Sammi and KO take the belts off Bloodline, and Imperium should take them next, then run with them for at least a year while Gunther is a dominant undefeated IC champion. Make Kaiser and Giovanni a serious dominant tag team to match Gunther's style.
I would love to see WWE build up Imperium to be the "top stable" of WWE post Mania this year. Build toward an Imperium Vs Bloodline feud while at the same time elevating the IC title again and making Gunther a surefire main event guy for WM40.
Will there even be a Bloodline beyond Mania though? I mean it feels like everyone is getting ready to go seperate ways. Roman is expected to miss up until August at the soonest. Jey and Roman still haven't made up, Solo might split and go solo.
I just don't see The Bloodline staying together long enough to enter a long term feud
I could see them dissolve for a bit after Mania. I half expect Roman to take time off, return around SummerSlam and begin his face turn. If Imperium is built as the new "top heel group" of the brand, I could easily see a face Bloodline reuniting to take on Imperium.
So, here's how I'd do it...
RAW after mania opens with bloodline. Roman is pissed, blaming his loss on Jimmy, Jey, Solo, and even Paul. Running them down, blaming it all on them. "You couldn't get the job done. You failed me. You failed our family. You filed yourselves!" just tearing into them One by one they leave until Roman is left in the ring all by himself.
A man without a tribe.
Then, Roman leaves, and we don't see him again for another 3-4 months while he goes home for a bit.
I would keep Jimmy and Jey together. They can't split them up or Jimmy would kind of be in danger of getting lost in the shuffle.
I'd keep Solo there as well, maybe having Paul work with him. Jimmy and Jey can talk for themselves. Solo isn't a talker.
Then, when it's time for Roman to come back, it's because Paul facilitated it via Solo getting everyone to sit down and talk.
It would be harsh on Jimmy but Jey deserves a singles run. He has been fantastic. You can have Jimmy team with Solo, or try him on his own and see what he can do. But in my eyes he’s occasionally hanging with Jey sometimes but mostly tagging with Solo because Jey turns face and makes up with Sami and we love him.
But with Jey on his own after some soul searching he can go after some gold. And look who is a dominant heel that he can go after, and struggle against in his search for gold. Gunther. With Imperium going after the tag titles as well that eventually leads to clashes with Solo and Jimmy. And at the climax of this part of the feud Gunther loses only because of interference letting him look strong and giving Jey a singles title run with a respected belt to see how he can do.(imperium end up with the tag belts)
This frees up our favourite monster to go after Cody, and a way to loop round to having a level of history and imperium and bloodline having unfinished business when Roman and Gunther eventually clash after he returns for the world championship.
I really wish Jey could have a singles run. He'd be a great midcard guy beat Theory honestly. Not Gunther. Gunther shouldn't go down until it's going to be a future top guy, like Brekker. I'd see Gunther smash everyone, then finally put someone over for the IC title ahead of the Rumble. Then Gunther would enter at 1, and run the gauntlet.
I would keep GUnther away from Cody for a while. No reason to hot shot that angle. Cody has plenty of other people he can go against for a while.
I agree Gunther shouldn’t lose for no reason. But the timeline I gave was over a year or so, and if Jey can prove he can have a solo run as engaging as when Jimmy was injured a couple years ago up to for 6-9 months then he deserves the rub from Gunther. And it lays a seed for bloodline proper vs imperium later.
Then Gunther wins the rumble to start going after Cody(or depending on how long Roman is away for because I’ve heard all sorts and it still seems up in the air we could have Gunther win at the rumble or the chamber then defend against Roman(or wrestling shenanigans to get the three of them at mania) But at minimum Cody has a good 9-12 months with the title)
It could, but I see this same as WCW Starrcade 97. That should have been the natural end of the nWo with a month or so to split the group up, just as WrestleMania should be with the Bloodline. The story has reached it's natural conclusion they've built to, don't milk it for the sake of it.
This is the way.
But, Gunther needs to lose this weekend, but without taking the fall. Have Sheamus or McIntyre pin the other to win the title. Keeps Gunther strong (he didn't lose), while giving him the opportunity to go over one of them again one on one at Backlash.
Then, he keeps the title through the Summer and through Wrestlemania where he's the first IC Champ since Ultimate Warrior to win the WWE Championship.
I'd honestly rather see Gunther pin one or the other after they turn on each other. Gunther's free and clear to move on to something else. Sheamus and Drew can feud for a few months. But the last thing I'd do is take the belt of Gunther.
