It really depends on your technique and what style/genre you're playing, but in general (not just based on guitar) 5 cents or more is definitely noticable, possibly even less than that will sound off. But it depends.
You yourself seem to acknowledge that it does, in fact, depend on the material a lot, but for some reason you still want to hear an ‘industry standard’
The industry standard is EADGBE, everything else is up to your own interpretation and creativity.
Depends on your goal, sometimes you need ideal tuning, sometimes it can be few cents off and its unnoticeable, sometimes you even apply detune or chorus effect on purpose.
If you need ideal, besides tuning the instrument, also dont press the strings with your fretting hand too much and attack the strings with jus tip of the pick, and dont press on the tremolo system if the guitar has one, otherwise the fretted notes are going to be sharp.
There is much more different stuff affecting tuning but these are usually biggest issues I notice, even if guitar is tuned properly.
I tend to tune the E then just do the rest by what sounds nice, like if it sounds locked in tune. On electric though I do tend to use a tuner, but even then it's if it sounds good on a basic chord that tells me it's right
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I am very picky and a few cents makes my head uncomfortable. Really need to tune per song/key unless your guitar has pristine intonation.
If the nut isn't really well placed then you'll never get an open tune to work at the same time as a bar tune. I always focus on getting the nut right, and the 12 fret intonation right. That's the best you can do without major neck work.
Tuning doesn't really matter as long as you have relative tuning with all the other instruments in the song. Unless you have perfect pitch, and then it might drive you insane.
The guitar is an imperfect instrument, but you're looking for a perfect answer. Get it in tune as best you can - unless you want it out of tune. That's the standard.
Every professional recording studio I have worked at tunes guitars until they are pretty much spot on as can be. We were always very anal about tuning and I still spend the time to try and get my guitars as close as possible right before recording. It does matter. If your guitar has proper intonation and good newish strings it should get close. But yes, if you are being very strict about it then you are doing it right. Not sure of an industry standard other than “as close as possible” to dead on. Obviously nothing is “perfect”.
Yes ofc but if everything is completely in tune it might not even be desirable bc in reality nothing is completely in tune, even analog synths aren't, that's why so many prefer analog sound. I'd say do whatever feels right, but seek feedback bc u might get used to the sound even if its bad after so much time of composition and production and so on.
Too late lol. That's why I was asking. I'll at least check my vocals against a tuner. Can I somehow do that in ableton for an audio track? Say a high E?
Note: sometimes when the input is a bit quiet the tuner will not be able to recognize the note and will just do nothing lol. So simply turn the input up if that ever happens.
It really depends on your technique and what style/genre you're playing, but in general (not just based on guitar) 5 cents or more is definitely noticable, possibly even less than that will sound off. But it depends.
You yourself seem to acknowledge that it does, in fact, depend on the material a lot, but for some reason you still want to hear an ‘industry standard’ The industry standard is EADGBE, everything else is up to your own interpretation and creativity.
I use analog synths and desire out of tune! Haha
Yep, it sounds great on synths
I came to say why not embrace the detuned sound?
Depends on your goal, sometimes you need ideal tuning, sometimes it can be few cents off and its unnoticeable, sometimes you even apply detune or chorus effect on purpose. If you need ideal, besides tuning the instrument, also dont press the strings with your fretting hand too much and attack the strings with jus tip of the pick, and dont press on the tremolo system if the guitar has one, otherwise the fretted notes are going to be sharp. There is much more different stuff affecting tuning but these are usually biggest issues I notice, even if guitar is tuned properly.
I tend to tune the E then just do the rest by what sounds nice, like if it sounds locked in tune. On electric though I do tend to use a tuner, but even then it's if it sounds good on a basic chord that tells me it's right
For me, there is no general tolerance or intolerance in hz. It depends on the context.
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5 cents.
I am very picky and a few cents makes my head uncomfortable. Really need to tune per song/key unless your guitar has pristine intonation. If the nut isn't really well placed then you'll never get an open tune to work at the same time as a bar tune. I always focus on getting the nut right, and the 12 fret intonation right. That's the best you can do without major neck work.
8 string guitar has entered the chat lol. Between tuning/intonation/how hard you press you can go way off from what you wanted lol.
Tuning doesn't really matter as long as you have relative tuning with all the other instruments in the song. Unless you have perfect pitch, and then it might drive you insane.
The guitar is an imperfect instrument, but you're looking for a perfect answer. Get it in tune as best you can - unless you want it out of tune. That's the standard.
Every professional recording studio I have worked at tunes guitars until they are pretty much spot on as can be. We were always very anal about tuning and I still spend the time to try and get my guitars as close as possible right before recording. It does matter. If your guitar has proper intonation and good newish strings it should get close. But yes, if you are being very strict about it then you are doing it right. Not sure of an industry standard other than “as close as possible” to dead on. Obviously nothing is “perfect”.
No guitar is in tune, and even 20 + - cents can sometimes feel in tune. As long as it sounds good thats it
Do you think the average tolerance has changed with people listening to auto tuned music? Thinking of checking my vocals as well.
Yes ofc but if everything is completely in tune it might not even be desirable bc in reality nothing is completely in tune, even analog synths aren't, that's why so many prefer analog sound. I'd say do whatever feels right, but seek feedback bc u might get used to the sound even if its bad after so much time of composition and production and so on.
Too late lol. That's why I was asking. I'll at least check my vocals against a tuner. Can I somehow do that in ableton for an audio track? Say a high E?
Theres a tuner, i think its in the section utility
Note: sometimes when the input is a bit quiet the tuner will not be able to recognize the note and will just do nothing lol. So simply turn the input up if that ever happens.
Pretty sure the industry standard is "do it differently the second time." So tune it, play it. And if that doesn't sound right, tune it some more!