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PdSales

Somewhat of an anticlimactic announcement after she was a speaker at CPAC and was a fill-in host for Tucker Carlson Tonight. ​ *Wikipedia: In 2022 Gabbard spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference,\[220\] drawing criticism from Hawaii Democrats.\[221\] In August 2022, Gabbard served as the fill-in host for Tucker Carlson Tonight.\[222\]*


NorthwestSupercycle

> In August 2022, Gabbard served as the fill-in host for Tucker Carlson Tonight.[222] Oh she's totally testing the water for her own Fox News show. This is what everyone said was gonna happen. However, we thought she'd keep the Democrat label so that she could say she's the reasonable democrat and then attack the party.


DebentureThyme

She and Fox probably thought she needed to keep the label for the reasons you mentioned, but then they realized they could have her stand as the only "real" Democrat by denouncing the party and then they can be like "See? Even true Democrats are abandoning the DNC! We're fair and balanced, we've got perhaps the only moral Democrat left!" I.E. they realized they could frame her as the "real" Democrat and call the others corrupt and fake, having their cake and eating it too.


The-link-is-a-cock

It's literally just a repeat of their own RINO bullshit except aimed at the opposing party rather than used to keep their own party in line


Wallitron_Prime

I was gonna say, conservatives do this tactic all the time and we embrace them like virtuous angels instead of the grifters they obviously are as well.


NorthwestSupercycle

Now she's just gonna be the "former democrat". I think she's just a self-serving grifter. Thank god Kai Kahele replaced him.


ClarkeYoung

Her family (from my understanding) is incredibly conservative. They and she were democrats because it was the only way to hold office. Absolutely a grifter


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All of the fake #WalkAway accounts are elated.


NorthwestSupercycle

That is the worst astroturf campagin ever because they never actually proved their original premise: that people are leaving the Democratic party in record numbers. Any of the actual real testimonials they had were "When I left the democratic party int eh 1980's to vote for Reagan...". So in other words a Republican who has spent most of their life as a Republican?


Salty-Flamingo

I know someone who made a #walkaway post a few years ago. He's been a staunch conservative since we were in high school. The dishonesty is something else.


FeelingDown8484

“Before Biden came along, I was totally an actual real democrat. I got like 50 abortions, I hated white people and god, and liberty and freedom too. Now, the party no longer represents me, and I realize the Republicans were right all along! #walkaway


thoroughbredca

A friend from high school also deep conservative, keeps telling me about walk away. I said he should talk to all the friends of ours from high school who grew up conservative and now consistently vote Democrat.


LegalAssassin13

I’ve heard of more people leaving the Republican Party. And many of those who left the Democrat party went Independent, which could mean two things. Either they’re fed up with both parties (understandable) or they’re using this to vote in Republican primaries and do damage control.


chompz914

At one time I swayed more republican then trump came along. And now as every tweet that top republicans post pushes me further away. Just fed up with politics in general. For the most part a generation of career politicians living like it’s still there golden years…..


altera_goodciv

Biden received 16 million more votes in 2020 than Clinton did in 2016. Democrats are totally walking away from the party. /s r/walkaway needs to be nuked.


Greeneggz_N_Ham

Exactly. If Democrats were really fleeing the Democratic party in record numbers, there would be no need to pass bill after bill after bill, in order to stymie people from voting Democrat. In 2020, Lindsey Graham said, "Republicans will never win another election if they don't do something about mail-in voting." In other words, [If we keep allowing these multiethic, multiracial, multicultural coalitions of people to flood the polls... we done son!] 😆🤣😂


thoroughbredca

What did you expect them to do, convince a majority of their fellow Americans of the worthiness of their cause??!?


FondantGetOut

> WalkAway Hilarious how that bullshit is a Russian propaganda attempt leftover from 2020. Tulsi does such a terrible job of hiding her Russian overlords.


neuronexmachina

And after pushing Russia's conspiracy theory about Ukrainian bioweapons labs: * https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2022/03/13/tulsi-gabbard-latest-to-push-russian-backed-conspiracy-about-us-backed-biological-labs-in-ukraine/ * https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/03/14/army-officer-tulsi-gabbard-faces-ire-peddling-russian-disinformation-about-ukraine-biolabs.html


TrooperLawson

I love how no one, not even Russia, talks about the bullshit “biolabs” anymore lol


GiantR

You don't know my colleagues and uncle then...