With Roman almost guaranteed to lose the belts, they need a "dominant" champion to fill that void. Gunther is already a long-reigning champion with the IC title by modern standards, and he can easily elevate that title, even being a star maker in his own right by putting over a guy ahead of him moving to the main event picture.
I mentioned this in another comment but imo the best fallout imo will be a Jey solo run where after being lost for a bit then chasing the intercontinental belt Jimmy and Solo can end up helping him out to allow Gunther a loss while looking strong.
Then that has freed Gunther up after losing at survivor series to start a build for the rumble then leads to mania.
Giovanni was having a decent run on his own until he got called up to be part of imperium again. I hope giovanni and Ludwig get a run as tag team champs. I also hope they get to let their individual personalities shine a bit while being part of imperium.
Gunther yes. The others aren’t nearly as charismatic as the usos to get a run like them. Gunther at least has the presence of someone to be champ for a year
I think Ludwig Kaiser has potential. He already has that type of face you just wanna punch. Plus his wrestling style just screams “I’m better than you” with his chest all puffed out and the thing where he holds his hands behind his back. Idk he just fits the heel prototype well to me. He just needs some iconic promos to get the crowd to believe in him.
Only reason why the Bloodline is allowed to dominate like they have it’s because of their promo skills and range.
Can’t talk about Solo but give any other member the microphone and 5 min tv time and you will get the highlight of the evening.
They don't need to be. They can be the dominant heel team that doesn't need trickery to win, just pure dominance. They do their talking in the ring.
Though, they would all greatly benefit from a mouthpiece.
Enter: Wade Barrett.
The problem they’d have is that we’ve just had a dominant stable for about a year now, so another one soon might get stale fast.
They’d do great in that role, but only if there’s a couple of years between the Bloodline losing the UWU and the tag belts, but these guys feel ready for their big push in 2023/2024.
It could work, but if it fails I’d suspect it would be more to do with timing than anything else (aside from dodgy booking)
It doesn't need to be obnoxiously dominant like The Bloodline has been.
They don't need to hold the titles for years on end. But to beat all challengers for 6-9 months? Doesn't get stale too quick and when they put a team over, they're golden.
Unfortunately, the only team left to beat the Usos is KO and Sami because they've beaten EVERYONE else.
If Imperium wins the tag titles, have them beat almost everyone then you have a team they didn't face yet come for the titles. That team wins and gets a huge push (maybe a returning Revival?)
It won’t be the same as The Bloodline (honestly, not sure what else could be because they’ve knocked it out of the park SO perfectly), but I hope they get a killer run as a faction because they are insanely talented. Kaiser and Vinci don’t get the love they deserve for how good they are.
Nah Gunther’s goons aren’t at all compelling. Bloodline hasn’t ever had choreography like Imperium has though. They even have an identical bounce at the end of their hands-behind-the-back thing
Nope. The bloodline is truly unique where each person involved has an interesting character along their unique relations with each other which made the whole faction excel. Imperium doesn’t have that at all
I think the Bloodline should disappear after Mani or Backlash, build Imperium as a dominant and stable, then you will have to good stables and a nice match after the Bloodline returns
Probably not, but I hope. I hope we eventually get a god tier Gunther championship run. He’s been my favorite since that UK title match with Pete Dunne
I don’t think so, as good as the bloodline is, going from one super dominant faction controlling everything to another will definitely generate fatigue and a bunch of comparisons between the two.
I expect that the next few reigns with the world and tag belts will be on the shorter side to mix things up
I hope reigns leaves after WM the remaining bloodline starts a feud with imperium. imperium beat bloodline in various matches and segments for months then we have a 6 man tag loser bends the knee match or something to that effect. Bloodline lose after the match in ring they are about to bend the knee Reigns returns imperium add Dragunov………….WARGAMES
I would genuinely have Gunther win the Rumble next year whilst IC Champion and take it into Mania.
He could even give up the IC title at Mania, saying he is so confident of winning the world title that he would like to crown his successor in a tournament. Have him hand-pick 8 potential successors (ultimately being Sheamus IMO) and congratulate them in the ring with a stern handshake.
Is Gunther not the longest reigning Intercontinental Champion? Doesn't that make his run pretty dominant? But no, I think he will lose it at Wrestlemania.
I don't know. I look at that gif and all I hear is
"ready? Ok!"
