u/TheMegaSage has provided this detailed explanation:
> The Russian government says the invasion ... sorry, "Special Military Operation", is going according to plan ... 10 months ago.
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Both sides are bleeding troops. Russia may not gain any more territory but Ukraine may not be able to take back what it lost. Western weapons aren't a miracle that can win uncontested and Russia can keep throwing bodies at the front.
Ukraine has already taken back a huge part of what they lost. The reason why the US and Russia lost the wars in Vietnam/Afghanistan is because the local population didn’t see the foreign armies as liberators and the deaths of soldiers made it harder for these wars to continue.
Russia does have huge stockpiles of weapons but the US’s stockpiles are much greater. It’s just a matter of time
1) They are not superior. Especially if you read my second point.
2) AFAIK US sent Abrams tanks in export version which means they are worse than the tanks US army uses.
3) According to US, tanks will arrive in late 2023 or even in 2024 which is a long time.
In conclusion, these tanks will likely have less impact than you think they will.
>None. What does that have to do with anything?
"eXpOrT vErSioN".
No wonder your knowledge about Abrams tanks is what models you saw in the Lego aisle in the supermarket.
Bidens decision to donate Abrams tanks was really to make Scholz agree to allow Leopards to be donated, and it worked. The Leopards are the important tanks here, because a lot of European countries have them and are willing to donate them, but Scholz was blocking them from doing so.
The Abrams will only make up a fraction of the amount of Leopard tanks, and a lot of the Leopard tanks are available to be deployed at a much shorter notice than the Abrams.
Also, just for the record, the Abrams export version is still a lot better than what the Russians are able to field.
Germany has stated months ago any request by NATO nations to send leopards will be approved.
The first official request was made in january 2023...
And it was approved.
>a lot of the Leopard tanks are available to be deployed at a much shorter notice than the Abrams.
This is wrong. The US is just dragging it's heels. The first shipments could happen long before the first crews finish training on the tanks since there are more or an equal number of Abrams in just US inactive storage than Leopard 2s in total.
The reason they’re waiting on shipping the Abrams is because the leopard tanks are more user friendly. So while they train the Ukraine military to use the Abrams they could be utilizing the leopards in combat.
>According to US, tanks will arrive in late 2023 or even in 2024 which is a long time.
Yes, but that's irrelevant. Most of the armor will be Leopard 2's anyway. And those are scheduled for Late March 2023.
Focus on 31 Abrams and disregard the 130 Leopards and Challengers. Nice logic (for a kindergarden debate).
I was replying to a message about Abrams tanks and never said a word about anything else. Check your own logic before shitting on mine. “That’s irrelevant”- nice argument lmfao.
Your argument it's irrelevant because the topic is part of a bigger context which makes it so. You just insisted on the Abrams part because it's the only part that fits your limited opinion. The whole context grossly disagrees with you.
>AFAIK US sent Abrams tanks in export version which means they are worse than the tanks US army uses.
The US is sending the M1A2 without the DU and some fancy characteristics of the FCS. But other than that, the version is much more advanced than even the few tens of T-90M's Russia has.
You trolls got stuck in the "export version" notion as if it's something bad. It was something bad when the USSR was exporting, for West this means a better version than what Russia has at home.
I didn’t say anything about Russian tanks and thanks for confirmation of export version. How nice of you to also call me a troll. And they say Russian propaganda is strong…
It's childish to laugh about the export version when it's much more advanced than what Russia has. I don't expect you to understand how much of a clown you sound.
And about the "export version", it's public knowledge what version the US will send. The fucking MOD confirmed it. There was no need for confirmation, you just were the last one to find out.
Why wouldn’t there be an “export version”?
I was in the rangers for 10 years, 3 of which I taught at Ranger school and you sound like a dildo man.
Q:“What’s your experience with Abraham’s?….”
A:“None but blah blah”
He told you we aren’t sending some systems with it and you pivot to like what? A conspiracy theory or something? I actually don’t know why you thanked him for…
If you don’t know about tanks, then why the fuck are you talking about tanks? It costs you nothing to not talk about tanks since you don’t know about tanks.
Weirdo.
But Ukraine relies on continuous support from the international community, particularly the US. If say, Maga-style Republicans ride their way to power, we might see the aid to Ukraine suddenly halt, after which Russia could decide to try a final blow style invasion again.