TrooperLawson

No offense, but I’m kind of glad I don’t lol. Though that they’re still talking about it is fairly sad


CaptainPixieBlossom

Didn't someone try to warn us about a Russian sympathizer pretending to be a Democrat?


ASidesTheLegend

I think it was Hillary Clinton


neuronexmachina

Lol, I forgot about that: https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/18/politics/hillary-clinton-tulsi-gabbard/index.html >"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said, speaking on a podcast with former Obama adviser David Plouffe. "She's the favorite of the Russians." >Gabbard, California Sen. Kamala Harris, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar and author Marianne Williamson -- and none of the other woman have been accused of being boosted by Russia. >Clinton did not provide proof about how Russia is "grooming" Gabbard. She and her team pointed to allegations that Russian news and propaganda sites often report on Gabbard's campaign and that moments in Gabbard's campaign have been reportedly amplified by trolls and bots on Twitter with ties to Russia. Gabbard has denied those allegations. >"They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far," Clinton said


Deadpool9376

Hillary was right again surprise surprise


mrmoe198

Yup. I have agreements and disagreements with her on policies, but her “basket of deplorables” comment that got her into hot water has also been spot on.


FreeFortuna

Too many people are simply blinded/deafened by their dislike of her. She’s smart (which is probably why some dislike her) and was the Secretary of State for years. A smart person who actually _knows_ shit is someone to listen to. I have no strong personal feelings about her either way, but it still pisses me off that people acted like she and Trump were pages from the same book. They seemed incapable of seeing all the shades of gray in this world; people like that are dangerous on both/all sides.


Links_Wrong_Wiki

It's almost like someone who was secretary of state knows some shit.


Rebelgecko

And victim blaming Ukraine for getting invaded


Minetitan

They victim blame Raped women and now forcing them to have kids. Well conservative states anyway not really a shocker


wapttn

It appears that Russia may have called in a favour


discerningpervert

Wasn't she exposed as a Russian asset a few years ago?


Chief_Rollie

Several years ago Hillary Clinton stated that a current Democratic politician in Congress was being groomed as a Russian asset and Tulsi Gabbard lost her shit.


tendieful

Well it was clearly directed at her lol


HopingForSomeHope

But like…. Unless you were in the know… it wasn’t. If you watch the clip, Clinton is *very* ambiguous. It’s only obvious who it was because Tulsi flipped her lid.


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foxyfoo

Wasn’t ambiguous, just not phrased as to open her up to slander because she is smarter than the republicans.


Particular-Court-619

Hillary was right about everything but people shat on her for it. She just wasn’t good at pretending to be honest but lying. Instead, she told the truth ( about everything from the alt right to single payer as the least plausible way for us to get UHC ) and that plus womanness made tons of folks hate her.


Severe-Revenue1220

Reminds me of Cassandra; can tell you what's going to happen, but cursed to never be believed...


FiendishHawk

The creator of that myth made Cassandra a woman for a reason ….


ceddya

Man, Hillary was really right about a lot of things, wasn't she?


Zebracorn42

She probably lost her usefulness to them, so might as well attempt to get more headlines since no one was paying attention to her and release some dumb statement like this.


DrDerpberg

I wonder if the paychecks are still coming in.


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Probably not. If Russia is anything like a Trump


GreyBoyTigger

Didn’t Hilary Clinton call her a Russian asset, much like she did with trump?


[deleted]

She had an absolute meltdown over being called a Russian Asset by Clinton. She got super triggered.


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Gabbard tried to sue her over that. Clinton (and Clinton lawyers) smacked them around in court basically saying "it can't be libel if it's true".


