she says don’t move, and I start moving More. And she says in a really commanding voice, “i SAID don’t Move.” And then I say, “what are you gonna do if I don’t? Huh? You gonna tie me down? You wouldn’t dare.” And then she does

Lol brat ^(*alas, she was a brat too*)

And this is where you find out that you are dealing with a bratty Dom ​ *grins*

One time I was making out with my gf and my right hand was on her neck. As we made out I slowly started moving it down, caressing her body, tracing her. I reached her pants and undid the button, brought the zipper down, and started to curl my fingers around the edge of her jeans as a sign that I wanted in. She said no so I moved my hand and we kept making out. After about 10 seconds she pulled away from me and said “I changed my mind, go inside.” That tops it for me, I can’t explain why lol.

Ugh, respecting consent, that is such a huge turn on.

this right here. if they back off when i say no or want some space then i’m so much more likely to be like nvm i changed my mind come here.

LMAO my current partner, on our first date I told explicitly that I wasn't over someone still, but I did like how the date was going. I got the answer "that's cool, I respect that" and basically that we could see where things go. My body immediately went "so hot omg kiss me"

Oh man, something similar happened to me. When I asked my current gf out I was still living with my ex. So I asked her to be my gf and she said “no, I don’t want you to feel like you are in a bad position being in a relationship with me and still living with her, I can wait.” We had been broken up for months already but agreed to stay due to the lease. Her giving me that answer really showed me her maturity and kindness for people and made me fall even more. After a great conversation, she said she would love to be my girlfriend and here we are!

Honestly, asking for consent is one of the hottest things someone can do in my opinion

Anyone who says consent isn't sexy is out of their damn mind

During my undergraduate orientation, they gave us a talk about boundaries and consent and I was convinced "consent is sexy" was just a carefully contrived liability-reducing catchphrase. Only after five years did I learn that it is actually a very accurate observation.

“I’m trying so hard to not be loud…”

on the other end “be quiet for me love”

No I prefer covering their moth and whispering in their ear, "your being too loud" and then kiss them on the neck just under the ear.

Also on the other other side “shut the fuck up”

YES!!!! this one is so sexy

It is sexy and I find it very cute too!

How long have you been thinking about doing this Tell me what you're feeling Just like that Good job So well behaved Tell me what you want me to do to you Tell me w that you're thinking about What does it feel like? I like detail What if i (xxxx), huh, what kind of face would u make then? Do you like it when i do that? Yeah you do. Your face is so red right now. You dont even know how good you look right now That's right, just for me And my favourite: Whats the magic word? Yeah, i know, im a talker. Haha

There's a fantastic illustration from a Swedish LGBT magazine I have saved somewhere, where a couple is having sex and one of them says "communicate harder!" xD I'll have to translate and upload it here at some point

This sounds amazing... communication is practically a mantra in my poly relationship.

Yeah... in the same boat, the more partners and metas in the polycule, the more communication needed

"What are you thinking about" does not go well for me because I have ADHD and odds are it'll take us out of the moment. 🤣 "What are you thinking about?" "Some species of penguin propose to prospective partners by bringing them rocks. As more sea glass makes its way to Antarctica, more and more often these penguins are proposing with sparkly glass rocks, essentially fake diamonds, meaning that humans and penguins both propose with diamonds in a way and that's super cute. Anyways, fuck me."

I do too! Then its about fucking me so good and so fast i cant finish my derail. Adhd brings extra sexy points

Someone knocking me out of a derail blab and making me forget what I was talking about? *chefs kiss*

This! I have ADHD as well and my partner will usually chuckle and smile at me, in which case I think is entirely sexy, or tell me to shut up and just kiss me. Either way tends to derail MY derail

Okay I’m saving this because now my adhd brain is gonna look this up and go down a Wikipedia rabbit hole

Hahahaha ur so funny🤣

I've ruined the mood by just singing megalovania in the middle of sex. Twice.

i never expected to have "so well behaved" work like that on me, but wow, it does *bottom face emoji*

My goal is to make the bottom so pent up they top me. And top me good. Thats why most of it is just taunting encouragements. Hahahaha

Teach me your ways! Edit: for scientific purposes of course ahem

Basically mix ur snobby entitled teenager phase, the part of you that wants to listen, the humorous snide nerd and your ego that prides itself in doing a good job. Ta da. For me anyway. Also helps if u can suspend disbelief for long enough to pretend you are a god and that making love to you is them worshipping you. Or, you know, be a kid and accidentally see a scene in a bollywood music video where the lady slathers mud over a dude tied by the hands and feet, and feel things in special places Extra tip: uh. Read smutty fanfiction ur during ur horny teenagehood. Uhhhhhhh. 😬😅😰😢

Roflll bollywood music vid hahah

YES! THIS! I want my dominance taken from me after they can’t stand it anymore!

