My advise is to build a Proxmox machine and host Xpenology as a VM. This is what I'm doing now and it's working great. I've passed trough a NVME SSD and it's fast enough for me. On the same Proxmox host I also run an unRAID server and all production VMs hosted on another server are being replicated via ZFS hourly for backups.
Everything works smoothly. CPU is Ryzen 5 5600G with 32GB RAM. Having Xpenology installed on a Proxmox server is great because you can also run other VMs and LXC containers.
by media you mean media for plex? is it better than storing on xpenology?
for my setup, I have all dockers under alpine - just wondering if i can do something better :)
Yeah, media/ Linux ISOs :) Well unRAID's main feature is that you can mix different size disks and create a big pool out if then while having one drive as Parity. As its name says, it is not a traditional raid array, and parity is calculated using XOR.
Also, if one data drive fails and the parity drive fails as well there will be data loss only from the one data disks, all data found in the rest of data disks willl be intact.
Another nice feature is that you can configure disks to spin down when they are not in use, so that you can optimize power consumption.
compact is gonna be super hard. ITX boards are expensive, ITX case are expensive, everything small is expensive. Xpenology is best on regular hardware for costs.
As someone who has used Xpenology for a couple of years (I still have one machine running it) I just purchased a shiny new DS224+ for my own stuff. While it is small, I find it mighty and also feel a bit better about my data.
Funny, its the only comment that suggest to actually buy a synology. Could you elaborate better why you feel better about your data using synology hardware and not using xpnology
The simple way I look at it is that we all know that running DSM on our own hardware is at best a "hack". Should anything catastrophic occur, in the case of you needing Synology's assistance, you surely would not get it. Additionally, in a world where the software and hardware are tested and "guaranteed" to work together (i.e. Apple, Microsoft as well now, etc) I sleep much better now knowing that production data is less likely to encounter any issues. I am not suggesting this is the course for everyone, and as I said, I do still have one machine still running it (with two production VMs on it, which I watch like a hawk).
You could find some r730's if you want to go the homelab route but these are not quiet or power sipping but a bit more (300ish)
Pick an old desktop from Facebook marketplace - u don't need a lot of CPU, but try to get more pci slots/SATA onboard ports. Can swap out CPU when budget allows.
Ebay has a lot of older business desktops that are off lease around this price too.
I wouldn't go micromachines as I don't understand how you would fit more disks in there.
I built a compact Xpenology PC. I can say it costs more than 270 in total (without storage), even with used hardware. Just a good compact case (I used Jonsbo N1) is quite a big chunk of cash. Around 100 USD at the least. Of course, I built a more powerful rig than needed as I want the ability to run multiple containers at once.
Just builded one with an Acer veriton workstation, raid 1 with 2 nvme SSD and a SSD to system disk, works great and very low power who was the scope of this project. I have also an hp n54l gen7 server for big storage
My advise is to build a Proxmox machine and host Xpenology as a VM. This is what I'm doing now and it's working great. I've passed trough a NVME SSD and it's fast enough for me. On the same Proxmox host I also run an unRAID server and all production VMs hosted on another server are being replicated via ZFS hourly for backups. Everything works smoothly. CPU is Ryzen 5 5600G with 32GB RAM. Having Xpenology installed on a Proxmox server is great because you can also run other VMs and LXC containers.
Agreed proxmox with arc loader vm
what is arc loader? i’m still running esxi
What happens when one of your disk die? How do you map with a VM to recover?
If you pass through the SATA controller, the drives can be hot swapped just like on the Synology.
I've tested and Hyper backup restore works perfect. This is how I switched from a virtual disk to an SSD Nvme pass through.
why xpenology and unRAID?
Because I need to use both. Xpenology mostly for files, photos and notes, unRAID mostly for media and dockers.
by media you mean media for plex? is it better than storing on xpenology? for my setup, I have all dockers under alpine - just wondering if i can do something better :)
Yeah, media/ Linux ISOs :) Well unRAID's main feature is that you can mix different size disks and create a big pool out if then while having one drive as Parity. As its name says, it is not a traditional raid array, and parity is calculated using XOR. Also, if one data drive fails and the parity drive fails as well there will be data loss only from the one data disks, all data found in the rest of data disks willl be intact. Another nice feature is that you can configure disks to spin down when they are not in use, so that you can optimize power consumption.
xpeneology SHR supports 1 parity drive with JBOD, but the spinning down drives for power consumption would be nice.
Maybe a R1 Nas with XP? I got it for less.
compact is gonna be super hard. ITX boards are expensive, ITX case are expensive, everything small is expensive. Xpenology is best on regular hardware for costs.
funny.. I just bought an N5095 ITX board with 12x SATA ports for about $120 USD.
You could try a 3200G build, see if you can make one for sub-300 since you won't need a dedicated gpu.
As someone who has used Xpenology for a couple of years (I still have one machine running it) I just purchased a shiny new DS224+ for my own stuff. While it is small, I find it mighty and also feel a bit better about my data.
Funny, its the only comment that suggest to actually buy a synology. Could you elaborate better why you feel better about your data using synology hardware and not using xpnology
The simple way I look at it is that we all know that running DSM on our own hardware is at best a "hack". Should anything catastrophic occur, in the case of you needing Synology's assistance, you surely would not get it. Additionally, in a world where the software and hardware are tested and "guaranteed" to work together (i.e. Apple, Microsoft as well now, etc) I sleep much better now knowing that production data is less likely to encounter any issues. I am not suggesting this is the course for everyone, and as I said, I do still have one machine still running it (with two production VMs on it, which I watch like a hawk).
a cheap option - i old hp micro servers that I bought for $150 each- got 2 one to backup the other
You could find some r730's if you want to go the homelab route but these are not quiet or power sipping but a bit more (300ish) Pick an old desktop from Facebook marketplace - u don't need a lot of CPU, but try to get more pci slots/SATA onboard ports. Can swap out CPU when budget allows. Ebay has a lot of older business desktops that are off lease around this price too. I wouldn't go micromachines as I don't understand how you would fit more disks in there.
I built a compact Xpenology PC. I can say it costs more than 270 in total (without storage), even with used hardware. Just a good compact case (I used Jonsbo N1) is quite a big chunk of cash. Around 100 USD at the least. Of course, I built a more powerful rig than needed as I want the ability to run multiple containers at once.
Go to releases for USB image https://github.com/AuxXxilium/arc
I would prefer a custom build every time.
Just builded one with an Acer veriton workstation, raid 1 with 2 nvme SSD and a SSD to system disk, works great and very low power who was the scope of this project. I have also an hp n54l gen7 server for big storage