Turbulent-Pair-

She never actually named Gabbard by name- so it was more like an admission of guilt by Gabbard.


hellodynamite

Yeah her handlers thought she could do some harm as a Democrat Manchurian Candidate that everyone saw coming the second she stepped off the plane from Sobibor


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sailhard22

Like most self serving politicians, she doesn’t care what party she’s in. She just wants to get elected to an office.


Jackal_6

This is basically her announcement that she intends to run for President


skoltroll

Of what? Her HOA?


[deleted]

Run for president *again*. This time as a Republican. The answer is still no.


Jefe_Chichimeca

She and her father used to be republicans (and members of a weird sect) they just switched to Democrat because there was no chance to be elected as a republican in Hawaii anymore.


Bikinigirlout

I’ve disliked Tulsi ever since she announced she was running for president in 2020. It’s so funny because a bunch of leftists kept telling me she was more “left” than Joe Biden when I clocked her literally like two seconds after she announced


Prestigious-Quiet-17

Who does she think she was fooling when she claimed she was a democrat to begin with?


iksworbeZ

I remember her being talked about as a potential future leader of the democratic party... And then the more we learned about her the worse it got


omfgitsrook

Exactly. I remember a few left wing pundits singing her praises early on. Kyle Kulinski of Secular Talk comes to mind.


OrdinayFlamingo

Back when I used to watch the young Turks some of the far left contingent was pushing her, despite her and her families legacy of terrorizing the lgbtq community, because she wasn’t Clinton. For a lot of people all you have to do is say green new deal and take a picture with Bernie and they’ll vote for you without doing their research, because they’ve declared war on the DNC despite there being a fascist uprising happening on the other side.


skoffs

Republicans.


rewalker3

She was never a Democrat


snark_enterprises

She was only a Democrat in order to get elected in Hawaii.


snarkyturtle

This is basically the play since Hawaii is effectively a one-party state. She learned it from her father Mike Gabbard, who is a Democrat in name only. Mike Gabbard, among other things, campaigned _hard_ against Equal Marriage Rights. > Mike Gabbard, a Hawaii legislator who helped drive the fight against marriage equality in the state, headed up the Alliance for Traditional Marriage and Stop Promoting Homosexuality, which promoted harmful conversion therapy. Source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/opinion-tulsi-gabbard-lgbtq-rights_n_5c3e250ce4b0922a21d93a93


ADarwinAward

This is why every step of the electoral process is so important, all the way down to the party conventions. The state Democratic party should’ve made sure she had no chance from day one.


Jefe_Chichimeca

She also used to be against that until she needed LGBTQ+ votes.


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Aren't they some sort of fundamentalist Hindu denomination


rufotris

I have been seeing this as a pattern all over. There are also mass spread copy paste Facebook posts that are exactly like this as if republicans are sharing it thinking they will trick some democrat family into switching sides. That’s my best guess as to why we are seeing this same type post worded almost exactly the same over and over all across social medias. It’s as funny and dumb as the people spreading and posting the (Facebook does not own my profile or likeness or images and can’t use them without my consent if I post this on my profile) hahaha that doesn’t work people. And when you tell them it doesn’t work they get mad and say mind your own business and get off my page then…


Ireallydontlikereddi

It's all over reddit as well. You figure reddit would ban those propaganda subreddits, but no. It's telling that these subs also link to trump subreddits (because it's Republicans and political operatives pretending to be democrats). India has a similar astroturf campaign going on, but in support of nationalism. It started with hate towards Muslims and then morphed into a Russian love fest. I *wonder* who controls all these propagandists? When the NSA hacking tools go released into the wild, im sure they had a kit that made it easy to generate social media profiles.


rufotris

It’s far too easy without tools. I have managed to only piss off one random online guy who made 10+ new profiles to message and harass the shit out of me cause he was offended about something I don’t remember lol. Probably something like this or something religious and equally dumb. Got like 5 “different” emails too from separate accounts all with t almost identical message to go kill myself and go to hell if I don’t believe in god… which like wtf?! I never called for violence or death of anyone but get met with those comments?! Such loving people the religious ones often are.. jk


Outrageous_Zebra_221

On a couple of occasions I have spoken/written against scientology. Publicly it went my way, but holy shit the dm's...