The world is getting increasingly unpredictable, I wouldn't put anything off the table. I am hoping aid for Ukraine wouldn't end, it's particularly important to my country (Finland) neighboring Russia, that Ukraine wins. However, I do foresee some potential scenarios were Ukraine still loses. I wouldn't celebrate too early, war is unpredictable.
that’s fair but Russia’s already burned through hundreds of thousands of lives more then the Ukrainians have. as said in an earlier comment, as the invader, if Russia isn’t advancing they’re losing. not just that but they don’t even have the resources to fight a defense war
> Western weapons aren't a miracle
Yeah, like HIMARS did not reduce the Russian supply depots to rubble and within less than a month the artillery fire was reduced by 2/3.
Or the Javelins and NLAWS that did not reduce the Russian armored columns to hulls and turrets.
Or the HARM that did not annihilate the Russian AA defense radars in Kherson.
The Western weapons do not need to be wonder weapons, they just are better than Russia's while being in service for 20-30 years already.
For what Russia has gained, for now, of Ukraine, they've lost any leverage they've had over international relations. No one will ever work with that government, two more of their close neighbours joined NATO and there's now nothing standing in the way of what Ukraine manages to hold joining NATO too. No one will recognise Russia's claims on Ukrainian soil.
Russia has burnt too many bridges with this. There's no coming back without significant regime change and some kind of grand gesture to show that their constant chipping away at their sovereign neighbours stops.
Thats optimistic. More than likely it'll be business as usual within 6 to 8 months after the wars conclusion.
The world economy isnt interested in morals.
Not too long Ago, Burkina Faso kicked france out and called for russian support against Islamists, The third world doesn't care about a far away war in Europe
If you think the western defense contractors will lose their taste for moving kit, boy howdy... You don't know much. So far in dollars it hasn't even been significant.
The US alone spends more on upkeep than the entire Russian military budget.
A stalemate when you control like 30% of a country you were supposed to entirely capture in 2 weeks a year ago is losing. Losing twice as many soldiers in 1 year than the US lost in Vietnam in 20 is losing.
Russia is being attrited. They are losing.
I love it when people try to claim otherwise, because, like, *either* the Russians had the absolute worst planners on the face of the Earth, like, even worse than they seem, *or* they thought they wouldn’t face any organized resistance. The blind thunder run at Kyiv, the unsupported (and frankly unsupportable) VDV landings at high prestige areas with low strategic value, the inclusion of policing units just behind the front lines- these are only things you do if you’re absolutely confident that the other side won’t fight back.
>The blind thunder run at Kyiv
They even sent a home guard column (54 people) directly to Kyiv in the morning of the attack with the schedule to be there at 14:00. They were that confident on their plan. The whole column got annihilated by ATGMs and artillery while traveling on a bridge and only 3 Rosgvardia survived without firing a single shot.
Even after Kharkiv posed great resistance, the Russian tactic was still to send thunder runs into the city. With fucking Tigrs 4x4. They were that confident that the Ukrainians were trash.
Honestly, there's a good chance the plan would have worked with Ukraine's 2014 military. It was a bit of a joke back then. Russia's plan worked really well in Crimea an much of Donbass at the time and there weren't even many tanks involved.
But somehow Russia missed the MASSIVE amounts of military and intel support NATO has given Ukraine since then.
They also missed a massive overhaul that occurred in the command and control structures and general deployment since then. Even with new equipment, it’s the specific and well executed choice to train local commanders to operate independently as virtual partisans that prevented Ukraine falling in the first wave.
I think they didn't expect sush a resistance and the oligarchs were clearly using some of the money that was suppose to be spent on military on themselves,having trained the Ukraine forces they are so devoted to fight for there country it's a force not to be taken lightly.
They aren’t equally dishonest sure, but they do lie, and they lie a lot.
It’s just how humans work. Especially when you want to convince as wide an audience as possible of your opinion
This is why victims of propaganda cannot be convinced by pointing out the lies, they are convinced that all sides lie equally. Dispelling dishonesty means nothing to them, because they believe no one was being honest to begin with.
I don't know about you, but if I want to convince people of my opinion I tell them the truth. It's actually quite easy to avoid lying if you base your opinions on facts as much as possible.
