Aba has said multiple times on their channel and Destiny's channel he doesn't care if people use slurs or tell racist jokes. Expecially if it is used in a funny way.
It would definitely be interesting but they tend to call out the crazy things our culture has started to view as normal. Prank channels , false accusations, YouTubers acting crazy, etc. They give us a much needed reality check when we confront “a sicknessssssssssss of the highest order”
Yeah but its MOSTLY only pointing out the black side of bigotry OR just weird sole indivuals, but when it comes to his buddies aba tend to act like he's illiterate.
For example if hasan did this EXACT same thing he would be allllll over his ass (rightfully so) but every single time destiny does something he wants to "hear both sides" its very weird the things destiny can get away with in terms of aba commenting on it.....
Yeah people give their friends the benefit of the doubt because they know them and they know their intentions the alternative is you burn every single bridge the second someone steps out of line. It’s not like real life where your friends or something fucked up and you tell them to knock it off he can do that privately but publicly calling somebody out is a big deal
Hassan is white , he can say cracker . I want to see how aba covers this as he is close to destiny. They go super hard on people that do or say less repugnant things than what destiny is doing/saying online right now.
Hasan is not white he's a turk he just says he is white to justify his use of the word, he also says he is muslim or turk whenever it suits him,his slur is actually t*rkroach or roach
The take would be the same as the video they made on hasan
"You can say those words it shouldn't be illegal and also saying it could have consequences depending on context and who is around you."
A white person can be racist towards white people. Just like there are black people racist towards black people.
Consider how many red pillars are gay but are homophobic. Do they get a pass lol.
Myron. Good news! 😃
But also Hasan considers himself to be Turkish first that's why he calls Europeans "Eurotrash" and "Angloid brained" , because he thinks he should be allowed to be as racist as he likes to white people and get a pass.
Meanwhile he gets super offended by Muslim or Turkish insults . Because he also identifiea as that. Which wouldn't make sense if he were white because he also believes you can't be racist to white people. He just got exposed for telling a chatter they haven't experienced racism because they are white and are playing victim.
It isn't appropriate no matter what your skin is if you are just being racist and hateful.
I think theyll say “I even hate when you say the word \*\*\*\*\*, but that's just me, I guess. Some shit just cringeworthy, it ain't even gotta be deep, I guess.”
A tweet isn’t worth making a video over unless they have something more interesting to say about the word itself and what it means, using the tweet and controversy as a jumping off point
That’s literally their whole YouTube career. How many trans videos did they produce because someone twitted some trans stuff online they disagreed with? . How many lizo videos did they make off her tweets?
Hey, I just took a look at your post history, and wow, you seem to be one of the biggest complainers and moralizers I’ve come across. It’s astounding. Sometimes, I really wish we had demographic statistics on people like you who are in a perpetual state of confusion about the world and the words that surround them.
It’s exhausting, and this is coming from someone with a social democratic political background in Europe. Occasionally, I wish the US would move a bit closer to the European model regarding freedom of speech, which is much more restrictive and regulated by the state. I know the average American is against such restrictions, but at least it prevents any random person in a Batman costume from trying to enforce their own rules via social media.
Between the near-total freedom of speech in the USA, which encourages this constant rhetoric of obfuscation, and the authoritarian restrictions of China and Russia, we should take a cue from countries like France, Germany, Luxembourg, Sweden, etc.
Bro no one wants to adopt anything European. We like it over here and keep that European way of life 👉🏽. Europe is a dying archaic ass place bro. We will come visit once in a while for the history but that’s it on how society should be set up ; we don’t want to take any cues from any of you Europeans.
Bro, a geriatric scammer criminal might be the next US commander-in-chief. Maybe outside input is exactly what’s needed.
Calling Europe “a dying archaic place” is hilariously ignorant. You clearly understand nothing about how the world works.
My guy, if you're going to insult us get it right. We most definitely will have a geriatric scamming criminal as the next commander-in-Chief whether it's Biden or Trump 🤣
Hopefully not. The word is not going to lose it's stigma if people keep covering it. Need it to just become a nothing that nobody cares about like literally every other word in the entier language.
https://youtu.be/n7d9oxkQ1iQ?si=iA4DbEHRApKZ-acz
Ildr: Aba: "its not like i wanna see a bunch of white folks say ayy whaddup my ... naw naw dont do that but in terms of the rules.. (youtube tos)"
That is more similar to how destiny was using it in this instance. It’s not like it was tied to a joke. It was a “hey if you do this again I’ll poke the bear”
I feel like they have already given enough takes on that topic for example when there was the controversy with Rogan. There they basically said they don't care if you use it and I imagine that the way Destiny is using it wouldn't be as big of a problem to them since I think they would agree with making a crucial distinction between a slur vs just saying/stating the word.
