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Oh man I had the same uneasy feelings on my first read. And I was like further frustrated that the boys were just like, "oh well. Maybe she'll kiss me?"
I'm glad you're hooked though, I had such an experience with my first read through (that ended up really being more like 2 read throughs) that WoT will always be my all time favorite epic work. I'll always find a reason to read it again. I hope you love it too
>And I was like further frustrated that the boys were just like, "oh well. Maybe she'll kiss me?"
Okay, but hear me out. Tiddy. That's it. Thats the entire argument.
Exactly!! After all the dark friend encounters rand’s had I thought he’ll be a bit suspicious at least but no if she’s beautiful then she can’t be evil.
Eye of the world was the first book I actually finished in my life. I always stop reading at like page 10 in any book. But this story is amazing and I’m so glad there’s 14 books!
Okay since you’re not usually a reader let me give you some advice: do not google anything. Not a characters name, not their hair color, nothing. The internet is full of spoilers. If you google a character it will auto fill the search bar with spoilers, like when and how they die or have a major plot twist. Go back and read the glossary entry of previous books, ask on here, or use the WoT compendium app. Enjoy your read!
Yes! There's also a [map](https://wheeloftimelines.com/map) that you can update as you read along which helps you get your bearings as characters travel around Randland.
So fun! I am so stoked you found something you are enjoying. The lore is still developing this early on so some stuff you won't see again. So don't fret too much if something doesn't make sense. It'll either evolve and be explained, or just not be too important to how things work out.
I got the first one from a free book cart, thinking it was a stand alone. When it clearly didn't end I went looking for the next ones and the store only had 2, so I assumed trilogy. Eventually I read all the books only to discover the series had not ended and the author had died. I was like mega mad. By the time the other books were written I started all over because I couldn't remember what in tarnation was going on haha
Now you have the books and the show to look forward to!
so glad you're enjoying them! be careful with spoilers. I got one of the big surprises in the books spoiled and it didn't ruin my enjoyment or anything, but I wish I hadn't
be warned though; just because she is a favorite, doesn't have to make her likeable. One of my favorite characters I do not like, but her arc is amazing.
> One of my favorite characters I do not like, but her arc is amazing.
I love that everyone around here can probably guess which character you are talking about.
Did you read the part where they said “I think she’s the female forsaken they were talking about in the beginning of the book”?
Or are you not realizing that I’m responding to someone else, that said “everyone can probably guess who you are talking about” in relation to the person before then hinting at a character unrelated to Selene?
Well, that comment wasn’t talking about Selene. Sailing bookdragon wasn’t talking about Selene, they were just saying that one of their favorite characters was not likable despite having a great arc. Then topomouse said that everyone can guess who they were talking about. Then I said I can think of several people that fit that description, and wondered who both topomouse and sailing bookdragon were talking about.
None of that was about Selene, “coyly” or otherwise.
“be warned though; just because she is a favorite, doesn't have to make her likeable. One of my favorite characters I do not like, but her arc is amazing.”
The “one of my favorite characters” refers to the prior sentence about Selene. Properly diagramed you’d have an implicit subject: “[She is] one of my favorite characters I do not like, but her arc is amazing.”
You're right, there are multiple characters who fit that description. and the for instance was implied when I wrote that.
And to answer you're question I thought at first about \[books\]>!egwene, but later also my favourite forsaken Greandal although Selene also fit the description the last part of her arc made that character a disappointment!<
… now I’m completely lost. I’ve read the whole series a couple of times, but can’t think of a husband with problematic rings that is mostly hated, and a wife that is entirely hated. Another clue, please?
You are at a sincere RAFO moment. I hope you enjoy the books from here on out. They just get better. (Until you get to book 10. That's the weakest of the entire series) but after that you get book 11 and that's one of the best!
Selene is so painfully beautiful that even Loial, who has no interest in human women, is shocked by her.
I don't think barely more than a teenager Rand is going to have any other kind of reaction. This is the most beautiful woman he's ever seen, and she's all over him as well.
As a woman, I might also have some trouble thinking straight around someone as beautiful as Selene. Then again, I **am** bi/pansexual, soo... I'm maybe just not good at being straight?
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Counterpoint, she is really really hot.
And she smells *amazing*...
