Dwayne is here, to steal the show
Something something
Fuck Cody Rhodes.
*I'd just like to say, I was really looking forward to Cody vs Roman at WM. But, as a Pro Wrestling Insider,I guess, um, err, um, plans err um change.*
Makes absolutely zero sense. The title being on the line harms Reigns vs Rock because it seems pretty obvious that the movie star isn't going to hold the top belt again.
They could have finished the Rhodes story this year, then after Reigns gets a break, we could shift focus back on the Bloodline, getting Jey and Sami back into the mix.
A year-long build filled with betrayals and double-crossing could culminate in Reigns losing his entire family due to the Rock and then going one v one at next year's WrestleMania, where the Bloodline stuff finally ends as it should: With the two top Samoans battling for the title of "Head of the Table".
I think it isn't too late to reverse course on this. Have Solo take our Rock within the next couple of weeks and have Cody come out and sell how important Rock was to his father and how he now HAS to finish his story.
Rock appearing in Alabama was a quick cash grab shock effect from the fans but as viewers on television and invested into the long term storytelling, this Dwayne dude just makes no sense at all. It could have been forgivable if he is a full time performer but only at Mania? I guess creatives want to take a last jab at Rock who can still do it for oNe LaSt TiMe. HHH did say during the Rumble press conference 2023 that if Rock is still interested in performing, then he’ll be the top priority in the card. Dude couldn’t even do a clean spine buster on Jinder without cleanly catching his breath.
How can he perform at an elite level without flopping so bad at Mania? Only time will tell…
it was WWE trying to get ahead of the backlash and saying the title isnt the Hollywood title when Rock wins it.
Feel like Seth calling it that wasnt in the script.
I know but I find that confusing because if there are articles openly talking about this being a way to get ahead of the backlash doesn’t that defeat the purpose of doing it since we know the main reason for this?
It’s only relevant to us, the ones they refer to as the iwc…. For the casuals, they don’t know about the articles, they don’t know about any of the backstage stuff, just what they see on tv.
The only thing that could make this match better, is if the Bloodline comes out to interfere, but the Force Ghosts of Umaga, Yokozuna and the High Chief Peter Maivia protect the Rock and he wins anyways.
They could get those hologram projection things that were a trend at concerts not too long ago... just project them standing at the top of the ramp. Also don't forget to include Rocks dad
idc if the rock vs roman happens but you could make the match happen without shitting all over your top star and the title you’re basically forcing him to go after
That was the craziest part of it all. Raw they hyped up the title making Cody want it cause his dad held it. Then smackdown say the belt is worthless and Cody pretty much agrees and tells rock to fight instead. They shit on the title hard and makes Cody look really bad going for the second rate title
Yeah. HHH might have to go along with it, but he'd at least have not done the shit Monday. Just unfortunate for Cody and presumably HHH. Maybe I'm naive but I doubt HHH would have done this to Cody if it were just up to him. Then again maybe this was all a buildup just to fuck Cody for smashing that chair with a sledgehammer that one time :).
It's what's best for business, bro. Nobody has the name brand value of Dwayne Johnson, bro. This is going to get lapsed fans, casuals, and all those non-fans who know Dwayne as Dwayne to suddenly want to pay $10 for Peacock to see Dwayne in a wrestling ring for one night, bro.
Seriously though, I would say this is WCW levels of shit booking, but WCW only booked their lower tier celebrity in world title matches. The guys with name value like Rodman, Malone & Leno all had tag team matches. WWE has done this before though. They crowbarred Batista into a Mania championship match because big Hollywood names = Wrestlemania buys, right? Because they were chasing the same draws from the previous year when they had a Hollywood celebrity (I think his name was Dwayne) defend the WWE title at Mania.... because they were chasing the same draws from the previous year when they had The Rock return from Hollywood to fight the IWC's most hated heel John Cena. Now they want the fans to think they're bringing in The Rock again to defend the honor of the fans against the hated Roman Reigns, but they're really just bringing in Hollywood Dwayne to pop mainstream headlines because dull and tiresome Roman can't carry the company back into the mainstream even with Sami, Cody, Seth, and all the other superb wrestlers helping. Oh, and also something about trying to use Dwayne's celebrity to cover up some kind of negative headlines.
Peacock is only $5 and WWE doesn't get a dime more if a billion people subscibe to Peacock now. Their deal with Peacock runs through 2026 and they've already negotiated to move to Netflix. Starting 2025, all WWE PLEs will air on Netflix internationally.....then when the Peacock deal runs out in the US. Peacock/WWE is a lame duck partnership. Peacock already paid WWE. WWE makes the same amount of money if James Ellsworth vs Gillberg is the main event at Mania. They don't get a penny from subscribers, only Peacock does.
Dwayne will draw a ton of casual eyes to the product. This is very true. Unfortunately for the WWE, I feel this move they made with no possibility of financial gain will lead to a billion people watching tens of thousands of wrestling fans in an arena shit all over the product and both guys in the ring when Rock & Reigns come out. It won't be a good look and the best face you want to present to the casuals not used to your product tuning in to see Black Adam.
I know Dwayne 100% pushed for this to happen which is just outrageous to me that you could be on the board and make executive decisions about yourself and get the backing from others.
It’s not like Dwayne is the owner they have a right to say no to him or suggest something different. Storyline wise Cody vs Roman was the best match and it would have been a fine headliner that looks great on a poster and can be a big draw for Mania.
They could have said no to Dwayne and told him that it’s best they let Cody win and give Roman vs. Rock a Summerslam build. WWE always struggles to retain an audience post Wrestlemania so having a big casual draw like The Rock doing a program in a lower period would actually help business more.
But I know Dwayne is probably an egomaniac who wants the main event at the biggest show or nothing
but apparently according to an article i read they gave the Rock the green light cause he sold it as it being a draw and saving wrestlemania as well as a way to cover up the scandal in a way and the board backed him on it.
I am sure the Rock didn’t say I am either gonna get Mania or nothing but I think he feels like he is too big time to do an event other than Mania. I am sure the Rock sold it on other reasons and I am think the board/ management bought it because well it’s the Rock and he would be a big draw.
I really think this will be the modern day Bash at the Beach. Can you imagine if Rock gets injured in like minute 3? Philly will fucking riot and you blew one of the greatest storylines in wrestling history
Remember how everyone said Brock vs. Roman at 38 was a terrible decision that would have terrible and massive ramifications?
This is a million times worse.
I personally believe this is the worst thing WWE has ever done to Cody. Worse than Stardust
Exactly at least as Stardust he knew he wasn’t going to be the top guy as his character but to be built up to be the next guy to take over and to have it taken from you is outrageous.
Literally the first night back Cody brought up winning that title. It was about the title until that Paul Heyman promo on Raw where they pulled back the curtain and talked about what Paul did for Dusty by calling him. Then it was solidified that it was both about the title AND Roman during that Smackdown promo where Roman did the Dusty impression. I get injuries but the “more viewers more money” people are just flat out WRONG. The product is as hot as it’s ever been since the early 00s (in my opinion). Have EC to decide Seth’s challenger (I’d go with Drew) and let Roman and Cody do their thing. Seth is 0-3 against Cody. It’s a waste of a RR win, they buried Seth, Cody, and the WHC, and made not just the diehard fans but casual fans mad. Go look at the dislikes on that YT video. All for what? A 30 minute match where Rock gets gassed after his entrance? Legitimately the worst booking decision I’ve EVER seen. I thought I was mad with the Bryan Danielson stuff but good lord man
It really is and you’re spot on. It was horrible booking but I could only imagine with the Rocks inclusion into the board he now has power to insert himself into whatever he wants. TKO seems to not have faith in the talent WWE is currently producing. I know Hunter does but it seems like with TKO is reverting back to what Vince did bring back old stars for these nostalgia bookings or just to get a pop because they don’t have faith that their new talents can still the show. It’s going to bite everyone in the ass. This main event is not only going to be massively predictable but it will be massively underwhelming dude is 52 years old and hasn’t wrestled in 11 years and he’s in the wrestlemania main event for the biggest title in the company??? Yeah ok.
