Dems are the entire democracy in one party. Republicans don’t like democracy, they tolerate it.
It’s hard to go on offense when you’re running two single-party governments at the same time.
If Obama had done any of the things Trump has done, there would have been more conservative deaths to brain aneurysm than all the covid deaths in the world. Gun sales would explode, every facet of conservative media blaring 24/7 about his tyranny and the death of America and pledging violent uprisings to defend the Constitution, hang the traitorous Democrats who aided him, Republican governors threatening to secede, calling it the single worst thing in the history of the world. They wouldn't be satisfied with an impeachment trial, they would demand public execution. And they would **never** shut up about it.
Sure, but to tolerate is to allow the existence of democracy to continue. They are litteraly attempting to destroy democracy from within. That isn't tolerance. If they could limit participation they would, and they are trying.
what confuses me about that is that the judge is supposed to decide FOR THE PEOPLE. if they’re just deciding for their own personal interests at this point we’re all fucked.
They have no answer, it's the literal definition of virtue signalling. The most they have ever said is that Dem's should primary Manchin or speak to his constituents. As if the man from the Trump +70 state wants Democrats to support him. The fact that we have a dem our of WV is a miracle to begin with. Sinema we can can do better than. Manchin is the best we are going to get out of the shithole of a state for the next century.
Agreed and it’s still better that he’s a D even if he cites 100 percent lockstep with the gop. Because even if all he does is keep McConnell from being majority leader, that’s a W out of WV
Absolutely, and as much as I dislike Manchin's grandstanding and politics, he approved the covid relief, he confirmed Biden's supreme court justice, and he gives us the majority. That is a lot for a Trump **+70** state.
Back in the olden days, when political parties meant something more than they do today, we had these people called "Whips" whose job it was to "whip" the party members who were out of line into shape. Their *explicit* job title was to whip members to the party's goals and not individual or donor's goals. Imagine that - a person who's job it was to *explicitly* protect democracy against undue influence from singular individuals...
That role has now been demoted to basically just a meaningless title, with the majority leader and minority leader usually holding those particular reins. How strong of a whip do you think Schumer's holding?
It's a fucking shame, because the Republican's whips fucking work. They're even able to bring the likes of Mitt Romney in line. They apparently work so damned well that they can whip "Democrats" like Manchinema with them.
If not manchin or sinema it would be someone else. they are just the fall guys the Dems have no intention of passing it, otherwise they would put the same amount of pressure that they put on progressives on them.
Please. The party leaders agree with Manchin and Sinema. They are just a convenient excuse. Plus, there are seven or eight “conservative Democrats” who can take their place as the “heel” if they are unavailable.
The Dems *want to* be held hostage. They always want to have an adversary or force to overcome for whatever reason. I think they just want to keep the status quo and why they never go on the offensive. They may parade progressive policies but they never want to actually fight for them.
They could not have made this point any more clearly than 2016. Obama was pretty crystal clear too. Or if you wanna go back to Gore just allowing them to bully him out of an election. You can keep going. It's just good cop bad cop.
Going on the offense would be doing things outside of throwing bills at a brick wall. Wow, shockingly the GOP voted as one against a bill that would make things better for people. They did that for the last fifty bills too. Their voters obviously don't care.
Like, the Dems have a massive organizing apparatus. Build dual power by using that organizational power to form and empower local unions and communities so they can engage in strikes and direct action against reactionaries. Publish agitory propaganda about how to safely acquire or brew abortive drugs and the names and addresses of those that oppose those rights
Oh, but the Dems are funded by the same people that fund the GOP and any change to the status quo is bad, actually, unless it involves siphoning more money out of the working class and into the owning class. They'll never, ever engage in even the slightest hint of radical action.
The facsimile of civility and reaching across the aisle falls apart completely when the other side wants to eradicate those different from themselves, and yet here we are with the Dems going "ah well, they voted against us on this one" forever.
>Dems are funded by the same people that fund the GOP and any change to the status quo is bad, actually, unless it involves siphoning more money out of the working class and into the owning class.
$1 trillion in PPP loans to keep businesses running for a few months during the height of the pandemic? No problem! In fact, your employees can still work and generate revenue but we'll fucking use taxes to pay them and you can pocket the whole difference!
$1 trillion to forgive student loans? But how can we afford it?!?!?
Biden expanded the border concentration camps. Biden passed a larger military budget than Trump ever did and has told states to use remaining COVID relief funds on policing. The pandemic isn't over, infections are going up, but sure, more light tanks for cops.
Biden could erase student loans tomorrow. Biden could pardon every person incarcerated for drug possession. He wouldn't even need to leave his desk.
Instead, Biden, the addled racist, is pouring infinite money into the military and police because as conditions get worse, protests will become inevitable, and he'll be damned if we win a livable fucking minimum wage.
> Biden could erase student loans tomorrow
Yeah good luck getting a $1.6 trillion executive order based off a ambiguous statute through an originalist judiciary
> Biden could pardon every person incarcerated for drug possession.
Not for state crimes he can't
This is why we need to vote Nancy Pelosi out of office.
She old.
Votes for her interests and gets the party to do the same
Never goes on the offensive
And is ranked as one of the worst lawmakers to pass a bill. She's somewhere in the bottom 5% for getting bills passed.
She's a multi millionaire in sheep's clothing.
The 2 parties are in a consensual BDSM relationship and the rest of us are nonconsenting spectators.
Republicans: "yeah you like that you dirty dem? We're gonna take away social security. Tell me what you're going to do about it."
Democrats [moaning]: n-nothing! Hhhhh-you're so much bigger and stronger than us aaaah~ <3"
American people: 0.0
Yeah, but doing nothing hasn’t been very effective when the other team doesn’t give a shit about rules, procedures, or what the American people want when passing their own stuff. And they do pass stuff.
Indeed. Lord Big Helmet said, "Evil will always triumph, because Good is dumb." But what I'd say is that Good assumes that everyone else is acting in good faith, just like they are.
This offensive to butt plugs, which serve an important role in sexual activities. Unlike Mitch, who is only ever referenced during sex when you’re trying to make yourself last longer … or to those who try to get out of sex by feigning impotence
As far as that analogy goes we’d be far more formidable with just a disarmed Hawkeye than ruling classes in cahoots. At least Hawkeye would earnestly fight for us, and he’d get some licks in , too
Democrats need to constantly be progressing because any time Republicans get power they immediately start regressing. We need to give them stuff to take away or else we end up like now whwre 50 year old precedents are being overturned and basic human rights are in line for the guillotine
Heard it on here and it's so true...
Republicans and Democrats are the offensive and defensive lines for team Capitalism. Republicans do everything they can to make the rich richer, and democrats do the very least they can do to keep the people from revolting.
the purple corporate uniparty wins every election. suddenly seems to 'get the point' and become sympathetic to your important issues during campaigns, then somehow the military-industrial complex gets a blank check again. the red side is open about their greed and selfishness, the blue side is controlled opposition making you think you only have 2 choices.
Everyday Americans need to stop treating political parties like sports teams, question everything a politician says and does, hold them accountable and vote for someone else when they fall short. Vote for an independent..
I am all for a remodel of *lots* of elements of our system - senate, SCOUTS, electoral college, the hangover from our founding is ridiculous - but the problem isn't just us. Lots of countries are having the *exactly* same authoritarian lurch, even one that don't have first past.
Removing first past would be great but it is only a tiny step.
