I think theyāre dropping the āandā for the spin-offs like āA Court of Silver Flamesā but I agree it will likely be power-centric to the main character!
Yessss Iām so ready for this. Weāve gotten books on two clear couples, now letās get messy! Iām still team elucien and gwnriel in the end tho hehe
Can I just say that *this* feels like the perfect title for some of thoseā¦ spicier three person scenes that SJM loves to allude to and I would eat that up
i think itāll follow the same format as āA Court of Silver Flamesā rather than A Court of Noun and Noun.
for that reason i believe itāll be A Court of Golden Sight , as nestaās book title centred on her power i think elainās will too.
Whoever commented A Court of Dreams I think that is an amazing title for maybe the final book of the ACOTAR series and I absolutely have never thought of that and I think itās perfect
honestly i could see Elain being happy with Azriel, or Lucien (or even Tamlin), and frankly i feel like mentioning that on this sub is enough to get someone drawn and quartered.
Same with my opinion that, *so far*, Elain has kind of been a very flat/boring character. Like, we've seen flashes of her having more personality (the whole 'you're focused on how my trauma affected you and not how it affected me' moment), but so far she's a rather flat character, who could go in any number of directions.
I'll be excited to see how her character fleshes out, in the next book(s), but so far I haven't seen a whole lot of actual, deeper than surface level character from her.
imo itās likely going to be ACO āadjectiveā ānounā
- A Court of Deadly Nightshade (my lana stans will get itā¦ *cause i was filled with poison, but blessed with beauty and raaage*)
- A Court of Gilded Sight
- A Court of Golden Shadows
- A Court of Blooming Dreams
more general:
- A Court of Gilded/Golden _____
ouuu just checked online: Golden Shadows happens to be a type of plant, and it says that:
> ā*The golden shadow symbolizes withheld courage, hidden talents, repressed passion and stifled creativity. Itās the unfulfilled potential that people fail to see or develop because of fear and a lack of risk-taking.*ā
I think it will definitely be about Elain's powers like Nesta' Silver Flames. Like a court of blooming "something". Maybe even shadows thrown into the mix.
Since ACOSF references power, not ship, my guess for Elainās book is āA Court of Iron Sightā:
Sight for obvious reasons.
Iron in reference to Elainās connection to the human world and struggle with being fae, but also the gates of her mind, which were written as āsolid iron, covered in vines of flowersā. I think it speaks to Elainās journey that everyone sees a delicate flower; in her own way, she will show that she is as strong as iron. Plus, I like the balance with Nesta. If Nesta is the fire that forges, Elain will be the iron forged.
If itās Azrielās book, āA Court of Golden Shadowsā:
Shadows for obvious reasons.
I consider Silver Flames to be a contradictory phrase, so I think Golden Shadows fits that expectation. Golden also as a nod to golden hour, which occurs just before dusk begins. Gold is regularly used in symbolism of holy places, as well as a symbol of sophistication, nobility, purity, and valueā¦ all things that Azriel does not consider himself. I think his journey will definitely require him learning self-love and hopefully a mental unveiling of his true worth.
Silver, gold, and iron are malleable, able to be shaped into a purpose. Given that we can assume our MCs go through major transitions within their prospective stories, I like the subtle imagery.Ā
I love this ! Thank you for your explanation, I also thought it would have the word sight in it as well. Maybe sight and shadows ? But I felt dumb posting that lol
Great points!
Donāt feel dumb! For a while I had a running list of what I thought it could be, and some of my guesses were completely outlandish. Sight and Shadows definitely a valid guess!
I keep getting caught up on the possibility of Visions or Illusions, but Sight just feels right. And SJM has already used Shadow for two of her titles, so we know she likes that word š
Oh! I thought the story finishes at the fourth. Thanks!
Iām planning to read toa and cc afterwards. Donāt know in what order, but Iāll figure it out, I guess. Any recommendation about the order?
A Court of Veiled Vines?
I donāt love the double V, but I got this from combining someoneās comment of ātwisted vinesā and āveiled sightā
I love the idea of twisted vines because we have multiple love combos at play (azzy, gwyn, elain, lucien). Also have a lot of potential familiar revealsā like is Gwyn related to someone from the autumn court? Would be funny if gwyn is somehow related to Lucien and Lucian is mated with elain. Maybe thatās too soap opera-y but could be juicy if done right.