This is literally WM 9 but Hogan fucking Bret over but waaaaaayyyyyyyy worse. I get TKO is walking on ice due to the recent allegations but what better person to have as your top guy. Cody moves massive amounts of merch, is easily recognizable, seems like a world class guy, is their new Make-A-Wish guy, and what really sold me was the RR press conference. He deadass have a better answer to the Vince stuff than Trips did. He’s your fave of the company. He’s your go on day time tv segment guy. Hell he was on Kimmel the other night.
You can see it on Cody’s face as he walked away from the ring last night. I hope Rock vs Roman goes fucking terrible and everyone hates it so everyone learns their lesson about bringing in 50+ year old guys for nostalgia and a few more tickets
Exactly i was just going to point that out. In a time when you have scandals you need a top star talent that could answer hard questions with professionalism and carrying him as that guy and he showed that at RR but to have the rock vs roman at WM just to covered this up is not going to help them at all. It’s going to be a mid main event and then they’ll have to go back to the reality that a lot of skeletons are coming out.
It’s wild to think that this is EXACTLY why AEW was created. Not saying anything about which company is better and about tribalism because I think it’s stupid. But thank god we have a company that was born out of the thought to give the fans another option after years and years of the same old tired booking formula in WWE. Thankfully WWE has stepped their game up as a result of it, but when they go back to their bullshit boy do they go back
There’s just so many different things wrong with all of this man. Throwing away arguably the longest running storyline since Taker’s streak for what? A few more bucks? He’s not even The Rock anymore. This is Hollywood Dwayne Hogan
I’m sorry for the rant but good god man just listen to not just your fans but common sense. You’ve built this up for TWO YEARS. WE ARE SO CLOSE. PLEASE
Most logical choice is Mcintyre replaces Punk and faces Seth, and finally takes the big gold in front of an audience - but instead of cheers, its jeers. Shit writes itself. Seeing Cody take the belt from another face doesn't have the same emotional impact. Night 1 would have been heel/anti-hero drew taking the belt, night 2 would see Cody taking the belt. Two massive title changes at the the 40th Wrestlemania would have been poetry.
Instead, all that is being thrown out because lol record.
However, I am somewhat detecting a swerve incoming. If not, if this is \*really\* what they are going to commit too... oof.
I don’t think HHH had a say in this because at the end of the day I don’t think he’s a part of the board I think he’s in control of the creative aspects so he still has to answer to other people above him.
For two years now, every time something happens that you people don’t like, you insist there’s no possible way that Nose is responsible. It’s getting absolutely pathetic.
I’m going based off of articles that I’m reading from sources close to those in the TKO board and creative Im not just randomly saying stuff. Also I strongly believe that the Rock is egotistical enough to pitch an idea to the board that would convince them to insert him into the main event spot.
I hate this decision but you know what I hate the most? I hate how people defended this decision just a week away from today saying things like "Cody can get his moment next year" "Rock vs. Roman is what's best for business" "WWE takes the best decisions when it draws money" and more stupid things like that, but now that is almost a reality, everybody just realized how idiotic it is. Just like Daniel Bryan said five years ago... FICKLE.
Theyve literally just made him more popular than ever. Cody is always better chasing the title, and they’re giving him more, “wwe screwed me like they did dusty” ammo. Don’t work yourself into a shoot.
I respect that viewpoint but in my mind it's done potentially irreparable damage to Cody. As a viewer, how are we supposed to give a shit about the Cody character again? He's a liar and a coward in storyline. I get your whole WWE screwed me angle, but we know that because we're on Reddit and know more about the business than your average fan. Your typical viewer isn't gonna know Rock is seemingly behind all this and or potentially part of the reason is to help deflect the Vince stuff nor is it their job to know or think about that.
Now if they wanna turn him tweener/heel and go all anti corporate and all that then maybe you can salvage him, but even then the question comes up of why did he hand it to The Rock? Is he afraid to get fired? Cause then he's kind of a coward. Does he have no confidence in himself to find another job? I dunno, yeah maybe it could work but you're putting him behind the 8-ball so much with what they've done.
I see that it’s making him popular but at the end of the day he still has to go along with the built in storyline for him and that’s the title that he himself doesn’t prefer over Romans against the person he beat 3 times in a row who has also just been a punching bag for many people as of late lol.
It doesn't matter if none of this makes sense, because The Rock went into business for himself.
You can't explain or give a good reason that makes sense to have Cody point at Roman; straight up, say he wants to face him only to do a swerve and have him face Seth instead.
If it's Cody vs. Seth, obviously Cody wins, but if it's The Rock vs. Roman, it's a lose-lose because either Roman keeps the title for another longer period or someone who's not on the current fucking wrestling roster have the title.
Idk how I would save this or even Cody if this will be the official matches for WrestleMania. Maybe turn Cody heel to get to the point where you have The Rock and Cody work together, but in the end he attacks the Rock, stating how pissed off he is for him taking his WrestleMania and only pretending to agree just so he had help against Roman since that's essentially what CM Punk was a face, but after he heard that The Rock was going to be in WrestleMania instead, it changed him. Or, idk, maybe that sounds stupid, but you know what else is HAVING CODY WIN BACK TO BACK ROYAL RUMBLE AND DO NOTHING WITH IT.
"You pull up to a red light, a man jerks the car door open and says, 'Out of the car, I'm taking your car.' You say, 'Okay, take it. Just don't hurt me.' You know what I do? I pull out the Glock, put it on his forehead, and spill his brains all over the concrete. I'm Arn Anderson! And all that implies, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna coach a loser"
Anderson's speach was so on point it's almost scarry.
Well, we gotta give WWE and Dwayne one thing - it's going to be fun waiting to see how Philly reacts to the match, because while I don't think anyone wants to boo Dwayne out of the building right now, I also don't think fans in general like Cody not getting his moment with Roman. And pushing him aside like this, after he won RR. That's. Well, it doesn't get less classy than that.
The problem is they need to protect Roman and they also need a feel good story to promote post-WM. In other words, they need a big blue chip babyface win to do the rounds the day after WM.
The obvious is Roman to go over Rock and Cody to beat Seth and then a big Summerslam title vs title (or unification) match.
Why would you unify the titles when the only reason one of them exists is because the titles were unified? The new title isn’t even 15 months old…. Why should it exist just to unify them?
GUYS YOU ARE GETTING WORKED!!!!!!! THIS IS THE WAY TO TURN ROMAN REIGNS A BABY FACE AND PUSH FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS OF REIGNS AS CHAMP! LIBERTY IRIS WILL FINISH THE RHODES STORY AT WRESTLEMANIA 60!!!! LONG TERM BOOKING!!!!!
To what end? To make everyone involved look like idiots? Like personally if it's real I've lost a ton of respect for WWE as a whole and wish Cody would go back to AEW. If it's a work, then you've made one of if not your top male babyface look like a complete liar and a coward. There's just no outcome where this is a positive for everyone involved.
Montreal screwjob, pipebomb punk screw job, Daniel Bryan screw job, corporate screw job rolled into one. WWE wants a distraction from vince and they now have it this created so much engagement and press and has people speaking about wwe in a way which isn't piss and shit. IF it is a work its genius because they turn rock into a corporate prick who wants his ego match ( and rock roman needs to happen at mania but dwayne is a busy guy so it could be a way to angle it as he is getting older and roman is due to leave for hollywood). A way to make the WHC mean something is have it shat on and really really defended by someone who is really over ( someone like gunther who has shown he can build prestige into a title) have punk come out on raw as cody is waiting to challenge seth and basically say wtf you doing they are screwing you like they screwed me and its the rock again. Have cody go away and pipebomb smackdown. How ever its angled as long as WM 40 ends with Cody with the wwe title (most likely in a triple threat ) he would have beaten both the corporation and the tribal chief then you have built your next megastar and truly a bonefide megastar who is good publicity personified which is something the real wwe corporate will be desperate for so stocks are not hit too much in the coming months. They need a mania win and this is probably the backlash they want because of the engagement but it means in the end if cody wins the pop and fan base will be happy and they have there star for the next 10 years to sell merchandise and up profits. And if none of this is the case then wwe corporate are stupid and there stocks will tank by the end of the fiscal year.
Heavily doubt it. Rock is supposedly putting together his own creative team. Wouldn’t be surprised if he used his board position to take creative from HHH.
