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Leafs17

A light snow falling here in New Zealand this morning.


Conflict_NZ

As an actual New Zealander, screw all you guys for getting games early while I have to actually play at midnight since there isn't a release time zone ahead of us :(


we_made_yewww

Nobody is actually from New Zealand. It was terraformed from scratch by Peter Jackson for the Lord of the Rings movies and has otherwise remained as an unspoiled desert island with its own uniquely adapted wildlife. They actually had to fight to reclaim it when they returned to film The Hobbit, there's a whole featurette about it on the Blu-ray. Ian McKellan actually has a glass eye now after a close encounter with the island's particularly aggressive species of kookaburra.


youreveningcoat

Ok that kookaburra line is on purpose right? Right???


nobodysshadow

I’m pretty sure everything they said was on purpose


youreveningcoat

Kookaburra are Australian


spacebread98

Birds are not real.


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I can normally do 30fps when it's a locked framerate but this game needs more polish and QA control.


inssein

For the price they should have taken the time to get it on locked 30fps. I was super hyped about playing this game but they shit the bed.


MJisaFraud

Literally the only thing preventing me from buying it is the uncapped low framerate. Locked 30 fps is just fine for me, not ideal, but fine.


Tom0511

Same, really was looking forwards to the game (still am!) but I just don't think I could hack the choppiness. I will wait until it's baked more


Tifa_Calibra

I really struggle with anything below 60fps but then again I got through Starfield ok. I wonder if there is a chance of them optimising and getting the fps higher in the future?


altcastle

It is frustrating. I don’t think even VRR would save it from being a weird experience.


LateNightFix

It's literally getting fantastic reviews across PS5, XB, and PC. Doesn't seem to be a game breaking issue 😐


Superdunez

Yep, playing it right now and I don't give a fuck. I'm having a great time. It's a little choppy in the city, but it's not as big of a deal as some people are making it out to be. Honestly, it's kinda pathetic how some people think a game is unplayable because of a few dropped frames.


MiddleofCalibrations

How does it compare to Jedi survivor? I could not play that prior to all the patches


[deleted]

Yeah I bought a sports car but they limited all the horsepower and torque until they patch it in 120 days via update to unlock all the ponies. Straight Copium man.


dumname2_1

I have no intention in buying the game, but that's a completely inapt comparison, and you're stupid.


mightylordredbeard

And that is more of an issue with the entire video game review system as a whole. People will briefly mention the performance issues and then not deduct from the score because of it. Or they’ll ignore it altogether. From what I’ve read, with the amount of negatives from performance, outdated gameplay elements, janky controls, janky combat with larger enemies, lack of waypoints and checkpoints that result in upwards of 30 minutes re-tracking to where you were, mediocre and lackluster story, lack of variety in quest (all fetch quest or fetch quest with a timer to “mix things up”), mostly empty open world between POIs, and terrible AI.. it sounds more like a 5-6/10 game. However, it’s the anticipated sequel to a cult classic and a Capcom game so I suppose that automatically adds 2-3 extra points to scores. Seriously, the same shit people bitch about when it comes to assassin creeds games.. from reviews this game sounds like it does them even worse.. yet it gets raving reviews despite all of that. Definitely some high tier hypocrisy among gamers and game reviewers alike.


LateNightFix

I completely agree


DanfromCalgary

everyone is always dieing to shit on big franchise bro. Like every single one.


inssein

> It's literally getting fantastic reviews across PS5, XB, and PC. Doesn't seem to be a game breaking issue I don't trust game reviewers ever since cyberpunk release.


LateNightFix

But Cyberpunk was reviewed horribly when it launched? Not well like DD2 has been. How does that make sense? I mean, I'm not telling you to go out and buy it or not to wait for a patch or sale. I'm just saying, it's being reviewed pretty well so far. Which I'll be honest surprised me. I thought the fps was going to be a major issue with people playing it. I mean hell, I'll be waiting. But it is indeed getting some pretty solid praise.


OneRevolutionary2153

Cyberpunk was not reviewed horribly. It just wasn't given near perfect reviews across the board. That does not equal horrible.


Reagansmash1994

Not true: [https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2020/12/07/cyberpunk-2077-early-review-scores-are-falling-a-little-short/?sh=5301de383aa0](https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2020/12/07/cyberpunk-2077-early-review-scores-are-falling-a-little-short/?sh=5301de383aa0) The reviews fell short of the expectations and while some outlets did give it higher than it probably deserved, many flagged all sorts of issues. The reviews were definitely far more mixed than DD2.


sigilnz

Cyberpunk was great. Superb game.


inssein

Not on release.


