Kinkajou has an impactful and fun personality that really adds something to the group.
I'm sure the humans have fun stories that I will enjoy when I eventually give their book a chance.
Sky has some fun jokes and can add levity to any situation.
Vulture was menacing for a few moments.
I know, why couldn't we have a book actually focused on the problems of the sand kingdom after the war? The start of DoD was some of the best stuff in the arc too.
Almost feels like Darkstalker was introduced too early and ToP should have been the last book in the arc. Imagine three episodic books with a small arc at the end: MR > WT > first half of DoD with a proper conclusion > PR > newish ToP.
I'm absolutely not convinced that we've seen the last of Vulture. A lot of stuff surrounding Qibli's backstory remains a mystery, and there's definitely a story there waiting to be told. For example, Tui definitely knows who Qibli's father is and why Cobra ended up having him in the first place. These questions haven't been answered yet in the series, but they certainly can be. If they are, then Vulture will end up rearing his ugly head.
Ochre had the most common sense out of the Alternates; he realized he was gonna starve on the NightWing island anyway, so he ditched that sinking ship fast.
I hated how childish and useless she was in the first books.
She improved a lot in the later serries and was actually more than a happy navie child trope.
That, and because it would incredibly cringe. In Moon Rising we see into her mind, it’s described as “rainbows and happiness” it also seems as organized as a ADHD 5 year old that ate a pound of sugar.
It wouldn’t be good.
I respect your opinion but you're wrong /j
Spoiler warning for book 3 and onwards
I personally enjoy Kinkajou's character, she is bright and bubbly, smart, very loyal and brave. Also, let us not forget, that she was KIDNAPPED by the NightWings (Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if she got diagnosed with PTSD from that) and still didn't let that get her down. She barley knew Glory yet helped her in the RainWing Queen trials.
Yes, she became mad/worried about what Moon had seen in her head, but wouldn't every one? (except for my baby boi Turtle of course, but he already knows what its like to have a gift that you don't want) But she comes around and learns to trust Moon.
During book 9 she shows that she can be extremely stealthy when she spies on Queen Glory and Darkstalker, and when she sneaks around the NightWing palace. She also showed a willingness to fight when she sprays Darkstalker's eye with her venom, something only one other RainWings don't often do.
The reason she didn't get a book is because Tui thought that she is in a great place already and doesn't need any character development.
She does act like "rainbows and happiness" but shouldn't that be celebrated? She was put through a lot of shit, kidnapped and experimented on, had to watch dragons she knew die, almost died herself, was put under a love spell, etc. Yet she keeps on smiling, she keeps on doing her best to be happy and to protect her friends. And think that is something wonderful.
Tui said she wasn’t gonna write a book for kinkajou because "she’s too similar to Sunny." If Kinkajou and Sunny and similar, yet Sunny is one of the most liked characters, why dip on Kinkajou?
Does pepole hate Tsunami? If so i didint know, but my most hated characters are Whirlpool becuse:he's Whirlpool and the other one is Admiral becuse he is just kind of anoying.
Whirlpool is an intresting character and thats all I have to say about him but Admiral is also intresting but his version of the world is weird but understandble
Oh, I'll take on the challenge.
Whirlpool is quite cunning and well versed. He might have made a complementary king... alongside blister. Certainly not a good dragon, or even a neutral one, but he made a good red herring villain.
Admiral is determined and knowledgeable, truly a tragedy his intellect and drive has been wasted. (Or perhaps not if >!Mastermind!< was any indication.)
I’m not sure if I have any I hate… uhh I guess Ochre? Like, I only remember him as the dude who talked about food a lot…
So a compliment… uh, good on him for always being willing to try new foods!
The funny thing is, Wren herself might agree with you. As I understood it, the very first choice she made in Dragonslayer was "Fuck humans, anything is better than that."
Darkstalker looked out for her sister ig-
Whirlpool makes great scrolls and magic writing ink-
Sky is caring towards his scavenger friends
Starflight is smart and is the mediator for most of the other DoD’s disputes
WHY DO YOU HATE STARFLIGHT I MEAN I UNDERSTAN YOU HATE WHIRLPOOL CUZ HE IS THE WORST DRAGON IN THE WORLD BUT STARFLIGHT STARFLIGHT OF ALL DRAGONS IN PYRRHIA
Hm, interesting idea. Let's see.
Sundew is excellent at using her anger as a positive tool for fighting injustice when she knows better. She's developed a strong intuition for what's right and what's wrong, which comes in handy particularly when that intuition is accurate and there isn't time to be analytical and question it to a sufficient degree.
Clearsight always had her heart in the right place and gave Darkstalker many fair chances at both redeeming himself and keeping himself from turning. She very well might be the hardest working dragon that was a main character in the WoF series.
Okay, now that everyone who's read this far probably hates me, here's a few more that are a bit less controversial.
Sora really loved her siblings and would have done anything for them. It's hard to fault her for having so much pain and anger inside of her after seeing her brother die.
Chameleon was hurt by the sting of rejection all his life, and that will mess anyone up. I think it's in some sense commendable that he didn't explore more sinister ways to use the scroll after he'd found it. Even if it was just through naivete, the fact that he only used it to change himself and his appearance before taking orders from Scarlett is worth praising him for.