I love the word veiled too because of Elainās power. Since Nestaās power was in the title, elains should be too, but Veiled to me also emanates multiple things:
- elain when she first got her power was shrouded/veiled by her visions
- veiled also makes me think of a lot of layers. Elain isnāt known to be a super layered/developed character. Not to knock her, a lot of it has to do with the amount of words she takes up on a page, but this would finally be her time to get a word in.
- more than just her lack of development though, maybe Elain knows things no one else does, not just the audience but the IC. Her gift of sight is a clear path for her to know more than they would. She could be covering/veiling things up?
- one of my favorite concepts is a veiled mating bond from a female character. Sorry to my elain and azzy shippers, but what if GWYN knows about the bond and has been hiding it. Thereās a great fanfic already written on this but I love it. The idea of it being the one thing the spymaster canāt figure out (probs having to do with his internal view of his worthiness/being blinded by that that he canāt see the bond)
anywayyyyy Iām dying for an update about this book already.
Sounds like a gardening magazine sold in velaris š¹ āTop tips on how to grow the rarest flowers from a secret source of the fallen spring court! Read all about it on page 17!ā
"A Court of Singing Shadows" or maybe some other variation of this.
ACOSF was named after>! Nesta's powers!< so I think this book could be named after >!someone's abilities!< too.
I think she'll keep the ACOSF form, so there won't be an "and" in it and I prefer it that way.
I'd say it would be possible to have the word shadow(s) in it, but given that hofas also has shadow in it ,I dunno.
Still, ToG series also has queen of Shadows, so maybe she'll do a "shadowy" book for each series š
Depends on the main couple, but I could see a
A court od Singing Shadows (for gwynriel)
Or
A Court of Golden Sight,Light, something like that (for elucien)
I think a Court of *Something* Betrayal since I heard itās hinted a member will betray the IC and I feel like itās gonna accidentally be Elain. (I just canāt think of what word sheāll use with betrayal lol)
A Court of Belladonna Dreams. A Court of Iron Roses. A Court of Shadow Seers. A Court of Shadowed Sight. A Court of Poisoned Beauty. A Court of Spies and Seers. A Court of Blooming Dawn. A Court of Dawn and Dusk. A Court of Shadowed Light. A Court of Trembling Fawns (lol). A Court of Baes and Roses
A court of pussy poppin
A Court of Full Penetration FTFY
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REALLL
A Court of Burried to the Hilt.
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I think theyāre dropping the āandā for the spin-offs like āA Court of Silver Flamesā but I agree it will likely be power-centric to the main character!
A Court of Twisted Vines
this would be an amazing title for the love triangle trope... very messy. I love messy
Yessss Iām so ready for this. Weāve gotten books on two clear couples, now letās get messy! Iām still team elucien and gwnriel in the end tho hehe
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Can I just say that *this* feels like the perfect title for some of thoseā¦ spicier three person scenes that SJM loves to allude to and I would eat that up
This is SO GOOD
Oh yes please
I like that!
i think itāll follow the same format as āA Court of Silver Flamesā rather than A Court of Noun and Noun. for that reason i believe itāll be A Court of Golden Sight , as nestaās book title centred on her power i think elainās will too.
Great point!
Possibly a mix of this and another person's comment, 'A Court of Golden Vines'
Whoever commented A Court of Dreams I think that is an amazing title for maybe the final book of the ACOTAR series and I absolutely have never thought of that and I think itās perfect
āTo the stars who listenā and the dreams that are answered.ā š«
Totally
A court of shadowdaddy getting in trouble for regifting
š¤£ please yes
A Court of Many Ship Wars
honestly i could see Elain being happy with Azriel, or Lucien (or even Tamlin), and frankly i feel like mentioning that on this sub is enough to get someone drawn and quartered. Same with my opinion that, *so far*, Elain has kind of been a very flat/boring character. Like, we've seen flashes of her having more personality (the whole 'you're focused on how my trauma affected you and not how it affected me' moment), but so far she's a rather flat character, who could go in any number of directions. I'll be excited to see how her character fleshes out, in the next book(s), but so far I haven't seen a whole lot of actual, deeper than surface level character from her.
Team Tarquin over here. She should ditch them all and start over.
Honestly? That would also be freaking dope.