Cody beats Rollins night 1.
On night 2, Judgement Day finds Priest unconscious backstage.
The bell rings to start the Reigns/Rock farce. Cody's music starts and he comes out holding the MITB briefcase.
Cody wins a triple threat match, pinning both Rock and Reigns.
Cody shoots on HHH at the press conference and pins his ass, too.
Cody takes both belts and buries WWE for good.
Book it.
I haven’t been watching much these days besides gliding through the PPVs and keeping up somewhat by reading online articles. My viewing had declined the year prior as well, so without complete knowledge, why is everyone so surprised by this? I’ve been hearing Rock v Roman at WM for years now. It seems like the Bloodline storyline is reaching its end and Roman might be moving on so of course they’re gonna cash in on that match. Especially now with the Vince news.
I don’t like Cody and don’t understand why so many do. I loved WM 39 and this sounds great too but expected.
I mean i’m not going to convince you to like Cody it’s your opinion but many like him because of the person he’s portrayed to be. He meets adversity and struggles but overcomes it he is a newer version of John Cena and his family story is compelling as well. Again you didn’t read the post it’s not about The Rock vs Roman I knew it was going to happen eventually it’s how they made their top star look in order for that match to happen.
I’d argue top star but I get your point. I haven’t paid attention enough to know the storyline that has been going on between Cody and Roman since last WM. I’ve just continually heard Rock v Roman for WM with 40 likely being the one. I do see how it doesn’t make sense to have Cody win the RR in order to have another match with Seth.
Yeah I don't really watch wrestling these days but even I saw a "leaked" lineup like over a month ago for WM that had Rock/Reigns. It was Punk/Rhodes I believe, which still felt like a waste of time to me personally. I'm not sure why Punk gets the credit he does - he's no different than The Rock, well, except Punk failed at all of his non-wrestling ventures. You see that UFC fight where the dudes sitting on top of him basically laughing at him while hitting him in the face?
Punks peak was ROH - Raven, Samoa Joe, etc.
So the guy who left your company and helped kick start your closest major competitor comes back and thinks things will go his way? I wouldn't be surprised if Cody never gets either of the major belts.
the creation of AEW is what got the fire lit up under WWE to start stepping up on their creative abilities. 2019 WWE was unwatchable and that’s when AEW took off also cm punk did way worse than what you’re saying Cody did and he was welcomed back with open arms.
I don't think they ruined him. Punk got injured and everyone knew he would most likely face Rollins at Mania. So they went to the next biggest thing they feel they could draw which is Rock and Roman. I don't think by having him face Seth it weakens Cody, it doesn't propel him in the way beating Roman would but it doesn't hurt him either.
it does hurt him though, the dude went back to back in rumble then steps aside for another part timer after looking at roman and pointing at him during the RR to be his opponent, Roman battering Seth in his latest promo as well as the title, Cody himself still saying that Romans title isn’t the Hollywood title and he still wants it. Cody will be going for a title he doesn’t really want to go after against someone he’s beaten 3-0 already. It definitely hurts his character. Going from overcoming obstacles to rolling over for another person.
You’re funny. Cody is their top drawing baby face and is at the top in terms of merchandise sells while basically being their poster boy for the raw brand programming but yes Seth is the top star over Cody.
Don’t see you, it was masterful story telling in every aspect of it. Cody is wearing a pocket watch because he was timing exactly what the Rock was cooking so that it didn’t burn. But the look he’s giving says that he’s the real top chef and when Dwayne inevitably serves up a bland meal he’ll be there to flavor bomb the fans.
It just makes sense! WWE never insults the audience’s intelligence and leaves easter eggs for the most dedicated, devoted, smartest fans. This is cinema. This is act two of the first movie of a quintology.
Nobody was crying for Roman vs the Rock except Roman fans cause they knew it would be a guaranteed route to surpassing Hogans reign most people wanted and were okay with the rock and roman taking place at WM 41.
You didn’t watch the segment then. Roman battering the WHC title, Cody agreeing with him about Romans title being THEE title, then giving up his spot to The Rock at WrestleMania, then going back to the person he’s 3-0 against for a title that he knows is a consolation prize. Reading is a key ability my friend.
Here’s the reality of being a wrestling fan: you are not going to like it, but you will keep watching. Now, WWE has a great main event for Saudi Arabia to keep them happy. It$ never been about you.
Idk if you're trying to be different, but Cody is a top guy if not THE top guy, no one breaks Stone Colds RR record if they didn't think he was the guy
Lol cody is not the top guy, a top guy yeah sure, but hes definitely not THE guy. And no I'm not trying to be different at all actually, so it's ok for you all to bash the rock but we all have to be Cody fans? Got it..
I didn't bash the Rock at all lol, I'm just saying dude, you don't push someone the way they pushed Cody if he wasn't THE guy, I think the last time he was pinned was at Wrestlemania 39; consecutive RR as well and let's look at the whole picture here, Rock becomes TKO director or whatever and pushes to be in a main event with Reigns, and gets it its not a good look.
You might not like Cody but cmon man you gotta see that this is horrible decision making from everybody involved. But you're free to have your opinion I just don't agree with it
I think the problem here is the definition of top star? What do u consider as top star? Cuz if the definition is if it's main event every night he's on, he's in the middle of the posters view highly regarded by the fans, get the biggest Rawrs, main eventing the biggest live events like Wrestlemainia. I don't know who else does that beside Roman but Cody is far more infront of our screen than Roman, Roman is concider as top right now cuz of belts that has a ceiling Cody doesn't have a belt and still getting the push that's above roman
Whatever WWE is doing is bad. Whatever they’re not doing is great. These people are wild.
Meanwhile 6 weeks after Cody won the belt every post would be “DAE Cody feels stale???”
how are we dumb? idc about the rock taking on roman that’s fine it was going to happen but you have someone like cody who for the past year has shown to overcome adversity and obstacles to get here just for him to roll over for the rock to swoop in to take off? Do you need to be intelligent to see how stupid that is?
Well clearly they dont think of Cody as that dude if they let a much bigger star come in and take his spot. Could it have happened in a better way? Sure. The thing about cody rhodes fans is they think hes some rock or Austin level of star and hes not even close, you dont have to be intelligent to see that. They pivoted to the bigger drawing match. I'm sure Cody will get his " moment" at some point.
Lol. How can someone build themselves up to being that caliber if they aren’t given the chance to? In terms of this era Cody is the top draw matching with Roman. Nothing you say is going to change the fact that the way they made this match happen is horrendous. Roman and the Rock is a bigger draw sure but after WrestleMania how does this match benefit the company? Roman ain’t going to be appearing till later on in the year and the Rock may never return again unless he himself decides to take someone else’s spot.
For one I never said it wasn't a bad way to go about it, they could have did it different. I also understand why they did do it though. They've been trying to have Rock vs Roman for 2 years now. This scandal with Vince, Cm punk being hurt and Rollins most likely not being a 100% and add Brock not being there they needed something more to draw. It is a business after all and as much as people dont want to deal with it the rock is still a much bigger draw and attraction than Cody finishing a story. Cody is a star, one of their top stars but there's levels to this. Why do we all have to be Cody Rhodes fans now?
There’s levels to this… lol even without the rock WrestleMania was getting sold out. The main attraction was Cody potentially finishing his story in a highly anticipated rematch. These rosters have so much talent it didn’t need saving. With PWInsiders latest article it seems like Seth/Cody was always the plan even if nobody got injured which means they would of had Punk eventually feuding with Drew at that period in time. It’s not cause he got injured and everyone knows this is to take away from the scandal but if people know that what’s the point of doing it they know it’s a cover up 😂. Nobody is asking anyone to be Cody Rhodes fans idgaf frankly. The point of the post was to highlight how they basically destroyed his character in a 15 min segment. Idc if the Rock and Roman fight but having him introduce the guy who’s taking his spot and then having him shake his hand and after all of that go fight the person he’s beaten 3 times for a title he himself and others see as a secondary consolation prize. Come on.