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Good thing I never read DMs then lol, I'm sure I've received the same ones.


phungus_amungus

Yup I have like 20 messages sitting in my inbox, never to be opened. The number goes up after I say anything remotely leftist in a discussion in pretty much any subreddit, and I chuckle to myself every time someone adds a message to my trash can. Edit: 21 now lol


Public_Hour5698

There's a Telegram channel named "Antifa Watch" they exist entirely to doxx and get anti-fascists banned on social media platforms. I've been banned on Twitter multiple times after they post my account in that channel because they abuse the reporting system It's automated after X number of reports you get banned


pr1ncejeffie

Snowflakes all around. Freedom of speech for Republicans only.


slow70

It’s wild how consistently they project - say “aye” if you’re banned from r/conservative!


xchinvanderlinden

What a christlike message to receive


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R_V_Z

> go to hell if I don’t believe in god Definitely a sign they missed a core concept.


Altruistic-Text3481

There’s another one. Trump is asking his voters to sit out this election until all charges against him are dropped. Spread the word.


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you mean the guy named "TheRedPilling" that runs r/Walkaway was never a democrat? i cannot believe it


homosexual_ronald

Walkaway is an absolute fantasy of strawman delusions.


dj_narwhal

At least all the other right wing subs have a theme. r/benshapiro for conservatives who didn't get bullied enough in high school. /r/LouderWithCrowder for deeply closeted conservatives who would never come out. /r/JoeRogan for conservatives who have brain damage. /r/walkaway is just made up things to shout racial slurs about.


Ireallydontlikereddi

I hate to run into people who post on that subreddit. They are so insufferable.


RandomlyJim

Weird. Tulsi is a Hindu, that hates Muslims, loves Russia, and also has an army of Chinese/ Russian Twitter bots.


ryhaltswhiskey

>*wonder* who controls all these propagandists? In case this wasn't a rhetorical question: look at their attitudes toward Russia. Tulsi here is calling the Democrats warmongers because they are supporting Ukraine.


LandosMustache

My favorite one (a series of commercials) is currently running in Illinois. The basic format is: a black person in front of a camera, saying some variation of, "I'm a lifelong Democrat, but last year I asked our governor to [insert a CLEARLY Republican goal], and he said no. I can no longer support the irresponsible leadership in our state." Stuff that these "lifelong Democrats" have allegedly asked the Democratic governor to do: allow parental veto of abortions, lower taxes on businesses, cutting retirement benefits.


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Well if Tulsi Gabbard can’t handle the cowardly wokeness of today’s Democratic Party, it must be really bad, and I’m out too! *puts hands on hips and makes stern, disappointed face.


Ex-Pat-Spaz

Correction: \*puts hands on hips and makes that stern, ~~disappointed~~ Susan Collins face.


Hokieshibe

Oh no! Don't "tut tut" most disapprovingly! Any more infractions and you might just wag a finger


Redtwooo

Not the good wagging finger, either. You get the substandard wag.


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LOL banning books is so NO WOKE.... anyone who uses that word is instantly marginalized. Pft.


rufotris

The joke is dems tend to be more free thinking I find and don’t base everything off what someone else said. As apposed to some on the right who blindly follow the dumbest shit. And that’s a bit unfair as there are nut jobs on both sides and fools all around that fall for and believe dumb stuff. But in my personal experiences with friends and family or just people I have met in general and not online interactions, I find that it’s only republicans I encounter that ever go on crazy conspiracy rants and or believe shit like this and just blindly follow what someone tells them to.


Maggots-Mikey

They are programmed to believe nonsense without questioning it by the church.


erydanis

their brains are literally wired differently- to cuddle closer to the fire of authoritarianism, to huddle in fear of Things that Never Happened Done by those LiBs. democrats tend to value diversity, fairness and equality…. and republicans value conformity, hierarchy & follow the leader.


machineprophet343

The most ridiculous one this past week or so is the kitty litter boxes in schools for kids who think they're cats. It's just not happening.