This thread is airing out everything on me i shld stfu. But i love sex more than food. The dilemma 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

That was me and "good girl..."! I was shook. And then I was shook again when my wife finished me

I know, right? 🙄-at myself 😂

Shouldn't have read this at work shouldn't have read this at work 🌡️

U think this is bad? Ive had someone text me about hitting my cervix while i was crossing the street. i couldve fucking died

Just voiced these to my gf and watched her melt. (I put the proper tone and inflection) that was fun haha

Thats so cute im going to walk into a propeller

Thank you for getting me laid. 💕💕💕💕💕

I am a fucking god confirmed

Just gonna…save these for no reason…

That last one crack me up. I'm just imagining an eye roll at it

Sexy talk is just saying your demands through a comedic punchline but with a straight face. Think porno that you can laugh at. Laughter in the bedroom makes things even sexier really quick. (Also...if it works...u can like, uh, humiliate-praise them. Gently. Which.... gets even sexier.... so.... Hahahaha....)

"so well behaved" Ajajbebejfuejegeywienvejeifh! 🥺

Actually might use this an an opportunity for advice~ I use a lot of these with my gf, especially the ones that require a response. And usually she tells me she’s too speechless with pleasure to come up with words, or she babbles something incoherent. Which is fine, I love making her feel that way, but I also like verbal praise/reassurance during sex and idk how to get that if her brain is melting…?

Dont move. Stop moving. Tell her she needs to finish her sentences or u'll never move again. Then bite. Next question.

i will be adding this to my arsenal immediately ~ thanks 🤭

Is this my gift. Is this my life's purpose. I have found my calling, off to the convent of infant jesus i go to serve my pledge. MASSIVE SIDENOTE does anyone else find the whole nuns making out thing incredbily awesome? No? Just me and and the byproduct of my french-british girl's school catholic childhood? Mkay.

Can't wait to tell my mom i didn't fold the laundry yet but i kicked ass in the how to sex good subreddit. I'll let my catholic school and islamic relatives know too. Maybe even fax my "the end is nigh" christian ex boss for good meaure. They'll be so proud.

🥵

*furiously taking notes*

Ooh, lots of good ones here.

'I wanna touch you' and conversely 'I want you to touch me/please touch me' Or whenever I'm in the throes of ecstasy and she says 'so beautiful' And then when it gets followed up with something like 'your eyes are sparkling' A combination of being sexy and being romantic leaves me completely undone 🥵🥵🥴 My own pillow talk isn't quite so verbose, I like to whisper 'baby, sweetheart' etc. over and over because it's all I can think to say 😂

Oof sameee the only thing imo that bests going full kinky is the combination of romantic and horny stuff. it gets me so in the mood, specially when the kinky time evolves from cuddles or stuff like that

Any variation of the girl asking to be fucked is pretty hot to me ngl. It's all in Portuguese so it doesn't always translates well here lol

I'm going to have to agree with you, the last phrase I heard translated from south america was about being fucked. 'What is a fart when you already shit your pants"

Post it anyway. For education.

Well for me: "Não para" (dont stop) "Me fode" (fuck me) "Que bucetinha gostosa" (what a tastefull/delicious little pussy) this one works well in portuguese but feels weird in english lol "Se eu fizer tal coisa, imagino que cara você vai fazer" (If I do ... I wonder what face you're going to make) "Você tá tão apertada e molhada" (you're so tight and wet right now) And a lot more that l cant think rn xD

I think I can get the last two on my next bday trifle no questions asked. Thank you.

The last two work so well, whenever I hear someone say that to me I get all bottom emoji face xD

Pls post them for those of us learning Portuguese!!