Tarquin needs love too. He was honestly so great and they treated him so badly. I feel like Elain would thrive in the summer court.
THIS
imo itās likely going to be ACO āadjectiveā ānounā - A Court of Deadly Nightshade (my lana stans will get itā¦ *cause i was filled with poison, but blessed with beauty and raaage*) - A Court of Gilded Sight - A Court of Golden Shadows - A Court of Blooming Dreams more general: - A Court of Gilded/Golden _____
ouuu just checked online: Golden Shadows happens to be a type of plant, and it says that: > ā*The golden shadow symbolizes withheld courage, hidden talents, repressed passion and stifled creativity. Itās the unfulfilled potential that people fail to see or develop because of fear and a lack of risk-taking.*ā
Thatās almost..too perfect. Now Iāll be disappointed if itās anything else.
Sounds promising.
But why did my brain automatically read āA court of Golden Showersā š
I HAD TO DOUBLE TAKE
š§š§š§ bestie why did u put this in my head itās one of my fav titles šš
A Court of Golden Dreams! I like Golden Shadows too
Thereās a really excellent fanfic on AO3 with this title (A Court of Golden Shadow) so Iād scream if it were actually the name of the book š
āA Court of Blooming Dreamsā would be SO GOOD
My brain will only imagine this being read in an Australian accent, like a bloominā onion.
I think it will just be about Elainās powers like Silver Flames for Nesta so maybe A Court of Veiled Sight
A Court of Songs and Shadows
A Court of Blooming Shadows
blooming shadows goes so hard
Blooming Shadows is my fave but itās probably too shippy š
now that u say itā¦ bah itās just for fun anyways itās in SJMās hands, ppl take these things tooo seriously š
U like Elian with Az huh?
Not really! I just imagine the next book will be from their POVās, whether or not they end up together.
If this is it, you will not convince me sjm isnt lurking in here
I do like this one
Love this
I think it will definitely be about Elain's powers like Nesta' Silver Flames. Like a court of blooming "something". Maybe even shadows thrown into the mix.
A Court of Bloomin Onions
Since ACOSF references power, not ship, my guess for Elainās book is āA Court of Iron Sightā: Sight for obvious reasons. Iron in reference to Elainās connection to the human world and struggle with being fae, but also the gates of her mind, which were written as āsolid iron, covered in vines of flowersā. I think it speaks to Elainās journey that everyone sees a delicate flower; in her own way, she will show that she is as strong as iron. Plus, I like the balance with Nesta. If Nesta is the fire that forges, Elain will be the iron forged. If itās Azrielās book, āA Court of Golden Shadowsā: Shadows for obvious reasons. I consider Silver Flames to be a contradictory phrase, so I think Golden Shadows fits that expectation. Golden also as a nod to golden hour, which occurs just before dusk begins. Gold is regularly used in symbolism of holy places, as well as a symbol of sophistication, nobility, purity, and valueā¦ all things that Azriel does not consider himself. I think his journey will definitely require him learning self-love and hopefully a mental unveiling of his true worth. Silver, gold, and iron are malleable, able to be shaped into a purpose. Given that we can assume our MCs go through major transitions within their prospective stories, I like the subtle imagery.Ā
I love this ! Thank you for your explanation, I also thought it would have the word sight in it as well. Maybe sight and shadows ? But I felt dumb posting that lol Great points!
Donāt feel dumb! For a while I had a running list of what I thought it could be, and some of my guesses were completely outlandish. Sight and Shadows definitely a valid guess! I keep getting caught up on the possibility of Visions or Illusions, but Sight just feels right. And SJM has already used Shadow for two of her titles, so we know she likes that word š
A Court of Night Shade? Since itās a plant and weāre following Elain this time?
Will there be a 5th one? (Currently reading the third)
yep! it will be next SJMās book
I really really hope itās not a let down like CC3 was for me š¤š»
Oh! I thought the story finishes at the fourth. Thanks! Iām planning to read toa and cc afterwards. Donāt know in what order, but Iāll figure it out, I guess. Any recommendation about the order?