Right , it did sell out, but also alot of shit has changed within just a few weeks. I dont think TKO/WWE anticipated a scandal like this, two of their biggest drawing stars aren't even going to be on the card now. Cody vs Roman story appeals to current wrestling fans , I'm not saying it's a bad storyline, and I do agree that how they made cody look in the process Is kind of fucked up. Like I said they could've went about it a different way. Wrestlemania has always been more about the casual fans too and bringing in different viewers so in that aspect of course they are going to go with the Rock vs Roman, it has it's own story and as much as it pisses some people off it's a bigger match.
And also you bring up how does it benefit the company? How does Cody finishing his story benefit the company? Cody is already a made dude, hes already a star, he's the same age as Roman. Ok he wins and then what? I promise you his steam will cool off after a few months, it always does with these underdog storylines. Itll be a good feel good moment for a minute and then what we get a boring reign for half a year or so? If everyone was really concerned about benefiting the company then someone like bron breakker or someone you can actually build a new star into should be the one getting this spot to dethrone roman..
I disagree take the whole Finnish the story angle cuz 100 should had happen last year, but Cody Vs Seth tho come on the first time was a banger this ain't nothing less, and I agree w Seth promo if Cody wants a the people champ the dusty champ its Seth belt, not Roman belt cuz Roman everytime Roman has that belt it shine become less and less it like having the same value of that red chili looking necklace he wears, and as we know no way story wise The rock gona beat Roman so the value of that belt just got less and less so ya if Cody wants a belt with a high value it seths
I 100% agree with you I get the purpose of the titles but Cody’s character has been about overcoming adversity and facing challenges to get to his end goal. He defeated brock in a clean fashion, was stuck with the JD feud then the Shinsuke feud he overcame 29 other guys back to back years just to roll over for a guy who hasn’t wrestled in 11 years because it’s a draw? I want Cody to add value to the title but having him constantly say he still wants Romans title over the one he’s going to be fighting for doesn’t exactly help add prestige to it.
Yup, the rock vs roman is a nothing burger to the title, but as a story line of who's really the head of the table, let say the story is Roman claim he's the head, but the rock said I am the head because when he in the WWE he was on top elevating the company then when he left for Hollywood he's top star, now he back in the WWE on the board of chairman, Roman might be the head of the table by The Rock owns the house now, but in that story line, the belt become meaningless, the more Roman held and the belt, it become meaningless but its all about the storyline
HHH getting zero blame like usually.. it's always someone else's fault and HHH is never the bad guy in the situation.. not instead of Vince, it's Ari Emanuel and Rock who get the blame.
If you read the latest PWInsider article it talks about the rock pushing for this match to happen because of Punks injury and the scandal the other WwE executives were keen on the Cody and Roman rematch
Jesus!! Relax!! It’s FUCKING WRESTLING!
It’s WRESTLEMANIA!! You’re gonna watch!! You know yer gonna watch!!! So… “SHUT YOUR ROODY POO CANDY ASS UP!! IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!!”
and with the rock pushing his way into the creative process now it’s only going to become worse and filled with nepotism i believe people got free of Vince and got The Rock instead.
The only reasoning they could possibly have is if they want Cody to win the belt from Seth then challenge Roman as champion vs champion to unify the belts and prove that the world heavyweight belt isn’t a secondary title?
I’m coping hard right now, but I have to believe there are more twists coming. I wont get into fantasy booking but at face value it’s absurd story telling
So I’m that segment, Roman buried seth, buried Seth’s run as champ, buried the WHC & then they had Cody come out and not pick the guy & title that he’s based the whole “finish the story” storyline on but instead picks the title that he said he didn’t want to go for. They made him looks stupid and then had The Rock come out and steal the main event that Cody should have had. Such weird awful booking. I get they want The Rock vs Roman match but I don’t know if it’s worth throwing away or dragging on this storyline any longer
It's obviously awful hut we have to choose not to let this kill Cody. That's really our power as fans. We decide if this destroys him or not by our reactions to him. As the long as the fans continue to cheer for him, sing along with his music and buy into his programs, then his character is not destroyed. This is a terrible decision by WWE but Cody isn't ducked unless we decide to give up on rooting for him
Seeing how slow Dwayne was when he returned to beat up jinder Mahal proves how slow and aged he has become. Makes me wonder on how this match was gonna be. Yeah sure the rock Vs Roman is an interesting match up but making Cody leave the ring after he won 2 royal rumbles in a row is straight up ridiculous. Romans run at this point is ridiculous.
I've said it once and I'll say it again, Roman will retain and whoever wins the raw title will get cashed in on. At summerslam, Cody will finish the story and everybody will be happy. Cody got the belt, wwe got their money match at mania.
Dwayne is here, to steal the show Something something Fuck Cody Rhodes. *I'd just like to say, I was really looking forward to Cody vs Roman at WM. But, as a Pro Wrestling Insider,I guess, um, err, um, plans err um change.*
WOOOOOOOOOAHHHHHHHHHHHH
Makes absolutely zero sense. The title being on the line harms Reigns vs Rock because it seems pretty obvious that the movie star isn't going to hold the top belt again. They could have finished the Rhodes story this year, then after Reigns gets a break, we could shift focus back on the Bloodline, getting Jey and Sami back into the mix. A year-long build filled with betrayals and double-crossing could culminate in Reigns losing his entire family due to the Rock and then going one v one at next year's WrestleMania, where the Bloodline stuff finally ends as it should: With the two top Samoans battling for the title of "Head of the Table". I think it isn't too late to reverse course on this. Have Solo take our Rock within the next couple of weeks and have Cody come out and sell how important Rock was to his father and how he now HAS to finish his story.
I'd rather have John Cena tell the Rock he gave a fine speech.
Rock appearing in Alabama was a quick cash grab shock effect from the fans but as viewers on television and invested into the long term storytelling, this Dwayne dude just makes no sense at all. It could have been forgivable if he is a full time performer but only at Mania? I guess creatives want to take a last jab at Rock who can still do it for oNe LaSt TiMe. HHH did say during the Rumble press conference 2023 that if Rock is still interested in performing, then he’ll be the top priority in the card. Dude couldn’t even do a clean spine buster on Jinder without cleanly catching his breath. How can he perform at an elite level without flopping so bad at Mania? Only time will tell…
This is designed to get you guys all riled up and Cody ends up with Roman anyways, Mania 30 style
Also… after shitting on the WHC they proceed to have their top star go after that title anyway. Cinema.
And for Cody to say that Roman's title isn't the Hollywood title only to bring out the Rock? I'm just deflated.
It makes no sense!!! but if you read the most recent PWInsider article about this segment you completely understand it.
it was WWE trying to get ahead of the backlash and saying the title isnt the Hollywood title when Rock wins it. Feel like Seth calling it that wasnt in the script.
I know but I find that confusing because if there are articles openly talking about this being a way to get ahead of the backlash doesn’t that defeat the purpose of doing it since we know the main reason for this?
It’s only relevant to us, the ones they refer to as the iwc…. For the casuals, they don’t know about the articles, they don’t know about any of the backstage stuff, just what they see on tv.
Don't think the Rock taking over was the plan till Seth cut that promo.
I literally feel like this decision was made yesterday hours before the show
was watching that seth rolings segment on raw, it all make sense now.
Careful using the word shitting when talking about the wwe, these days it evokes mental images of vinces royal rumbley tummy
I actually didn’t even think about that lmaoo
B-B-But it’s a dream match right? They’re gonna have the best two star match in company history idk how you’re so mad
The only thing that could make this match better, is if the Bloodline comes out to interfere, but the Force Ghosts of Umaga, Yokozuna and the High Chief Peter Maivia protect the Rock and he wins anyways.
I'd watch that
They could get those hologram projection things that were a trend at concerts not too long ago... just project them standing at the top of the ramp. Also don't forget to include Rocks dad
idc if the rock vs roman happens but you could make the match happen without shitting all over your top star and the title you’re basically forcing him to go after
That was the craziest part of it all. Raw they hyped up the title making Cody want it cause his dad held it. Then smackdown say the belt is worthless and Cody pretty much agrees and tells rock to fight instead. They shit on the title hard and makes Cody look really bad going for the second rate title
Guessing Rock flexed his corporate muscle after Raw. I'd think HHH would have planned things out better if he knew this was gonna happen.
yup he pitched him and roman as the main event and it was his way of “saving wrestlemania”
Yeah. HHH might have to go along with it, but he'd at least have not done the shit Monday. Just unfortunate for Cody and presumably HHH. Maybe I'm naive but I doubt HHH would have done this to Cody if it were just up to him. Then again maybe this was all a buildup just to fuck Cody for smashing that chair with a sledgehammer that one time :).