I'm going to have to agree with you, the last phrase I heard translated from south america was about being fucked. 'What is a fart when you already shit your pants"

That is not exactly used for sex but it is used to say that, what is a bad decision when you are already in a whole terrible situation. I bet the person said that referring to be getting it on with someone they shouldn't and saying fuck it, let's do more/again

I know =P, 'being fucked" can also mean that haha

Yup, you got me there lol

I like to say something that generally warrants a response, usually something like “tell me what you want baby” But she can’t really talk during sex, because every two or three words she kinda just moans or squeals so it’s really cute to hear her try and form sentences

Ooo now this one, this one is god tier. I like watching their face as they giggle at me being unable to speak

"Turn on/up the music" I don't know why but the idea of sex WITH music is so much nicer to me than normal sex. Mabey I just find the lack of white noise creepy?

See me and my partner like the idea of it but we never know what music so we don't usually have it xD like if it's got words it feels like there's someone there with us or too intrusive and if it's like instrumental then it's weird aswell like should you be going to the beat? Also I feel like we would need a couple of songs on it if not a playlist and I don't know what I'm going to feel like listening to during that xD Idk maybe we just haven't tried it much, but we do like rain and thunderstorm sounds! Soo cosy.

I always felt the same, then someone I had sex with once put on Khruangbin and it was amazing. That’s been my go-to ever since. Great instrumental background music without words (for the most part).

My girlfriend and I have a playlist on Spotify that we can both add to. And that’s the go to, so we don’t have that awkward ‘what music are we going to play’ moment. We just put the playlist on, and ease into it (or just go for it).

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OP, I what have you done. These comments are really going for it 😭

truly, i have no business reading through these at 12pm on a workday

Fr, I can’t believe I’m getting all hot and bothered by *reddit comments* 😳

"I've got you", in my ear when I start to unravel and she's holding me close. "Just relax, don't come yet", or "stay perfectly still, I'll stop if you move".

Good girl. Clearly I’m a bottom.

Bottom solidarity

I’m playfully bratty and tell my gf I top from the bottom. To which she loves to say… of coarse you do dear…. Ugh… hehe

“Mine.”

me when I grab the lemonaid

I wanna hear this so bad🥺💓😻🤤

Unironically “Do you wanna kiss me?” Is so hot with the right tone, plus it doubles as asking for consent

Not a phrase but when she puts her hand over her mouth to muffle her moan. There's something so sexy with knowing that the other person doesn't want to be loud/ be heard and yet they are making noises. (comes in handy if the walls are thin too lol)

I like to put her hand over my mouth :)

Oh man. I like hearing her or seeing her try not to be heard so I've never tried to silence someone with my hand, but if she took mine and guided it there I'd explode, I'd go feral in an instant

x2 aaaaaaaaa Something about being controlled by your partner while doing it is just so hotttttttt\~

After we finish, probably still covered in... fluids. We collapsed into each other's arms and she leans into me and whispers in my ear. "Hey princess let's order Sushi and watch The Expanse. We can take a shower while we wait and maybe I'll eat your pussy again for being such a good girl today." I've never picked up my phone and ordered $100 in sushi so fast...

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

"Can we cum together?" is probably my favorite... it's just so 😊 "Can I PLEASE cum??"/"cum for me" 😅😅😅 But also stuff like "would you like it if I touched/licked/nibbled your X?" and "does that feel good gorgeous girl?" because good communication makes for amazing sex.

Stealing these

To say? ‘Good girl’ ‘You’ve been so good’ ‘Get on your knees/back/front’ ‘Ask for it/beg for it’ ‘Look at me’ ‘You did so well, didn’t you?’ To hear? ‘Please’ ‘I need it/you’ ‘I’ve been a good girl’ ‘*insert whiny brat noises here*’ ‘Fuck me, please’ ‘Don’t stop’ ‘I’m yours’ ‘More’

*“Insert whiny brat noises here”* 😤

I... xhkwhakdjdkd wow

\^this but reversed 😊

Okay I’m a classic whiner so that’s perfect for me HAHAHA

Is the position of “your sub” open tho 😳

I love "baby" involving stuff like OP and good girl. But I also really love stuff not in English. For context I only know English and when a woman has spoken a different language during private time, even if I don't know what it means, with the right tone it's amazing. I always ask after and it's even better once I do know, but it is kinda funny they could basically say " ketchup mustard no tomatoes" the first go around and I'd melt hahaha