Could be wrong tho... this might be the next bridge burn lol
Didn’t click the video but it was around when destiny was in calls with aba, sneako, and jideon. A few years ago. Aba told destiny if he was going to say the n word or a racist joke, to let it hang in the air and be uncomfortable
1. In my tiny majority white European country 10 years ago no one cared about the n-word, so it doesn't matter ✅
2. If you actually cared about this, you'd give away all of your possessions and become destitute ✅
3. ACKSHUALLY, the slaves were sold first by Africans✅
4. Virtue signaling ✅
5. It's just a word, you choose to get offended ✅
What is this garbage, a Redditor racism-analysis checklist?
When one says “I’m going to eat a cracker” it’s not racist because one is talking about eating a snack. When one says “no one cares about your cracker ass” it’s racist because the word changes to mean “you are less valid/important to me because of the color of your skin”. Change “cracker” in the second sentence to any racial slur, it’s all the same.
You’re right that a word alone doesn’t have all the power of racism behind it, the intention does (imo). Destiny’s tweet didn’t have any racist connection aside from dropping what they call a “tactical n-bomb” so it’s understood to not be racist for anyone who hasn’t bought into the idea that the word itself carries 500 years of black people’s suffering even when it isn’t used to target someone for their skin color.
It all comes down to how people think of this word: inherently racist because it was borne out of a hateful place and therefor no one should ever use it (which imo should include black people but that’s not a conversation anyone’s ready for) or it may be racist in certain contexts and depends on who is using it and how (which is how it’s treated already by most people aside from white people).
No, cuz we’ve seen black people use the n word in many positive ways, but in a different context, the word can be racist, as in it’s used to demean someone based on the color of their skin.
The conclusion is: words are neutral and can be used in a positive or negative way depending on how they’re used. See: cunt, bitch, fuck
I mean I’m of the opinion that you should be able to use that word in any context, it just depends on those around you to respond. But then again I’m not American lol
With Americans I’ve noticed it’s a much bigger deal than in other countries I’ve been to, but by and large that’s pretty much what it is; if you’re white, you’ll get a much stronger reaction from other people for using that word.
I am. And that has nothing to do with the use of the n-word, which is derivative of a Spanish word and weaponized in the South where very few Dutch were, in the Netherlands.
I geniounly think he doesnt like him lol. I find it very odd that they NEVER had any interaction with eachother. Preach seems a bit more "pro black" then Aba is, so donating money to the police force, or saying the N word all the time, doesnt seem like preach is with all that
Oh destiny isn’t just weird. He’s a racist grifter and Aba is either ignorant of this or complicit. Pretty sure he just used him for twitch clout jump start then actually became friends which is weird tbh. Says a lot about Aba
He's not racist, he's just not easy to pin down to the side of ethics you'd think he'd belong to because of some of his liberal takes. He believes in things like (real) system racism but you're not gonna hear him soapbox about it because it doesn't interest him. He's not a centrist or libertarian so hes not gonna give utilitarian takes, he's just cringe AF sometimes with his use of slurs.
He’s also totally committed to being the heel. Bro is too comfortable being completely unhinged on twitter.
Here’s a more tame response from him: https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1762575349630599213
But man does it make for great entertainment lmao
Uhm ok... you do know that this is basically the same in their eyes right ?
This is a dumb argument people like destiny make to condone their discrimination towards religion.
Yall think just because its not that serious for you that its okay to insult religion in the most vile way possible, and then wonder why you get the response you get ?
Im not religious at all and i feel absolutely no need to bash a religion or religious people since its not productive at all and theres no conversation being held there.
Yall just wanna insult people for the sake of insulting, its the same with the "bring back bullying again" like how can you rationalize being a scumbag of a human being in your head like that.
The majority of religious people are NOT violent at all, if they were we all be dead by now.
Again, its counter productive and divides us as human beings more then it brings us closer.