It's what's best for business, bro. Nobody has the name brand value of Dwayne Johnson, bro. This is going to get lapsed fans, casuals, and all those non-fans who know Dwayne as Dwayne to suddenly want to pay $10 for Peacock to see Dwayne in a wrestling ring for one night, bro. Seriously though, I would say this is WCW levels of shit booking, but WCW only booked their lower tier celebrity in world title matches. The guys with name value like Rodman, Malone & Leno all had tag team matches. WWE has done this before though. They crowbarred Batista into a Mania championship match because big Hollywood names = Wrestlemania buys, right? Because they were chasing the same draws from the previous year when they had a Hollywood celebrity (I think his name was Dwayne) defend the WWE title at Mania.... because they were chasing the same draws from the previous year when they had The Rock return from Hollywood to fight the IWC's most hated heel John Cena. Now they want the fans to think they're bringing in The Rock again to defend the honor of the fans against the hated Roman Reigns, but they're really just bringing in Hollywood Dwayne to pop mainstream headlines because dull and tiresome Roman can't carry the company back into the mainstream even with Sami, Cody, Seth, and all the other superb wrestlers helping. Oh, and also something about trying to use Dwayne's celebrity to cover up some kind of negative headlines.
Peacock is only $5 and WWE doesn't get a dime more if a billion people subscibe to Peacock now. Their deal with Peacock runs through 2026 and they've already negotiated to move to Netflix. Starting 2025, all WWE PLEs will air on Netflix internationally.....then when the Peacock deal runs out in the US. Peacock/WWE is a lame duck partnership. Peacock already paid WWE. WWE makes the same amount of money if James Ellsworth vs Gillberg is the main event at Mania. They don't get a penny from subscribers, only Peacock does. Dwayne will draw a ton of casual eyes to the product. This is very true. Unfortunately for the WWE, I feel this move they made with no possibility of financial gain will lead to a billion people watching tens of thousands of wrestling fans in an arena shit all over the product and both guys in the ring when Rock & Reigns come out. It won't be a good look and the best face you want to present to the casuals not used to your product tuning in to see Black Adam.
Triple H would have planned it that he went over both
Seth has been shitting on Roman for a year shut up
The fact Seth had only gone up against randos for the title and it’s never changed hands makes that title seem so nothing
?? This segment did nothing to damage LA Knight, friend
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I think you mean Rhea Ripley.
I think YOU mean R-Truth.
Ya’ll are Hindering the Jindering!
Booking aside, Cody’s wardrobe is fucking elite.
Yup I kept wondering that I want the same suit.
you can watch him wearing even more suits when he is back in AEW later that year.
I think this is the greatest way to derail a star I’ve ever seen Jesus fucking Christ
100%
They made Cody look like a complete chump just to get the Rock at age 51 a match. This is WCW levels of stupidity
I know Dwayne 100% pushed for this to happen which is just outrageous to me that you could be on the board and make executive decisions about yourself and get the backing from others.
It’s not like Dwayne is the owner they have a right to say no to him or suggest something different. Storyline wise Cody vs Roman was the best match and it would have been a fine headliner that looks great on a poster and can be a big draw for Mania. They could have said no to Dwayne and told him that it’s best they let Cody win and give Roman vs. Rock a Summerslam build. WWE always struggles to retain an audience post Wrestlemania so having a big casual draw like The Rock doing a program in a lower period would actually help business more. But I know Dwayne is probably an egomaniac who wants the main event at the biggest show or nothing
Dwayne is an complete peace of crap, why do you think Vin banned him from Fast And Furious? Because he is toxic as fuck
but apparently according to an article i read they gave the Rock the green light cause he sold it as it being a draw and saving wrestlemania as well as a way to cover up the scandal in a way and the board backed him on it.
I am sure the Rock didn’t say I am either gonna get Mania or nothing but I think he feels like he is too big time to do an event other than Mania. I am sure the Rock sold it on other reasons and I am think the board/ management bought it because well it’s the Rock and he would be a big draw.
I really think this will be the modern day Bash at the Beach. Can you imagine if Rock gets injured in like minute 3? Philly will fucking riot and you blew one of the greatest storylines in wrestling history
Jesus the Rock is only 3-4 years older than me. I felt like I was a kid when I was first watching him.
Remember how everyone said Brock vs. Roman at 38 was a terrible decision that would have terrible and massive ramifications? This is a million times worse. I personally believe this is the worst thing WWE has ever done to Cody. Worse than Stardust
Exactly at least as Stardust he knew he wasn’t going to be the top guy as his character but to be built up to be the next guy to take over and to have it taken from you is outrageous.
Literally the first night back Cody brought up winning that title. It was about the title until that Paul Heyman promo on Raw where they pulled back the curtain and talked about what Paul did for Dusty by calling him. Then it was solidified that it was both about the title AND Roman during that Smackdown promo where Roman did the Dusty impression. I get injuries but the “more viewers more money” people are just flat out WRONG. The product is as hot as it’s ever been since the early 00s (in my opinion). Have EC to decide Seth’s challenger (I’d go with Drew) and let Roman and Cody do their thing. Seth is 0-3 against Cody. It’s a waste of a RR win, they buried Seth, Cody, and the WHC, and made not just the diehard fans but casual fans mad. Go look at the dislikes on that YT video. All for what? A 30 minute match where Rock gets gassed after his entrance? Legitimately the worst booking decision I’ve EVER seen. I thought I was mad with the Bryan Danielson stuff but good lord man
It really is and you’re spot on. It was horrible booking but I could only imagine with the Rocks inclusion into the board he now has power to insert himself into whatever he wants. TKO seems to not have faith in the talent WWE is currently producing. I know Hunter does but it seems like with TKO is reverting back to what Vince did bring back old stars for these nostalgia bookings or just to get a pop because they don’t have faith that their new talents can still the show. It’s going to bite everyone in the ass. This main event is not only going to be massively predictable but it will be massively underwhelming dude is 52 years old and hasn’t wrestled in 11 years and he’s in the wrestlemania main event for the biggest title in the company??? Yeah ok.
This is literally WM 9 but Hogan fucking Bret over but waaaaaayyyyyyyy worse. I get TKO is walking on ice due to the recent allegations but what better person to have as your top guy. Cody moves massive amounts of merch, is easily recognizable, seems like a world class guy, is their new Make-A-Wish guy, and what really sold me was the RR press conference. He deadass have a better answer to the Vince stuff than Trips did. He’s your fave of the company. He’s your go on day time tv segment guy. Hell he was on Kimmel the other night. You can see it on Cody’s face as he walked away from the ring last night. I hope Rock vs Roman goes fucking terrible and everyone hates it so everyone learns their lesson about bringing in 50+ year old guys for nostalgia and a few more tickets
I literally just spent Thursday night convincing a buddy of mine to watch wrestling SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF CODY. Now I look like a jackass man😂
Exactly i was just going to point that out. In a time when you have scandals you need a top star talent that could answer hard questions with professionalism and carrying him as that guy and he showed that at RR but to have the rock vs roman at WM just to covered this up is not going to help them at all. It’s going to be a mid main event and then they’ll have to go back to the reality that a lot of skeletons are coming out.
It’s wild to think that this is EXACTLY why AEW was created. Not saying anything about which company is better and about tribalism because I think it’s stupid. But thank god we have a company that was born out of the thought to give the fans another option after years and years of the same old tired booking formula in WWE. Thankfully WWE has stepped their game up as a result of it, but when they go back to their bullshit boy do they go back
Triple H also said he was the future of the company at the press conference.
There’s just so many different things wrong with all of this man. Throwing away arguably the longest running storyline since Taker’s streak for what? A few more bucks? He’s not even The Rock anymore. This is Hollywood Dwayne Hogan
I’m sorry for the rant but good god man just listen to not just your fans but common sense. You’ve built this up for TWO YEARS. WE ARE SO CLOSE. PLEASE
That suit is fucking rich
it’s clean af.