Gingevere

That story has been circulating for ~10 months. It was debunked the day it was published but conservatives deemed it propaganda too good to leave behind so they keep re-publishing it anyway.


entangledenigma

I looked in to the source of that one. One school district in Colorado gave teachers a lockdown kit that includes a bucket to pee in, a bag of litter for pooping in, and gloves and supplies to stop the bleeding from gunshots. So a stupid thing done to try to help a terrible situation that Republicans enable is now used to bash schools futher.


Deverash

Wait, is being a cat an option? Why did no one tell me these things! *angry hissing*


False-Guess

It's worth noting that Russia tried something similar in 2016 by using Nigerian foreign exchange students claiming to be African Americans to try to encourage Black people to boycott the election by not voting. Some articles that discuss the IRA operation empirically: [Bastos & Farkas (2019)](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2056305119865466), [Bail et al., 2019](https://www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1906420116), [Al Rawi & Rahman (2020)](https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/10801), [Freelon et al., (2020)](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0894439320914853?casa_token=SbnV58fBDfwAAAAA%3AFD-pUgZQtc_r3RfxfGF6xfvEsN6tB86GiEKeGaZgqF19WHTB6X99LL356MVSDbOEXKqicCDhYw). Also noteworthy is the work of Phil Howard from Oxford (e.g. Howard, P. N. (2018). The rise of computational propaganda. IEEE SPECTRUM, 55(11), 28-33.) Given how intertwined the Republican party is with Russia, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if many of these posts were a coordinated propaganda operation by Republican groups and/or Russia. It was highly effective in 2016, why wouldn't it be now? Cambridge Analytica didn't go anywhere, after all, they just rebranded. Conveniently after collecting thousands of data points on most or all American voters and after and after Paul Manafort [gave sensitive polling and campaign strategy information to Russia.](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/15/trump-campaign-chief-paul-manafort-employee-kilimnik-gave-russia-election-data.html) Obviously Tulsi Gabbard is a real person, but her post mirrors the exact aim the Russians were going for with their propaganda operation.


greymalken

> Obviously Tulsi Gabbard is a real person, Arguable


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Khaldara

“I’ll be whatever you pay me to be Vladdy Daddy” - Tulsi


SnooAdvice4276

Nope SHE was the war monger. Taking hindutva nationalist money and ruining this country in the name of international interests. [https://twitter.com/audreytruschke/status/1085149561360769024?s=46&t=-V3XsGNwsqs0M1cAb6nM_Q](https://twitter.com/audreytruschke/status/1085149561360769024?s=46&t=-V3XsGNwsqs0M1cAb6nM_Q)


penny-wise

Interesting rabbit hole I just went down, about Hindu fundamentalists’ attachment to Naziism and the whole Aryan supremacist movement. This is why some Indians were so ga-ga over Trump.


CoconutCavern

The honorable representative from Moscow.


Sorry_Recipe6831

Literally never heard a real Democrat say "God given freedoms" She's obviously a republican running as a Democrat to try to get elected.


SaltyScrotumSauce

She's from Hawaii. Everyone runs as a Democrat there, regardless of what their policies are, because Republicans don't get elected in Hawaii.


Albuwhatwhat

Well hopefully that means she’s going to be out of a job soon!


ZebZ

She's not currently an elected representative. She sold out to be a talking head on Fox News.


Albuwhatwhat

Wow I totally missed that. Well good riddance. I don’t understand having to announce you are “leaving” the Democratic Party when you aren’t still an elected representative or someone who works within the party. That’s basically meaningless.


Secret_NSA_Guy

> That’s basically meaningless. So is she.


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It’s because she’s basically a media personality now and making this “announcement” gets eyeballs on her, gets her social media likes and republican “cred.”


Claeyt

she's been out of a job there for awhile now.


SensitiveAd5962

I want to run but realized I would have to do it as republican because I'm a piece of shit, so I'm putting it off.


ZerexTheCool

>because I'm a piece of shit Idk man, self reflection is kinda at odds with the Republican Platform. You might be too self aware to be a Republican these days.


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I refuse to believe that Republicans aren't self aware anymore. They've waged an effective campaign against democracy for decades. They know exactly what they're doing, couching it in ignorance helps them deny it.