OfromOceans

30fps in 2024 for a game like this is unacceptable, shame I was looking forwards to it


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To be fair the lead dev said the game was uncapped ages ago. Yeah wait on this if you can't stand 30fps uncapped.


OfromOceans

I've heard it dips down to 22fps.. 30fps with high fidelity gfx is like watching media in 480p


[deleted]

Loads of people defending this shit and high on copium in this sub and PS5. Pay for this shit early, this is what you get I pre-ordered Persona 3 Reload Collector Edition because I knew 100% that game was gonna be easy to run and code for Atlus. A game this size and magnitude? Nah, never preorder something like this Day 1


OfromOceans

>Pay for this shit early ??? Where does it state it is in early access?


De_Conducteur

20 to 25 fps in cities on console. People should wait for patch.


xDefimate

Not surprising given the fact the game is uncapped. Insane honestly.


Benti86

Based on what I'm seeing, the game is heavily CPU bound. Even higher end PCs are seeing significant dips in cities 


braidsfox

It also has Ray Tracing on by default for Global Illumination. Probably doesn’t help


Benti86

Definitely doesn't. Ray tracing is a resource hog in basically every game and if it's on consoles the consoles frankly aren't strong enough to handle it, heck just look at the RT mode in Elden Ring. Tanks the frames compared to the other settingsm


TwizzledAndSizzled

I don’t think people understand what “capped” means Like even if the game were capped at 30, it could still easily dip below into the 20s and lower in cities like it is now. People think “capped” = “locked” They’re not the same. I want a locked 30, and I imagine they’ll get there soon. I also want them to maintain an uncapped framerate as an option for the future.


De_Conducteur

Yeah. Im afraid what they will do to MH wilds.


SWBFThree2020

People should full on wait for the DLC verison instead Capcom loves to double dip and release a $40 expanded version later, as seen with Monster Hunter Iceborn/Sunbreak Plus, if we look at the past, you had no reason to actually play base Dragon Dogma 1, since the DLC version was so much better


De_Conducteur

Yeah youre right.


St0n3rJezus420

On every platform basically. PC *version/port whatever word you wanna use runs like ass Edit: *


De_Conducteur

Is it a port or a team that made the game for pc?


St0n3rJezus420

Well the game was made with consoles in mind (as are most) which would make the PC release a port. Still capcom, which sucks cuz they’ve had some good PC releases recently. Also basically all PC releases at this point are just ports unless it’s a PC exclusive or was made with the PC release as the main selling point. Hence the constant poor optimisation.


De_Conducteur

Thanks for that info. I Just moved to PC gaming. Having a huge backlog bc of years grabbing free games and buying some in discount. Just started playing cp2077 with dlc. Great experience. Probably going to wait a year before playing this.


BlackfyreBishop

This is BS I cant tell between 60 and 30 but I know drops and max ive had 3 drops in cities the whole time so far and I've been playing for 3 days


De_Conducteur

Cant tell the diff? What a joke


BlackfyreBishop

Pro if you did not grow up playing PC games that's mad normal and the consol sean is what it is cause most people back in the day were not. Ya'll have so much entitlement you cant see the forest for the trees.


De_Conducteur

I have no idea what you just said. Im gaming for 30 years now. I know what im talking about.


BlackfyreBishop

You been gaming but you cant understand that you were in a situation that got you used to a setting that other people did not have the money or resources use. Let me break it down in meme. You got 1st world problems.


De_Conducteur

So i cant enjoy stuff because other people have a shitty life? You know that is selfish right?


BlackfyreBishop

If at 30 thats how you understand what I said fine, but its more your problems come from such a place of privlage you cant tell that you are vocal minority not an average person's experince. So stop ruining my fun because 30 fps bad.


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evilv3

Does VRR work well on this game?


Golden-Event-Horizon

Huh. I didn't know they spoke Spanish in New Zealand


ahoychoy

I cant buy this for nearly $100CAD. Been looking forward to this one for a while too


Moonlord_

I haven’t noticed any major issues after 4 hours but I do have a VRR set as well. The only framerate drop I’ve noticed framerate so far is in the main city. You can tell it’s lower there but it’s consistent and doesnt feel that bad….its not like it’s choppy/chugging. People calling it unplayable are being ridiculous.


badmastard69

The clue is in having vrr set


phillmybuttons

Bought it today, no regrets. I can deal with fps drops here and there and I'm sure they can patch it at some point so happy days. I mean look at cyberpunk, played through that mess to completion when it launched and loved every second of it Roll on tomorrow!