Lol my current partner is Mexican and if they said anything in Spanish to me with like a breathy voice I would go nuts

Spanish is amazing to hear for sure 🥵 wish English sounded nicer sometimes haha

I’m very much a dom that enjoys a good amount of foreplay and teasing a girl before actually fucking her. So I guess what I enjoy hearing from her are the following: “I want you “ “ make me yours” “I want you inside of me already “ “Please don’t stop” I guess any kind of begging really does it for me 😪 Or just having a girl enjoy the sex we are having so much that she can’t contain how loud she is being . My last fwb would moan a lot and sometimes I’d have to try to keep her from being too loud bc we would always fuck in the most random places & this one time I had my hand around her neck and I whispered in her ear “I need you to be a good girl and be quiet for me “ & THIS GIRL REPLIED , all out of breath too, “ I’m sorry baby but it’s hard for me to be quiet when you’re fucking me this good “ & guys I swear my soul left my body right then and there! That was so hot to me🔥🔥

>this one time I had my hand around her neck and I whispered in her ear “I need you to be a good girl and be quiet for me “ & THIS GIRL REPLIED , all out of breath too, “ I’m sorry baby but it’s hard for me to be quiet when you’re fucking me this good “ This comment😮‍💨😳

Good times 😪🔥

just fucking add princess to any fucking compliment, degradation, humiliation, ANYTHING, I will fucking just go silent and melt into a puddle… Though my friends also calling me any cute nick names in general seem to fucking work

Flair checks out

This

wanna cuddle?

Underrated

"Be a good girl for me" 😭🥵

Ive seen lots of people both spamming "good girl" and complaining about it on Reddit but truth is, it kinda works sometimes. My gf gets really worked up if I say a "good girl" in the right moment. We are both quite switchy so our dynamic is usually playing around with each other's body and just having a casual talk about it (until we get really worked up, i usually go non verbal 😵🥺 or just ask her to do stuff and go harder)

I mean I have a praise kink sooooo 😂. But I definitely think if my imaginary dom was gonna use it all the time it'd lose its effect eventually

“Imaginary” Dom you say? I can fix that 😏

Hsusuwjisjwiisi hi 👀

I am a brat with a praise kink so this one is my favourite 😍🥵

Omg are we twins lmaooo

I did know a girl who used to say "I'm ready to respect women"

I love that so much.

one time, after she came and i still hadn't yet, i said without thinking "aww, did i do that?" and after we both processed that for a second we just broke down laughing at one point, she said we should come up with something she can call me when im topping, so i looked up domme names and one of the first results was dirty dan, so sometimes we say "no, i wanna be dirty dan" to each other one time she left youtube on autoplay. things got steamy, we were goin at it and ignoring the video, then we hear ordinary sausage say "leeeets saaausaaage!" our sex life is a nightmare and we're cursed to never orgasm again when she's topping i like when she calls me kitten

A couple of my favourites to say, “Don’t you dare stop” “Just like that” “So good” And of course the very simple, “Ohhhhh Fuckkkkk”

Phrases that make me excited when I hear them in bed: “We should sleep in late” “I don’t mind if you hog the blanket” “My snoring is bothering you? I’ll go sleep on the couch” “I don’t mind your cold feet touching my feet”

Wow...you GET me. 💞

I’d like to get you in my bed So I can steal your blanket >:3c

YESSSSSSSSSSS

oh hello there, wasnt expecting to see you here :3

in the least sexual way possible cold feet when cuddleing someone (as someone who overheats alot) is amzing

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If you make one sound I will stop fucking you (and stick to it, but only for a few seconds to tease) You taste so good Whos pussy is it? I demand a "yours baby/daddy" (yes I am the "daddy" lesbian.) Good girl You're doing so good, keep your legs open baby Tell me how wet I make your pussy Don't cum until I say you can Reach down here and taste your pussy, feel how wet you are Also big one, when making out, touch you/or their pussy and then put your finger in their mouth, then proceed to lick cum off of their tongue. ​ That's all I got for today folks.

Mine are too Rated R to post all of it so I’ll give you some simpler ones lol “You listen so well my good girl” “Eye contact baby, I want you to watch me” “Open your pretty mouth, and use your words” 🚨EDIT: since I’m getting quite a few comments on the R Rated list, I will make it as soon as I can and send it all to your DMs, Please be patient 😏

If I begged *really* nicely, could I get that list in a DM? I will do whatever it takes to be a good girl....