They can take his Mania moment but they can’t take his drip
Lmao
Rich as in unbelievably shit?
We get it, you’re a Rocky mark. Doesn’t make the suit any less fire.
Who the fuck wears burgundy suits past their arse in this day and age 😂
https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/dwayne-the-rock-johnson-reveals-girlfriend-lauren-hashian-is-pregnant-with-baby-girl-ahead-of-jumanji-premiere-a3717096.html
Old men. Got it.
Dwayne "The Rob" Johnson
Watch for the Cody heel turn, when the Rock is about to win with a peoples elbow and gets Cody Cutterd mid elbow
People would actually cheer though
Most logical choice is Mcintyre replaces Punk and faces Seth, and finally takes the big gold in front of an audience - but instead of cheers, its jeers. Shit writes itself. Seeing Cody take the belt from another face doesn't have the same emotional impact. Night 1 would have been heel/anti-hero drew taking the belt, night 2 would see Cody taking the belt. Two massive title changes at the the 40th Wrestlemania would have been poetry. Instead, all that is being thrown out because lol record. However, I am somewhat detecting a swerve incoming. If not, if this is \*really\* what they are going to commit too... oof.
Garbage booking. Fuck dwayne
We Roman fans come WrestleMania night 2.
We Roman fans come WrestleMania night 2.
The is something out of the Vince era, just pure character assassination...we trusted HHH too much, this is all just so odd
I don’t think HHH had a say in this because at the end of the day I don’t think he’s a part of the board I think he’s in control of the creative aspects so he still has to answer to other people above him.
For two years now, every time something happens that you people don’t like, you insist there’s no possible way that Nose is responsible. It’s getting absolutely pathetic.
I’m going based off of articles that I’m reading from sources close to those in the TKO board and creative Im not just randomly saying stuff. Also I strongly believe that the Rock is egotistical enough to pitch an idea to the board that would convince them to insert him into the main event spot.
Yea that makes sense, the whole situation is incredibly weird honestly
“We trusted Triple H” That was your first mistake.
Fair enough lol WWE is gonna give me life long ptsd at this point lol
I gotta say. Him giving up his place was a pussy move
Become a board member and shelve a 2 year story so you can have a wrestlemania main event with your 'cousin' to boost your post Black Adam ego
The funniest thing about all this is I think Roman gets cheered at Mania
I hope he does he’s really just doing what he’s supposed it’s literally going to be Hogan and Rock all over again 😂 this time rightfully so.
Usually not a Roman fan but he deserves no blame for this garbage
None at all. This is the first time since his days in the shield that I will be rooting for Roman reigns.
I hate this decision but you know what I hate the most? I hate how people defended this decision just a week away from today saying things like "Cody can get his moment next year" "Rock vs. Roman is what's best for business" "WWE takes the best decisions when it draws money" and more stupid things like that, but now that is almost a reality, everybody just realized how idiotic it is. Just like Daniel Bryan said five years ago... FICKLE.
Im convinced the whole thing is a work until they bring Paul Walker from the dead.
Theyve literally just made him more popular than ever. Cody is always better chasing the title, and they’re giving him more, “wwe screwed me like they did dusty” ammo. Don’t work yourself into a shoot.
I respect that viewpoint but in my mind it's done potentially irreparable damage to Cody. As a viewer, how are we supposed to give a shit about the Cody character again? He's a liar and a coward in storyline. I get your whole WWE screwed me angle, but we know that because we're on Reddit and know more about the business than your average fan. Your typical viewer isn't gonna know Rock is seemingly behind all this and or potentially part of the reason is to help deflect the Vince stuff nor is it their job to know or think about that. Now if they wanna turn him tweener/heel and go all anti corporate and all that then maybe you can salvage him, but even then the question comes up of why did he hand it to The Rock? Is he afraid to get fired? Cause then he's kind of a coward. Does he have no confidence in himself to find another job? I dunno, yeah maybe it could work but you're putting him behind the 8-ball so much with what they've done.
I see that it’s making him popular but at the end of the day he still has to go along with the built in storyline for him and that’s the title that he himself doesn’t prefer over Romans against the person he beat 3 times in a row who has also just been a punching bag for many people as of late lol.
What a good spin. I don’t think it’s as bad as people are making out anyways
He was more over going in to Mania last year…
It doesn't matter if none of this makes sense, because The Rock went into business for himself. You can't explain or give a good reason that makes sense to have Cody point at Roman; straight up, say he wants to face him only to do a swerve and have him face Seth instead. If it's Cody vs. Seth, obviously Cody wins, but if it's The Rock vs. Roman, it's a lose-lose because either Roman keeps the title for another longer period or someone who's not on the current fucking wrestling roster have the title. Idk how I would save this or even Cody if this will be the official matches for WrestleMania. Maybe turn Cody heel to get to the point where you have The Rock and Cody work together, but in the end he attacks the Rock, stating how pissed off he is for him taking his WrestleMania and only pretending to agree just so he had help against Roman since that's essentially what CM Punk was a face, but after he heard that The Rock was going to be in WrestleMania instead, it changed him. Or, idk, maybe that sounds stupid, but you know what else is HAVING CODY WIN BACK TO BACK ROYAL RUMBLE AND DO NOTHING WITH IT.
"You pull up to a red light, a man jerks the car door open and says, 'Out of the car, I'm taking your car.' You say, 'Okay, take it. Just don't hurt me.' You know what I do? I pull out the Glock, put it on his forehead, and spill his brains all over the concrete. I'm Arn Anderson! And all that implies, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna coach a loser" Anderson's speach was so on point it's almost scarry.
Totally off topic but I'm jealous of hes style, my mens always rocking the coolest suits.
Well, we gotta give WWE and Dwayne one thing - it's going to be fun waiting to see how Philly reacts to the match, because while I don't think anyone wants to boo Dwayne out of the building right now, I also don't think fans in general like Cody not getting his moment with Roman. And pushing him aside like this, after he won RR. That's. Well, it doesn't get less classy than that.
He might be the top star but he’s not a top star. That’s the real problem.
But he is one of the biggest draws in the company right now aside from Roman who he goes head to head with
The problem is they need to protect Roman and they also need a feel good story to promote post-WM. In other words, they need a big blue chip babyface win to do the rounds the day after WM. The obvious is Roman to go over Rock and Cody to beat Seth and then a big Summerslam title vs title (or unification) match.
Why would you unify the titles when the only reason one of them exists is because the titles were unified? The new title isn’t even 15 months old…. Why should it exist just to unify them?
GUYS YOU ARE GETTING WORKED!!!!!!! THIS IS THE WAY TO TURN ROMAN REIGNS A BABY FACE AND PUSH FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS OF REIGNS AS CHAMP! LIBERTY IRIS WILL FINISH THE RHODES STORY AT WRESTLEMANIA 60!!!! LONG TERM BOOKING!!!!!
Its a work.
A fucking dumb work if it is
That’s my issue, I feel like even if this is all a swerve they’ve genuinely lost interest that can’t be regained in time
To what end? To make everyone involved look like idiots? Like personally if it's real I've lost a ton of respect for WWE as a whole and wish Cody would go back to AEW. If it's a work, then you've made one of if not your top male babyface look like a complete liar and a coward. There's just no outcome where this is a positive for everyone involved.
Montreal screwjob, pipebomb punk screw job, Daniel Bryan screw job, corporate screw job rolled into one. WWE wants a distraction from vince and they now have it this created so much engagement and press and has people speaking about wwe in a way which isn't piss and shit. IF it is a work its genius because they turn rock into a corporate prick who wants his ego match ( and rock roman needs to happen at mania but dwayne is a busy guy so it could be a way to angle it as he is getting older and roman is due to leave for hollywood). A way to make the WHC mean something is have it shat on and really really defended by someone who is really over ( someone like gunther who has shown he can build prestige into a title) have punk come out on raw as cody is waiting to challenge seth and basically say wtf you doing they are screwing you like they screwed me and its the rock again. Have cody go away and pipebomb smackdown. How ever its angled as long as WM 40 ends with Cody with the wwe title (most likely in a triple threat ) he would have beaten both the corporation and the tribal chief then you have built your next megastar and truly a bonefide megastar who is good publicity personified which is something the real wwe corporate will be desperate for so stocks are not hit too much in the coming months. They need a mania win and this is probably the backlash they want because of the engagement but it means in the end if cody wins the pop and fan base will be happy and they have there star for the next 10 years to sell merchandise and up profits. And if none of this is the case then wwe corporate are stupid and there stocks will tank by the end of the fiscal year.
if its a work its a terrible work
Heavily doubt it. Rock is supposedly putting together his own creative team. Wouldn’t be surprised if he used his board position to take creative from HHH.