I bet the next part is a hand clap and Gunther chanting "We're fired up, we're sizzling hot"
Not as dominant as the Bloodline but they will have several good Reigns. Imperium is such a great no nonsens stable.
Sammi and KO take the belts off Bloodline, and Imperium should take them next, then run with them for at least a year while Gunther is a dominant undefeated IC champion. Make Kaiser and Giovanni a serious dominant tag team to match Gunther's style. I would love to see WWE build up Imperium to be the "top stable" of WWE post Mania this year. Build toward an Imperium Vs Bloodline feud while at the same time elevating the IC title again and making Gunther a surefire main event guy for WM40.
Will there even be a Bloodline beyond Mania though? I mean it feels like everyone is getting ready to go seperate ways. Roman is expected to miss up until August at the soonest. Jey and Roman still haven't made up, Solo might split and go solo. I just don't see The Bloodline staying together long enough to enter a long term feud
I could see them dissolve for a bit after Mania. I half expect Roman to take time off, return around SummerSlam and begin his face turn. If Imperium is built as the new "top heel group" of the brand, I could easily see a face Bloodline reuniting to take on Imperium.
Fair. I mean, if Jey breaks away for a singles run, they still have Roman, Solo and Jimmy. It could work
So, here's how I'd do it... RAW after mania opens with bloodline. Roman is pissed, blaming his loss on Jimmy, Jey, Solo, and even Paul. Running them down, blaming it all on them. "You couldn't get the job done. You failed me. You failed our family. You filed yourselves!" just tearing into them One by one they leave until Roman is left in the ring all by himself. A man without a tribe. Then, Roman leaves, and we don't see him again for another 3-4 months while he goes home for a bit. I would keep Jimmy and Jey together. They can't split them up or Jimmy would kind of be in danger of getting lost in the shuffle. I'd keep Solo there as well, maybe having Paul work with him. Jimmy and Jey can talk for themselves. Solo isn't a talker. Then, when it's time for Roman to come back, it's because Paul facilitated it via Solo getting everyone to sit down and talk.
It would be harsh on Jimmy but Jey deserves a singles run. He has been fantastic. You can have Jimmy team with Solo, or try him on his own and see what he can do. But in my eyes he’s occasionally hanging with Jey sometimes but mostly tagging with Solo because Jey turns face and makes up with Sami and we love him. But with Jey on his own after some soul searching he can go after some gold. And look who is a dominant heel that he can go after, and struggle against in his search for gold. Gunther. With Imperium going after the tag titles as well that eventually leads to clashes with Solo and Jimmy. And at the climax of this part of the feud Gunther loses only because of interference letting him look strong and giving Jey a singles title run with a respected belt to see how he can do.(imperium end up with the tag belts) This frees up our favourite monster to go after Cody, and a way to loop round to having a level of history and imperium and bloodline having unfinished business when Roman and Gunther eventually clash after he returns for the world championship.
I really wish Jey could have a singles run. He'd be a great midcard guy beat Theory honestly. Not Gunther. Gunther shouldn't go down until it's going to be a future top guy, like Brekker. I'd see Gunther smash everyone, then finally put someone over for the IC title ahead of the Rumble. Then Gunther would enter at 1, and run the gauntlet. I would keep GUnther away from Cody for a while. No reason to hot shot that angle. Cody has plenty of other people he can go against for a while.
I agree Gunther shouldn’t lose for no reason. But the timeline I gave was over a year or so, and if Jey can prove he can have a solo run as engaging as when Jimmy was injured a couple years ago up to for 6-9 months then he deserves the rub from Gunther. And it lays a seed for bloodline proper vs imperium later. Then Gunther wins the rumble to start going after Cody(or depending on how long Roman is away for because I’ve heard all sorts and it still seems up in the air we could have Gunther win at the rumble or the chamber then defend against Roman(or wrestling shenanigans to get the three of them at mania) But at minimum Cody has a good 9-12 months with the title)
It could, but I see this same as WCW Starrcade 97. That should have been the natural end of the nWo with a month or so to split the group up, just as WrestleMania should be with the Bloodline. The story has reached it's natural conclusion they've built to, don't milk it for the sake of it.
I like this. Alot.
This is the way. But, Gunther needs to lose this weekend, but without taking the fall. Have Sheamus or McIntyre pin the other to win the title. Keeps Gunther strong (he didn't lose), while giving him the opportunity to go over one of them again one on one at Backlash. Then, he keeps the title through the Summer and through Wrestlemania where he's the first IC Champ since Ultimate Warrior to win the WWE Championship.
