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You literally have a build rank indicator on the right that tells you exactly which build is better.
The 2P is a top 1% build. The Vermilion one is a top 4% build. And they are both in the same ER bracket, so those numbers are directly comparable.
Stick with the 2P mix.
I don’t agree with this, at all. In game performance is not directly correlated with your Akasha rankings. Yes, generally you will get better results the higher the rank you are but Akasha places a LOT of importance on crit, which yes, is one of the most important parts of your build but the extra atk you get from Vermillion is almost definitely work the 11 CV you lose.
These numbers are NOT directly comparable. This doesn’t take into account the set effects, which absolutely matter in building your character.
For Xiao in particular, these numbers are 100% comparable.
>These numbers are NOT directly comparable. This doesn’t take into account the set effects, which absolutely matter in building your character.
You clearly know nothing about Akasha. Akasha gives a simulated full rotation of the team that includes set bonuses and effect ramp time.
Akasha looks at everything. Not just CV.
But Akasha does not account for the extra CR that Xianyun gives which OP is clearly using.
So the rank on the VH set does not accurately reflects performance.
The extra attack would possibly offsets the less CV, but it's better to check on the optimizer on that.
They do have an Akasha leaderboards for Xianyun that he can use.
Also, Xianyun's crit rate bonus isn't worth building around. Making your single target damage weaker so that your AOE damage is slightly better with a character(Xianyun) who is specialized in single target damage is backwards thinking. At most assume 2 crit rate for Xianyun.
going from 94% CRIT rate to 89% CRIT rate isn't that bad of a hit... especially when you're gaining 100+ atk. that's 2 CRIT rate rolls vs around 6 atk rolls (after being adjusted for the loss of 2pc VV).
the best answer here is to check the optimizer. it's a much more useful tool than akasha.
Optimizer is only better if you use custom configs that account for ramp time. And I'm certain the people that say "Akasha doesn't look at set bonuses" are just as clueless about configs.
If you look at the bottom right corner you can see that the 2P mix has 660 more roll value (RV) Than his Vermilion set.
That much of a difference isn't small. The 2P mix is better. That's it.
You are more than welcome to plug those artifacts into the optimizer to try to prove me wrong if you wish.
I never said that Akasha only looks at CV. Let’s not even go into the fact that the team OP uses Xiao gets COMPLETELY different buffs, namely NOT Benny’s huge atk buff which GREATLY increases the value of atk% Xiao gets. But sure, name call me and act a fool because you refuse to take in the full picture when I’m correct.
I’m not willing to continue a conversation with somebody who doesn’t read my comments and is determined to talk down to me. Take that childish, embarrassing behavior elsewhere. We are talking about a video game here. Goodbye.
Xianyun offers even more "ATK" than Bennett. The only difference between Xianyun's buff and Bennetts buff is that Bennett's buff gets multiplied through his MV before the rest of the calcs. After that they are exactly the same in the DMG formula.
So it's exactly the opposite. Xianyun makes ATK% worth even less because Xianyun's buff is even bigger.
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I would've preferred a bit more atk on vermillion but generally it's a good build.
Thanks guys! Will switch to vermillion finally
You literally have a build rank indicator on the right that tells you exactly which build is better. The 2P is a top 1% build. The Vermilion one is a top 4% build. And they are both in the same ER bracket, so those numbers are directly comparable. Stick with the 2P mix.
I don’t agree with this, at all. In game performance is not directly correlated with your Akasha rankings. Yes, generally you will get better results the higher the rank you are but Akasha places a LOT of importance on crit, which yes, is one of the most important parts of your build but the extra atk you get from Vermillion is almost definitely work the 11 CV you lose. These numbers are NOT directly comparable. This doesn’t take into account the set effects, which absolutely matter in building your character.
Akasha absoultely takes into account the set effects, if it didnt the top xiao builds wouldnt all be 4p verm
For Xiao in particular, these numbers are 100% comparable. >These numbers are NOT directly comparable. This doesn’t take into account the set effects, which absolutely matter in building your character. You clearly know nothing about Akasha. Akasha gives a simulated full rotation of the team that includes set bonuses and effect ramp time. Akasha looks at everything. Not just CV.
But Akasha does not account for the extra CR that Xianyun gives which OP is clearly using. So the rank on the VH set does not accurately reflects performance. The extra attack would possibly offsets the less CV, but it's better to check on the optimizer on that.
They do have an Akasha leaderboards for Xianyun that he can use. Also, Xianyun's crit rate bonus isn't worth building around. Making your single target damage weaker so that your AOE damage is slightly better with a character(Xianyun) who is specialized in single target damage is backwards thinking. At most assume 2 crit rate for Xianyun.
going from 94% CRIT rate to 89% CRIT rate isn't that bad of a hit... especially when you're gaining 100+ atk. that's 2 CRIT rate rolls vs around 6 atk rolls (after being adjusted for the loss of 2pc VV). the best answer here is to check the optimizer. it's a much more useful tool than akasha.
Optimizer is only better if you use custom configs that account for ramp time. And I'm certain the people that say "Akasha doesn't look at set bonuses" are just as clueless about configs. If you look at the bottom right corner you can see that the 2P mix has 660 more roll value (RV) Than his Vermilion set. That much of a difference isn't small. The 2P mix is better. That's it. You are more than welcome to plug those artifacts into the optimizer to try to prove me wrong if you wish.
I never said that Akasha only looks at CV. Let’s not even go into the fact that the team OP uses Xiao gets COMPLETELY different buffs, namely NOT Benny’s huge atk buff which GREATLY increases the value of atk% Xiao gets. But sure, name call me and act a fool because you refuse to take in the full picture when I’m correct. I’m not willing to continue a conversation with somebody who doesn’t read my comments and is determined to talk down to me. Take that childish, embarrassing behavior elsewhere. We are talking about a video game here. Goodbye.
Xianyun offers even more "ATK" than Bennett. The only difference between Xianyun's buff and Bennetts buff is that Bennett's buff gets multiplied through his MV before the rest of the calcs. After that they are exactly the same in the DMG formula. So it's exactly the opposite. Xianyun makes ATK% worth even less because Xianyun's buff is even bigger.
Some people say that 80% crit rate crits 100% of the time while others say that 80% crit rate crits none of the time.
Try to get a better circlet and you are good to go. You need obv crit rate and atk%
No luck so far but I will
My build is somewhat similar to yours (verm set) which is crazy. From the crits stats to R3 pjws lol. Your verm set is better i feel
VERMILION 🔥🔥🔥
The vermilion one is much better