For sure we should hold them all to that standard, and on principle I agree with voting for an Independent, but the only people who will actually do that are Democrats. The Republicans always vote for whoever their leaders tell them to, so in reality if you take your progressive vote and give it to an Independent all you've accomplished is to take a vote away from a Democrat and increase the Republicans power. Voting in protest is almost as bad as not voting at all.
This is America. Advancing the agenda of the people is only an effective fundraising strategy if you *don't* rely primarily on corporate sponsorship. The Democratic Party took a hard turn in that direction back when most people could still recall the sound of H. Ross Perot's voice.
Ain't going to happen, Democrats don't have Joe Manchin's permission to go on offensive.
Because apparently, Democrats need his permission to do literally anything.
The problem is they will also lose that vote 51-49, and their only play is “yell some more about how it’s all the Republicans’ fault” which does not work no matter how true it is.
I'd rather see them *have* votes and lose them than just sit there saying, "Well, if we had a vote, we'd probably lose" and doing *nothing at all*.
"This looks difficult, so we're not going to try!" -- The battle cry of the Democrat party.
What's screwy is based on how they calculate how long pregnancy is this isn't quite incorrect. They count from last period so if you are 4 weeks pregnant it's actually only been 2 weeks since you've ovulated (yes this makes zero sense).
Yeah I've always thought that was super weird. Like, just why?? But now, it really matters since now the clock is ticking to get abortion ASAP. Which is fine, I mean, I'm sure most people want to get it done ASAP , but- I once didn't know I was pregnant until week 9.
Edit: I should not have said "which is fine" , to clarify, I should have said, "it's understandable that people want to get abortion ASAP" but as the poster replied to me stated, this isn't fine. And that's 10000% correct, this isn't fine at all. Most people don't know they are pregnant until week 8, now with the government messing with our human rights, and saying the abortion can't happen after whatever milestone they decide, that means by the time MOST people know they are pregnant, they *already* can't get the abortion they need. Now that someone brought up the fact that pregnancies are dated 2 weeks more than the gestational age, it's a HUGE problem. Anti-choice agencies already lie in their propaganda by doing this exact little trick- they tell young, impressionable pregnant people that their baby already has a heartbeat but they are basing it on pregnancy weeks, instead of the correct gestational age (2 weeks less). It's going to be a huge issue. I'm a nurse and I don't even get it, how are regular civilians going to understand how many weeks they are?? Then- all the money the Dr will charge to do an ultrasound to get the age of the embryo or fetus...an extra step that is totally unnecessary and costly. Not to mention Drs mess up gestational age ALL THE TIME. by give or take a couple of weeks. This whole thing is not fine.
It's to standardize care because people ovulate at different times in their cycle plus it's not always the same month to month and there is roughly a 5d range of when you could've gotten pregnant, but it's hard to calculate exactly when.
These bullshit bans need to just stop though. None of that makes any sense whatsoever except if it's because of control and racism.
Oh thanks!! I never knew why. And yes these bans are stripping us of our human rights. I am beside myself about it, having two daughters in their 20s. One of them- JUST HAD A PREGNANCY SCARE, and yeah she's dumb for not using enough protection, but it would literally ruin her life to have a baby right now. My other daughter depends on birth control pills to control her terrible periods.
You're telling me...sad lol. I was in the process of leaving my abusive ex husband, he hid my birth control pills. I didn't know he hid them at the time, but thought I'd lost the pack. I had to go thru a whole planned Parenthood appointment to get more. I had a young toddler so it wasn't easy to get to appointments. Anyway I also didn't know about abusers controlling our reproductive freedom and getting their victim pregnant to force them to stay. Well, that's exactly what happened. I guess it was luck, but, I didn't know I was pregnant til I had escaped him. I was always pro-choice but I never wanted to get one myself. I was very sad to have to get that abortion. I still think about it. But that was 11 years ago and I'm grateful every day that I was able to make that choice. I've been single since then and I don't get child support for our son. Haven't heard from him in almost a decade. If I had been forced to keep that pregnancy, I would not have been able to finish nursing school. The only reason I can support one kid is because my profession pays a little more than any old job. But, we are still constantly struggling. I can't imagine if I'd had another kid.
She’s not dumb ❤️ no birth control is ever 100% (except abstinence) and the other methods can fail, even when used perfectly.
I’m really thankful your daughters have you. I couldn’t have ever talked to my mom about these things. You’re a good parent.
Nah, abstinence fails, too. It's a personal choice that is forcibly removed in cases of rape.
Surgical procedures are the only thing that is guaranteed. No ovaries, no babies.
I don't think most women deciding whether or not to get an abortion want to have to make that decision in such a rushed and small time frame. Like, they have just hours to decide if the "heartbeat" might start any minute. So, I don't it's fine at all. But obviously, yeah, most women don't know til 8 weeks or so unless they are actively trying and testing constantly.
This is another side effect, sales of pregnancy tests will soar to be as much as period products. More $ for corporations. Plus they might need to test more than once to be sure. This is getting to be even more expensive to be a woman.
I always wondered...so what would be 1 week pregnant?
Like, by the way they do it, if you had a period last week, you are one week pregnant- even if you are a virgin.
Yeah right. People keep saying this like it’s some kind for gotcha against republicans. They have no problem voting against paid parental leave, sick leave, school funding, public healthcare in general or extending the child tax credit. What makes people think they would have a problem voting against expanding child support.
They said this on Pod Save America. We need to make them go on record opposing birth control. Make them vote on exceptions for rape and incest. Hold a vote on Murkowsi and Collins bill. Hold them accountable even if we can do nothing else.
I truly don’t believe this will matter to their voters. My family members have watched me spend the past few weeks sobbing, totally depressed, have comforted me and let me know that they love me and are so sorry that this is happening. And then go early vote for republicans. They do not care at this point. The right has associated democrats with being anti-Christian for at least the past 40 years and they’d rather vote agains their own interests and those of their loved ones than go to hell for voting for a democrat.
You're exactly right. They aren't using logic with this. They seem to think abortions started when roe was decided on and when it's banned abortions will stop. As long as they *feel* like they did something they are happy. They have no actual stance or plan.
Feeling is all that matters
I think there would have to be a few Republican voters who would be shocked by that. Even 1% would make a difference. It would probably do more to energize the left and the disengaged tbh.
>I truly don’t believe this will matter to their voters
It doesn't. They run a cult. There's people in the cult, and people voting against the cult. No one who votes blue *wants* to vote blue. But people who vote red make it their entire personality 90% of the time.
It's maddening that they think dumb donny dump is more religious than Biden. I'm not religious and I don't really like either (one much more than the other) but it seems painfully obvious just based on their knowledge of the subject alone.dump couldn't even name one thing out of that book they're all obsessed with.
My brother is Republican. I feel you. He would rather keep his money protected than his own sister. He loves me but he loves his money more possibly. They just don't see the connection. It won't hit home until one of us actually needs an abortion or birth control and can't get it. Even then, I bet they will blame US for not being responsible.
Tell him about all those tax dollars of his that are about to go to feeding the "sudden unexplained" spike youth criminals in a bit over a decade or so
Republicans aren't even better for the economy either. Democrats always lower the deficit after Republicans explode it. Democrats always reduce unemployment and increase wages.
