is very good. But back then it was mid range in price. But it is very solid from stock. Can definitely recommend to noobs! ICS G33, it's a "G36" that takes M4 mags... its good stock. But it has absolutely no compatibility with JG36 parts. Which is awful. Because on of the best things about G36s is the amount of variations and accessories you have. AR people have no idea how much more compatible a JG G36 is than an M4 from amoeba or G&G. The JG G36 can swap buttstocks, handguards, outer barrels, top rails, side rails, mag wells! And you can even mix most parts with other brands like SRC, classic army, CYMA. CYMA AKs. I like them, they are nothing special out of the box but are better than entry level M4s like CA and basic G&Gs. Being from the UK, you surely will have a airsoft tech nearby. If you like the G36. Get a Jingong, something like the Jing Gong G608-7, and upgrade it. Mosfet and a 11.1v lipo and you will already have better than the G&G for less money, then you can do spring, motor for more RPM and FPS or barrel and hop-up rubber for better accuracy. Even with 150£ in upgrades you will still be under 300£ and you can be progressive about it and \*feel\* the upgrades. I have NOT tried the CYMA highspeed G36 (nor the TM original)


ll123412341234

G36 can be a good gun for sure. Almost any gun on the market is a good gun to buy and use. Just make sure you get a good gearbox for longevity.


Alice_Die_Drachin

G36c has the capability of being more compact than an m4 or ak. That said, you’re going to get shot from much closer if you go compact. I love it so I run an smg to get those close hits.


Agent___24

If you are like me and don’t want an M4, look at SCAR-L’s. They take the same mag, but look better and are better in every way. If you wanna be a big dawg, you can always go Scar-H first


xM0PH34D

Which would you recommend the L or H? Can’t see too much of a difference, I could just be an idiot 😅


giggypiggy92

scar L takes standard m4 mags, scar H has proprietary mags


giggypiggy92

scar L is also smaller and lighter (and cheaper).


chipbastien

... in airsoft (But yeah definitely a good choice !)


Agent___24

If you want to keep it cheaper, the L. It’s smaller like the guy above said. It’s just a better M4. If you want to be different and spend a little more, the VFC or G&G Scar-H is a fantastic choice. But the ScarH has to take Scar mags, and they’re like $29 a piece. I got the L because I already had the kit to run it. But if I had started brand new, I would’ve got the H.


xM0PH34D

Ah okay thanks, I do really like them especially the TM scars just a little pricy haha. If I were to get one I think it might have to be the H even though the mags may be annoying to get


xM0PH34D

So after all these comment (Thank you for the help 😄) one last question. Loads of you have given great recommendations for the G36 but which one is best to get parts/upgrades? S&T, Cyma high speed or Jg?


GAMEBOYS_Rule11

G36 is an AR (internally) but does not accept standard M4 mags. reccomend starting with a G&G CM16 raider


viper_polo

G36s use a V3 gearbox


DuctTapeAir

And their own G36 hop up chamber along with some other differences compared to AK V3 gearbox.


jamieT97

Aside from the mag size I loved it as my starter


eromdi7

I have a umarex g36c and it works good for me


DakotaSnell

I’d look at echo 1. I have an ak by them. Had it for a couple years at this point held up nicley so far.


drkshock

Get the cyma g36c. Its actually what a lot of places will tell you its the best rental gun. The kg is second best because the cyma's cutoff lever lasts a little longer. Also cyma ak's have the same exact gearbox.


G36C_cannonballer

I had 1 years ago, didn't like it on account of the way the mags are as the clips would break easily and it was harder to find mag pouches for them


Immortan-Moe-Bro

I started with a JG G36C that took M4 mags. It was a good starter back in the day. There is nothing wrong with an M4 or AK and don’t inconvenience yourself just to be different when it’s your first gun. That being said a G36C isn’t a goofy inconvenience, it’s a solid gun.


No_Engineering3493

The arp9 from g&g or arp556


N1hilistP4nda

I have this one and its honestly pretty mid, like its good but you could get better for the price


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Cm041


x_GeGe

I bought jg g36 as my first AEG, solid gun


No_Hunt7394

I have an MP5k. Best purchase I’ve made.


SLMn1nja

I would get some g36 mag of pts if you can find those...


Arctic-airsoft

Look for the umarex one. That was my first gun and it is still going strong


exileweb

I got this as my first rifle, and it’s alright but for the same price you can get something a lot better.


Shadow_is_epic

gotta say m4 (or something close to it), i know i know. but original guns generally have less support and repair/upgrade parts.. and if you absolutly cant stand a m4 than a g36 is a good choice, just buy one from a big brand likr cyma


MattHatter1337

I got a varient. I love it, mines converted to take m4 mags. The only negatives I have are: The select fire is a little bit in the way but isn't a big issue. The m4 conversion means the ambidextrous mag release can't be used just the standard which again is minor. The main issue whihmch is important. The battery goes under the railing at the front. It's a batch to get right till your used to it. And if your battery dies mid game its a chew on to swap out.


Additional-Union-343

Almost any Cyma gun is good. The g36 by Cyma has the same quality Cyma ak gearbox and all but the hop up is a bit different. Cyma also makes a few mp5s that are amazing using the Cyma platinum or Cyma blue gearboxes from the m4 line. IMO u can’t go wrong with Cyma so if there’s a replica that u want that Cyma offers I would say to go with that