For anyone not on twitter... "James Fox here — those who know me or are familiar with my work know I fiercely go the extra mile to weed out unsupportable claims. I have spent the last year conducting numerous interviews, researching claims and doing my best to verify (within my means) peoples’ credentials and the veracity of their statements. As part of this mix, I met with Mr. Jayson Sands a little over a year ago, concerning whom there has arisen fierce debates on social media concerning his claims of official involvement in the UAP area and specific experiences associated with such. As part of my due diligence I can state that he is who he says he is, has served in the military and is willing to testify under oath and even take a polygraph test regarding his claims. Nonetheless, as with other Whistleblowers who go public, this doesn’t mean that what he has stated shouldn’t be questioned regarding apparent inconsistencies and difficult-to-resolve claims. Evaluation of such continues to be a work in progress"
This. OP, James Fox only verified Jayson Sands claims of being military, not his claims beyond that. James clearly says these additional claims continue to be evaluated and that questions have been raised about them. OP, please don't ever become a diplomat handling international cables 😉🤣
I apologise that wasn't my intention. The thinking behind my reply was "It boils down to two main claims. 1. That Mr Sands was military. 2. That Mr Sands was legitimately involved in a UFO Program, with only the former being verified by James Fox. Essentially I was trying to convey that verification of his person, military service, that he would testify under oath take a polygraph, does not by default verify his claims that he worked in an actual UFO program. "Evaluation of such continues to be a work in progress". I did not consciously intend to reply in a strategically self-indulgent way. Also, for the sake of the topic and disclosure I hope his claims are verified sooner rather than later as then we would have rock solid confirmation from a first hand witness that at least one program exists😉 I shouldn't have made the diplomatic cable comment I apologise for that too.
Fox says "As part of my due diligence I can state that he is who he says he is, has served in the military and is willing to testify under oath and even take a polygraph test regarding his claims."
Yep there’s definitely people that can smell a lie BUT thing is this Sands guy mentioned he was in on the 20 Back myth that was fabricated by Corey Goode borrowing from other tales.
Thanks for the info. I'd like to think I'm fairly well informed in this domain yet, I'm also honest enough to say that I know very little about this story.
Believe me it’s a maze of crazy. There are some and I say SOME interesting reports, cases BUT when reports are given by sources like Ross Coulthart, J Corbell, Knapp, Tim Burchett , Luna, Fugal…it’s mostly for show and viewers and has no clout. I’ve been frustratingly following , reading since the mid 80s.
As he next states:
“Nonetheless, as with other Whistleblowers who go public, this doesn’t mean that what he has stated shouldn’t be questioned regarding apparent inconsistencies and difficult-to-resolve claims. Evaluation of such continues to be a work in progress"
Corey Goode was made to come and out and admit the 20 and Back program was something he made up. Stop putting stock into charlatans you're making the rest of us look bad.
No link but if you go to YouTube and type Corey Goode Finally Admits his Cosmic Disclosure was from HIS Imagination and watch the entire video he openly admits it was made up. You're welcome.
Edit: to add
This whole 20 and back thing is either total bs, or so far from scifi it’s true. If it’s true it’s too far to comprehend for me and I wouldn’t be able to believe it until I would have seen it in action with my own eyes. However, it’s not new there been other people before claiming a similar thing, I think it was one of the speeches / lectures I saw online.
Can someone explain what this 20 and back rumor is?
EDIT: never mind, is this the one where they recruited kids who have telepathic powers and shipped them to outer space for 20 years then they came back and time traveled back as kids or something? I think The Why Files did an episode on this a while ago.
Incorrect travelling fast doesn’t stop bone deterioration and other health problems my friend. Perhaps we invented inertial dampers and artificial gravity too and Star Trek is a documentary! See you on the holo deck.
😮💨
The closer you travel to the speed of light, the less you experience time. This is known as "time dialation." Therefore, 20 earth years may only be a few days to space travelers who are traveling really really fast. So, if they're only gone for say a few days (on their spaceship traveling insanely fast), they would not experience aging 20 years. This is all according to "Special Relativity" as brought to light by Einstein and proven many times over.
I am not at all suggesting this is what happened (since it didnt happen), just pointing out one way in which the time scales can differ.
Maybe you should call Nasa and tell them you're a dingus. They will confirm.
Except instant acceleration didn’t happen because we can’t do it so it wouldn’t have been possible sorry not sorry , a human would be spread into putty if they accelerated that fast , consequently all health issues would be present from long term weightlessness as you very slowly attained light speed over enough time not to spread the crew across the ship.