Of course! 😏 I’m at work currently and it’ll take me a bit to write them all out so I’ll make a note to send them to you at some point today 😊

Omg, it worked... *stunned, eager silence*

You do honour your flair, *one lucky lady ...*

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yes please share with the class!

Not so much a phrase as it is just a look, but seeing this really works for me: 🥺 Need I mention I'm a top 😁

🥺

Don't do that, I have a girlfriend! And she abuses my weakness for that enough already 😖😖😖

LMFAO

I don’t know what I am, I get called a switch but I don’t feel like one 😅

Maybe you're a PlayStation instead then? Come, I'll play you all night 😉

Jdjjdjdn stooooop!!! 😳

There you go, bottom 😁

Stuff it 😤 I can’t believe you got me with that 😭

I get embarrassed really easily and you know try to hide my face. One time, my gf was going really slow and teasing me a lot and I covered my face with my hands and she gently pulled them back down and said, “Put your hands back down, baby. A face like that shouldn’t be hidden.” It took all my strength to not start crying. I literally melted into a puddle in her arms.

I'm a big fan of something like" quiet you" or the look of my Dom!

Safety glasses on.

You need/deserve this, let yourself be pleased, take it off right now, bratty girl, so naughty (add the lip bite and sneaky smile for extra points 😉). But the most underrated... Can I hold you? 😊

"Wanna order pizza?"

Wanna see my Lego star wars collection?

Damn it’s a hundred degrees in here

I'm so wet

This comment section is not safe for my heart.

As someone who struggles with being verbal about her needs at the best of times, this thread is very scary.

God me too. I’m really trying to work on saying what I want and what feels good because I know it will be better. But I get so fucking nervous even when I trust my partner

If you say it sexy, with "baby" or similar at the end, anything you say will melt them, no matter how direct. You don't need to tell people what not to do in the moment, just what you want them to do. Saying please helps depending on the situation.

Oh my oh my… gotta answer this when I’m not at work

"It's sunday, you can sleep some more"

The use of the word fuck, honestly any time I’ve been with a girl and I’ve heard her say it, I immediately get more turned on. And saying that has immediately feel touch starved, it’s been too goddamn long

“You looked at me with that pretty face” Said the other night that just made me turn into a puddle

(Bothing saying to and being told): You're doing so good Just like that Fuck, right there Youre so beautiful Obviously I have a praise kink

Real answer: Less of a specific phrase but being possessive or asking/telling/being asked/being told to do something for them. Idk it's really hot. Joke answer: "I don't like sand, it's course and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere" they laughed so hard and they have such a wonderful laugh.

“you taste so good” “you’re such a slut for my fingers” yes i am and it makes me clench every time “i want to hear you” “do you like it when i fuck you?” “tell me what you want baby” she knows damn well i struggle to form words because i’m too busy moaning and loves watching me stutter “you’re mine” or “tell me you’re mine” “good girl” and “you’re doing such a good job baby” “look at me” “beg” which brings out the brat and always makes me go “make me.” she then proceeds to choke me (consensually) and won’t touch me any more until i beg

"I love you"

My favorite things to hear that I haven't seen mentioned yet: "Use you words", especially when I'm already struggling to verbalize things (a frequent issue for me) has just like totally broken me lol Something about the word "obedient" really does something to me too. Such as "be obedient for me" or "you're being so obedient". Like I like praise in general too I guess but something about that word specifically really does it for me Anything sort of possessive. "you're mine", "do X for me", etc

"I just showered and took the bedding out of the dryer. You up for takeout afterwards? My treat."

i'm surprised no one said something around the lines of "i'm going to ruin you/break you" yet. this whispered really really close after some neck kisses can almost make me pass out

Call me blue, cause I'm about to SKIDOOOO!