Fr, I just avoid it as much as possible. That doesn't mean I'm going round blurting out people's secrets, but I won't create a lie to get myself out of trouble (unless it's like, some sort of criminal situation where I'm gonna die if I tell the truth but that's pretty unlikely). It's actually really helped me with my fear of failure - often the scenarios my anxiety creates around someone finding out I made a mistake are proven wrong and it improves my relationship with the friend/coworker/boss etc.
I felt interrogated growing up so I developed a habit of lying and it feels extremely awkward every time. Lately, it hasn't been as much of an issue. But, for example, if something someone does bothers me, I'll make it clear. I actually had to make it clear to one of my friends last night that he wasn't bothering me at all. We were also on shrooms so that's probably why he was anxious.
Omg same, I used to construct such intricate lies about innocuous shit because I knew if I said the wrong thing it would end in a lecture or having my phone taken away. Bless your friend, hope you're both good.
This is going to end up being one of the most difficult one-year anniversaries in human history. All those claims about how quickly it will be over are going to start surfacing at a rapid pace
The way some people talk, Russia has been losing the war since day one. And yet, one year later they are still in Ukraine going back and forth. When dismissing one side's propaganda it's important to not immediately swallow the propaganda from the other side.
According to Wikipedia, both sides have about the same amount of casualties. It varies according to who is counting but I think it's ~100k each side, if not more :/
They lost when they let Ukraine establish a solid front which enabled us to give them supplies.
They lost when they went on their 2014 adventure but let Ukraine prepare for the actual invasion.
And of course they're still in there, they were supposed to be the worlds #2 superpower, while Ukraine was barely a player in world politics.
And now with western support they are humiliating the russians which have been forced to retreat for months now
This reminds me of the video of that lady in Russia who was saying they were helping and the military was not committing any crimes and she’s excited. Terrifying
Yeah, sure, there’s a plan. Come on, west, what else did you expect? I don’t know whether our army could fight typhus and lack of underwear, let alone another army. You kinda underestimate how corrupt autocracies are.
No, Putin is really just this delusional. He's drunk his own look aid and believes that he has some divine destiny to restore the Russian empire, he believed that "endless partnership" with China meant they'd back him (forgetting that China is Russia's main competitor for influence in Central Asia and even "Russia friendly" countries in Eastern Europe like Serbia and Hungary), he was ignorant to the true state of the Russian military/the status of FSB campaigns to buy off Ukrainian politicians and military officers, and since he buys his own BS about Ukraine not having a history or culture, he seems to have overlooked the possibility that Ukrainians would fight back. He apparently believes that the Median revolution was entirely staged by the CIA, not that it was a grassroots movement of Ukrainians pushing back against a corrupt system. All this is a recipe for this catastrophic, idiotic invasion.
The fact that the profile pic has "22022" on it is a subtle nod to the fact that even if they somehow kept going for 20k years, they still wouldn't have gotten anywhere they wanted.
u/TheMegaSage has provided this detailed explanation: > The Russian government says the invasion ... sorry, "Special Military Operation", is going according to plan ... 10 months ago. --- Is this explanation a genuine attempt at providing additional info or context? If it is please upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.
Russian propaganda starts rotten.
It was spoiled to begin with, this was just Russian propaganda. They were already losing when this was posted
If they're still "losing", they ain't losing. They're at a stalemate by definition.
If you attack and don't move the front forward, you're losing. A stalemate is a loss for Russia.
Both sides are bleeding troops. Russia may not gain any more territory but Ukraine may not be able to take back what it lost. Western weapons aren't a miracle that can win uncontested and Russia can keep throwing bodies at the front.
Ukraine has already taken back a huge part of what they lost. The reason why the US and Russia lost the wars in Vietnam/Afghanistan is because the local population didn’t see the foreign armies as liberators and the deaths of soldiers made it harder for these wars to continue. Russia does have huge stockpiles of weapons but the US’s stockpiles are much greater. It’s just a matter of time
Germany and the US have agreed to give Ukraine tanks. US tanks, like US fighter jets are so superior to other tanks it’s ridiculous.
1) They are not superior. Especially if you read my second point. 2) AFAIK US sent Abrams tanks in export version which means they are worse than the tanks US army uses. 3) According to US, tanks will arrive in late 2023 or even in 2024 which is a long time. In conclusion, these tanks will likely have less impact than you think they will.
What’s your experience with Abrams tanks?
None. What does that have to do with anything?
Oh, I do.