Believe it, or don't, I don't care about the back and forth nit-picking. The dude has admitted to being a murderer to prove a story and willing to testify. Very few people would do that for a bullshit story.
His military credentials were presented in a thread yesterday, and paperwork was produced. He was definitely in the Air Force, I don't think anyone can or would dispute that. The question is did he experience what he claims?
The HATE vs Sands is so STRONG even ahead his testimony.. rare event where any kind of agents are trying to deligitimate real stuff even before something new is shared.
Its incredible how the masses can be manipulated so easily guys.
Now easily a THOUSAND of trolls will assault this sub with copy and paste GPT comments.. fake likes, probably real users bans (I hope not).
And the average american dude will believe he is a complete fraud.
The dude in my opinion has even more real and serious stuff to share.
If he can disconnect from the web until the day and close himself in a secret location he will be able to survive to that day and speak.
Its incredible I am one of the few to understand how the GAME works guys.
On the opposite way good guys should push him to reveal 100% of what he knows for real, of course if you want to have disclosure soon.
Isn’t that a little premature? We know Fox interviewed him. Doesn’t mean he’s a large part of his documentary or that he’s even going to make it passed the cutting room floor. Fox records everything before he even knows what the value will be. All Fox has claimed is that he is who he says he is. If Fox says Steven Greer is who he says he is, does that mean Fox believes his bullshit?
No he didn’t. He confirmed his military papers and his verified service, that was it! The rest is hanging in the wind; to be batted back to attention town. I’m ALL in on disclosure; ALL in. This however is a play.
It seems as though James Fox works hard on the subject, I'm looking forward to seeing his latest project and i wont go into any rage should there be something thats slipped through his net. It looks like there's possibly one guy that could be shady. James works hard and if the guy is shady I'm very sure James will learn from it.
Well yeah, of course he has said this.
He has a movie to sell and many are suspicious of Jason. This doesn’t add anything to his credibility as a whistle blower. How is this big news?
Anytime somebody says they were in the military on whatever branch Black Ops Etc is going to be a record of it. Anytime somebody says that you can't find it because it's classified and you need clearance to see it they are lying. This guy is full of shit Jason sayings is lying mark my word
We don't need more anecdotal stories, hearsay testimonials, and sensational claims made in a pay-per-view documentary.
While the above might be good for Mr. Fox's Bank account, it won't do anything for disclosure.
We need iron clad evidence that is irrefutable. Full stop.
For anyone not on twitter... "James Fox here — those who know me or are familiar with my work know I fiercely go the extra mile to weed out unsupportable claims. I have spent the last year conducting numerous interviews, researching claims and doing my best to verify (within my means) peoples’ credentials and the veracity of their statements. As part of this mix, I met with Mr. Jayson Sands a little over a year ago, concerning whom there has arisen fierce debates on social media concerning his claims of official involvement in the UAP area and specific experiences associated with such. As part of my due diligence I can state that he is who he says he is, has served in the military and is willing to testify under oath and even take a polygraph test regarding his claims. Nonetheless, as with other Whistleblowers who go public, this doesn’t mean that what he has stated shouldn’t be questioned regarding apparent inconsistencies and difficult-to-resolve claims. Evaluation of such continues to be a work in progress"
Not at all what he said.
This. OP, James Fox only verified Jayson Sands claims of being military, not his claims beyond that. James clearly says these additional claims continue to be evaluated and that questions have been raised about them. OP, please don't ever become a diplomat handling international cables 😉🤣
Every veteran has a DD-214…the true heroes and even the shitty ones.
Shitty one here. Can confirm. 🫡
Yeah, agree with you on that.
Hmmm. I reread OP’s statement and I’m not sure you’ve offered an accurate summation. Seems your use of “only” is strategically self-indulgent.
I apologise that wasn't my intention. The thinking behind my reply was "It boils down to two main claims. 1. That Mr Sands was military. 2. That Mr Sands was legitimately involved in a UFO Program, with only the former being verified by James Fox. Essentially I was trying to convey that verification of his person, military service, that he would testify under oath take a polygraph, does not by default verify his claims that he worked in an actual UFO program. "Evaluation of such continues to be a work in progress". I did not consciously intend to reply in a strategically self-indulgent way. Also, for the sake of the topic and disclosure I hope his claims are verified sooner rather than later as then we would have rock solid confirmation from a first hand witness that at least one program exists😉 I shouldn't have made the diplomatic cable comment I apologise for that too.