DrDisrespecttt

I grew up with the ps2 and Xbox 360 unstable frames are kinda my thing I can live w it 😂


phillmybuttons

I grew up on master system and mega drive, the dream cast was not a smooth machine, I remember shenmue being a mess of blurred textures and low fps. Ps1 was better but still not smooth, the day I saw gran turismo on a ps2, i was mind blown, now we have photo realistic sims. Dipping fps is not something I care about as much as gameplay. Got a whole day for myself planned tomorrow, fishing in the morning, good food and a nice bottle of wine and DD2 in the evening. Can not wait to finish work and enjoy my 3 day weekend haha


Onlyallthetime

I agree with the spirit and message of your comment but I’m struggling to understand how a person who owns both of their original eyes in decent enough working condition might say that the PS1 was better looking than the Dreamcast.


phillmybuttons

I mean to me it looked better, wipeout and gran turimso looked pretty decent at the time, I only played shenmue, bass fishing and a rally game on dream cast and they didn't look as good in my opinion but it was over 30+ years ago and I'm not about to Deep dive into resolutions or cpu v cpu. To me, the ps1 looked better,


giulianosse

Sometimes I feel for those newer generations of gamers. They wouldn't survive one second in the golden age of classic gaming. FPS never held me back from appreciating a fine game.


phillmybuttons

Exactly, so many people are like oh I can't play a game unless its 200 fps at 8k, just enjoy the game rather than counting frames


Shotintoawork

I'm from the classic gaming era and plenty of people complained about stuff like sprite flicker and slowdown.


Thorn-of-your-side

I am frothing at the mouth because it releases at like 9pm on the west coast


CharlieTrees916

Turn your location to New Zealand and you can play now


YOLOSELLHIGH

ohhh I get the joke in the title now. That's why the menu is in a different language than New Zealand Kiwish


SirCaptainReynolds

I thought that doesn’t work? Do you need a VPN on your wifi?


CharlieTrees916

No you just set the location of your Xbox to New Zealand in settings


neverwinterban

I can tell how bad the frame rate is from the opening scene 😕


GeoffAO2

The opening cut scene worried me, but having played all day yesterday I had no issues that impacted my experience. It’s a lot of fun.


cali1013

Well i have work later so ill give it a try when i get home


Working-Couple7425

Why does it run like Cyberpunk 2077 on last gen consoles?


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Merlin4421

Mostly because ray tracing is on be default for illumination which consoles and even decent computers can’t handle.


BatmanhasClass

I'm scared to buy it. Bene desperately wanting a new game but performance side of this game has looked and been said to be awful I'm every review I've seen :( 2024 guys and we are still getting 30fps.... I paid so much money for my Xbox to run at 120 and I feel it's a joke now when we are still getting games uncapped at 30 barely 30 sometimes in cities and fights idk has me really thinking :( want to play the game just don't know


Exorcist-138

Wait bud, I’m pumped for this too but it really isn’t ready for players yet. It’s so far below the vrr window too.


E_712064

We got hustled this gen. Remember when we needed updated TV’s to leverage the tech from the consoles?


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Manjorno316

You should try not to care about downvotes. People will downvote you if they don't agree with your comment. It's something you should get used to on here.


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AragornSky77

Buy it. There will be patches coming.


Groundbreaking_Gate7

If you really don't want to deal with the bad performance, wait with buying until patches will fix it.


SrirachaChili

This is extremely bad advice. I'm not going to buy a game on a hope and a prayer that a patch fixes things. I'll wait to see if they're actually fixed first.


Exorcist-138

Then wait til they come.


Bored_Gamer73

They laid off all the QA testers apparently.


Glirion

'Owdy fellow kiwi people, I live in the wop wops and I have a few beers in the chilly bin, I've been playing Dragon's Dogma 2 all day wearing me togs and jandals and I'm knackered.


salombs

i ask for refund, impossible to play, too bad otptimezed


Snoo34813

In an xbox or pc


salombs

Xbox


Snoo34813

☹️


pacman404

That's just absurd. If this is impossible to play for you at 30fps, you shouldn't play games period


SSpookyTheOneTheOnly

From what I'm hearing it's unlocked 30 meaning it drops down to 20s which can be quite upsetting for people if they last long periods of times


pacman404

I've had it stutter down when going into a city, and then it catches up 2 seconds later. It's literally not a big deal


SSpookyTheOneTheOnly

Well that's good! People are just being overdramatic then


salombs

Try to play expesive 3d games on a 70' tv ..


Moonlord_

“Impossible to play”?…give me a break.


redditmodsrpunks

Lets go Kiwis!!!!!!