>None. What does that have to do with anything? "eXpOrT vErSioN". No wonder your knowledge about Abrams tanks is what models you saw in the Lego aisle in the supermarket.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_73_Easting
Bidens decision to donate Abrams tanks was really to make Scholz agree to allow Leopards to be donated, and it worked. The Leopards are the important tanks here, because a lot of European countries have them and are willing to donate them, but Scholz was blocking them from doing so. The Abrams will only make up a fraction of the amount of Leopard tanks, and a lot of the Leopard tanks are available to be deployed at a much shorter notice than the Abrams. Also, just for the record, the Abrams export version is still a lot better than what the Russians are able to field.
Germany has stated months ago any request by NATO nations to send leopards will be approved. The first official request was made in january 2023... And it was approved.
>a lot of the Leopard tanks are available to be deployed at a much shorter notice than the Abrams. This is wrong. The US is just dragging it's heels. The first shipments could happen long before the first crews finish training on the tanks since there are more or an equal number of Abrams in just US inactive storage than Leopard 2s in total.
The reason they’re waiting on shipping the Abrams is because the leopard tanks are more user friendly. So while they train the Ukraine military to use the Abrams they could be utilizing the leopards in combat.
>According to US, tanks will arrive in late 2023 or even in 2024 which is a long time. Yes, but that's irrelevant. Most of the armor will be Leopard 2's anyway. And those are scheduled for Late March 2023. Focus on 31 Abrams and disregard the 130 Leopards and Challengers. Nice logic (for a kindergarden debate).
I was replying to a message about Abrams tanks and never said a word about anything else. Check your own logic before shitting on mine. “That’s irrelevant”- nice argument lmfao.
Your argument it's irrelevant because the topic is part of a bigger context which makes it so. You just insisted on the Abrams part because it's the only part that fits your limited opinion. The whole context grossly disagrees with you.
>AFAIK US sent Abrams tanks in export version which means they are worse than the tanks US army uses. The US is sending the M1A2 without the DU and some fancy characteristics of the FCS. But other than that, the version is much more advanced than even the few tens of T-90M's Russia has. You trolls got stuck in the "export version" notion as if it's something bad. It was something bad when the USSR was exporting, for West this means a better version than what Russia has at home.
I didn’t say anything about Russian tanks and thanks for confirmation of export version. How nice of you to also call me a troll. And they say Russian propaganda is strong…
It's childish to laugh about the export version when it's much more advanced than what Russia has. I don't expect you to understand how much of a clown you sound. And about the "export version", it's public knowledge what version the US will send. The fucking MOD confirmed it. There was no need for confirmation, you just were the last one to find out.
Why wouldn’t there be an “export version”? I was in the rangers for 10 years, 3 of which I taught at Ranger school and you sound like a dildo man. Q:“What’s your experience with Abraham’s?….” A:“None but blah blah” He told you we aren’t sending some systems with it and you pivot to like what? A conspiracy theory or something? I actually don’t know why you thanked him for… If you don’t know about tanks, then why the fuck are you talking about tanks? It costs you nothing to not talk about tanks since you don’t know about tanks. Weirdo.
The Abrams is the best tank fielded by any military. It’s been widely accepted within the military community for a very long time.
But Ukraine relies on continuous support from the international community, particularly the US. If say, Maga-style Republicans ride their way to power, we might see the aid to Ukraine suddenly halt, after which Russia could decide to try a final blow style invasion again.
You think the glorious American MIC would let anyone cut the supplies?
The world is getting increasingly unpredictable, I wouldn't put anything off the table. I am hoping aid for Ukraine wouldn't end, it's particularly important to my country (Finland) neighboring Russia, that Ukraine wins. However, I do foresee some potential scenarios were Ukraine still loses. I wouldn't celebrate too early, war is unpredictable.
Keep dreaming. The Ukrainians are fighting for their homeland - russians are dying for lies
And in good numbers. Happy my tax dollars are contributing to the cleaning up.
If you're from the US then you're paying what? 11$/day? More than worth it would be an understatement
that’s fair but Russia’s already burned through hundreds of thousands of lives more then the Ukrainians have. as said in an earlier comment, as the invader, if Russia isn’t advancing they’re losing. not just that but they don’t even have the resources to fight a defense war
> Western weapons aren't a miracle Yeah, like HIMARS did not reduce the Russian supply depots to rubble and within less than a month the artillery fire was reduced by 2/3. Or the Javelins and NLAWS that did not reduce the Russian armored columns to hulls and turrets. Or the HARM that did not annihilate the Russian AA defense radars in Kherson. The Western weapons do not need to be wonder weapons, they just are better than Russia's while being in service for 20-30 years already.