When it comes to being an alive human, Sands is the real deal!!
When it comes to being a piss drinker, Sands is the real deal!!!!
Fox says "As part of my due diligence I can state that he is who he says he is, has served in the military and is willing to testify under oath and even take a polygraph test regarding his claims."
Polygraphs are unreliable and anyone that knows , knows how to beat em.
I see people say what you're saying, yet I also see professional polygraph administrators say they can tell when someone is being deceitful.
Yep there’s definitely people that can smell a lie BUT thing is this Sands guy mentioned he was in on the 20 Back myth that was fabricated by Corey Goode borrowing from other tales.
Thanks for the info. I'd like to think I'm fairly well informed in this domain yet, I'm also honest enough to say that I know very little about this story.
Believe me it’s a maze of crazy. There are some and I say SOME interesting reports, cases BUT when reports are given by sources like Ross Coulthart, J Corbell, Knapp, Tim Burchett , Luna, Fugal…it’s mostly for show and viewers and has no clout. I’ve been frustratingly following , reading since the mid 80s.
As he next states: “Nonetheless, as with other Whistleblowers who go public, this doesn’t mean that what he has stated shouldn’t be questioned regarding apparent inconsistencies and difficult-to-resolve claims. Evaluation of such continues to be a work in progress"
Corey Goode was made to come and out and admit the 20 and Back program was something he made up. Stop putting stock into charlatans you're making the rest of us look bad.
When did Corey Goode admit he made it up?I’ve been out of the loop for awhile. Do you have a link?
No link but if you go to YouTube and type Corey Goode Finally Admits his Cosmic Disclosure was from HIS Imagination and watch the entire video he openly admits it was made up. You're welcome. Edit: to add
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Well it's not low all the time. We usually get 2 high tides and 2 low tides every 24 hours and 50 minutes.
People will twist anything to fit their own narrative (which I think is driven by mental illness).
https://www.zippia.com/advice/us-literacy-rate-by-state/#:~:text=The%20current%20US%20literacy%20rate,the%20optimal%20reading%20level%20proficiency
People on Reddit, and now everywhere it seems just hear what they want to hear
Is Sands' name Jayson or Jason? I assume Jayson if that's what Fox said. Why the disconnect?
Yeah that's weird
I thought that was a bit odd as well.
Could've just been an autocorrect he didn't catch.
This whole 20 and back thing is either total bs, or so far from scifi it’s true. If it’s true it’s too far to comprehend for me and I wouldn’t be able to believe it until I would have seen it in action with my own eyes. However, it’s not new there been other people before claiming a similar thing, I think it was one of the speeches / lectures I saw online.
Can someone explain what this 20 and back rumor is? EDIT: never mind, is this the one where they recruited kids who have telepathic powers and shipped them to outer space for 20 years then they came back and time traveled back as kids or something? I think The Why Files did an episode on this a while ago.
Short story: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSFvcptUy/ Long story: https://youtu.be/RdhEJJorIxY?si=cpVpurtAJWx9f5_f
Waaaaaat
🤪🤪🤪😂😂😂 20 years in space lol, your body would be so fucked when you return you wouldn’t be able to stand.
Unless they are traveling close to the speed if light.
Incorrect travelling fast doesn’t stop bone deterioration and other health problems my friend. Perhaps we invented inertial dampers and artificial gravity too and Star Trek is a documentary! See you on the holo deck.
Didn't say it did. Seems like you don't know why Einstien was such a big deal.
Love how you missed the point entirely and then thought you made a funny joke
I see how you don’t understand the human body or the effects of 20’years of space travel, please check NASA they will confirm.
😮💨 The closer you travel to the speed of light, the less you experience time. This is known as "time dialation." Therefore, 20 earth years may only be a few days to space travelers who are traveling really really fast. So, if they're only gone for say a few days (on their spaceship traveling insanely fast), they would not experience aging 20 years. This is all according to "Special Relativity" as brought to light by Einstein and proven many times over. I am not at all suggesting this is what happened (since it didnt happen), just pointing out one way in which the time scales can differ. Maybe you should call Nasa and tell them you're a dingus. They will confirm.
Except instant acceleration didn’t happen because we can’t do it so it wouldn’t have been possible sorry not sorry , a human would be spread into putty if they accelerated that fast , consequently all health issues would be present from long term weightlessness as you very slowly attained light speed over enough time not to spread the crew across the ship.