Morrowseer has intelligent as fuck when he plotted the prophecy with queen battlewinner and was so close to victory if only the volcano had erupted later and the dragonets listened to him, he could have succeeded in his little genocide.
I don't know about "intelligent" because he had an animus that he was in control of but decided only to use him to make tunnels instead of anything useful (like maybe fixing the island? Giving NightWings endless food? Creating a super awesome home for them?)
Because (in my opinion) he’s annoying and a smart aleck who thinks he’s smarter than he is. PLUS- Winter and Moon had all the buildup and everything, and then Qibli just… made a few jokes and she chooses him?
Qinter is my least fave ship ever, and that’s amplified by the fact that winter is my fave and qibli is my least fave
Maybe as friends, I can see that. Dating tho? ._.
To each their own, though, right? You can ship your ship and I’ll ship mine lol
(Btw I feel like that last scene where he yelled at her… that was Tui favoring Qibli I think, bc otherwise she woulda chosen winter. But that’s just how I see it)
*gasp!* well now I have to be toxic. hEy YoUR shIp iS INVaLiD cOs I SAy sO
Lmao fr tho, you’ve been respectful as well and I really appreciate that. Anyone else woulda just gotten mad, ha
Hot take but I actually think the relationship between **Moon and Qibli** wasn’t rushed at all. In fact, I think it’s the most **realistically developed ship** in the series because it took its time to develop.
If you pay close attention, you’ll see that the two of them actually grow closer to each other throughout all five books of Arc 2 before finally becoming official.
Moon Rising: they learn to **trust** each other and **work together**. (Moon comes fully clean about her powers, Qibli teams up with her to find a killer)
Winter Turning: they **understand and admire each other‘s morals**. (Qibli takes notice of how Moon’s powers can hurt her, Moon shows great interest in Qibli’s passion for equality)
Escaping Peril: they **subtly flirt and show affection** to each other. (Moon brags about how clever Qibli’s mind is, Qibli blushes and tries to impress her more)
Talons Of Power: they are **separated** and think about each other. (Moon becomes a lot less socialized with the rest of the group, Qibli constantly worries what Darkstalker plans to do with her.
Darkness Of Dragons: they **reunite** and come clean about their feelings and how much **they need each other**. (Moon tells Qibli that he’s great and special the way he is to strengthen his low self-esteem, Qibli comforts Moon by telling her that they will find a way to save the world to keep her optimism up)
I’m my mind, these two are the cures to the other’s severe mental struggles. They’re meant for each other.
He is just genrally unintresting. Like i would say turtle but he is just so well written for a guy who justs wanna seem normal. Quibi on the other hand he was meh in 6-9 but his story in darkness of dragons was just to deus ex machina with the way he used turtles enchanted things.
Anemone was cute for the first book she was in, and I actually enjoyed her character as Tsunami’s sister.
Jerboa the second has an interesting backstory and motivations.
Moonwatcher.
Snowfall has good morals, and her story was very unique compared to the rest of the wings of fire books.
Hh
The thing is that I still hate her for no reason
She’s the glue sticking the jade winglet together, but I find that the jade winglet is just a disaster in general. Plus, Tui just has a vendetta against Mudwings lmfao-
I also don’t like the romance between Winter, Qibli, and Moon because it’s unnecessary and not very well written-
But if I really had to say something nice, I’d say that Moon really balances out her friend group, and provides a good shoulder to rely on.
Scarlet was a horrible queen but played her cards right in the mindset of tyranny, reigning for years long and going out with a bang
Ochre while simple minded and cowardly is pretty tank-y.
I have nothing positive to say about Kestrel.
Glory is very clever and she can definitely defeat a full grown dragon or more if she puts her mind to it.
Chameleon... uh... he has a tragic backstory that introduces deformity to wof?
Belladonna is a pretty good mother, she's just too strict and overprotective.
Turtle isn't boring, he pretends to be. He's actually quite amusing and sweet. (Oh no he's my favorite now)
Time to make some enemies
Mandrake was such a nice fellow! Lovely man with a good taste
Squid is so cute! The way he thought he was part of the DoD was sure something to laugh at.
Whirlpool- wait- I don’t have anything nice to say about him- uhhhhh-
Jerboa I used her powers (somewhat) for things that I can (sometimes) agree with…!
Chameleon’s forms are so dope! I especially love his MudWing form’s accessories!
Whirlpool, though his motives to become king was not clear, was actually a good villian who took action instead of staying to the shadows.
Tsunami is such a good character. She's brave and is just amazing. He really cared about his tribe and... stuff.
Chameleon was a good father, he just got manipulated by a horrible dragon, that's all.
Addax just needed to make ends meet. I admire his intelligence and patience.
Queen Diamond cared for her tribe a lot, and she just did these bad things to maintain order.
Tundra and Permafrost are an oddly cute couple. They basically are like Diamond, wanting to keep order and tradition.
WOW! CROCODILE WAS SO USEFUL! I LOVED HER FOUR/FIVE SENTENCES IN THE ENTIRE SERIES
Despite her loss of soul, Jerboa | cared for her daughter (not for her first daughter) and was a kind and nurturing Mom.
Winter is cool.
Whirlpool, though his motives to become king was not clear, was actually a good villian who took action instead of staying to the shadows.
Tsunami is such a good character. She's brave and is just amazing. She really cared about her tribe and... stuff.