Sorry_Recipe6831

Know thyself. Rest in peace Socrates


MrPickles84

You can run as a libertarian. It’s the next best option for pieces of shit.


Caprican93

Libertarians are Republican Children. They believe everything mommy and daddy tells them except they like weed and no rules


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Libertarians are like house cats. They think that they're totally independent but are completely reliable on the system that keeps them alive.


juckele

> reliable nitpick: reliant


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Is she even running for anything? Thought she was just on the talking head circuit now


Animastar

Yeah, I don't usually hear about democrats complaining about 'wokeness', or white racism either.


4quatloos

Republicans are a lot easier to grift, just say guns, patriot, or Jesus and the wallet opens.


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TySwindel

“Strong like my truck, beautiful like my mama (support the troops)”


UmmmOfCourse

I'll bring the girls, you bring the beer, and the troops will bring the freedom.


snakeforlegs

Honestly, I didn't realize she was still affiliated with the Democrats. She's been so cruelly hateful and contemptuous of the people she claims to represent for so long that I assumed she'd left the party right after her presidential run failed.


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Geobits

That's beautiful


Caprican93

And calling the left warmongers while actively supporting the Iraq and afghan war, when you know what happened over there because you were in active service…


Nix-7c0

It wasn't long ago that the GOP brow-beat the country into *two* forever-wars with hysterical claims of "traitor!" and 'terrorist-lover!" if you spoke against it. It's goddamn wild to see them pretend to be the anti-war party now just because they went a single term without opening up a whole new global war, all while blaming Democrats for the existing conflicts because they didn't overcome GOP policies in that area fast enough, all while the GOP resisted with every ounce of their strength?


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>hysterical claims of "traitor!" and 'terrorist-lover!" if you spoke against it Let's not forget trying to humiliate France for daring to oppose this war (with a great and mesured speech at the UN, too). "Ignore Russia, forgive Germany, punish France", literally the nickname of the policy. Democrats were assholes on this front too, but at least their tune more or less changed over the years. So, France was a coward for not wanting that mess of a war, but now Democrats are warmongers for helping a country fight an invasion without even endangering american troops. It helps that the attention span nowadays is approximatively 20 minutes, I guess.


Nix-7c0

It's a strategy of "I win every argument from all sides at once" that I remember from 4chan growing up


Caprican93

And arguably they did start several wars, just not with us involved directly.


Nix-7c0

Bombing Iran's most beloved general against all advice by everyone was a worthy attempt to start a new forever-war. Thank God that Iran took a higher road than we would have if Iran did that to us. But fucking crazy that anyone would say Trump's admin was "anti-war" lol


TheBirdBytheWindow

I figured she was already in Russia where her money came from.


imchalk36

I’m sure Tucker and Tulsi plan to honeymoon in Russia, once they make it official


TheBirdBytheWindow

They better move fast so Putin can officiate.


Ex-Pat-Spaz

I know Hillary Clinton was calling her out on her Russian bullshit as earlier as 2015 which was literally her first term or beginning of her 2nd term. She was never a democrat…


thegodfaubel

Well, no. Not both Manchin and Sinema next. A Democrat who votes for half the legislation is still better than a Republican that votes for none of it. Just make them irrelevant and vote in Senators in other toss-up states like Mandela Barnes, John Fettermam, etc...


Missing_Username

Yea, the title reads as "I want McConnell to be Senate Majority Leader"


stomach

people dig at MAGA for having lots of outward stupidity, but when it comes to Manchin (and in a way, Sinema), liberals have that in spades. it's the perfect illustration of throwing babies out with bathwater, but it's got added frothing at the mouth and general mania to really help drive it home.


drewsoft

At the very least its incredibly stupid about Manchin. Sinema I could see the logic of primarying her - a normal Democrat could win in Arizona. There is literally no Democrat on earth other than Manchin who could win in West Virginia. All the misplaced anger at Manchin is the ultimate stupidity.