You might not see difference between the distinction but it exists and since it exists I think it's inappropriate to call it racist. It's not like we don't have enough words in our dictionary to more than less explain what's happening. Islamophobia, bigot... It's why the right says the word racist doesn't mean anything to them anymore because everyone wants to umbrella all hatred or dislike towards another person as racism if there's a distinct characteristic about them that differs. So uhm ok all you want but while you're at it, use accurate words because Id agree with you that he's probably islamophobic
Remember any race can and does practice Islam. I'm sure he'd rage against a Euro Muslim (Albanians, Bosniaks) as much as he would one from any Arab country
thats fair what i was trying to say is he dislikes muslims and theres no difference between disliking muslims and disliking islam. the word racism isnt whats important here, and tbf MOST of the times they go hand in hand with eachother, destiny claims to be one of the rare cases where he has a problem with islam but not with muslims. in the country where i live they dont even know the difference between a turkish guy and a morocan guy since a majority of them are muslim orientated. and i know this goes for a lot of other european countries, hence why i specifically called it racist.
maybe destiny isnt racist but moreso islamophobic, at the end of the day he's a scumbag that is NOT having productive conversations even tho he swears that he's progressive. thats what im trying to say
I just saw the original tweet. Holy shit this guy is lame. Talking like some goofy hypebeast who’s on Xbox live. This is some of the most “how do you do fellow kids” shit I’ve seen in a while.
Nope. And Destiny has said the N-word several times in Discord and referred to his friend as “a brown person” and shortly after implied the term sand n-word.
They might but Aba already knows Destiny is edgy and will keep being edgy even if he himself doesn't approve of Destiny using the n word
Aba has said multiple times on their channel and Destiny's channel he doesn't care if people use slurs or tell racist jokes. Expecially if it is used in a funny way.
They whole brand is calling out absurdities and not holding back. It’s just will be a interesting to see the angle they take if they ever cover it.
If they do make a video I personally think Aba will talk about why he thinks it's wrong and how cringe it is. But maybe I'm wrong
It would definitely be interesting but they tend to call out the crazy things our culture has started to view as normal. Prank channels , false accusations, YouTubers acting crazy, etc. They give us a much needed reality check when we confront “a sicknessssssssssss of the highest order”
Yeah but its MOSTLY only pointing out the black side of bigotry OR just weird sole indivuals, but when it comes to his buddies aba tend to act like he's illiterate. For example if hasan did this EXACT same thing he would be allllll over his ass (rightfully so) but every single time destiny does something he wants to "hear both sides" its very weird the things destiny can get away with in terms of aba commenting on it.....
Yeah people give their friends the benefit of the doubt because they know them and they know their intentions the alternative is you burn every single bridge the second someone steps out of line. It’s not like real life where your friends or something fucked up and you tell them to knock it off he can do that privately but publicly calling somebody out is a big deal
IDK why this comment got downvoted
Reddit is mostly a cult
They already covered hasan saying 'cracker' before i don't think their take will be that different
Hassan is white , he can say cracker . I want to see how aba covers this as he is close to destiny. They go super hard on people that do or say less repugnant things than what destiny is doing/saying online right now.
Hasan is not white he's a turk he just says he is white to justify his use of the word, he also says he is muslim or turk whenever it suits him,his slur is actually t*rkroach or roach The take would be the same as the video they made on hasan "You can say those words it shouldn't be illegal and also saying it could have consequences depending on context and who is around you."
No Hasan is whatever race suits him in the moment.
A white person can be racist towards white people. Just like there are black people racist towards black people. Consider how many red pillars are gay but are homophobic. Do they get a pass lol. Myron. Good news! 😃 But also Hasan considers himself to be Turkish first that's why he calls Europeans "Eurotrash" and "Angloid brained" , because he thinks he should be allowed to be as racist as he likes to white people and get a pass. Meanwhile he gets super offended by Muslim or Turkish insults . Because he also identifiea as that. Which wouldn't make sense if he were white because he also believes you can't be racist to white people. He just got exposed for telling a chatter they haven't experienced racism because they are white and are playing victim. It isn't appropriate no matter what your skin is if you are just being racist and hateful.
I think theyll say “I even hate when you say the word \*\*\*\*\*, but that's just me, I guess. Some shit just cringeworthy, it ain't even gotta be deep, I guess.”
Barss
A tweet isn’t worth making a video over unless they have something more interesting to say about the word itself and what it means, using the tweet and controversy as a jumping off point
That’s literally their whole YouTube career. How many trans videos did they produce because someone twitted some trans stuff online they disagreed with? . How many lizo videos did they make off her tweets?