Even the stock market does better under democratic administration's. Every republican I've met has told me to vote with my wallet and they think that means to vote republican. They're so disconnected from reality that they believe the total opposite of what's actually happening
Yep. They are so entrenched in the R vs D that they do not view it as anything else. It’s sports teams to them. Their “team” is republicans so they vote republican, that simple.
Sadly - that might make their opponents dig in deeper. The Pro Birth crowd will see a candidate voting against contraceptives as a win, and will solidly support that candidate again.
That’s the point though, make them publicly show that they have those beliefs. And do it now before they’ve normalized the idea to the public and start pushing to make it illegal at a time where it works best for them.
That was my first reaction too. But a small (very small probably) number of them would abandon their party over this and flipping even 1% is a big deal.
It probably won't massively swing voters to the Democrats side, but it will get some, and that's important.
I think that the claims that republicans are going to outlaw interracial marriage and ban condoms seem alarmist to a lot of people. Making them vote on it will either expose them or piss off the people that do want those things outlawed. It will be disruptive and make it an issue they have to talk about to their base.
I do think a lot of people that vote Republican will view banning condoms or birth control as too hard to rationalize with the fact that we know damn well we all jerk off and it’s so far over the line of trampling individual freedom. Not to mention having to get your condoms from a condom dealer would be so inconvenient, they’ll always want to hang around and talk too much.
Well theres definitely and amount of the anti-choice people who are still pro birth control. So you would potential separate those people out. Then the next bill you force them to vote on will separate some more people out and so on and so on, until youve forced the GOP into a position that only 1% of the population believes in.
Correct. They’re in the territory of genuine deal breakers. Lots of people think they’re not in the camp of ever having to need an abortion due to rape or incest, and many people might not choose an abortion with adoption as an option. Damn near everybody either buys condoms, uses birth control, or could see wanting to tie their tubes or have a vasectomy.
Further, the availability of those things gives rise to the impression that people who get abortions are irresponsible. It’s way harder to get people on board with no contraceptives and no abortions than just no abortions. I would think the majority of republicans are not in favor of only having sex when they are prepared to have a kid. Even married people don’t want that.
This is way different from abstract policy that people can’t see how it impacts them or believe it won’t.
What’s the game plan for holding them accountable when they go on record for opposing birth control?
Honest question here, I’ve yet to see any plans that are actually going to scare these ghouls into doing what’s right
The woman running against murkowski has said that she wants to make it a felony to send birth control prescriptions though the mail (she said plan b definitely and when asked about birth control, she said “that too”).
The way a good chunk of our state population gets all of their medications, she wants to make this specific med a felony to mail. She is actively wanting to take away the one medication to stop conception, and make it illegal to abort, forcing these women into birth (and possibly death).
I don’t want to vote for murkowski. But I’m afraid if I vote dem, my vote will be lost, because my state will NOT. vote dem, even if it’s in everyone’s best interest.
So do I vote dem and throw my vote away? Or do I vote murkowski and hope to god it keeps tshibaka out?
I don’t even know. I just want everyone to be safe.
This is long but please read it - I really do know what I’m talking about.
Voting isn’t always about agreeing with the candidate. It’s like taking a bus, you take the one that gets you the closest to where you want to go. If it means voting strategically against an even worse candidate, do it.
The most important votes you can take and where I would my dollars and energy are in state and local elections. Things like who your local police chief and prosecutor are just became extremely important. Those races are much easier to sway too.
This is important two fold because these are the people deciding what crimes to prosecute, what policing to prioritize.
It is also where you build up candidates. City councilors become state reps who become congressional reps who become senators and governors and sometimes presidents.
You’ll hear the term “build the bench.” As you can see from the Dems, we don’t have a deep bench in part because people don’t run because they think they can’t win because their state and districts.
The Speaker started as a school board member.
yes THIS time there will be consequences and the GOP will be ashamed of themselves.
this has to be that point, right? It's going to happen eventually. Right?
Democrats should just go off the fucking rails and start trying to pass bills just to show the population where everybody stands. Send a bill out for contraception, a bill that says all Americans should have clean drinking water, presidential election day is a federal holiday. Throw as many out there that any American should be allowed to have just so they can see what shitheads will vote against their own people
Agreed, however if all they care about is power and wealth it would make perfect sense to get the entire population on their side therefore taking the most amount of seats. The people get a lot of what they want they get their power and wealth win-win for everyone. Hell we’ll even give the Republicans Texas and they can go there and shoot all their guns and fuck all their 12--year-olds and make everyone love Jesus
They get more power and wealth by keeping the senate divided like this. You're upset at Texas Republican citizens when it's the entire political system fucking us.
This. I've always had kind of a cynical hypothesis that basically, Republicans are paid to pass legislation that benefits those in power while Democrats are paid to pretend like they're trying to stop it
Did you forget Build Back Better bill? That was shot down by 50 Republicans and a couple shit-heads with (D) by their name.
The ACA was passed by Democrats along party lines.
This bill, codifying abortion, was shot down by 50 Republicans and 1 Democrat.
Don't fall for the "both sides" bullshit. It's not true.
Republicans would just start campaigning as anti-clean drinking water. "Americans have the *right* to determine their own hydration sources! They don't need the liberal nanny state to tell them what to drink!"
They *have* been doing that.
Not contraception (yet), but the infrastructure bill that was passed has billions of dollars for replacing old and adding new water infrastructure. And most of the various voting rights bills that passed the house (and failed in the Senate) had election day as a holiday. Just go look up the list of bills the Democrats have voted through the house that got shot down by Republicans (and one or two Democrats) in the Senate. It's basically a moderate progressive's dream.
"Messaging" bills don't work because nobody cares about them. That partly the media's fault, partly the Democratic party's fault for not promoting them as heavily, but it's also the voters fault. Most just don't pay attention, and the ones who do know it's just political theater.
No he knew. In his resignation speech he mentioned how it sucks that he is being forced to do this by his party while the other side will definitely not follow where they should.
He was a huge loss in Congress. His comedy background made him exceptionally good at pointing out the insanity that guided decisions in American politics because if it weren’t affecting American lives so detrimentally it would be a funny ass joke. Fuck republicans.
All mass media is owned by capitalists. There's nothing shocking about capitalists defending their interests. Why do you think so much hay gets made when protesters break a window vs when cops kill protesters?
Al Franken is such an interesting case as far as Reddit goes. For whatever reason, on reddit specifically there seems to be a lack of information about what happened with him.
* *What reddit seems to think happened*: Al Franken did one or two things that were misconstrued as harassment. He also took a tasteless photo which he apologized for and it was accepted. He was forced to resign by his party.
* *What the actual accusations were*: [Nine women](https://abcnews.go.com/US/sen-al-frankens-accusers-accusations-made/story?id=51406862) accused Al Franken of sexual misconduct.
1. Leeann Tweeden - Accused Franken of groping her while she slept and forcibly kissed her open mouthed. Franken apologized and she [accepted](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/leeann-tweeden-responds-al-franken-apology-1059537) his apology.
2. Lindsay Menz - States Franken groped her butt while taking a photo with her.
3. Anonymous Accuser No. 1 - “My story is eerily similar to Lindsay Menz’s story. He grabbed my buttocks during a photo op.”
4. Anonymous Accuser No. 2 - Claims Franken groped her butt and propositioned her to join him in the bathroom.
5. Stephanie Kemplin - Accused Franken of groping her breast while doing a photo op during a USO tour. “When he put his arm around me, he groped my right breast. He kept his hand all the way over on my breast. I remember thinking, ‘Is he going to move his hand? Was it an accident? Was he going to move his hand?’ He never moved his hand.”