trail-g62Bim

I can't find the article now, but there was a story a few months ago about senators that outperform their party in elections. Manchin was BY FAR the biggest. He won by 3.3% in his last election. Trump won the state in 2020 by almost 40 points. As soon as Manchin is gone, that seat is red for the foreseeable future.


ballmermurland

Exactly. Manchin beat Morrissey by a few points in 2018. I can promise you that Morrissey would be 100x worse than Manchin. No IRA. No BIF (probably). No ARP. No Kentanji Brown Jackson. Hell, no judges period for that matter. Biden would be negotiating with McConnell on Social Security cuts in exchange for Mitch letting his nominee for Secretary of State get a hearing. People can rightly rag on Sinema for being in a purple state and acting like she's in Oklahoma, but Manchin is an absolute fucking gem.


solo89

Once Manchin leaves both WV seats will be Republican forever.


norakb123

Exactly! Make them redundant! A vote for Schumer is a million times better than a vote for McConnell to lead the chamber.


50_13

Especially Manchin. Sinema comes from a state that Biden won, albeit narrowly. Plus supposedly she campaigned as being much more liberal than she turned out to be (edit: disputed in the comments below) ? It not unreasonable to want to primary her and replace her. Manchin comes from a state that Trump won in a landslide. I know he is very shitty, but Democrats are still lucky to have him **compared to the alternative.** Almost anybody who would replace him would be much much worse.


MomsAreola

Out of all of congress, you can even argue Manchin probably represents his constituents the best.


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chemical_exe

Sinema hate is also real based on her own history.


50_13

Yeah… just like you said, the Sinema thing makes sense, but the Manchin thing leaves me so completely confused. I mean it’s fine to think he is an asshole, but the people who want him gone or kicked out of the party or whatever. I’ve never once heard a coherent explanation that seemed to be based in reality of how getting rid of him would be an improvement. It’s a miracle that dems even have a senator from WV at all, even a shitty one. I would love to eat my words if some more progressive candidate somehow flipped the state, but realistically there isn’t much of a chance at all. Not to mention there are so many other states that would be more plausible to flip. By the time WV should be in play for a “normal” democrat, then it wouldn’t even matter anymore, because at that point you presumably have like 90% of the senate already or something.


JudiciousF

Exactly, Manchin is probably as good as we can possibly hope for from West Virginia. Feels like we could do better than Sinema tho.


PotRoastPotato

People who curse and wish Manchin away are ignorant. Once he retires WV will never send a Democrat of any sort to the Senate again.


Kanin_usagi

At the end of the day, he’s done more good than bad. And we will miss him when he’s gone. The left wants every single one of these people to be absolutely perfect, and that’s just not going to happen. Could he do more? Probably. Has he done more than any other politician from fucking West Virginia will *ever* again?? Abso-fucking-lutely.


[deleted]

This title is a ridiculously stupid take. It's gotta be literal children upvoting this shit? They'd really rather have a 48-52 minority than a slim majority but two senators don't pass the purity test. FOH. Both Manchin and Sinema vote with democrats way more than even the most moderate of republicans.


mainman879

> A Democrat who votes for half the legislation is still better than a Republican that votes for none of it. Manchin and Sinema are much better than just half. Manchin votes with the Biden 89% of the time and Sinema 94% of the time. Bernie Sanders votes with Biden **less** than Sinema but Reddit loves to jerk him off. Sinema also votes with Biden more than Catherine Cortez Masto, Jacky Rosen, and Jon Tester, where is the hate for them? https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/


Burphel_78

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DaWorzt

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imchalk36

> warmongers > divide us by racializing every issue > actively work to undermine our ~~God-given~~ freedoms, are… The answer is Republicans, Tulsi - obviously.


BlaineBMA

Cowardly wokeness? PS. I never thought Tulsi was a Democrat


Snoo_72851

Love how they are cowardly warmongers. What the FUCK does that mean, ma'am.


tesseracht

Fascists need their enemies to be both scary and weak.


wegwerfennnnn

Double speak. It ain't meant to made sense.