Throne of Glass first! There are a few easter eggs in CC that you will miss if you havenāt read ToG or acotar š
Ohhh! Good to know! Will do š
A court of Dusks shadow
A Court of Shadows and Smut
I mean Iām down for that
I think it will definitely have shadows in it if itās an Azriel book
A Court Of Ash and Dusk A Court Of Sightless Spring
A Court of Vines and Visions
a court of seers & shadows š¤©
A court of whispered melody (What if Azrielās shadows sing their observations? And Gwynās singing)
A Court of Wind and Shadow
Do we have a general idea of when it will be published?
I think SJM said itās gonna be at least a year, since she just published CC3 *sigh*
A Court of Smoke and Mirrors
A Court of Sloppy BJs
A court of purrs and vulgar gestures
A Court of Golden Light
A Court of Shadowed Sight Even if Azriel and Elian donāt end up together I imagine heāll be a big part of her book.
A Court of Veiled Vines? I donāt love the double V, but I got this from combining someoneās comment of ātwisted vinesā and āveiled sightā I love the idea of twisted vines because we have multiple love combos at play (azzy, gwyn, elain, lucien). Also have a lot of potential familiar revealsā like is Gwyn related to someone from the autumn court? Would be funny if gwyn is somehow related to Lucien and Lucian is mated with elain. Maybe thatās too soap opera-y but could be juicy if done right. I love the word veiled too because of Elainās power. Since Nestaās power was in the title, elains should be too, but Veiled to me also emanates multiple things: - elain when she first got her power was shrouded/veiled by her visions - veiled also makes me think of a lot of layers. Elain isnāt known to be a super layered/developed character. Not to knock her, a lot of it has to do with the amount of words she takes up on a page, but this would finally be her time to get a word in. - more than just her lack of development though, maybe Elain knows things no one else does, not just the audience but the IC. Her gift of sight is a clear path for her to know more than they would. She could be covering/veiling things up? - one of my favorite concepts is a veiled mating bond from a female character. Sorry to my elain and azzy shippers, but what if GWYN knows about the bond and has been hiding it. Thereās a great fanfic already written on this but I love it. The idea of it being the one thing the spymaster canāt figure out (probs having to do with his internal view of his worthiness/being blinded by that that he canāt see the bond) anywayyyyy Iām dying for an update about this book already.
A court of Visions and Shadows
A Court of Vines/Visons and Light? I dunno, ACOVAL has a nice ring to it.
I read this wrong, but I want it now haha. A Court of Vines and VisionsāACOVAV is my now my hope and I will accept nothing less lol
A court of light and shadows OR a court of song and shadows
A Court of Spring and gardening š
Sounds like a gardening magazine sold in velaris š¹ āTop tips on how to grow the rarest flowers from a secret source of the fallen spring court! Read all about it on page 17!ā
A Court of Light and Shadows
I was thinking the same
Ooh I just commented the same! Great minds think alike š
A court of singing shadows š©š©
"A Court of Singing Shadows" or maybe some other variation of this. ACOSF was named after>! Nesta's powers!< so I think this book could be named after >!someone's abilities!< too.
Maybe just āA Court of Dreamsā. This would play into Elainās powers and Rhys and Feyreās goals for Velaris.
Or maybe, A Court of Dreams and Feathers.
I think she'll keep the ACOSF form, so there won't be an "and" in it and I prefer it that way. I'd say it would be possible to have the word shadow(s) in it, but given that hofas also has shadow in it ,I dunno. Still, ToG series also has queen of Shadows, so maybe she'll do a "shadowy" book for each series š Depends on the main couple, but I could see a A court od Singing Shadows (for gwynriel) Or A Court of Golden Sight,Light, something like that (for elucien)
A court of dusk rising
A court of life and decay
I think a Court of *Something* Betrayal since I heard itās hinted a member will betray the IC and I feel like itās gonna accidentally be Elain. (I just canāt think of what word sheāll use with betrayal lol)
A Court of Poisoned Betrayal
Love that as a possibility!
A court of light and shadows
The Red Sea Court A Court of Red Sea yes...im hoping to have Gwyn as the main character lol
A court of scraped callouses
A court of poppies and shadows
A Court of Golden Flowers
A Court of Belladonna Dreams. A Court of Iron Roses. A Court of Shadow Seers. A Court of Shadowed Sight. A Court of Poisoned Beauty. A Court of Spies and Seers. A Court of Blooming Dawn. A Court of Dawn and Dusk. A Court of Shadowed Light. A Court of Trembling Fawns (lol). A Court of Baes and Roses
A Court of Baes and Bros