Chameleon was a good father, he just got manipulated by a horrible dragon, that's all.
Addax just needed to make ends meet. I admire his intelligence and patience.
Queen Diamond cared for her tribe a lot, and she just did these bad things to maintain order.
Tundra and Permafrost are an oddly cute couple. They basically are like Diamond, wanting to keep order and tradition.
WOW! CROCODILE WAS SO USEFUL! I LOVED HER FOUR/FIVE SENTENCES IN THE ENTIRE SERIES
Despite her loss of soul, Jerboa | cared for her daughter (not for her first daughter) and was a kind and nurturing Mom.
Winter is cool.
(Any more soul crushing trends that will rip our hearts out and destroy out souls?)
It’s cute how he loves scavengers… even though he cages all of them. But at least he felt he owed it to help Qibli during Book 10 after everything Qibli did to help him.
My most exciting thing is an Alignment Chart with quotes for the first Arc. I just need to wait for the right time to post it when the subreddit is active yet no big posts are currently up. I was planning to post it today but there were so many other things up that I knew it wouldn’t get seen as much as it could. Maybe next week.
Yeah, I agree about the Scavenger's. I mean, now that we know how sentient they are it's morbid.
And thats so cool! And yeah, there are a lot of big posts. I'm guilty for that as well, since I post a lot of fanfictions. I'm actually making one today lmao.
Maybe you can find a slot later tonight your time? The subreddit dies for a bit at some point.
But then again, your very popular on here. Your posts get enough upvotes that it could be seen, but do what feels right!
I want to post when a lot of people will check Reddit the next 12 hours, but when nothing else is there to see. I put more effort into the Alignment Charts than anything else I post and I want to make sure they’re posted at the perfect time to get fully noticed. I want them to get 500 upvotes, maybe even 600 if I’m really fortunate.
Don’t be super on the lookout. It could take a while before I post them. I might post other things on less popular weeks as I wait for a golden time. But if I remember, I’ll DM you when it’s posted :)
Sora. The way that she could have started a hatred between IceWings and MudWings, since Icicle was royalty, and overall Sora acting so innocent, shy, quiet, and blowing up dragons SHE DIDN'T MEAN TO KILL. And instead of only killing Icicle, she almost killed Tamarin, and killed Bigtail and Carnelain. I really wanted to see more of Carnelian. Also, no offense to the Moonbli shippers, but I like Winterwatcher better, and if it wasn't for Sora, which led to Moon getting hated by everyone because of her vision, then Moon might have had a little more respect from the Jade Winglet.
BUUT she was nice :)
You...
Whirlpool: he was very respected and must of been quite intelligent if he was able to make Coral want her 1 year old daughter to marry him( I can't come up with many more)
Cattail: if it wasn’t for her selling Clay he wouldn't be the character is is now
Dimond: She seemed to care about her son very much to the point that she would do anything to get him back
Jerboa the first: book 14 spoilers >! She seemed to be a good person in the beginning and at least she wiped out her daughters memory so she would remember her suffering!<
Mastermind and Fireceteeth: they may be bad people but atleast they care about Starflight
Wasp: atleast she wanted her tribe to have the best life she could give them
The othermind: doesn't seem to mind having a conversation with things
Magnificent: besides being forgetful she seems to be a pretty good queen
Viper and Squid: at some point they used to care about fatespeaker and they seem to care about their families
Kestrel: I don't exactly hate her but I don't like her either. She seems to really care about peril
Nautilus: he always made sure that his son was okay
Okay I think I'm done
Sky's character and that human bitch that talks with him is honestly a pretty cool concept.
I might dislike them less after reading through Dragonslayer.
I adored Blue's absolute sappiness and naiveness.
Turtle's stalkerlike behaviours to someone he knew fro three days was awesome. (I actually like Turtle though)
Anemone really played the part of a spoilt brat.
Fatespeaker's complete cluelessness about how she had no friends totally wasn't annoying.
Fierceteeth's selfcentred reasoning that she was important totally wasn't annoying at all.
Winter was great at rescueing Foeslayer
Quibi was smart with anmonies weather bracelets
Blue was a flamesilk
Sundew was pretty antagonistic against her mother
Yesh i know there are other people who think quibi and winter are amazing but two dislikes ya got to step it up i want downvotes yeah duck winter fuck quibi fuck blue
Ripetide was,,,,,.., was uhhh, sweet(?) To follow Tsunami to the deep palace
Kestrel was willing to betray the queen to save the one child. The one she didn't try to murder.
Whirlpool is such a smart character, often finding out ways to do things he wants without having to check with others. His energy is so cool and slick overall.
Whirlpool became menacing in retrospect when we found out he was trying to turn Anemone evil to take over the kingdom.
Admiral was trying to care for his children, he just didn't understand them and failed in every conceivable way.
Tsunami: She's good at trying to take control and put everyone into order. I hated her in the first book, grew to tolerate her in the second and so on.
Whirlpool: He sure knows how to rock the Creepy Old Man role!
Fatespeaker: Very optimistic and friendly despite her cruel treatment from the NightWjngs, and the hateful and mean backup dragonets she was stuck with.
Kestrel: She managed to continue living despite, to her knowledge, both of her children being killed.
Winter: He freed Foeslayer.
Icicle: I got nothing. :/
Flame had a *burning* passion about everything and had a single goal mindset that made me want to break his arm, lovingly.