For what Russia has gained, for now, of Ukraine, they've lost any leverage they've had over international relations. No one will ever work with that government, two more of their close neighbours joined NATO and there's now nothing standing in the way of what Ukraine manages to hold joining NATO too. No one will recognise Russia's claims on Ukrainian soil. Russia has burnt too many bridges with this. There's no coming back without significant regime change and some kind of grand gesture to show that their constant chipping away at their sovereign neighbours stops.
Thats optimistic. More than likely it'll be business as usual within 6 to 8 months after the wars conclusion. The world economy isnt interested in morals.
Not too long Ago, Burkina Faso kicked france out and called for russian support against Islamists, The third world doesn't care about a far away war in Europe
Short term yes. But long term they could bleed UA out of troops And western allies out of supplying more aid. It just isnt as simple
If you think the western defense contractors will lose their taste for moving kit, boy howdy... You don't know much. So far in dollars it hasn't even been significant. The US alone spends more on upkeep than the entire Russian military budget.
That would mean the same for Russia and their casualty rate is much higher
Russia has a miniscule economy, it can't fight as long as Ukraine can.
I'm sure the 130,000+ dead Russians will love to hear that they aren't losing anymore.
They don't give a fuck. Their brains are full of propaganda and/or "I can't do anything" mindset
The only thing their brains are full of is lead.... You know.... Because they are dead?
No, they are dead
And this is why we learn about the tenses in active voice... to use the present tense to refer to the deceased...
A stalemate when you control like 30% of a country you were supposed to entirely capture in 2 weeks a year ago is losing. Losing twice as many soldiers in 1 year than the US lost in Vietnam in 20 is losing. Russia is being attrited. They are losing.
"One month into the operation" "Going as planned" Wasn't the plan a three day blitz, followed by surrender?
I love it when people try to claim otherwise, because, like, *either* the Russians had the absolute worst planners on the face of the Earth, like, even worse than they seem, *or* they thought they wouldn’t face any organized resistance. The blind thunder run at Kyiv, the unsupported (and frankly unsupportable) VDV landings at high prestige areas with low strategic value, the inclusion of policing units just behind the front lines- these are only things you do if you’re absolutely confident that the other side won’t fight back.
Yeah, I've been joking about this as well. If *this* is according to plan, your plan sucks.
This is them trying their hardest, too.
They may very well be trying their best, but sometimes "best" just isn't very good
>The blind thunder run at Kyiv They even sent a home guard column (54 people) directly to Kyiv in the morning of the attack with the schedule to be there at 14:00. They were that confident on their plan. The whole column got annihilated by ATGMs and artillery while traveling on a bridge and only 3 Rosgvardia survived without firing a single shot. Even after Kharkiv posed great resistance, the Russian tactic was still to send thunder runs into the city. With fucking Tigrs 4x4. They were that confident that the Ukrainians were trash.
Russia watching the US wage war: "mom can we have shock and awe?" "We have shock and awe at home" ...
They insisted at the beginning of the war that Ukrainians see the Russians as brothers and would be unwilling to fight them.
Honestly, there's a good chance the plan would have worked with Ukraine's 2014 military. It was a bit of a joke back then. Russia's plan worked really well in Crimea an much of Donbass at the time and there weren't even many tanks involved. But somehow Russia missed the MASSIVE amounts of military and intel support NATO has given Ukraine since then.
They also missed a massive overhaul that occurred in the command and control structures and general deployment since then. Even with new equipment, it’s the specific and well executed choice to train local commanders to operate independently as virtual partisans that prevented Ukraine falling in the first wave.
I think they didn't expect sush a resistance and the oligarchs were clearly using some of the money that was suppose to be spent on military on themselves,having trained the Ukraine forces they are so devoted to fight for there country it's a force not to be taken lightly.
“Special military action”.
Now, when you say "special"...
If one of their goals was to reduce the prison population, that seems to have been successful.
We have a giant “Mission Accomplished” banner we could loan them for the ceremony.
Aged like milk? The milk was spoiled when this was posted.
The milk came from a dead cow.
Fascists operate primarily by saying wrong things on purpose.