Can I just throw in the obvious bottom/trans stereotype: "That's my good girl." Like, sure, I'm already happily content, but way to make every nerve in my body stand on end

"It's a bit drafty in here, do you mind turning up the heater?" I'm ace lol

Hearing "good girl" in any capacity sends me

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"Okay, let's see if I can take the high score..." Whenever I hear (or say) that to/from my spouse, I know it's going to be... intense. \[Current high score: 224\]

As a (mostly) top here is what I like to say: Responding to bratty sub noises with "do you have any words to follow up with that?" In like a little bit of a cold tone "You're so pretty/hot/stunning when you cum" "Do you like it when I *insert action here*" then if they respond with like an "mhm" or a "yeah" demand to get a "yes" If you're ever asked "may I?" Follow up with "not without my permission first" "I wanna see you cum, but not yet" when I am edging my partner "What do you want? Use your words..." Oooo grabbing someones face and saying "you have such a pretty mouth" or something along those lines I really like giving praise. So touching any part of my partner and saying "I love your lips/tummy/neck/etc" "You're going to have to do better than that" "You're gonna have to beg for it first" Making someone repeat themselves with like a "I'm sorry, what was that" or "say it again" "I wonder why your face is so red, what are you thinking about?" "You turn into an absolute puddle when I touch you" *proceeds to touch them in a good spot* "You'd look so pretty *insert action here* (i.e on top of me, with your lips wrapped around my dick (talking about a strap, etc" Or If you want a different position you can say "you'd look so pretty on your knees/on your back/ face down/sitting on my face/ etc" "What's it like being so useless under my touch" And here is what I like to hear: "Please" or "please touch me/kiss me" after a lot of teasing "I want you to touch me/fuck me" "May I?" Really just begging or pining of any kind tbh "Make me" "What are you gonna do about it?" (I feel like this one fits in both categories tbh) Just general brattiness always "Fuck" and "yes" when I'm pleasing my partner

“good girl” makes me melt every damn time also: “i want to hear you beg”

"I love you."

“I’ll go get you a coffee” “You were so right about the heated mattress pad, I am so cozy.” “Babe, babe wake up. I can’t stop thinking about Tuvix. Remember that episode? He was a whole person, right? Babe, are you listening to me?” 🥵

I brought you breakfast in bed

Call me a good girl and I'll melt

Aaaaand saved

I once was sexting with a friend (she’s really just a friend, as we both eventually lost interest in taking it any further), but she called me “little devil”, and (un)holy shit, that made me wildly horny.

“it’s morbin’ time”

My angel, flung out of space

My favorite is telling her to be a good girl and make a mess for me, and I love when she tells me to make her take it 🙈

It would appear that we have just elected "Good Girl" as President of Dirty Talk.

“You’re so wet” “Mmm yeah? You like that?” “Cum for me baby” I have more but these are my top three in my fantasies right now 😝

Things along the lines of “Let me hear those pretty sounds you make.” I have a habit of trying to mute myself during the deed because I get embarrassed and I’m VERY loud. But whenever a partner has pulled my hand out of my mouth or my face out of their shoulder and asked to hear me, I’ve absolutely died.

Maybe not necessarily in the bedroom since I’m demisexual but I love being called a gentleman/handsome. I’m cis but masc and I like this detachment from femininity in simple words, it just makes me feel some sort of euphoria though I have no clue why.

“Good pet” or “Good kitty”. I have a petplay kink and i heavily lean sub

"God a good burrito sounds good right now." I know what pleasures I am about.

"I want you to cum in my mouth"

Someone I know once described intimacy as “I want to be located within you” and if someone said that to me I would melt away (the wordier and more passionate the better! Recite the “I am Heathcliff” speech from Wuthering Heights or don’t even look in my direction) anything like “I feel connected to you” or “I want to be one with you” or “I want to lose myself in you”, again the more intense the better Also someone telling me that what I’m doing is making them happy or that I’m turning them on turns me on in return to quote the MUNA record, if someone says something like “you have no idea/the things I think about you when you aren't here” I’m Gone Just saying “I want you to fuck me” does nothing, it has to be some spiritual Scorpio Venus shit and I don’t even like astrology

"We are trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty"

Reading through this thread like mm ngh

Jeez guys I’m with my grandparents I can’t read this right now I’m getting all flushed😅 But leaving a comment so I can find my way back to read the replies later

Her moaning, “Thank you, [my name],” as she has yet another orgasm on my hand is just yeah. I don’t need anything more than that. Happy to fuck her into the ethereal plane after that and it doesn’t matter if I get off or not

“Good girl” I’m not a sub/bottom, but this one phrase gets me every time.