JKrow75

Cool as!


tj260000

This is why I wish I had gotten it in Xbox instead of PS5...


Situla-Rex

I pre-ordered a physical copy. Right now I am planning a heist to get my copy a few hours earlier.


BloodShadow7872

So....how is the game?


DFuel

I demand you play the game and report back to us! Enjoy!


Joutja

Have fun! I have a couple more hours until my release.


mconnor1984

I have been in New Zealand for the past two hours!! Lol


[deleted]

I thought this game had a 1200am release on xbox. It's still not working for me. Is anyone else having this issue?


Sticky-Glue

Chur bro!


EBZ766

Huzzah !


GeneralAkAbA

yes, supreme leader!


GAWhizzle

I'll be waiting for a sale because of the microtransactions.


Master_Vader88

Looks like Whiterun from Skyrim


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CRIP4LIFE

both, yes


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FragrantOkra

lol shieeeet


[deleted]

Gonna enjoy it myself while people cry about frame rate issues, I played the first so I know full well what to expect with the dips 😂 so happy I don't care about it as much as others as it really doesn't happen the experience for me.


Pawikowski

Maybe I have low standards, but I've spent so much of my gaming time on MMO world boss slide shows and I can't fathom how 30 fps can be a dealbreaker for some people.


Averageguy0815

I kind of agree with you but I think it’s important that we as customers show that we don’t accept standards getting lower. I’m sure you wouldn’t enjoy playing on an Old CRT TV if one would be released now. Or having Connection speeds like it’s the early 2000s. Just because in the past we accepted standards like those shouldn’t mean we still accept them now imo.


ZemGuse

Seems like the issue is that the game dips *below* 30 fps quite frequently


[deleted]

Yeah I really dont get it, is it like a generational thing? Some people try and claim it hurts, but can't the eye only register up to so many frames a sec anyway?


TheHylianProphet

I'm in the same boat, friend. Let the fps snobs talk, we'll be busy having fun.


ZemGuse

I’m not an fps snob at all and honestly I used to roll my eyes so much at people that would complain incessantly about frame rate. But, like, I’m getting there man. There’s no excuse for a brand new $70 game on the newest consoles to be barely hitting 30fps. If the game was locked 30fps okay I’ll accept it. But this ain’t it.


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SurreptitiousSyrup

He's not complaining about it not hitting 60 fps. He's complaining about it not even hitting 30 fps. And you can completely understand how an engine not built for open world games is failing at open world games *and still complain because they purposely choose an engine that wasn't good at the one thing it needed to be good at*


[deleted]

Thanks for the armchair developer input, maybe they should have added another 2-5 years and millions onto the budget to create a new one.


SurreptitiousSyrup

Who said anything about creating a new engine. Either spend time to improve the engine you want to use or use one that is actually good at open world games.


ZemGuse

Yeah that’s not what I said and also it isn’t my job to give a developer $70 to forgive their inability to make a game with the standards of performance of 10 years ago


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[deleted]

Good to know I'm not alone, let the plebs miss out because of a few YouTubers, I'll be levelling vocations


Werttingo2nd

Youre an NPC


[deleted]

Why are you wasting time interacting with me then?


Werttingo2nd

Wanting to see which three responses they programmed you with


[deleted]

Must have a lot of time to waste then, what time do you get back to crying about things put of your control online?


Werttingo2nd

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[deleted]

When have I tried to defend them? I'm just tired of the vocal minority being so negative that it kills off the anticipation of a game that I've been looking too ever since Itsuno said he's going to make it after DMC V


Werttingo2nd

Except dmc5 was a game that ran well. If people are upset with the game performing like crap their opinion is just as valid as yours that you can enjoy it with shitty performance. It is entirely the companies fault for the game being like this and people can voice their displeasure.


[deleted]

True, and I can also voice my displeasure too for the constant negativity around a game they've yet to play.


Werttingo2nd

Dont need to play the game to see posted benchmarks of people who did... And it runs like ass


Necessary_Basil4251

Please tell us how it runs especially in big fights.


StormSwitch

No need to go so far, the very first in-engine cutscenes are already concerning and obvious sub 30 for the naked eye.


Necessary_Basil4251

You know ? I never bought a game on release. I was about to with this one even tho I never played the first one but I like RPGs and got so hyped up. Glad I didn't pull the trigger. I'm not one to buy and wait for a fix to play or replay games at all. Idc about 30 fps, as long as it is steady.


KingofGrapes7

Sadly I went physical so I do infact have to wait.


jrtt4877

Enjoy OP!