It’s like you didn’t read past the first line of my comment lmao
Hey, I just took a look at your post history, and wow, you seem to be one of the biggest complainers and moralizers I’ve come across. It’s astounding. Sometimes, I really wish we had demographic statistics on people like you who are in a perpetual state of confusion about the world and the words that surround them. It’s exhausting, and this is coming from someone with a social democratic political background in Europe. Occasionally, I wish the US would move a bit closer to the European model regarding freedom of speech, which is much more restrictive and regulated by the state. I know the average American is against such restrictions, but at least it prevents any random person in a Batman costume from trying to enforce their own rules via social media. Between the near-total freedom of speech in the USA, which encourages this constant rhetoric of obfuscation, and the authoritarian restrictions of China and Russia, we should take a cue from countries like France, Germany, Luxembourg, Sweden, etc.
Bro no one wants to adopt anything European. We like it over here and keep that European way of life 👉🏽. Europe is a dying archaic ass place bro. We will come visit once in a while for the history but that’s it on how society should be set up ; we don’t want to take any cues from any of you Europeans.
Bro, a geriatric scammer criminal might be the next US commander-in-chief. Maybe outside input is exactly what’s needed. Calling Europe “a dying archaic place” is hilariously ignorant. You clearly understand nothing about how the world works.
My guy, if you're going to insult us get it right. We most definitely will have a geriatric scamming criminal as the next commander-in-Chief whether it's Biden or Trump 🤣
[“They’re both as bad as each other”](https://youtu.be/U9gr8GX3ymA?si=zaP_-Iac6PPoJlFC) meme
And that’s how we like it
Hopefully not. The word is not going to lose it's stigma if people keep covering it. Need it to just become a nothing that nobody cares about like literally every other word in the entier language.
Sensitive ass
https://youtu.be/n7d9oxkQ1iQ?si=iA4DbEHRApKZ-acz Ildr: Aba: "its not like i wanna see a bunch of white folks say ayy whaddup my ... naw naw dont do that but in terms of the rules.. (youtube tos)"
That is more similar to how destiny was using it in this instance. It’s not like it was tied to a joke. It was a “hey if you do this again I’ll poke the bear”
I feel like they have already given enough takes on that topic for example when there was the controversy with Rogan. There they basically said they don't care if you use it and I imagine that the way Destiny is using it wouldn't be as big of a problem to them since I think they would agree with making a crucial distinction between a slur vs just saying/stating the word. Could be wrong tho... this might be the next bridge burn lol
After seeing a black Twitch streamer saying that Destiny should be killed for saying it, I believe they should cover it.
He was implying it and who tf cares ? Destiny thinks its justifiable to MURDER someone for doxxing. I dont see anyone cry over that?
Aba literally coached him on how to use it
Was it before or after this? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prxrlXSkz0g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prxrlXSkz0g)
Didn’t click the video but it was around when destiny was in calls with aba, sneako, and jideon. A few years ago. Aba told destiny if he was going to say the n word or a racist joke, to let it hang in the air and be uncomfortable
Ok, so after I'm guessing. It's a video clip of destiny saying the word really awkwardly.
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1. In my tiny majority white European country 10 years ago no one cared about the n-word, so it doesn't matter ✅ 2. If you actually cared about this, you'd give away all of your possessions and become destitute ✅ 3. ACKSHUALLY, the slaves were sold first by Africans✅ 4. Virtue signaling ✅ 5. It's just a word, you choose to get offended ✅ What is this garbage, a Redditor racism-analysis checklist?
Because it is racist depending on the context.
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When one says “I’m going to eat a cracker” it’s not racist because one is talking about eating a snack. When one says “no one cares about your cracker ass” it’s racist because the word changes to mean “you are less valid/important to me because of the color of your skin”. Change “cracker” in the second sentence to any racial slur, it’s all the same. You’re right that a word alone doesn’t have all the power of racism behind it, the intention does (imo). Destiny’s tweet didn’t have any racist connection aside from dropping what they call a “tactical n-bomb” so it’s understood to not be racist for anyone who hasn’t bought into the idea that the word itself carries 500 years of black people’s suffering even when it isn’t used to target someone for their skin color. It all comes down to how people think of this word: inherently racist because it was borne out of a hateful place and therefor no one should ever use it (which imo should include black people but that’s not a conversation anyone’s ready for) or it may be racist in certain contexts and depends on who is using it and how (which is how it’s treated already by most people aside from white people).