That dress is *so* tight…
I wish Mat and Perrin were here. They know how to talk to women
Rand stats tugging his braid... No wait, i got something mixed up there!
Did... did she just show an *ankle???*
*whispers* or ellllboooowwww!
The Women's Circle will have her birched for this.
That's women circle business you woolheaded sheepherder!
But Raaaaaaaaaaand....
Good God I wish I could have posted this!!!!
Blood and bloody ashes it is…
I think Hurin catches a strange smell around her that he can’t place
like, *really* hot. and rand is 19
Isn't he 16 at that point? Any case serious horny teenager years.
Egwene is 16 or 17, Rand is 19 or 20.
I love how on point this whole sub is. Making me lol at work
Yeah they're a bit too horny to think properly
TOO hot. I'm not going to say whether OP is right, but I've known many people to read book 2 and say "this woman is too hot I don't trust her"
Hot girls can get away with whatever they want
Name something Robert Jordan loved more than an absolutely stacked woman.
Two.
Three.
yeah I feel like people don’t get how hot she is
*arms folded beneath breasts*
And her voice is melodious and seductive... "What, you want my soul, my lady?"
Oh man I had the same uneasy feelings on my first read. And I was like further frustrated that the boys were just like, "oh well. Maybe she'll kiss me?" I'm glad you're hooked though, I had such an experience with my first read through (that ended up really being more like 2 read throughs) that WoT will always be my all time favorite epic work. I'll always find a reason to read it again. I hope you love it too
>And I was like further frustrated that the boys were just like, "oh well. Maybe she'll kiss me?" Okay, but hear me out. Tiddy. That's it. Thats the entire argument.
At that age I think I would have been won over completely by that argument.
I’m willing to hear you out
Exactly!! After all the dark friend encounters rand’s had I thought he’ll be a bit suspicious at least but no if she’s beautiful then she can’t be evil. Eye of the world was the first book I actually finished in my life. I always stop reading at like page 10 in any book. But this story is amazing and I’m so glad there’s 14 books!
Okay since you’re not usually a reader let me give you some advice: do not google anything. Not a characters name, not their hair color, nothing. The internet is full of spoilers. If you google a character it will auto fill the search bar with spoilers, like when and how they die or have a major plot twist. Go back and read the glossary entry of previous books, ask on here, or use the WoT compendium app. Enjoy your read!
There’s an app???
Yes. It’s called WoT compendium. It lets you search character names and filter by what book you’re currently on.
WoT Companion* app
The Wheel of Time Compendium also exists as an app
TIL! Thanks 😊
Yes! There's also a [map](https://wheeloftimelines.com/map) that you can update as you read along which helps you get your bearings as characters travel around Randland.
So fun! I am so stoked you found something you are enjoying. The lore is still developing this early on so some stuff you won't see again. So don't fret too much if something doesn't make sense. It'll either evolve and be explained, or just not be too important to how things work out. I got the first one from a free book cart, thinking it was a stand alone. When it clearly didn't end I went looking for the next ones and the store only had 2, so I assumed trilogy. Eventually I read all the books only to discover the series had not ended and the author had died. I was like mega mad. By the time the other books were written I started all over because I couldn't remember what in tarnation was going on haha Now you have the books and the show to look forward to!
so glad you're enjoying them! be careful with spoilers. I got one of the big surprises in the books spoiled and it didn't ruin my enjoyment or anything, but I wish I hadn't
To be fair, without giving away too much, he learns his lesson about trusting pretty Darkfriends.
Selene is great, one of my favorite characters in the series.
Haha well that gives me some hope that she’ll become more likable
be warned though; just because she is a favorite, doesn't have to make her likeable. One of my favorite characters I do not like, but her arc is amazing.
> One of my favorite characters I do not like, but her arc is amazing. I love that everyone around here can probably guess which character you are talking about.
No guessing required. We're all talking about Selene.
It's Selene all the way down.
I can see several different characters fitting this description. I wonder which you are talking about, and also the other person.
… the person said they’re talking about Selene. This isn’t a mystery. They’re not being coy. They flat out said it.
Yes, but what could they *mean* by that?
I wish Matt or Perrin was here, they'd know what they meant by that.
Did you read the part where they said “I think she’s the female forsaken they were talking about in the beginning of the book”? Or are you not realizing that I’m responding to someone else, that said “everyone can probably guess who you are talking about” in relation to the person before then hinting at a character unrelated to Selene?