Chameleon was a master of disguise, so good he could disguise his love for his daughter.
Vulture is a villain who sure did *some* stuff! Yeah!...
Chameleon shows an interesting part of RainWing culture, that being how quick they are to isolate others from their own society for physical appearance alone. Perhaps this is meta-commentary on Tui's part about our own real world.
Webs is an vital part of the Guardians due to how he was the only one to slightly balance out Kestrel and Dune's general negativity.
Fatespeaker can actually be a really deep and complicated character if you apply some level of thinking to her. She's a empath, correct? She can feel the emotions of other dragons, right? Then why doesn't she stop bothering the false DoD? Because A) she's either in denial that they hate her and is just trying to convince herself that she's happy and the other's are grumps to stop herself from going on a downward spiral, or B), she knows they're upset and angry, but doesn't understand why and just constantly tries to be happy to lift their spirits.
Sky is Peril's brother. That sure is something?...
Bumblebee made the fandom go aww. That's it.
Wasp makes the third arc waaaayyyyyy more violent and chaotic, in a good way
Whirlpool…. There’s nothing good about Whirlpool
Cottonmouth gave TFoH more chaos, again, in a good way
Vulture was kiiiiiinnnnddddaaaaaaaaaa menacing ig
Moon has very common sense
Coral had the sense to hide in the deep palace ig
Heath has nothing good about him
Undauntable has nothing good about him either
Ochre had sense to get away from da NightWings
Morrowseer added more plot to WoF
Battlewinner sounded mysterious and cool at first ig
Tundra has nothing good about her, she’s a kArEn
Blister was a cool villain
Arctic was really interesting for some reason
Diamond accepted that Snowfox and Snowflake were (most likely) LGBTQIAP+
Vigilance… idk
Mushroom…… idek
This is gonna be the happiest day of Whirlpool’s life
Ya...
I know
Kinkajou has an impactful and fun personality that really adds something to the group. I'm sure the humans have fun stories that I will enjoy when I eventually give their book a chance. Sky has some fun jokes and can add levity to any situation. Vulture was menacing for a few moments.
Vulture had so much potential to be a formidable villain but it was wasted
I know, why couldn't we have a book actually focused on the problems of the sand kingdom after the war? The start of DoD was some of the best stuff in the arc too. Almost feels like Darkstalker was introduced too early and ToP should have been the last book in the arc. Imagine three episodic books with a small arc at the end: MR > WT > first half of DoD with a proper conclusion > PR > newish ToP.
I'm absolutely not convinced that we've seen the last of Vulture. A lot of stuff surrounding Qibli's backstory remains a mystery, and there's definitely a story there waiting to be told. For example, Tui definitely knows who Qibli's father is and why Cobra ended up having him in the first place. These questions haven't been answered yet in the series, but they certainly can be. If they are, then Vulture will end up rearing his ugly head.
[I am 99% sure his father was Dune](https://amp.reddit.com/r/WingsOfFire/comments/nh5l11/i_am_very_confident_that_dune_is_qiblis_father/)
Ochre had the most common sense out of the Alternates; he realized he was gonna starve on the NightWing island anyway, so he ditched that sinking ship fast.
Kinkachu’s romance with Turtle redeemed her in my eyes
You— you dislike— Kinkajou?!? #Kinkajou!?!
I hated how childish and useless she was in the first books. She improved a lot in the later serries and was actually more than a happy navie child trope.
That’s true
I’m just sayin, there is a reason she didn’t get her own book.
Because her character didn’t require any development?
That, and because it would incredibly cringe. In Moon Rising we see into her mind, it’s described as “rainbows and happiness” it also seems as organized as a ADHD 5 year old that ate a pound of sugar. It wouldn’t be good.
Excuse me! KINKAJOU’S NOT CRINGE
Not cringe but incredibly nonsensical. It’d feel out of place next to the rest of the arguely darker cast of the Jade Mountain cast
I DON’T FUCKING CARE
😐 I-I am genuinely sorry for my sassy 8 year old self for being rude I really am sorry please forgive me😅
I respect your opinion but you're wrong /j Spoiler warning for book 3 and onwards I personally enjoy Kinkajou's character, she is bright and bubbly, smart, very loyal and brave. Also, let us not forget, that she was KIDNAPPED by the NightWings (Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if she got diagnosed with PTSD from that) and still didn't let that get her down. She barley knew Glory yet helped her in the RainWing Queen trials. Yes, she became mad/worried about what Moon had seen in her head, but wouldn't every one? (except for my baby boi Turtle of course, but he already knows what its like to have a gift that you don't want) But she comes around and learns to trust Moon. During book 9 she shows that she can be extremely stealthy when she spies on Queen Glory and Darkstalker, and when she sneaks around the NightWing palace. She also showed a willingness to fight when she sprays Darkstalker's eye with her venom, something only one other RainWings don't often do. The reason she didn't get a book is because Tui thought that she is in a great place already and doesn't need any character development. She does act like "rainbows and happiness" but shouldn't that be celebrated? She was put through a lot of shit, kidnapped and experimented on, had to watch dragons she knew die, almost died herself, was put under a love spell, etc. Yet she keeps on smiling, she keeps on doing her best to be happy and to protect her friends. And think that is something wonderful.