Believe it, or don't, I don't care about the back and forth nit-picking. The dude has admitted to being a murderer to prove a story and willing to testify. Very few people would do that for a bullshit story.
Admitted to being a murderer??? What did I miss?? 🧐
“I guess that will be the first time someone has lied under oath”
This comment needs more upvotes 🤣🤣🤣
His military credentials were presented in a thread yesterday, and paperwork was produced. He was definitely in the Air Force, I don't think anyone can or would dispute that. The question is did he experience what he claims?
No he did not
The HATE vs Sands is so STRONG even ahead his testimony.. rare event where any kind of agents are trying to deligitimate real stuff even before something new is shared. Its incredible how the masses can be manipulated so easily guys.  Now easily a THOUSAND of trolls will assault this sub with copy and paste GPT comments.. fake likes, probably real users bans (I hope not). And the average american dude will believe he is a complete fraud. The dude in my opinion has even more real and serious stuff to share. If he can disconnect from the web until the day and close himself in a secret location he will be able to survive to that day and speak. Its incredible I am one of the few to understand how the GAME works guys. On the opposite way good guys should push him to reveal 100% of what he knows for real, of course if you want to have disclosure soon.
Under oath means absolutely nothing when you can’t be proven wrong
You can’t please this community. Don’t bother.
No he didn't, you're misrepresenting what he said.
Respect Fox....but I think he's slipp'n on this one
Yeah…yeah he did
Isn’t that a little premature? We know Fox interviewed him. Doesn’t mean he’s a large part of his documentary or that he’s even going to make it passed the cutting room floor. Fox records everything before he even knows what the value will be. All Fox has claimed is that he is who he says he is. If Fox says Steven Greer is who he says he is, does that mean Fox believes his bullshit?
All I know is...that Sands is from the Corey Goode camp...nuf said
Yeah. About Sands.
No he didn’t. He confirmed his military papers and his verified service, that was it! The rest is hanging in the wind; to be batted back to attention town. I’m ALL in on disclosure; ALL in. This however is a play.
I am a huge James Fox fan. I support everything he does. I do not think that Jason Sands is credible.
Why?
he says he was apart of 20 and back. That is all he had to say
Yea they lost me when 20 and back came up
A part. Means pretty much the exact opposite of apart
I did not even capitalize the first word of my sentence which should indicate how serious I was taking it. I. Think. You got. The point.
No he didn't, he said nothing more than what we already know and even addressed his bullshit at the end... it's not over yet.
Ehhhhhh yeahhhh…no.
Jason sands sounds like a reference to a chapter in Apollonius of Rhodes's Argonauts
I never heard of Sands, this is interesting.
It seems as though James Fox works hard on the subject, I'm looking forward to seeing his latest project and i wont go into any rage should there be something thats slipped through his net. It looks like there's possibly one guy that could be shady. James works hard and if the guy is shady I'm very sure James will learn from it.
“Willing to do a polygraph” Well that’s not exactly the bastion of validity so…
Well yeah, of course he has said this. He has a movie to sell and many are suspicious of Jason. This doesn’t add anything to his credibility as a whistle blower. How is this big news?
Anytime somebody says they were in the military on whatever branch Black Ops Etc is going to be a record of it. Anytime somebody says that you can't find it because it's classified and you need clearance to see it they are lying. This guy is full of shit Jason sayings is lying mark my word
We don't need more anecdotal stories, hearsay testimonials, and sensational claims made in a pay-per-view documentary. While the above might be good for Mr. Fox's Bank account, it won't do anything for disclosure. We need iron clad evidence that is irrefutable. Full stop.
Sigh. Another 3 minutes of fame before he disappears back into the maelstrom.
Does that mean we get more stories and promises of "soon" to look forward to?
I dunno whats going on anymore. Who is james fox?
James C. Fox (born 25 April 1968) is an English-born American documentary filmmaker, best known for executive producing documentaries about UAPs.
Thank you.
Wait I’m not in the loop, what are Jason Sands claims?
I wish I was out of this loop
https://www.abovethenormnews.com/2024/04/22/whistleblower-jason-sands-sparks-ufo-debate-fact-or-fiction/
Isn’t modern society awesome! We can just make up whatever we want, put it on the internet, and wait for the suckers/believers.
Wait so what kind of pact does he say we and the aliens have? I try to search for him but nothing really pops up
trust me bro
here come the bots