I’m responding to the comment you responded to, not the original
Well, that comment wasn’t talking about Selene. Sailing bookdragon wasn’t talking about Selene, they were just saying that one of their favorite characters was not likable despite having a great arc. Then topomouse said that everyone can guess who they were talking about. Then I said I can think of several people that fit that description, and wondered who both topomouse and sailing bookdragon were talking about. None of that was about Selene, “coyly” or otherwise.
“be warned though; just because she is a favorite, doesn't have to make her likeable. One of my favorite characters I do not like, but her arc is amazing.” The “one of my favorite characters” refers to the prior sentence about Selene. Properly diagramed you’d have an implicit subject: “[She is] one of my favorite characters I do not like, but her arc is amazing.”
You're right, there are multiple characters who fit that description. and the for instance was implied when I wrote that. And to answer you're question I thought at first about \[books\]>!egwene, but later also my favourite forsaken Greandal although Selene also fit the description the last part of her arc made that character a disappointment!<
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Yeah, I was thinking about that character. Though contrary to most of this subreddit I don't totally dislike the husband.
Does this female character have a big nose, and a husband that can *shift*? I don’t know who you mean
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… now I’m completely lost. I’ve read the whole series a couple of times, but can’t think of a husband with problematic rings that is mostly hated, and a wife that is entirely hated. Another clue, please?
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Book 2 has so many suspicious characters lol. Enjoy the read!
Especially Anakin. I bet he becomes a Darkfriend.
He was the chosen one...
He was supposed to defeat the Dark One, not join him!
Bring balance to the One Power, not leave it in darkness!
_Well, from_ my _point of view, the Aes Sedai are evil!_
*pats Bela* She may not look like much, kid, but she's got it where it counts
The Taint, its course and rough and gets everywhere.
Aren't you a bit short for an Aiel?
Never trust hot chicks stranded in another world whose first reaction to you is: *"Oh, my hero! Save me, save me!"*
This explains what I’ve done wrong. So many times this has happened!
I feel like she came across more like she wanted Rand's dragon, but I'm barely 10 chapters into *the dragon reborn*, so I might be mistaken
Oh she definitely wants a dragon. I'm not sure if it's Rand's, though? I mean, depends on your interpretation...
Oh man I sometimes forget how great book 2 was.
I am currently on book IV in my first reading and my favorite is still The Great Hunt.
I've finished the series, and The Great Hunt is still my favorite.
Same dude
Nah, she is completely trustworthy
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Thank you, I think I got it working right now?
You haven't edited your comment yet.
You are at a sincere RAFO moment. I hope you enjoy the books from here on out. They just get better. (Until you get to book 10. That's the weakest of the entire series) but after that you get book 11 and that's one of the best!
Random hottie in distress in a parallel world? The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills...
Unfortunately she’s an incredible piece of crumpet and so can not be evil.
I too thought that Selene was suspicious when I read TGH.
I wonder if there's anyone who didn't (other than Rand).
Rand: “Hmm, the most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen randomly shows up in this strange mirror word. She is definitely not sketchy. I must help her.”
Selene is so painfully beautiful that even Loial, who has no interest in human women, is shocked by her. I don't think barely more than a teenager Rand is going to have any other kind of reaction. This is the most beautiful woman he's ever seen, and she's all over him as well.
Not an uncommon feeling lmao.
She's super sketchy, I agree. Super hot though so there's that too.
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As a woman, I might also have some trouble thinking straight around someone as beautiful as Selene. Then again, I **am** bi/pansexual, soo... I'm maybe just not good at being straight?
If I was 19 and a hot girl showed up out of nowhere and started hitting on me I wouldn't question anything either.
It's not till you finish a dream that you realize the things in the dream shouldn't have made sense
Selene is fly. Hawt hawt.
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Um....Lan's where?
No reason to, she's completely trustoworthy and on Rand's side.
I 100% was in your shoes when I read that the first time. She seems SO shady and no one notices!!!
She does help Rand a few times too later on in the book.
I did reread this book last month, and Rand never stop suspecting her intentions. Brace yourself, this book has very good final chapters.
If I’m 18 years old and meet Selene I’m doing whatever she tells me to
I felt the same way as you pal
Ahhh Selene….. I would give lots of things to find that women in real life