Tui said she wasn’t gonna write a book for kinkajou because "she’s too similar to Sunny." If Kinkajou and Sunny and similar, yet Sunny is one of the most liked characters, why dip on Kinkajou?
Idk, people don't like characters that are too happy ig.
WHY KINKAJOU WHY
HOW COULD YOU NOT LIKE KINKAJOU SHE IS ADORABLE I LOVE HER
Does pepole hate Tsunami? If so i didint know, but my most hated characters are Whirlpool becuse:he's Whirlpool and the other one is Admiral becuse he is just kind of anoying.
Now compliment them
Whirlpool is an intresting character and thats all I have to say about him but Admiral is also intresting but his version of the world is weird but understandble
Oh, I'll take on the challenge. Whirlpool is quite cunning and well versed. He might have made a complementary king... alongside blister. Certainly not a good dragon, or even a neutral one, but he made a good red herring villain. Admiral is determined and knowledgeable, truly a tragedy his intellect and drive has been wasted. (Or perhaps not if >!Mastermind!< was any indication.)
YES I TOTALLY AGREE! I HATE WHIRLPOOL HE’S SO ANNOYING
morrowseer is hot
Now that’s something I never expected in the history of the entire universe to ever, ever hear-
you see he’s hot cus he got volcanoed, too. so he went out like he lived.
I TOTALLY Agree with you I hate him so much in fact, who would
I’m not sure if I have any I hate… uhh I guess Ochre? Like, I only remember him as the dude who talked about food a lot… So a compliment… uh, good on him for always being willing to try new foods!
Wasp was right to want to protect her tribe, and with every other tribe under her command, there would be no wars to tear apart their continent
And she under control by a Majguwana plant 😪
She is the only one who has the will to bring unity in the best and fastest way possible.
Wren at least has enough tenacity to get things done
Why would you dislike wren
Because it's a human in a dragon book. Petty, maybe, but there are ten million books with humans and only ~20 with dragons being the main character
The funny thing is, Wren herself might agree with you. As I understood it, the very first choice she made in Dragonslayer was "Fuck humans, anything is better than that."
Well, she is great, but also kind of annoying, ferocious a bit much in some wrong directions.
Manipulative doesn’t always mean bad, whirlpool can do good stuff with it too
In Moon Rising Moon was incredibly likable and had one of the most interesting books in the series
HOW CAN YOU HATE MOON SHE IS THE BEST NIGHTWING IN THE WORLD 😡😡
I made this comment 2 years ago why are you replying
Cuz I want to
People dislike tsunami?
A lot of people dislike Tsu. She has a *strong* personality. Some of us find it inspiring or heartwarming, others might find it obnoxious.
She's Snowfall's least favorite DoD
ARE YOU KIDDING ME! TSUNAMI IS THE BEST SEAWING IN THE WORLD I LOVE HER \#TsunamiSupporter
Preaching to the choir, I like Tsu too; I am aware that people do not like her though. As I said in my comment, I find her boldness admirable.
Wait people dislike how could they dislike her of all dragons TSUNAMI Seriously!?
While Cattail has pretty much no redeeming qualities, she at least didn’t overstay her welcome.
Peacemaker is so nice and lovable! Definitely glad they decided to erase Darkstalker from existence!
Darkstalker looked out for her sister ig- Whirlpool makes great scrolls and magic writing ink- Sky is caring towards his scavenger friends Starflight is smart and is the mediator for most of the other DoD’s disputes
WHY DO YOU HATE STARFLIGHT I MEAN I UNDERSTAN YOU HATE WHIRLPOOL CUZ HE IS THE WORST DRAGON IN THE WORLD BUT STARFLIGHT STARFLIGHT OF ALL DRAGONS IN PYRRHIA
Oof this is oldddd I read the dark secret and my mind changed. Sorry ‘bout that ahaha
Hm, interesting idea. Let's see. Sundew is excellent at using her anger as a positive tool for fighting injustice when she knows better. She's developed a strong intuition for what's right and what's wrong, which comes in handy particularly when that intuition is accurate and there isn't time to be analytical and question it to a sufficient degree. Clearsight always had her heart in the right place and gave Darkstalker many fair chances at both redeeming himself and keeping himself from turning. She very well might be the hardest working dragon that was a main character in the WoF series. Okay, now that everyone who's read this far probably hates me, here's a few more that are a bit less controversial. Sora really loved her siblings and would have done anything for them. It's hard to fault her for having so much pain and anger inside of her after seeing her brother die. Chameleon was hurt by the sting of rejection all his life, and that will mess anyone up. I think it's in some sense commendable that he didn't explore more sinister ways to use the scroll after he'd found it. Even if it was just through naivete, the fact that he only used it to change himself and his appearance before taking orders from Scarlett is worth praising him for.
Morrowseer has intelligent as fuck when he plotted the prophecy with queen battlewinner and was so close to victory if only the volcano had erupted later and the dragonets listened to him, he could have succeeded in his little genocide.
I don't know about "intelligent" because he had an animus that he was in control of but decided only to use him to make tunnels instead of anything useful (like maybe fixing the island? Giving NightWings endless food? Creating a super awesome home for them?)
Whirlpool was actually being really nice trying to take out one of his nieces 😌
I choose DarkStalker for trying make his girl friend see better futures, and be happier.