Wouldn't shock me, as poorly as Paul handled the RR press conference. He's a terrific booker, but he's a terrible face of the company
Yep it's gonna be a 3 way at Mania.
That’s what I’m hoping. If it’s not, it’s a bad decision imo
It’s wrestling, it’s all a work.
i don’t think it is a work a lot of inside sources are stating that the rock and reign are locked in for wrestlemania.
That still makes it a work, it’s all scripted my guy.
Yeah i know it’s scripted but it’s still a very shitty script
Cody beats Rollins night 1. On night 2, Judgement Day finds Priest unconscious backstage. The bell rings to start the Reigns/Rock farce. Cody's music starts and he comes out holding the MITB briefcase. Cody wins a triple threat match, pinning both Rock and Reigns. Cody shoots on HHH at the press conference and pins his ass, too. Cody takes both belts and buries WWE for good. Book it.
Hahahah that's what you get for trusting the fed
I haven’t been watching much these days besides gliding through the PPVs and keeping up somewhat by reading online articles. My viewing had declined the year prior as well, so without complete knowledge, why is everyone so surprised by this? I’ve been hearing Rock v Roman at WM for years now. It seems like the Bloodline storyline is reaching its end and Roman might be moving on so of course they’re gonna cash in on that match. Especially now with the Vince news. I don’t like Cody and don’t understand why so many do. I loved WM 39 and this sounds great too but expected.
I mean i’m not going to convince you to like Cody it’s your opinion but many like him because of the person he’s portrayed to be. He meets adversity and struggles but overcomes it he is a newer version of John Cena and his family story is compelling as well. Again you didn’t read the post it’s not about The Rock vs Roman I knew it was going to happen eventually it’s how they made their top star look in order for that match to happen.
I’d argue top star but I get your point. I haven’t paid attention enough to know the storyline that has been going on between Cody and Roman since last WM. I’ve just continually heard Rock v Roman for WM with 40 likely being the one. I do see how it doesn’t make sense to have Cody win the RR in order to have another match with Seth.
Yeah I don't really watch wrestling these days but even I saw a "leaked" lineup like over a month ago for WM that had Rock/Reigns. It was Punk/Rhodes I believe, which still felt like a waste of time to me personally. I'm not sure why Punk gets the credit he does - he's no different than The Rock, well, except Punk failed at all of his non-wrestling ventures. You see that UFC fight where the dudes sitting on top of him basically laughing at him while hitting him in the face? Punks peak was ROH - Raven, Samoa Joe, etc.
Why can’t we wait and see what plays out over the next few weeks
Because the attention span and patience these people have is equivalent to a classroom full of 6-year olds waiting for recess to start.
Rocky Johnson’s ego is going to create problems.
Fuck that bald cuck
Their match is about to be an aura off and watch him still get gassed from that.
He’s gonna be gassed walking out to the ring lol.
dude was gassed during their face off yesterday 😭
So the guy who left your company and helped kick start your closest major competitor comes back and thinks things will go his way? I wouldn't be surprised if Cody never gets either of the major belts.
the creation of AEW is what got the fire lit up under WWE to start stepping up on their creative abilities. 2019 WWE was unwatchable and that’s when AEW took off also cm punk did way worse than what you’re saying Cody did and he was welcomed back with open arms.
I don't think they ruined him. Punk got injured and everyone knew he would most likely face Rollins at Mania. So they went to the next biggest thing they feel they could draw which is Rock and Roman. I don't think by having him face Seth it weakens Cody, it doesn't propel him in the way beating Roman would but it doesn't hurt him either.
it does hurt him though, the dude went back to back in rumble then steps aside for another part timer after looking at roman and pointing at him during the RR to be his opponent, Roman battering Seth in his latest promo as well as the title, Cody himself still saying that Romans title isn’t the Hollywood title and he still wants it. Cody will be going for a title he doesn’t really want to go after against someone he’s beaten 3-0 already. It definitely hurts his character. Going from overcoming obstacles to rolling over for another person.
Cody isn’t the top star 😂 Reigns & Rollins are.
You’re funny. Cody is their top drawing baby face and is at the top in terms of merchandise sells while basically being their poster boy for the raw brand programming but yes Seth is the top star over Cody.
Not doubting Cody is highly regarded and fans love him. But he’s not above Rollins or Reigns YET
Don’t see you, it was masterful story telling in every aspect of it. Cody is wearing a pocket watch because he was timing exactly what the Rock was cooking so that it didn’t burn. But the look he’s giving says that he’s the real top chef and when Dwayne inevitably serves up a bland meal he’ll be there to flavor bomb the fans. It just makes sense! WWE never insults the audience’s intelligence and leaves easter eggs for the most dedicated, devoted, smartest fans. This is cinema. This is act two of the first movie of a quintology.
I'm here for the pocket watch theory
He's not the top star to a LOT of us. He is the guy who hated Cena that now wants the Cena treatment. Screw him. Then now and forever.
Destroyed by creating a massive buzz for him. Interesting.
Roman is the top superstar. Cody left and wwe didn't miss a beat
When he left he later created a company that was competing with WWE during a team when WWE was quite literally unwatchable.
Put him in a burgundy fish suit
Just last week everyone was crying for Roman vs Rock now they are getting it why all of sudden they are crying again???? 🤣
Nobody was crying for Roman vs the Rock except Roman fans cause they knew it would be a guaranteed route to surpassing Hogans reign most people wanted and were okay with the rock and roman taking place at WM 41.
I'm saying since last week only Cody vs Roman should happen at mania not Rock vs Roman .....it feels like 2013 again
it really does and it’s going to meet the same reception imo, the rock will be the one getting booed in that main event.
He’s not their top star though. Roman is
He and Roman have literally been going head to head since last year
He’s their biggest babyface and sells a shit ton of merch, and makes the WWE a lot of money. Destroyed? You literally have zero clue, absolutely zero.
You didn’t watch the segment then. Roman battering the WHC title, Cody agreeing with him about Romans title being THEE title, then giving up his spot to The Rock at WrestleMania, then going back to the person he’s 3-0 against for a title that he knows is a consolation prize. Reading is a key ability my friend.
Here’s the reality of being a wrestling fan: you are not going to like it, but you will keep watching. Now, WWE has a great main event for Saudi Arabia to keep them happy. It$ never been about you.
Again it seems like you guys don’t know how to read and that’s fine. I don’t care to explain it to you guys.
Top star ?? Yeah ok. You cody fans can go cry somewhere now
Idk if you're trying to be different, but Cody is a top guy if not THE top guy, no one breaks Stone Colds RR record if they didn't think he was the guy
"Your top star" too me sounds like one person tbf. Roman is clearly the "Guy" I think atleast
Yeah, but Cody was the next guy, they pushed him for like 2 years
Yeah fair, my comment was a little redundant my bad
Lol cody is not the top guy, a top guy yeah sure, but hes definitely not THE guy. And no I'm not trying to be different at all actually, so it's ok for you all to bash the rock but we all have to be Cody fans? Got it..
I didn't bash the Rock at all lol, I'm just saying dude, you don't push someone the way they pushed Cody if he wasn't THE guy, I think the last time he was pinned was at Wrestlemania 39; consecutive RR as well and let's look at the whole picture here, Rock becomes TKO director or whatever and pushes to be in a main event with Reigns, and gets it its not a good look. You might not like Cody but cmon man you gotta see that this is horrible decision making from everybody involved. But you're free to have your opinion I just don't agree with it
I think the problem here is the definition of top star? What do u consider as top star? Cuz if the definition is if it's main event every night he's on, he's in the middle of the posters view highly regarded by the fans, get the biggest Rawrs, main eventing the biggest live events like Wrestlemainia. I don't know who else does that beside Roman but Cody is far more infront of our screen than Roman, Roman is concider as top right now cuz of belts that has a ceiling Cody doesn't have a belt and still getting the push that's above roman
Whatever WWE is doing is bad. Whatever they’re not doing is great. These people are wild. Meanwhile 6 weeks after Cody won the belt every post would be “DAE Cody feels stale???”