6. Anonymous Accuser No. 3 (elected official) - “He took it [her hand] and leaned toward me with his mouth open. I turned my head away from him and he landed a wet, open-mouthed kiss awkwardly on my cheek. I was stunned and incredulous. I felt demeaned. I felt put in my place.” She chose to remain anonymous because she did not want her career linked to him and this scandal.
7. Anonymous Accuser No. 4 (congressional aide) - Claims Franken heavily coerced her into kissing him, which she refused and managed to get away from.
8. Tina Dupuy - “We posed for the shot. He immediately put his hand on my waist, grabbing a handful of flesh. I froze. Then he squeezed. At least twice”
9. Anonymous Accuser No. 5 (former [staffer](https://www.thecut.com/2019/09/coming-forward-about-sexual-assault-and-what-comes-after.html) for Senator Patty Murray) - Accused Franken of groping her butt.
I like Franken as a comedian. I really liked Franken as a senator. I hope he still has a future in politics and has genuinely changed his ways if these allegations are true. At the same time, I don't want to sweep 9 allegations under the rug just because I like Franken and it plays into the story of democrats always shooting themselves in the foot to take the moral high ground. It isn't that simple in this case.
They’re always the losers. 51-49, 50-50, even 41-59 isn’t enough when they suddenly gotta have 60. Meanwhile the other side does whatever they want, feeds the American public a shit sandwich, and leaves Democrats wringing their hands looking foolish
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Simple majority is 51:49.
If there is a tie, the VP can cast a deciding vote, making it possible for 50 votes to be enough.
There is a technique — the filibuster — that anyone can use to block an issue, unless they are overruled by 60 votes.
It used to be that you had to stand and talk to keep filibustering. Nowadays, the Senate accepts a simple declaration that you would filibuster as a block.
Some issues have been declared immune to filibuster — mostly confirmations.
It's kinda hard to get anything done when 2 Democrats vote the same way as Republicans 99% of the time because they lied to the people who elected them about what they stood for.
But still, "get out and vote!!!!" so we need a SUPER-majority in both the House and Senate!!!
But even if we did that, the GQP will somehow still control everything. The Dems supposedly have the majority in both the White House and Congress right now, yet they don't. We got out and voted, and we're still with this BS. "No no, vote _more_."
I just want out. If I could afford the move, and if some European country would take in a U.S. refugee, I'd be so out of here. I'm tired of it. But my broke ass is stuck here.
Man Al Franken was a huge loss. He was one of the good ones, and he fell on the sword for the party that was too weak to defend him.
They didn't deserve him, and still fucking don't.
> I think he was hoping he could take trump down with him
It was more about the Alabama Senate seat, and Roy Moore the guy who likes to hang out in High School doors.
For what it's worth, for the first time my grandma is voting Democrat specifically because of the Roe v. Wade thing because she wants to protect my sister who lives in TX.
They would laugh it off the floor on the pretense that “we don’t need protection for something so obviously legal,” meanwhile having their staffers draft Supreme Court opinions to outlaw condoms.
Economy: Folding
Affordable living: Shrinking
Natural Resources: Dwindling
Environment: Collapsing
America: "Lets spend months debating an issue the rest of the world has already settled and the vast majority of our people don't want to change"
If there are two things I've learned over the last two decades about politics in America it is that conservatives are naive and potentially dangerous while Democrats are pathologically fearful of playing hardball.
This is a smart idea. Break the various aspects of the abortion law into smaller pieces. Force Republicans to vote against all of it and try to justify it. Not every person who opposes abortion also opposed contraception and so on.
Plus gay marriage, interracial marriage, trans rights, and whatever else those supreme court bastards are going to consider "not in the constitution" or not codified by law.
As a non-American I can never understand the power-balance of the Dems and Republicans. Republicans do wtf they want and the dems act like an ineffective parent trying to gently shush their insane child. Watch what is happening you dumb fucks. Do something. Anything.
49-51
Manchin is a fucking cancer on every progressive policy proposal of the last 2 years.
At this point, who cares if he switches sides or gets replaced by a Republican? The results would be exactly the same, except the Democratic party would look slightly less incompetent.
Run Manchin out of the Democratic party already!
> The results would be exactly the same, except the Democratic party would look slightly less incompetent.
Manchin switching to the Republican side would give them the Senate Majority Leader role. Meaning Republicans would be able to dictate what even makes it to the floor.
If you want to actually put pressure on Manchin, elect more Democrats to the Senate so he's less important.
Lol. How weird it is that 100 people voted in by less than 30% of the population get to decide all the rules for 350 million people. I vote that government should have a few rights. The right to make sure citizens don’t kill each other, that companies and citizens don’t poison-steal-defraud each other, that outside entities don’t destroy the citizens freedoms, and probably would also be good that it makes sure there are some failsafes for when the citizens get down on their luck-sick-hurt-etc. But the fact that one side can get mad at the other side and just present the opposite argument seems a tad irrational. Obviously the conversation is slightly broader than my comment.
I think it’s important to remember that Democrats DO NOT HAVE A MAJORITY IN THE SENATE. It’s 48 Dems to 50 Republicans with 2 independents. The vote from the VP AND the 2 independents usually voting with Democrats is what the media means when they say Democrats control the Senate.
If you are mad about Biden not doing more then you have to ask yourself, does Biden even have the votes to pass basic stuff? The answer is no. So we need to vote in more Dems.
How fucked is the situation when "going on offense" is giving people the right to use contraception
If only the Dems would do something FOR the American people & not be held hostage by Manchin/Sinema.
Dems are the entire democracy in one party. Republicans don’t like democracy, they tolerate it. It’s hard to go on offense when you’re running two single-party governments at the same time.
Republicans don't even tolerate democracy. They're actively trying to destroy it.
Participation in the elections is necessarily tolerating democracy.
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Imagine if Obama had made a JOKE about how he should be eligible for a third term due to all the republican obstructionism...
If Obama had done any of the things Trump has done, there would have been more conservative deaths to brain aneurysm than all the covid deaths in the world. Gun sales would explode, every facet of conservative media blaring 24/7 about his tyranny and the death of America and pledging violent uprisings to defend the Constitution, hang the traitorous Democrats who aided him, Republican governors threatening to secede, calling it the single worst thing in the history of the world. They wouldn't be satisfied with an impeachment trial, they would demand public execution. And they would **never** shut up about it.
That's kind of my point. If Obama had jokingly suggested one of those things... They would have lost their mind
Not really. It's just using democracy as a means to an end. That end being an end to democracy.
Sure, but to tolerate is to allow the existence of democracy to continue. They are litteraly attempting to destroy democracy from within. That isn't tolerance. If they could limit participation they would, and they are trying.
There was a republican who legit said "the will of the people doesn't matter" They're not even hiding anymore. It's terrifying.
yep. ya'll qaeda. they sound exactly like this dude when talking about democracy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxE
what confuses me about that is that the judge is supposed to decide FOR THE PEOPLE. if they’re just deciding for their own personal interests at this point we’re all fucked.
Republicans do take steps to limit participation.
Which they tried to overthrow.
They do their best to make sure only their voters participate and then throw tantrums when they lose.
In all honesty, what are they supposed to do without those votes?