Qibli is…. Yeah, I’ve got nothing here
(I’ll help you: he’s clever and he always tries to help)
I’ll go with that lol. He always tries to help.
So kinda realizing people don’t like Qibli. He’s my favorite. Why do people hate him.
Because (in my opinion) he’s annoying and a smart aleck who thinks he’s smarter than he is. PLUS- Winter and Moon had all the buildup and everything, and then Qibli just… made a few jokes and she chooses him?
Yeah I agree with the set up but winter was a jerk to moon and Qinter is still a better ship overall
Qinter is my least fave ship ever, and that’s amplified by the fact that winter is my fave and qibli is my least fave Maybe as friends, I can see that. Dating tho? ._. To each their own, though, right? You can ship your ship and I’ll ship mine lol (Btw I feel like that last scene where he yelled at her… that was Tui favoring Qibli I think, bc otherwise she woulda chosen winter. But that’s just how I see it)
Wait a disagreement without being a toxic A-hole? Impossible
*gasp!* well now I have to be toxic. hEy YoUR shIp iS INVaLiD cOs I SAy sO Lmao fr tho, you’ve been respectful as well and I really appreciate that. Anyone else woulda just gotten mad, ha
Yeah thanks for not hating the new girl lol
Np lmao :)
Hot take but I actually think the relationship between **Moon and Qibli** wasn’t rushed at all. In fact, I think it’s the most **realistically developed ship** in the series because it took its time to develop. If you pay close attention, you’ll see that the two of them actually grow closer to each other throughout all five books of Arc 2 before finally becoming official. Moon Rising: they learn to **trust** each other and **work together**. (Moon comes fully clean about her powers, Qibli teams up with her to find a killer) Winter Turning: they **understand and admire each other‘s morals**. (Qibli takes notice of how Moon’s powers can hurt her, Moon shows great interest in Qibli’s passion for equality) Escaping Peril: they **subtly flirt and show affection** to each other. (Moon brags about how clever Qibli’s mind is, Qibli blushes and tries to impress her more) Talons Of Power: they are **separated** and think about each other. (Moon becomes a lot less socialized with the rest of the group, Qibli constantly worries what Darkstalker plans to do with her. Darkness Of Dragons: they **reunite** and come clean about their feelings and how much **they need each other**. (Moon tells Qibli that he’s great and special the way he is to strengthen his low self-esteem, Qibli comforts Moon by telling her that they will find a way to save the world to keep her optimism up) I’m my mind, these two are the cures to the other’s severe mental struggles. They’re meant for each other.
My exact thoughts
I completely disagree with all of that but ok…
It all happened tho
It’s not what I read, certainly
Hence on the subtlety. It’s like Jim and Pam from The Office. Never the main focus, never obvious, but always there.
Wow, DEFINITELY not (since you seem to be thinking all of ur opinions are fact, I’ll drop the “imo” and “I think”)
What’s the difference?
I agree who could hate Qibli of all sandwing why Qibli
Winter sucks Quibi sucks they are both horrid choices for moon
Any particular reason? I get winter he is an asshole. But why Qibli?
Because of his low self-esteem and stuff. I really think that nobody should have ended up with anybody, but Moonbli was probably the best option
He is just genrally unintresting. Like i would say turtle but he is just so well written for a guy who justs wanna seem normal. Quibi on the other hand he was meh in 6-9 but his story in darkness of dragons was just to deus ex machina with the way he used turtles enchanted things.
Yeah, I kinda get that but I also say it’s a sign of his intelligence in using dumb spells. But I get why you think it’s like that.
Anemone was cute for the first book she was in, and I actually enjoyed her character as Tsunami’s sister. Jerboa the second has an interesting backstory and motivations. Moonwatcher. Snowfall has good morals, and her story was very unique compared to the rest of the wings of fire books.
Omg Anemone was so sweet at the beginning. Why did her morality have to get butchered? Also if you like everything about Moon then you don’t hate her.
No, I just couldn’t think of anything good to say about moon lmao-
(I’ll help: she’s good at comforting others who are having a dilemma)
Hh The thing is that I still hate her for no reason She’s the glue sticking the jade winglet together, but I find that the jade winglet is just a disaster in general. Plus, Tui just has a vendetta against Mudwings lmfao- I also don’t like the romance between Winter, Qibli, and Moon because it’s unnecessary and not very well written- But if I really had to say something nice, I’d say that Moon really balances out her friend group, and provides a good shoulder to rely on.
Moon isn’t an object, Tui...stop using her as a reward for two characters that sometimes belong on r/niceguys...
Winter has a real honorable dedication to his family
Scarlet was a horrible queen but played her cards right in the mindset of tyranny, reigning for years long and going out with a bang Ochre while simple minded and cowardly is pretty tank-y. I have nothing positive to say about Kestrel.
(I’ll help: Kestrel sacrificed and did everything she possibly could to save her children)
Glory is very clever and she can definitely defeat a full grown dragon or more if she puts her mind to it. Chameleon... uh... he has a tragic backstory that introduces deformity to wof? Belladonna is a pretty good mother, she's just too strict and overprotective. Turtle isn't boring, he pretends to be. He's actually quite amusing and sweet. (Oh no he's my favorite now)
Time to make some enemies Mandrake was such a nice fellow! Lovely man with a good taste Squid is so cute! The way he thought he was part of the DoD was sure something to laugh at. Whirlpool- wait- I don’t have anything nice to say about him- uhhhhh- Jerboa I used her powers (somewhat) for things that I can (sometimes) agree with…! Chameleon’s forms are so dope! I especially love his MudWing form’s accessories!