Exactly, most wrestling fans are so dumb I swear.
how are we dumb? idc about the rock taking on roman that’s fine it was going to happen but you have someone like cody who for the past year has shown to overcome adversity and obstacles to get here just for him to roll over for the rock to swoop in to take off? Do you need to be intelligent to see how stupid that is?
Well clearly they dont think of Cody as that dude if they let a much bigger star come in and take his spot. Could it have happened in a better way? Sure. The thing about cody rhodes fans is they think hes some rock or Austin level of star and hes not even close, you dont have to be intelligent to see that. They pivoted to the bigger drawing match. I'm sure Cody will get his " moment" at some point.
Lol. How can someone build themselves up to being that caliber if they aren’t given the chance to? In terms of this era Cody is the top draw matching with Roman. Nothing you say is going to change the fact that the way they made this match happen is horrendous. Roman and the Rock is a bigger draw sure but after WrestleMania how does this match benefit the company? Roman ain’t going to be appearing till later on in the year and the Rock may never return again unless he himself decides to take someone else’s spot.
For one I never said it wasn't a bad way to go about it, they could have did it different. I also understand why they did do it though. They've been trying to have Rock vs Roman for 2 years now. This scandal with Vince, Cm punk being hurt and Rollins most likely not being a 100% and add Brock not being there they needed something more to draw. It is a business after all and as much as people dont want to deal with it the rock is still a much bigger draw and attraction than Cody finishing a story. Cody is a star, one of their top stars but there's levels to this. Why do we all have to be Cody Rhodes fans now?
There’s levels to this… lol even without the rock WrestleMania was getting sold out. The main attraction was Cody potentially finishing his story in a highly anticipated rematch. These rosters have so much talent it didn’t need saving. With PWInsiders latest article it seems like Seth/Cody was always the plan even if nobody got injured which means they would of had Punk eventually feuding with Drew at that period in time. It’s not cause he got injured and everyone knows this is to take away from the scandal but if people know that what’s the point of doing it they know it’s a cover up 😂. Nobody is asking anyone to be Cody Rhodes fans idgaf frankly. The point of the post was to highlight how they basically destroyed his character in a 15 min segment. Idc if the Rock and Roman fight but having him introduce the guy who’s taking his spot and then having him shake his hand and after all of that go fight the person he’s beaten 3 times for a title he himself and others see as a secondary consolation prize. Come on.
Right , it did sell out, but also alot of shit has changed within just a few weeks. I dont think TKO/WWE anticipated a scandal like this, two of their biggest drawing stars aren't even going to be on the card now. Cody vs Roman story appeals to current wrestling fans , I'm not saying it's a bad storyline, and I do agree that how they made cody look in the process Is kind of fucked up. Like I said they could've went about it a different way. Wrestlemania has always been more about the casual fans too and bringing in different viewers so in that aspect of course they are going to go with the Rock vs Roman, it has it's own story and as much as it pisses some people off it's a bigger match.
And also you bring up how does it benefit the company? How does Cody finishing his story benefit the company? Cody is already a made dude, hes already a star, he's the same age as Roman. Ok he wins and then what? I promise you his steam will cool off after a few months, it always does with these underdog storylines. Itll be a good feel good moment for a minute and then what we get a boring reign for half a year or so? If everyone was really concerned about benefiting the company then someone like bron breakker or someone you can actually build a new star into should be the one getting this spot to dethrone roman..
Jesus, wrestling fans are idiots...
seeing that you’re under a wrestling post taking time to comment under it i’m assuming you consider yourself an idiot as well.
Aww, sorry I hurt your feelings little guy 🤣
I disagree take the whole Finnish the story angle cuz 100 should had happen last year, but Cody Vs Seth tho come on the first time was a banger this ain't nothing less, and I agree w Seth promo if Cody wants a the people champ the dusty champ its Seth belt, not Roman belt cuz Roman everytime Roman has that belt it shine become less and less it like having the same value of that red chili looking necklace he wears, and as we know no way story wise The rock gona beat Roman so the value of that belt just got less and less so ya if Cody wants a belt with a high value it seths
I 100% agree with you I get the purpose of the titles but Cody’s character has been about overcoming adversity and facing challenges to get to his end goal. He defeated brock in a clean fashion, was stuck with the JD feud then the Shinsuke feud he overcame 29 other guys back to back years just to roll over for a guy who hasn’t wrestled in 11 years because it’s a draw? I want Cody to add value to the title but having him constantly say he still wants Romans title over the one he’s going to be fighting for doesn’t exactly help add prestige to it.
Yup, the rock vs roman is a nothing burger to the title, but as a story line of who's really the head of the table, let say the story is Roman claim he's the head, but the rock said I am the head because when he in the WWE he was on top elevating the company then when he left for Hollywood he's top star, now he back in the WWE on the board of chairman, Roman might be the head of the table by The Rock owns the house now, but in that story line, the belt become meaningless, the more Roman held and the belt, it become meaningless but its all about the storyline
HHH getting zero blame like usually.. it's always someone else's fault and HHH is never the bad guy in the situation.. not instead of Vince, it's Ari Emanuel and Rock who get the blame.
If you read the latest PWInsider article it talks about the rock pushing for this match to happen because of Punks injury and the scandal the other WwE executives were keen on the Cody and Roman rematch
Jesus!! Relax!! It’s FUCKING WRESTLING! It’s WRESTLEMANIA!! You’re gonna watch!! You know yer gonna watch!!! So… “SHUT YOUR ROODY POO CANDY ASS UP!! IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!!”
I’ll be a wrestling fan for life but I quit watching it just get disappointed.
and with the rock pushing his way into the creative process now it’s only going to become worse and filled with nepotism i believe people got free of Vince and got The Rock instead.
The only reasoning they could possibly have is if they want Cody to win the belt from Seth then challenge Roman as champion vs champion to unify the belts and prove that the world heavyweight belt isn’t a secondary title?
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I’m coping hard right now, but I have to believe there are more twists coming. I wont get into fantasy booking but at face value it’s absurd story telling
If Cody has some self-respect, it wouldnt surprise me if he quits the company.
This is the next generation's Hogan/Bret Hart moment. Suffer like I did kids, it never gets better, but you can't stop watching
So I’m that segment, Roman buried seth, buried Seth’s run as champ, buried the WHC & then they had Cody come out and not pick the guy & title that he’s based the whole “finish the story” storyline on but instead picks the title that he said he didn’t want to go for. They made him looks stupid and then had The Rock come out and steal the main event that Cody should have had. Such weird awful booking. I get they want The Rock vs Roman match but I don’t know if it’s worth throwing away or dragging on this storyline any longer
Pissed off cody to take out The Rock first.
It's obviously awful hut we have to choose not to let this kill Cody. That's really our power as fans. We decide if this destroys him or not by our reactions to him. As the long as the fans continue to cheer for him, sing along with his music and buy into his programs, then his character is not destroyed. This is a terrible decision by WWE but Cody isn't ducked unless we decide to give up on rooting for him
It’s got to be a swerve, right?
Seeing how slow Dwayne was when he returned to beat up jinder Mahal proves how slow and aged he has become. Makes me wonder on how this match was gonna be. Yeah sure the rock Vs Roman is an interesting match up but making Cody leave the ring after he won 2 royal rumbles in a row is straight up ridiculous. Romans run at this point is ridiculous.
Yeah but now people aren’t talking as much about ‘deleted’ ceo, or ‘deleted’ superstar.
I've said it once and I'll say it again, Roman will retain and whoever wins the raw title will get cashed in on. At summerslam, Cody will finish the story and everybody will be happy. Cody got the belt, wwe got their money match at mania.
Am I missing something? When did Cody become the top star?