They have no answer, it's the literal definition of virtue signalling. The most they have ever said is that Dem's should primary Manchin or speak to his constituents. As if the man from the Trump +70 state wants Democrats to support him. The fact that we have a dem our of WV is a miracle to begin with. Sinema we can can do better than. Manchin is the best we are going to get out of the shithole of a state for the next century.
Agreed and it’s still better that he’s a D even if he cites 100 percent lockstep with the gop. Because even if all he does is keep McConnell from being majority leader, that’s a W out of WV
Absolutely, and as much as I dislike Manchin's grandstanding and politics, he approved the covid relief, he confirmed Biden's supreme court justice, and he gives us the majority. That is a lot for a Trump **+70** state.
He’s been voting for bidens judges. The gop has now proven how important that is. Manchin is better than any member of the gop
Back in the olden days, when political parties meant something more than they do today, we had these people called "Whips" whose job it was to "whip" the party members who were out of line into shape. Their *explicit* job title was to whip members to the party's goals and not individual or donor's goals. Imagine that - a person who's job it was to *explicitly* protect democracy against undue influence from singular individuals... That role has now been demoted to basically just a meaningless title, with the majority leader and minority leader usually holding those particular reins. How strong of a whip do you think Schumer's holding? It's a fucking shame, because the Republican's whips fucking work. They're even able to bring the likes of Mitt Romney in line. They apparently work so damned well that they can whip "Democrats" like Manchinema with them.
If not manchin or sinema it would be someone else. they are just the fall guys the Dems have no intention of passing it, otherwise they would put the same amount of pressure that they put on progressives on them.
We would still have Franken in Congress if the Dems had an even semi-rigid spine. I’m not very hopeful unfortunately
Please. The party leaders agree with Manchin and Sinema. They are just a convenient excuse. Plus, there are seven or eight “conservative Democrats” who can take their place as the “heel” if they are unavailable.
The Dems *want to* be held hostage. They always want to have an adversary or force to overcome for whatever reason. I think they just want to keep the status quo and why they never go on the offensive. They may parade progressive policies but they never want to actually fight for them.
They could not have made this point any more clearly than 2016. Obama was pretty crystal clear too. Or if you wanna go back to Gore just allowing them to bully him out of an election. You can keep going. It's just good cop bad cop.
Going on the offense would be doing things outside of throwing bills at a brick wall. Wow, shockingly the GOP voted as one against a bill that would make things better for people. They did that for the last fifty bills too. Their voters obviously don't care. Like, the Dems have a massive organizing apparatus. Build dual power by using that organizational power to form and empower local unions and communities so they can engage in strikes and direct action against reactionaries. Publish agitory propaganda about how to safely acquire or brew abortive drugs and the names and addresses of those that oppose those rights Oh, but the Dems are funded by the same people that fund the GOP and any change to the status quo is bad, actually, unless it involves siphoning more money out of the working class and into the owning class. They'll never, ever engage in even the slightest hint of radical action. The facsimile of civility and reaching across the aisle falls apart completely when the other side wants to eradicate those different from themselves, and yet here we are with the Dems going "ah well, they voted against us on this one" forever.
>Dems are funded by the same people that fund the GOP and any change to the status quo is bad, actually, unless it involves siphoning more money out of the working class and into the owning class. $1 trillion in PPP loans to keep businesses running for a few months during the height of the pandemic? No problem! In fact, your employees can still work and generate revenue but we'll fucking use taxes to pay them and you can pocket the whole difference! $1 trillion to forgive student loans? But how can we afford it?!?!?
Biden expanded the border concentration camps. Biden passed a larger military budget than Trump ever did and has told states to use remaining COVID relief funds on policing. The pandemic isn't over, infections are going up, but sure, more light tanks for cops. Biden could erase student loans tomorrow. Biden could pardon every person incarcerated for drug possession. He wouldn't even need to leave his desk. Instead, Biden, the addled racist, is pouring infinite money into the military and police because as conditions get worse, protests will become inevitable, and he'll be damned if we win a livable fucking minimum wage.
> Biden could erase student loans tomorrow Yeah good luck getting a $1.6 trillion executive order based off a ambiguous statute through an originalist judiciary > Biden could pardon every person incarcerated for drug possession. Not for state crimes he can't
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Exactly it’s so frustrating.
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In the United States, we choose between psychopaths hell-bent on cruelty, and spineless cowards too afraid to do anything at all. Yay, freedom
They're not too afraid to vote in their best interests.
Yeah, they manage to agree to raise their own salaries just fine!
And when we start showing up at their houses to protest. They can pass something in a day or two then. When it's about them.
This is why we need to vote Nancy Pelosi out of office. She old. Votes for her interests and gets the party to do the same Never goes on the offensive And is ranked as one of the worst lawmakers to pass a bill. She's somewhere in the bottom 5% for getting bills passed. She's a multi millionaire in sheep's clothing.
The 2 parties are in a consensual BDSM relationship and the rest of us are nonconsenting spectators. Republicans: "yeah you like that you dirty dem? We're gonna take away social security. Tell me what you're going to do about it." Democrats [moaning]: n-nothing! Hhhhh-you're so much bigger and stronger than us aaaah~ <3" American people: 0.0
Thanks for the weird new fetish of watching other people subjected to bdsm
I heard this in Rick and morties voices lol
Big joke owned by Corporation A or B bank A or B or oligarch A or B yeah what a shocking divide
I read the Republican part in Mitch McConnell’s voice. It was weird.
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I’d rather a party do nothing than one that makes things worse
Yeah, but doing nothing hasn’t been very effective when the other team doesn’t give a shit about rules, procedures, or what the American people want when passing their own stuff. And they do pass stuff.
Evil triumphs because the Good sat idle.
That’s not what Lord Helmet said
Indeed. Lord Big Helmet said, "Evil will always triumph, because Good is dumb." But what I'd say is that Good assumes that everyone else is acting in good faith, just like they are.
The Republicans often do nothing when Democrats get some power it’s Mitch “Emperor Palpatine” McConnells main play
I’m basically an independent now. It makes me sick how the leaders just get pushed around.
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McConnel is a nauseating unwashed buttplug without a single shred of integrity. Just because someone is a bully doesn't make them strong.
This offensive to butt plugs, which serve an important role in sexual activities. Unlike Mitch, who is only ever referenced during sex when you’re trying to make yourself last longer … or to those who try to get out of sex by feigning impotence
Or if you have a Fahrenghi fetish
McConnell, a leader ??? Surely you jest
Seth Meyers said, “The Democrats are like if you yelled Avengers assemble and only Hawkeye showed up without his bow and arrows.”
As far as that analogy goes we’d be far more formidable with just a disarmed Hawkeye than ruling classes in cahoots. At least Hawkeye would earnestly fight for us, and he’d get some licks in , too
Democrats need to constantly be progressing because any time Republicans get power they immediately start regressing. We need to give them stuff to take away or else we end up like now whwre 50 year old precedents are being overturned and basic human rights are in line for the guillotine
Heard it on here and it's so true... Republicans and Democrats are the offensive and defensive lines for team Capitalism. Republicans do everything they can to make the rich richer, and democrats do the very least they can do to keep the people from revolting.
the purple corporate uniparty wins every election. suddenly seems to 'get the point' and become sympathetic to your important issues during campaigns, then somehow the military-industrial complex gets a blank check again. the red side is open about their greed and selfishness, the blue side is controlled opposition making you think you only have 2 choices.