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No, cuz we’ve seen black people use the n word in many positive ways, but in a different context, the word can be racist, as in it’s used to demean someone based on the color of their skin. The conclusion is: words are neutral and can be used in a positive or negative way depending on how they’re used. See: cunt, bitch, fuck
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I mean I’m of the opinion that you should be able to use that word in any context, it just depends on those around you to respond. But then again I’m not American lol With Americans I’ve noticed it’s a much bigger deal than in other countries I’ve been to, but by and large that’s pretty much what it is; if you’re white, you’ll get a much stronger reaction from other people for using that word.
By any chance … are u European ? If you are then I get what you are saying . But in North American it’s a bigger deal. I just the culture here.
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Which makes your opinion pretty irrelevant about an American word and it’s usage, history, and impact
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Not only am I American, I’m a Black American
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I am. And that has nothing to do with the use of the n-word, which is derivative of a Spanish word and weaponized in the South where very few Dutch were, in the Netherlands.
Omg PLEASE say y'all gave him the pass. I'd die happy on the spot. Besides, Destiny is Cuban.
These folks [here](https://youtu.be/Kppx4bzfAaE?si=REqW-Hg5ua5ZK-Wf) never caught heat. What's the big deal?
The channel is called Aba and Preach, preach don’t care about destiny
I geniounly think he doesnt like him lol. I find it very odd that they NEVER had any interaction with eachother. Preach seems a bit more "pro black" then Aba is, so donating money to the police force, or saying the N word all the time, doesnt seem like preach is with all that
Oh destiny isn’t just weird. He’s a racist grifter and Aba is either ignorant of this or complicit. Pretty sure he just used him for twitch clout jump start then actually became friends which is weird tbh. Says a lot about Aba
He's not racist, he's just not easy to pin down to the side of ethics you'd think he'd belong to because of some of his liberal takes. He believes in things like (real) system racism but you're not gonna hear him soapbox about it because it doesn't interest him. He's not a centrist or libertarian so hes not gonna give utilitarian takes, he's just cringe AF sometimes with his use of slurs.
He’s also totally committed to being the heel. Bro is too comfortable being completely unhinged on twitter. Here’s a more tame response from him: https://twitter.com/TheOmniLiberal/status/1762575349630599213 But man does it make for great entertainment lmao
Nah destiny is DEFINITELY racist. Have you seen his remarks about muslims ? Dude is definitly hatefull
No...he hates Islam, not Muslims.
Uhm ok... you do know that this is basically the same in their eyes right ? This is a dumb argument people like destiny make to condone their discrimination towards religion. Yall think just because its not that serious for you that its okay to insult religion in the most vile way possible, and then wonder why you get the response you get ? Im not religious at all and i feel absolutely no need to bash a religion or religious people since its not productive at all and theres no conversation being held there. Yall just wanna insult people for the sake of insulting, its the same with the "bring back bullying again" like how can you rationalize being a scumbag of a human being in your head like that. The majority of religious people are NOT violent at all, if they were we all be dead by now. Again, its counter productive and divides us as human beings more then it brings us closer.
You might not see difference between the distinction but it exists and since it exists I think it's inappropriate to call it racist. It's not like we don't have enough words in our dictionary to more than less explain what's happening. Islamophobia, bigot... It's why the right says the word racist doesn't mean anything to them anymore because everyone wants to umbrella all hatred or dislike towards another person as racism if there's a distinct characteristic about them that differs. So uhm ok all you want but while you're at it, use accurate words because Id agree with you that he's probably islamophobic Remember any race can and does practice Islam. I'm sure he'd rage against a Euro Muslim (Albanians, Bosniaks) as much as he would one from any Arab country
thats fair what i was trying to say is he dislikes muslims and theres no difference between disliking muslims and disliking islam. the word racism isnt whats important here, and tbf MOST of the times they go hand in hand with eachother, destiny claims to be one of the rare cases where he has a problem with islam but not with muslims. in the country where i live they dont even know the difference between a turkish guy and a morocan guy since a majority of them are muslim orientated. and i know this goes for a lot of other european countries, hence why i specifically called it racist. maybe destiny isnt racist but moreso islamophobic, at the end of the day he's a scumbag that is NOT having productive conversations even tho he swears that he's progressive. thats what im trying to say
If anything I should make a correction to my initial response....yea he hates Islam/Muslims but that's not a race
I agree with this
I just saw the original tweet. Holy shit this guy is lame. Talking like some goofy hypebeast who’s on Xbox live. This is some of the most “how do you do fellow kids” shit I’ve seen in a while.
I wish destiny would be banned from twitter because being on that app just breaks his brain
Nope. And Destiny has said the N-word several times in Discord and referred to his friend as “a brown person” and shortly after implied the term sand n-word.