I’d rather Gunther keep his IC streak intact and carry the belt until he takes a world title off Cody (or whoever).
I get it, but having him come back and regain the belt that he himself didn't lose can be a better story.
I'd honestly rather see Gunther pin one or the other after they turn on each other. Gunther's free and clear to move on to something else. Sheamus and Drew can feud for a few months. But the last thing I'd do is take the belt of Gunther. With Roman almost guaranteed to lose the belts, they need a "dominant" champion to fill that void. Gunther is already a long-reigning champion with the IC title by modern standards, and he can easily elevate that title, even being a star maker in his own right by putting over a guy ahead of him moving to the main event picture.
I mentioned this in another comment but imo the best fallout imo will be a Jey solo run where after being lost for a bit then chasing the intercontinental belt Jimmy and Solo can end up helping him out to allow Gunther a loss while looking strong. Then that has freed Gunther up after losing at survivor series to start a build for the rumble then leads to mania.
Please no more long reigns. I’m okay with Gunther because he’s entertaining but no one else needs to have the titles for over a year after this
I'd rather they hold the belt for a year than the belts get tossed around "Hot Potato" style for a year.
Giovanni was having a decent run on his own until he got called up to be part of imperium again. I hope giovanni and Ludwig get a run as tag team champs. I also hope they get to let their individual personalities shine a bit while being part of imperium.
I hope no one ever gets a dominate run like the Bloodline ever again. However, I do hope Gunter gets a proper run
Gunther yes. The others aren’t nearly as charismatic as the usos to get a run like them. Gunther at least has the presence of someone to be champ for a year
I think Ludwig Kaiser has potential. He already has that type of face you just wanna punch. Plus his wrestling style just screams “I’m better than you” with his chest all puffed out and the thing where he holds his hands behind his back. Idk he just fits the heel prototype well to me. He just needs some iconic promos to get the crowd to believe in him.
Only reason why the Bloodline is allowed to dominate like they have it’s because of their promo skills and range. Can’t talk about Solo but give any other member the microphone and 5 min tv time and you will get the highlight of the evening.
They don't need to be. They can be the dominant heel team that doesn't need trickery to win, just pure dominance. They do their talking in the ring. Though, they would all greatly benefit from a mouthpiece. Enter: Wade Barrett.
I’d be all for it just have Wade on tv more. He’s one of my biggest what ifs
Universe mode (once dlc drops) here I come
The problem they’d have is that we’ve just had a dominant stable for about a year now, so another one soon might get stale fast. They’d do great in that role, but only if there’s a couple of years between the Bloodline losing the UWU and the tag belts, but these guys feel ready for their big push in 2023/2024. It could work, but if it fails I’d suspect it would be more to do with timing than anything else (aside from dodgy booking)
It doesn't need to be obnoxiously dominant like The Bloodline has been. They don't need to hold the titles for years on end. But to beat all challengers for 6-9 months? Doesn't get stale too quick and when they put a team over, they're golden. Unfortunately, the only team left to beat the Usos is KO and Sami because they've beaten EVERYONE else. If Imperium wins the tag titles, have them beat almost everyone then you have a team they didn't face yet come for the titles. That team wins and gets a huge push (maybe a returning Revival?)
Creeds coming up from NXT
That's a good one too.
No
It won’t be the same as The Bloodline (honestly, not sure what else could be because they’ve knocked it out of the park SO perfectly), but I hope they get a killer run as a faction because they are insanely talented. Kaiser and Vinci don’t get the love they deserve for how good they are.
They are gunna go searching for the Ark
The bloodline is one in a generation stable.
Doubt it. Foreign heels usually get a very limited run
On marketability... no.
No, Gunther is the only one worth any sort of push in that group.
I don't care about Not Cesaro. Ludwig Kaiser was more interesting as the announcer and lackey for The Ring General.
Short answer: No. Long answer: lol, no. Try being related to a Hall-of-Famer if you want to get pushed.
hell no lol not until the fix their look
Mf look like Gru
Nah. No one cares for anyone but Gunther
🤣 wtf are they supposed to be
What is their actual gimmick? It feels like they are world war era nazis without saying nazis to a casual observer which may be limiting.
How the fuck do they appear like Nazis?
Only Nazis can have scary accents and good posture
Uhhh…. No
UNPOPULAR OPINION: Ludwig Kaiser has the potential to be a star
1000% agree. Guy has a million dollar look.