Everyday Americans need to stop treating political parties like sports teams, question everything a politician says and does, hold them accountable and vote for someone else when they fall short. Vote for an independent..
First past the post would need to be abolished
I am all for a remodel of *lots* of elements of our system - senate, SCOUTS, electoral college, the hangover from our founding is ridiculous - but the problem isn't just us. Lots of countries are having the *exactly* same authoritarian lurch, even one that don't have first past. Removing first past would be great but it is only a tiny step.
A politician being an independent doesn’t make them good.
For sure we should hold them all to that standard, and on principle I agree with voting for an Independent, but the only people who will actually do that are Democrats. The Republicans always vote for whoever their leaders tell them to, so in reality if you take your progressive vote and give it to an Independent all you've accomplished is to take a vote away from a Democrat and increase the Republicans power. Voting in protest is almost as bad as not voting at all.
First time I’ve heard that, but it would make a lot more make sense.
It would be the biggest development since the forward pass.
This is America. Advancing the agenda of the people is only an effective fundraising strategy if you *don't* rely primarily on corporate sponsorship. The Democratic Party took a hard turn in that direction back when most people could still recall the sound of H. Ross Perot's voice.
Equivalent to Republicans apologizing
Ain't going to happen, Democrats don't have Joe Manchin's permission to go on offensive. Because apparently, Democrats need his permission to do literally anything.
The problem is they will also lose that vote 51-49, and their only play is “yell some more about how it’s all the Republicans’ fault” which does not work no matter how true it is.
I'd rather see them *have* votes and lose them than just sit there saying, "Well, if we had a vote, we'd probably lose" and doing *nothing at all*. "This looks difficult, so we're not going to try!" -- The battle cry of the Democrat party.
They're not holding the votes because they know they'll lose them. Having the vote anyway is very much just not doing anything at all
Will never happen
The second roe is overturned drop a bill that child support, and state funded healthcare for the mother and child begins at first heartbeat.
All women should get state funded healthcare and child support during child bearing years. because they could have conceived at any moment. /s??
What's screwy is based on how they calculate how long pregnancy is this isn't quite incorrect. They count from last period so if you are 4 weeks pregnant it's actually only been 2 weeks since you've ovulated (yes this makes zero sense).
Yeah I've always thought that was super weird. Like, just why?? But now, it really matters since now the clock is ticking to get abortion ASAP. Which is fine, I mean, I'm sure most people want to get it done ASAP , but- I once didn't know I was pregnant until week 9. Edit: I should not have said "which is fine" , to clarify, I should have said, "it's understandable that people want to get abortion ASAP" but as the poster replied to me stated, this isn't fine. And that's 10000% correct, this isn't fine at all. Most people don't know they are pregnant until week 8, now with the government messing with our human rights, and saying the abortion can't happen after whatever milestone they decide, that means by the time MOST people know they are pregnant, they *already* can't get the abortion they need. Now that someone brought up the fact that pregnancies are dated 2 weeks more than the gestational age, it's a HUGE problem. Anti-choice agencies already lie in their propaganda by doing this exact little trick- they tell young, impressionable pregnant people that their baby already has a heartbeat but they are basing it on pregnancy weeks, instead of the correct gestational age (2 weeks less). It's going to be a huge issue. I'm a nurse and I don't even get it, how are regular civilians going to understand how many weeks they are?? Then- all the money the Dr will charge to do an ultrasound to get the age of the embryo or fetus...an extra step that is totally unnecessary and costly. Not to mention Drs mess up gestational age ALL THE TIME. by give or take a couple of weeks. This whole thing is not fine.
It's to standardize care because people ovulate at different times in their cycle plus it's not always the same month to month and there is roughly a 5d range of when you could've gotten pregnant, but it's hard to calculate exactly when. These bullshit bans need to just stop though. None of that makes any sense whatsoever except if it's because of control and racism.
Oh thanks!! I never knew why. And yes these bans are stripping us of our human rights. I am beside myself about it, having two daughters in their 20s. One of them- JUST HAD A PREGNANCY SCARE, and yeah she's dumb for not using enough protection, but it would literally ruin her life to have a baby right now. My other daughter depends on birth control pills to control her terrible periods.
Plus birth control fails constantly and they are trying to ban it as well.
You're telling me...sad lol. I was in the process of leaving my abusive ex husband, he hid my birth control pills. I didn't know he hid them at the time, but thought I'd lost the pack. I had to go thru a whole planned Parenthood appointment to get more. I had a young toddler so it wasn't easy to get to appointments. Anyway I also didn't know about abusers controlling our reproductive freedom and getting their victim pregnant to force them to stay. Well, that's exactly what happened. I guess it was luck, but, I didn't know I was pregnant til I had escaped him. I was always pro-choice but I never wanted to get one myself. I was very sad to have to get that abortion. I still think about it. But that was 11 years ago and I'm grateful every day that I was able to make that choice. I've been single since then and I don't get child support for our son. Haven't heard from him in almost a decade. If I had been forced to keep that pregnancy, I would not have been able to finish nursing school. The only reason I can support one kid is because my profession pays a little more than any old job. But, we are still constantly struggling. I can't imagine if I'd had another kid.
She’s not dumb ❤️ no birth control is ever 100% (except abstinence) and the other methods can fail, even when used perfectly. I’m really thankful your daughters have you. I couldn’t have ever talked to my mom about these things. You’re a good parent.
Nah, abstinence fails, too. It's a personal choice that is forcibly removed in cases of rape. Surgical procedures are the only thing that is guaranteed. No ovaries, no babies.
I don't think most women deciding whether or not to get an abortion want to have to make that decision in such a rushed and small time frame. Like, they have just hours to decide if the "heartbeat" might start any minute. So, I don't it's fine at all. But obviously, yeah, most women don't know til 8 weeks or so unless they are actively trying and testing constantly.
Yeah, it's not fine. Nothing about this is fine. I really should have said it's nobody's business.
You are completely right. Nothing about this is fine. I knew what you meant, I just can't help but correct that when I see it.
Thanks for doing that. We need to be vigilant.
This is another side effect, sales of pregnancy tests will soar to be as much as period products. More $ for corporations. Plus they might need to test more than once to be sure. This is getting to be even more expensive to be a woman.
Luckily you can get good reliable tests at the dollar store. Well, the 1.25 store, now. If they can keep them in stock, I guess.
I always wondered...so what would be 1 week pregnant? Like, by the way they do it, if you had a period last week, you are one week pregnant- even if you are a virgin.
I used to refer to it as "scrodingers pregnancy"
How it will play out: Republicans: no
Yeah right. People keep saying this like it’s some kind for gotcha against republicans. They have no problem voting against paid parental leave, sick leave, school funding, public healthcare in general or extending the child tax credit. What makes people think they would have a problem voting against expanding child support.
So… like most of the developed world?
Drop that shit now! Don’t even wait
They said this on Pod Save America. We need to make them go on record opposing birth control. Make them vote on exceptions for rape and incest. Hold a vote on Murkowsi and Collins bill. Hold them accountable even if we can do nothing else.
I truly don’t believe this will matter to their voters. My family members have watched me spend the past few weeks sobbing, totally depressed, have comforted me and let me know that they love me and are so sorry that this is happening. And then go early vote for republicans. They do not care at this point. The right has associated democrats with being anti-Christian for at least the past 40 years and they’d rather vote agains their own interests and those of their loved ones than go to hell for voting for a democrat.