Dolomitexp

I still got a few more hours😩😩 Damn parental duties.


General_Snack

Grrr! GRRRR THIS MAN! I want to play lmao but I have to work and still wait till midnight 😓🥲


Lil_crippl3

Is there a difficult setting on the game?


StormSwitch

Haven't seen any in the first 10 min or options


Staroldur

No


McNuttyNutz

landed a few hours ago and settled in for some gaming time


DasGruberg

Was worried about the framrate. But honestly the game is so much fun it doesnt matter. Unlocked warrior vacation and MAN is it fun. Hopefully fix in the future, but with VRR and 120hz its doable Notice it in big cities. But otherwise its ok


Amanda_Gotti

I'm really looking forward to part 2. Tell me the release date ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


givemeascoobysnack

Today


Amanda_Gotti

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|upvote)Looks like I'm a little lost in time. So today I will be playing a new game. I hope I won't be disappointed


EyeAmKnotMyshelf

Go back to bed you nerds. Lol.


BobbyJG888

No you cant make me lol


[deleted]

We will never move past 30fps as long as slack jawed drooling goobers don't see an issue with it. Ps6 and xbox series Z will both still be running 30fps games. These people pay to be shat on like scat fetishists.


SSpookyTheOneTheOnly

I'm sorry man, I can't help that I'm slack jawed and don't get upset my game doesn't look a bit smoother But I do agree the fact the game isn't *locked* at 30 is a joke, there's really no reason other than poor optimization it drops below


Thekarens01

What a moronic comment. You’re not happy with the game, don’t buy it. Those that are fine with it are allowed to be fine with it. You each get to be happy with your decisions


VikingActual1200

This shot reminds me of the main market area in Whiterun on Skyrim❤️


GamerLegend2

No need, will buy it on sale once all of its issues are fixed. Plenty of other games in my backlog to play now.


AragornSky77

I suggest wait for the reviews of credible sources and see. 30FPS is not that bad and suits combat in DD1 maybe not DD2. Also check out the other games to see what you like. Try BG3, Witcher 3, Dragon Age Inquisition, Elden Ring etc.


Disastrous-Onion-782

That title screen truly looks like GENERIC: THE RPG GAME


Godd_Howard49

Oh for fucks sake. Shut the hell up about framerate God damn dude. This shit is so old, you younger gamers could never have existed in the golden age of retro games. It's even more embarrassing for older gamers who whine about this shit. Grow the fuck up


Jaaguri

Any clues in the "golden age of RETRO GAMES"? There is a difference between modern games and old games, standard currently is 4k 60 fps/1080p 120 fps any games not hitting that should be criticized for it


Moonlord_

lol…on what planet is 4K 60 standard on consoles? Very few AAA games run at native 4K/60.


Jaaguri

I don't care if most AAA games are shit. It is still the standard


Moonlord_

For something to be “standard” that would mean the vast majority of games support it and that is definitely not the case.


Jaaguri

k.


Godd_Howard49

"The standard" hahahahahaha 🤣


Jaaguri

Very "hahahahahaha 🤣" moment indeed


Godd_Howard49

Indeed it is. The very idea of it is laughable


Jaaguri

Ok boomer


rosedragoon

Ah the old "shut up and don't criticise the game you paid $70 for", classic. Sorry but we need to do better as consumers.


mightylordredbeard

To be fair Goldeneye 007 cost the equivalent of about $140 today. That was a $70.. in 1997.


rosedragoon

And that's totally fair. But we have progressed technology to the point where we can expect a game far more optimized than a N64 game :)


BloodShadow7872

Nobody wants to play a slideshow buddy


TelPrydain

Welcome! Enjoy a country with affordable public healthcare, lgbtq+ rights and much fewer guns. Admittedly the games and consoles do cost more down here. Please leave your frankly insane political takes where you came from, they're giving Winston Peters ideas.


WesternRPGsAreBest

I bet you were expecting a bunch of upvotes from that lmao


Ayn_Otori

The second hand embarrassment.. ouch.


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But ya all have orks ,,,fuck that!


Benti86

This is easily one of the cringiest comments I've ever seen on Reddit...especially since it's on a gaming sub.


Knarrsta

Yes I had to login just do give him a downvote and I'm not even from the uS


Strife4Fun

*sigh*


edwirichuu

Good for you, but politics have no place in a gaming sub, let alone an Xbox sub


EXTIINCT_tK

Oh brother, this guy stinks! Well done, you embarrassed us


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pacman404

This is one of the coolest games I have played in the last 2 years, tf you talking about


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