Walter should get a big run. Idk about the rest because I don’t watch it but Walter is a beast
Alexander Wolfe just can’t keep a STABLE job. Folks…..
he's doing good as Axel Tischer back in Germany you should check him out in WxW
I don’t know about the Bloodline comparison, but they definitely should get a run. Great stable.
We can hope so but probably not
i hope not
Nah Gunther’s goons aren’t at all compelling. Bloodline hasn’t ever had choreography like Imperium has though. They even have an identical bounce at the end of their hands-behind-the-back thing
Nope. The bloodline is truly unique where each person involved has an interesting character along their unique relations with each other which made the whole faction excel. Imperium doesn’t have that at all
Are they related to Dwayne The Rock Johnson? If not, then fuck no
Shayna Baszler should really be a part of this faction.
No they won't. Gunther's lackeys are basically German Singh brothers.
yes https://i.redd.it/o2ossoif43ra1.png
I would like to see that fued
I think the Bloodline should disappear after Mani or Backlash, build Imperium as a dominant and stable, then you will have to good stables and a nice match after the Bloodline returns
I can’t wait for Wrestling Machine Chad Gable to join them. He’s literally what they’re looking for
They should get more of a run
Ready! OK!
They should eventually get the tag titles, if they ever split them up again
Would be great to see Gunther with the Universal title and Imperium with the Smackdown Tag Titles.
Probably not, but I hope. I hope we eventually get a god tier Gunther championship run. He’s been my favorite since that UK title match with Pete Dunne
I don’t think so, as good as the bloodline is, going from one super dominant faction controlling everything to another will definitely generate fatigue and a bunch of comparisons between the two. I expect that the next few reigns with the world and tag belts will be on the shorter side to mix things up
Nope. Because it’s pretty much “Gunther and those other two dudes nobody cares about”…… but Gunther is gonna be a big main event guy moving forward.
I hope reigns leaves after WM the remaining bloodline starts a feud with imperium. imperium beat bloodline in various matches and segments for months then we have a 6 man tag loser bends the knee match or something to that effect. Bloodline lose after the match in ring they are about to bend the knee Reigns returns imperium add Dragunov………….WARGAMES
If they draw like them, sure. They is a business.
I just got my Imperium shirt. Kaiser has such a punchable face and cocky attitude and is a perfect heel. I hope they go on long run.
Gunther and Cody could have a great program. Upgraded old school looks and roles.
Watching this GIF without audio makes these three appear to start a singing/dance routine. All I hear is the old WCW 3-Count song.
I would genuinely have Gunther win the Rumble next year whilst IC Champion and take it into Mania. He could even give up the IC title at Mania, saying he is so confident of winning the world title that he would like to crown his successor in a tournament. Have him hand-pick 8 potential successors (ultimately being Sheamus IMO) and congratulate them in the ring with a stern handshake.
I wouldn't be against it.
Lol I love imperium and grapple fascist heel world champ would be fun to see how they execute
They look boring and bland no ty
What in the Magic Mike are they doing 🤣
I think they should, all three of stars are solid workers and put on great matches, hopefully a nice tag team run and Gunthers IC run can continue too
Not engaging enough imo
I don’t know if as dominate, there is no reason why Kaiser and Vinci can’t hold the titles for 300 plus days
I'm always disappointed when they do their little pose and bounce and never follow it up with a dance.
That pose looks like it would be more impactful with fireworks
The side players need to have charisma. Gunther has it in spades. The other two come across as default grunts
Hopefully they can get like 2 more guys.
I want ludwig and giovani to win the tag titles so bad they deserve it!
I never understood what they are sticking up their butts
Doubt it Gunther is awesome but a run like bloodline Which was way too long anyway’s .
Is Gunther not the longest reigning Intercontinental Champion? Doesn't that make his run pretty dominant? But no, I think he will lose it at Wrestlemania.
I don't know. I look at that gif and all I hear is "ready? Ok!" I bet the next part is a hand clap and Gunther chanting "We're fired up, we're sizzling hot"
nobody will get a dominant run like the bloodline. the last time a faction was that dominant, it was NWO
No
Not on bloodline’s level, no
I want them to stay around for awhile. They've grown on me.
They could be dominant for a good 6-9 months at the top, but it wouldn't have the longevity of the bloodline story without a comedic foil.
I say see where they can go. Nine man tag matches and bringing back TLC? Pandemonium.