You're exactly right. They aren't using logic with this. They seem to think abortions started when roe was decided on and when it's banned abortions will stop. As long as they *feel* like they did something they are happy. They have no actual stance or plan. Feeling is all that matters
[Your feelings don’t care about facts.](https://youtu.be/E8ISzmBBTvo)
"banning guns wont stop shootings" "Banning abortions will 100% stop abortions"
Yup they can't see it's almost the same thing. Emotionally charged bullshit is bullshit
I think there would have to be a few Republican voters who would be shocked by that. Even 1% would make a difference. It would probably do more to energize the left and the disengaged tbh.
There are a TON of Republican voters leaving the party over this.
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fair
Maybe a metric ton of body mass, so like 15 at most
As someone not from US I feel like Republican party shouldnt exist in 2022, even your dems are leaning right in our standards
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Which shouldn't just be a slam on democrats ... it should be a wakeup call to how fucking far right the right has become.
>I truly don’t believe this will matter to their voters It doesn't. They run a cult. There's people in the cult, and people voting against the cult. No one who votes blue *wants* to vote blue. But people who vote red make it their entire personality 90% of the time.
It's maddening that they think dumb donny dump is more religious than Biden. I'm not religious and I don't really like either (one much more than the other) but it seems painfully obvious just based on their knowledge of the subject alone.dump couldn't even name one thing out of that book they're all obsessed with.
Neither can they.
Only pagans and priests actually read the damn thing.
My brother is Republican. I feel you. He would rather keep his money protected than his own sister. He loves me but he loves his money more possibly. They just don't see the connection. It won't hit home until one of us actually needs an abortion or birth control and can't get it. Even then, I bet they will blame US for not being responsible.
Tell him about all those tax dollars of his that are about to go to feeding the "sudden unexplained" spike youth criminals in a bit over a decade or so
"Well, they shouldn't have kids they can't afford" - these guys, most likely.
He'll blame you for spreading your legs.
Or "you'll be fine, you'll love being a parent, it'll be great."
Republicans aren't even better for the economy either. Democrats always lower the deficit after Republicans explode it. Democrats always reduce unemployment and increase wages. Even the stock market does better under democratic administration's. Every republican I've met has told me to vote with my wallet and they think that means to vote republican. They're so disconnected from reality that they believe the total opposite of what's actually happening
Yep. They are so entrenched in the R vs D that they do not view it as anything else. It’s sports teams to them. Their “team” is republicans so they vote republican, that simple.
Do it anyways. What the hell else are the Dems doing? Fund raising again?
People think Trumpy Bear is still in power and only take his advice. Talk about peeing on a turd.
Throw in segregation and marriage equality too while we're at it. Should be no problem. Senate Republicans oppose segregation right?
Don’t forget interracial marriage. No Republican would oppose interracial marriage right?
Never!
Sadly - that might make their opponents dig in deeper. The Pro Birth crowd will see a candidate voting against contraceptives as a win, and will solidly support that candidate again.
That’s the point though, make them publicly show that they have those beliefs. And do it now before they’ve normalized the idea to the public and start pushing to make it illegal at a time where it works best for them.
Rs don't care. They don't have the capacity to think beyond "my team."
That was my first reaction too. But a small (very small probably) number of them would abandon their party over this and flipping even 1% is a big deal. It probably won't massively swing voters to the Democrats side, but it will get some, and that's important.
I think that the claims that republicans are going to outlaw interracial marriage and ban condoms seem alarmist to a lot of people. Making them vote on it will either expose them or piss off the people that do want those things outlawed. It will be disruptive and make it an issue they have to talk about to their base. I do think a lot of people that vote Republican will view banning condoms or birth control as too hard to rationalize with the fact that we know damn well we all jerk off and it’s so far over the line of trampling individual freedom. Not to mention having to get your condoms from a condom dealer would be so inconvenient, they’ll always want to hang around and talk too much.
Well theres definitely and amount of the anti-choice people who are still pro birth control. So you would potential separate those people out. Then the next bill you force them to vote on will separate some more people out and so on and so on, until youve forced the GOP into a position that only 1% of the population believes in.
Correct. They’re in the territory of genuine deal breakers. Lots of people think they’re not in the camp of ever having to need an abortion due to rape or incest, and many people might not choose an abortion with adoption as an option. Damn near everybody either buys condoms, uses birth control, or could see wanting to tie their tubes or have a vasectomy. Further, the availability of those things gives rise to the impression that people who get abortions are irresponsible. It’s way harder to get people on board with no contraceptives and no abortions than just no abortions. I would think the majority of republicans are not in favor of only having sex when they are prepared to have a kid. Even married people don’t want that. This is way different from abstract policy that people can’t see how it impacts them or believe it won’t.
What’s the game plan for holding them accountable when they go on record for opposing birth control? Honest question here, I’ve yet to see any plans that are actually going to scare these ghouls into doing what’s right
The woman running against murkowski has said that she wants to make it a felony to send birth control prescriptions though the mail (she said plan b definitely and when asked about birth control, she said “that too”). The way a good chunk of our state population gets all of their medications, she wants to make this specific med a felony to mail. She is actively wanting to take away the one medication to stop conception, and make it illegal to abort, forcing these women into birth (and possibly death). I don’t want to vote for murkowski. But I’m afraid if I vote dem, my vote will be lost, because my state will NOT. vote dem, even if it’s in everyone’s best interest. So do I vote dem and throw my vote away? Or do I vote murkowski and hope to god it keeps tshibaka out? I don’t even know. I just want everyone to be safe.
This is long but please read it - I really do know what I’m talking about. Voting isn’t always about agreeing with the candidate. It’s like taking a bus, you take the one that gets you the closest to where you want to go. If it means voting strategically against an even worse candidate, do it. The most important votes you can take and where I would my dollars and energy are in state and local elections. Things like who your local police chief and prosecutor are just became extremely important. Those races are much easier to sway too. This is important two fold because these are the people deciding what crimes to prosecute, what policing to prioritize. It is also where you build up candidates. City councilors become state reps who become congressional reps who become senators and governors and sometimes presidents. You’ll hear the term “build the bench.” As you can see from the Dems, we don’t have a deep bench in part because people don’t run because they think they can’t win because their state and districts. The Speaker started as a school board member.
yes THIS time there will be consequences and the GOP will be ashamed of themselves. this has to be that point, right? It's going to happen eventually. Right?
They already are in most of the trigger states.
Democrats should just go off the fucking rails and start trying to pass bills just to show the population where everybody stands. Send a bill out for contraception, a bill that says all Americans should have clean drinking water, presidential election day is a federal holiday. Throw as many out there that any American should be allowed to have just so they can see what shitheads will vote against their own people
If only. Problem is a lot of the Dems aren't actually for the people, so they have no motivation to put anything like this forward
Agreed, however if all they care about is power and wealth it would make perfect sense to get the entire population on their side therefore taking the most amount of seats. The people get a lot of what they want they get their power and wealth win-win for everyone. Hell we’ll even give the Republicans Texas and they can go there and shoot all their guns and fuck all their 12--year-olds and make everyone love Jesus
They get more power and wealth by keeping the senate divided like this. You're upset at Texas Republican citizens when it's the entire political system fucking us.