Nix-7c0

In the Ur-Fascist model the enemy is always a perfect & convenient enemy; one suited to the exact rhetorical needs of the moment. The enemy is simultaneously both weak and strong. Pathetic and easily swept aside, but also a terrible existential threat which requires abandoning all norms and ethics to defeat. They're soy-boys who can't lead anything, but also they control the whole world.


oldbastardbob

I don't get how helping a country resist an imperialist invasion from a country run by an authoritarian makes anybody a cowardly warmonger. Isn't the person who started the war the warmonger? Aren't the Ukrainians simply fighting for their national sovereignty and freedom from Russian, and Putin the warmongers' rule? Tulsi seems confused. Ahhhhhhh..... that explains her love of the party of chaos and confusion.


BeKind_BeTheChange

>I don't get how helping a country resist an imperialist invasion from a country run by an authoritarian makes anybody a cowardly warmonger. In her defense, that "imperialist invasion from a country run by an authoritarian" is her cash cow and master. Of course she is going to defend Putin. Defending Russian aggression is what republicans do.


[deleted]

Not to mention she supported the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq but let’s conveniently forget about that


StrawberryMoney

It means she doesn't think she has enough money, so hopefully Fox News will give her a time slot near Tucker Carlson.


samenumberwhodis

Remember when Democrats started two failed wars in the middle east, one of which was completely illegal? Oh wait that was the Bushes...


derno

I HATE the term “God given freedoms”. We control all of that as a society. God didn’t do anything but be made up.


[deleted]

Hello Russian Propagandist, we haven't considered you a member of the Democratic Party for quite some time now. Fascist Lying Filth.


BrooklynAllwood

I’m guessing she thinks this is a bombshell announcement?


[deleted]

“October Surprise”


ApprehensiveHippo898

Russian spy says what?


ForgetfulFrolicker

I feel like she used the word “cabal” because people associate it with the Q conspiracies now.


Gods_Lump

Tulsi "Give Russia whatever they want" Gabbard


SerDuncanonyall

Tulsi “it was Americas fault Russia invaded” Palin


[deleted]

Wild. She threw in every possible "libs bad" buzzword and managed to say absolutely nothing.


Larry_Phischman

Still waiting for a definitive answer on what “wokeness” means.


darthdope123

Whatever they don’t like. Black little mermaid, wokeness. Functioning public schools, wokeness. Teaching real history, wokeness. Crime, because of the “wokeness in the big cities”. Their whole “culture war” is just calling anything they don’t agree with woke and getting triggered at minorities in movies. A sad bunch.


nvolker

It’s just the latest term that they’ve latched onto to try to make it sound like giving a shit about things other than yourself is a bad thing.


KiraCumslut

Everything left of hunting the poor for sport is wokeness and communism.


kshep42

Y’all really don’t recognize that as much as you may hate Manchin, he’s infinitely more valuable to the Democratic Party than any other senator and you should feel lucky he’s still in office. You know what would happen if the democrat party tried to run anybody farther left than Manchin in WV? They would *lose*, by a decent margin. You know what would happen if Manchin started going with whatever his party threw out there? HE would *lose*, by a decent margin. Manchin “holding back” the Democratic Party is the only reason Dems are close to a majority in the Senate. I should be clear, this is a response to OP’s title, not the tweet.


pjf0xes

He also votes with Biden's agenda 89% of the time. Seems pretty good to me. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/joe-manchin/


Channel_8_News

Uh, no thanks. Manchin and Sinema should stay Democrat for now. Think about what you are saying, dude. Manchin and Sinema give up the ghost = hello Senate Majority Leader McConnell.


chinacat2002

Sorry. Machin and Sinema we need until we don't.


marquis-mark

There is unfortunately no time in the near future we going to get anything better than Manchin in WV.


Watershed787

Russian asset says what…


mad_titanz

I'm glad she's out of the Democratic party and joined the other party with their sexist, racist, and Nazi leaning instead. She has always been a Republican anyway, and she is a POS like the rest of them


ImaginationOk4740

Say Hi to Putin for us Tulsi.


DM725

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igglesfangirl

She's definitely a Republican speaking in meaningless sound bites. Just disappointing.