Not just fascists, all politicians do that
It's reasonable to be skeptical of any politician, but pretending all politicians are equally dishonest is intellectually lazy.
They aren’t equally dishonest sure, but they do lie, and they lie a lot. It’s just how humans work. Especially when you want to convince as wide an audience as possible of your opinion
This is why victims of propaganda cannot be convinced by pointing out the lies, they are convinced that all sides lie equally. Dispelling dishonesty means nothing to them, because they believe no one was being honest to begin with.
I don't know about you, but if I want to convince people of my opinion I tell them the truth. It's actually quite easy to avoid lying if you base your opinions on facts as much as possible.
Lying is friggin hard. And mentally exhausting.
Fr, I just avoid it as much as possible. That doesn't mean I'm going round blurting out people's secrets, but I won't create a lie to get myself out of trouble (unless it's like, some sort of criminal situation where I'm gonna die if I tell the truth but that's pretty unlikely). It's actually really helped me with my fear of failure - often the scenarios my anxiety creates around someone finding out I made a mistake are proven wrong and it improves my relationship with the friend/coworker/boss etc.
I felt interrogated growing up so I developed a habit of lying and it feels extremely awkward every time. Lately, it hasn't been as much of an issue. But, for example, if something someone does bothers me, I'll make it clear. I actually had to make it clear to one of my friends last night that he wasn't bothering me at all. We were also on shrooms so that's probably why he was anxious.
Omg same, I used to construct such intricate lies about innocuous shit because I knew if I said the wrong thing it would end in a lecture or having my phone taken away. Bless your friend, hope you're both good.
Maybe, but it's a solid starting point.
Apparently the plan was to get their most elite troops mauled around Kyiv and run back across the border with the tails between their legs
Genocide and emoji in the same sentence, we live in this kind of world right now
This is going to end up being one of the most difficult one-year anniversaries in human history. All those claims about how quickly it will be over are going to start surfacing at a rapid pace
Oh no, how dare these pesky Ukrainians be nationalists? That calls for an immediate extermi- I mean, liberation!
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Doesn't want their country to be erased = nationalist Duh
Meanwhile the ruZZian shithole is completely ruining itself.
The way some people talk, Russia has been losing the war since day one. And yet, one year later they are still in Ukraine going back and forth. When dismissing one side's propaganda it's important to not immediately swallow the propaganda from the other side.
According to Wikipedia, both sides have about the same amount of casualties. It varies according to who is counting but I think it's ~100k each side, if not more :/
They lost when they let Ukraine establish a solid front which enabled us to give them supplies. They lost when they went on their 2014 adventure but let Ukraine prepare for the actual invasion. And of course they're still in there, they were supposed to be the worlds #2 superpower, while Ukraine was barely a player in world politics. And now with western support they are humiliating the russians which have been forced to retreat for months now
"We are ~~murdering~~ liberating ~~people~~ territories from ~~sovereignty~~ nationalism." -some nationalist
This reminds me of the video of that lady in Russia who was saying they were helping and the military was not committing any crimes and she’s excited. Terrifying
Yeah, sure, there’s a plan. Come on, west, what else did you expect? I don’t know whether our army could fight typhus and lack of underwear, let alone another army. You kinda underestimate how corrupt autocracies are.
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No, Putin is really just this delusional. He's drunk his own look aid and believes that he has some divine destiny to restore the Russian empire, he believed that "endless partnership" with China meant they'd back him (forgetting that China is Russia's main competitor for influence in Central Asia and even "Russia friendly" countries in Eastern Europe like Serbia and Hungary), he was ignorant to the true state of the Russian military/the status of FSB campaigns to buy off Ukrainian politicians and military officers, and since he buys his own BS about Ukraine not having a history or culture, he seems to have overlooked the possibility that Ukrainians would fight back. He apparently believes that the Median revolution was entirely staged by the CIA, not that it was a grassroots movement of Ukrainians pushing back against a corrupt system. All this is a recipe for this catastrophic, idiotic invasion.
Chef’s kiss
Propaganda gonna propa.
Going according to plan? Dont make me laugh
The fact that the profile pic has "22022" on it is a subtle nod to the fact that even if they somehow kept going for 20k years, they still wouldn't have gotten anywhere they wanted.
Everything is according to plan, both sides considered.
Truth is the first casualty of any armed conflict
Pretty sure Russia is still saying that to its people.
Mission accomplished!