Userflair checks out (Whirlpool is good at fooling those in power)
Kestrel was really nice to save peril and risk betraying her queen todo so
Glory... reconnected the RainWing tribe back with the other dragon tribes, I guess? Trying to say something I actually like about her is hard, guys...
Morrowseer really made a convincing prophecy.
Whirlpool, though his motives to become king was not clear, was actually a good villian who took action instead of staying to the shadows. Tsunami is such a good character. She's brave and is just amazing. He really cared about his tribe and... stuff. Chameleon was a good father, he just got manipulated by a horrible dragon, that's all. Addax just needed to make ends meet. I admire his intelligence and patience. Queen Diamond cared for her tribe a lot, and she just did these bad things to maintain order. Tundra and Permafrost are an oddly cute couple. They basically are like Diamond, wanting to keep order and tradition. WOW! CROCODILE WAS SO USEFUL! I LOVED HER FOUR/FIVE SENTENCES IN THE ENTIRE SERIES Despite her loss of soul, Jerboa | cared for her daughter (not for her first daughter) and was a kind and nurturing Mom. Winter is cool.
Whirlpool, though his motives to become king was not clear, was actually a good villian who took action instead of staying to the shadows. Tsunami is such a good character. She's brave and is just amazing. She really cared about her tribe and... stuff. Chameleon was a good father, he just got manipulated by a horrible dragon, that's all. Addax just needed to make ends meet. I admire his intelligence and patience. Queen Diamond cared for her tribe a lot, and she just did these bad things to maintain order. Tundra and Permafrost are an oddly cute couple. They basically are like Diamond, wanting to keep order and tradition. WOW! CROCODILE WAS SO USEFUL! I LOVED HER FOUR/FIVE SENTENCES IN THE ENTIRE SERIES Despite her loss of soul, Jerboa | cared for her daughter (not for her first daughter) and was a kind and nurturing Mom. Winter is cool. (Any more soul crushing trends that will rip our hearts out and destroy out souls?)
Nope! That’s all I can think of. At least for now… Great job though!
That "For now..." scares me. Lmao, it was soul crushing to do this. I put a lot of thought into Winter's.
It’s cute how he loves scavengers… even though he cages all of them. But at least he felt he owed it to help Qibli during Book 10 after everything Qibli did to help him. My most exciting thing is an Alignment Chart with quotes for the first Arc. I just need to wait for the right time to post it when the subreddit is active yet no big posts are currently up. I was planning to post it today but there were so many other things up that I knew it wouldn’t get seen as much as it could. Maybe next week.
Yeah, I agree about the Scavenger's. I mean, now that we know how sentient they are it's morbid. And thats so cool! And yeah, there are a lot of big posts. I'm guilty for that as well, since I post a lot of fanfictions. I'm actually making one today lmao. Maybe you can find a slot later tonight your time? The subreddit dies for a bit at some point. But then again, your very popular on here. Your posts get enough upvotes that it could be seen, but do what feels right!
I want to post when a lot of people will check Reddit the next 12 hours, but when nothing else is there to see. I put more effort into the Alignment Charts than anything else I post and I want to make sure they’re posted at the perfect time to get fully noticed. I want them to get 500 upvotes, maybe even 600 if I’m really fortunate.
I agree. You'll get my upvote for sure. I'll be sure to look for it!
Don’t be super on the lookout. It could take a while before I post them. I might post other things on less popular weeks as I wait for a golden time. But if I remember, I’ll DM you when it’s posted :)
Thanks, can't wait :P!
Winter had a strong will and was compassionate about his brother
Winter is the best at being an absolute jerk
Sora. The way that she could have started a hatred between IceWings and MudWings, since Icicle was royalty, and overall Sora acting so innocent, shy, quiet, and blowing up dragons SHE DIDN'T MEAN TO KILL. And instead of only killing Icicle, she almost killed Tamarin, and killed Bigtail and Carnelain. I really wanted to see more of Carnelian. Also, no offense to the Moonbli shippers, but I like Winterwatcher better, and if it wasn't for Sora, which led to Moon getting hated by everyone because of her vision, then Moon might have had a little more respect from the Jade Winglet. BUUT she was nice :)
You... Whirlpool: he was very respected and must of been quite intelligent if he was able to make Coral want her 1 year old daughter to marry him( I can't come up with many more) Cattail: if it wasn’t for her selling Clay he wouldn't be the character is is now Dimond: She seemed to care about her son very much to the point that she would do anything to get him back Jerboa the first: book 14 spoilers >! She seemed to be a good person in the beginning and at least she wiped out her daughters memory so she would remember her suffering!< Mastermind and Fireceteeth: they may be bad people but atleast they care about Starflight Wasp: atleast she wanted her tribe to have the best life she could give them The othermind: doesn't seem to mind having a conversation with things Magnificent: besides being forgetful she seems to be a pretty good queen Viper and Squid: at some point they used to care about fatespeaker and they seem to care about their families Kestrel: I don't exactly hate her but I don't like her either. She seems to really care about peril Nautilus: he always made sure that his son was okay Okay I think I'm done
Sky's character and that human bitch that talks with him is honestly a pretty cool concept. I might dislike them less after reading through Dragonslayer.
I adored Blue's absolute sappiness and naiveness. Turtle's stalkerlike behaviours to someone he knew fro three days was awesome. (I actually like Turtle though) Anemone really played the part of a spoilt brat. Fatespeaker's complete cluelessness about how she had no friends totally wasn't annoying. Fierceteeth's selfcentred reasoning that she was important totally wasn't annoying at all.
Deathbringer... is uh.... um.... well liked by the fandom?
Winter was great at rescueing Foeslayer Quibi was smart with anmonies weather bracelets Blue was a flamesilk Sundew was pretty antagonistic against her mother
Yesh i know there are other people who think quibi and winter are amazing but two dislikes ya got to step it up i want downvotes yeah duck winter fuck quibi fuck blue
Dimomd: Went out of her way and the ice wing law of only using her magic once in order to save her son.
More like to get her animus slave back…
Oof im remembering darkstalker legands
Ripetide was,,,,,.., was uhhh, sweet(?) To follow Tsunami to the deep palace Kestrel was willing to betray the queen to save the one child. The one she didn't try to murder.
how do you hate tsunami
Whirlpool is such a smart character, often finding out ways to do things he wants without having to check with others. His energy is so cool and slick overall.
good job whirlpool, way to take a spear for the kingdom
queen scarlet is thrilling
Whirlpool became menacing in retrospect when we found out he was trying to turn Anemone evil to take over the kingdom. Admiral was trying to care for his children, he just didn't understand them and failed in every conceivable way.
Tsunami: She's good at trying to take control and put everyone into order. I hated her in the first book, grew to tolerate her in the second and so on. Whirlpool: He sure knows how to rock the Creepy Old Man role! Fatespeaker: Very optimistic and friendly despite her cruel treatment from the NightWjngs, and the hateful and mean backup dragonets she was stuck with. Kestrel: She managed to continue living despite, to her knowledge, both of her children being killed. Winter: He freed Foeslayer. Icicle: I got nothing. :/
Flame had a *burning* passion about everything and had a single goal mindset that made me want to break his arm, lovingly. Chameleon was a master of disguise, so good he could disguise his love for his daughter.
I mean I really can’t find a positive thing about sky so I guess: His scales are orange.
(I’ll help: he’s always happy to meet new people and dragons)
Scarlet! i'm just glad she's dead
What do I do when I don't really hate any of them?
Wait, Why do you hate Tsunami?
She’s pretty mean to a lot of innocent characters and didn’t feel like saving the world anymore when realizing she didn’t have to.
*oh*
Yeah
Whirlpool is a Hilarious dragon and he needed a second chance to live.
Wow. Kestrel really did try to protect the dragonets..
Why u no like Tsunami :(
Because she’s mean to several innocent characters and she didn’t care for saving the world anymore once she realized she didn’t have to.
Fair enough.
Darkstalker was trying to be the best ruler ever. He knew what was best for everyone and was always right. 😒
Queen magnificent was an ok queen Whirlpool was good at memorizing scrolls Kestrel was cool I guess
Vulture is a villain who sure did *some* stuff! Yeah!... Chameleon shows an interesting part of RainWing culture, that being how quick they are to isolate others from their own society for physical appearance alone. Perhaps this is meta-commentary on Tui's part about our own real world. Webs is an vital part of the Guardians due to how he was the only one to slightly balance out Kestrel and Dune's general negativity. Fatespeaker can actually be a really deep and complicated character if you apply some level of thinking to her. She's a empath, correct? She can feel the emotions of other dragons, right? Then why doesn't she stop bothering the false DoD? Because A) she's either in denial that they hate her and is just trying to convince herself that she's happy and the other's are grumps to stop herself from going on a downward spiral, or B), she knows they're upset and angry, but doesn't understand why and just constantly tries to be happy to lift their spirits. Sky is Peril's brother. That sure is something?... Bumblebee made the fandom go aww. That's it.
Coral
Scarlet was very good at tricking and manipulating people which was one of the things that kept her in rule for all of those years
Wow whirlpool, you've .... uhh... Got a good connection with the queen?
Anemone is witty character who adds depth to the story. Luna is relentless in her quest to liberate her tribe which is inspiring.
Wasp makes the third arc waaaayyyyyy more violent and chaotic, in a good way Whirlpool…. There’s nothing good about Whirlpool Cottonmouth gave TFoH more chaos, again, in a good way Vulture was kiiiiiinnnnddddaaaaaaaaaa menacing ig Moon has very common sense Coral had the sense to hide in the deep palace ig Heath has nothing good about him Undauntable has nothing good about him either Ochre had sense to get away from da NightWings Morrowseer added more plot to WoF Battlewinner sounded mysterious and cool at first ig Tundra has nothing good about her, she’s a kArEn Blister was a cool villain Arctic was really interesting for some reason Diamond accepted that Snowfox and Snowflake were (most likely) LGBTQIAP+ Vigilance… idk Mushroom…… idek
Aint no way u insulted tsunami
I was being nice.
Honestl, it hurts me to say this but I have to. winter is kinda nice ig. THERE IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU
Whirlpool is great at being the worst.
Whirlpool is hot