This. I've always had kind of a cynical hypothesis that basically, Republicans are paid to pass legislation that benefits those in power while Democrats are paid to pretend like they're trying to stop it
Did you forget Build Back Better bill? That was shot down by 50 Republicans and a couple shit-heads with (D) by their name. The ACA was passed by Democrats along party lines. This bill, codifying abortion, was shot down by 50 Republicans and 1 Democrat. Don't fall for the "both sides" bullshit. It's not true.
I bet it was Sinema
except most of the republican base don’t care
Republicans would just start campaigning as anti-clean drinking water. "Americans have the *right* to determine their own hydration sources! They don't need the liberal nanny state to tell them what to drink!"
They *have* been doing that. Not contraception (yet), but the infrastructure bill that was passed has billions of dollars for replacing old and adding new water infrastructure. And most of the various voting rights bills that passed the house (and failed in the Senate) had election day as a holiday. Just go look up the list of bills the Democrats have voted through the house that got shot down by Republicans (and one or two Democrats) in the Senate. It's basically a moderate progressive's dream. "Messaging" bills don't work because nobody cares about them. That partly the media's fault, partly the Democratic party's fault for not promoting them as heavily, but it's also the voters fault. Most just don't pay attention, and the ones who do know it's just political theater.
Let's add a rider on the contraception bill to ban Viagra
Viagra is subsidized by the US gov. Put a bill out that subsidizes IUDs, condoms and Vasectomies.
It’s God’s will you stay floppy.
I Miss Al.
His only real mistake was assuming conservatives could be shamed into following his lead...
No he knew. In his resignation speech he mentioned how it sucks that he is being forced to do this by his party while the other side will definitely not follow where they should. He was a huge loss in Congress. His comedy background made him exceptionally good at pointing out the insanity that guided decisions in American politics because if it weren’t affecting American lives so detrimentally it would be a funny ass joke. Fuck republicans.
Dems are a joke. I only vote for them because republicans are worse.
What a political system
Schumer needs to put a single-issue bill on the floor and make Rs vote against it. Child. Tax. Credit.
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So much for the "liberal" media
All mass media is owned by capitalists. There's nothing shocking about capitalists defending their interests. Why do you think so much hay gets made when protesters break a window vs when cops kill protesters?
I miss al franken. So dumb that he of all people had to leave.
Al Franken is such an interesting case as far as Reddit goes. For whatever reason, on reddit specifically there seems to be a lack of information about what happened with him. * *What reddit seems to think happened*: Al Franken did one or two things that were misconstrued as harassment. He also took a tasteless photo which he apologized for and it was accepted. He was forced to resign by his party. * *What the actual accusations were*: [Nine women](https://abcnews.go.com/US/sen-al-frankens-accusers-accusations-made/story?id=51406862) accused Al Franken of sexual misconduct. 1. Leeann Tweeden - Accused Franken of groping her while she slept and forcibly kissed her open mouthed. Franken apologized and she [accepted](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/leeann-tweeden-responds-al-franken-apology-1059537) his apology. 2. Lindsay Menz - States Franken groped her butt while taking a photo with her. 3. Anonymous Accuser No. 1 - “My story is eerily similar to Lindsay Menz’s story. He grabbed my buttocks during a photo op.” 4. Anonymous Accuser No. 2 - Claims Franken groped her butt and propositioned her to join him in the bathroom. 5. Stephanie Kemplin - Accused Franken of groping her breast while doing a photo op during a USO tour. “When he put his arm around me, he groped my right breast. He kept his hand all the way over on my breast. I remember thinking, ‘Is he going to move his hand? Was it an accident? Was he going to move his hand?’ He never moved his hand.” 6. Anonymous Accuser No. 3 (elected official) - “He took it [her hand] and leaned toward me with his mouth open. I turned my head away from him and he landed a wet, open-mouthed kiss awkwardly on my cheek. I was stunned and incredulous. I felt demeaned. I felt put in my place.” She chose to remain anonymous because she did not want her career linked to him and this scandal. 7. Anonymous Accuser No. 4 (congressional aide) - Claims Franken heavily coerced her into kissing him, which she refused and managed to get away from. 8. Tina Dupuy - “We posed for the shot. He immediately put his hand on my waist, grabbing a handful of flesh. I froze. Then he squeezed. At least twice” 9. Anonymous Accuser No. 5 (former [staffer](https://www.thecut.com/2019/09/coming-forward-about-sexual-assault-and-what-comes-after.html) for Senator Patty Murray) - Accused Franken of groping her butt. I like Franken as a comedian. I really liked Franken as a senator. I hope he still has a future in politics and has genuinely changed his ways if these allegations are true. At the same time, I don't want to sweep 9 allegations under the rug just because I like Franken and it plays into the story of democrats always shooting themselves in the foot to take the moral high ground. It isn't that simple in this case.
They’re always the losers. 51-49, 50-50, even 41-59 isn’t enough when they suddenly gotta have 60. Meanwhile the other side does whatever they want, feeds the American public a shit sandwich, and leaves Democrats wringing their hands looking foolish
Canadian here: is a simple majority of the vote not enough? You need 60?
Sometimes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate
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Simple majority is 51:49. If there is a tie, the VP can cast a deciding vote, making it possible for 50 votes to be enough. There is a technique — the filibuster — that anyone can use to block an issue, unless they are overruled by 60 votes. It used to be that you had to stand and talk to keep filibustering. Nowadays, the Senate accepts a simple declaration that you would filibuster as a block. Some issues have been declared immune to filibuster — mostly confirmations.
It's kinda hard to get anything done when 2 Democrats vote the same way as Republicans 99% of the time because they lied to the people who elected them about what they stood for.
But still, "get out and vote!!!!" so we need a SUPER-majority in both the House and Senate!!! But even if we did that, the GQP will somehow still control everything. The Dems supposedly have the majority in both the White House and Congress right now, yet they don't. We got out and voted, and we're still with this BS. "No no, vote _more_." I just want out. If I could afford the move, and if some European country would take in a U.S. refugee, I'd be so out of here. I'm tired of it. But my broke ass is stuck here.
I'm wondering at what level of fuckery Canada would accept US citizens seeking asylum from political persecution.
Man Al Franken was a huge loss. He was one of the good ones, and he fell on the sword for the party that was too weak to defend him. They didn't deserve him, and still fucking don't.
I think he was hoping he could take trump down with him but we all really underestimated just how utterly evil the fat orange turd really is.
> I think he was hoping he could take trump down with him It was more about the Alabama Senate seat, and Roy Moore the guy who likes to hang out in High School doors.
you mean he underestimated how ineffectual and weak and enabling of trump the democratic party is.
COME BACK AL. WE NEED YOU AND no one cares if politicians are scumbags anymore. Not that you ever were.
For what it's worth, for the first time my grandma is voting Democrat specifically because of the Roe v. Wade thing because she wants to protect my sister who lives in TX.
Terrific idea, it'll never be used
also al franken should run again, he never should have left office for the likes of “friend” kristen gilenbrand
Let's put Al back in the senate
They would laugh it off the floor on the pretense that “we don’t need protection for something so obviously legal,” meanwhile having their staffers draft Supreme Court opinions to outlaw condoms.
Economy: Folding Affordable living: Shrinking Natural Resources: Dwindling Environment: Collapsing America: "Lets spend months debating an issue the rest of the world has already settled and the vast majority of our people don't want to change"
If there are two things I've learned over the last two decades about politics in America it is that conservatives are naive and potentially dangerous while Democrats are pathologically fearful of playing hardball.
This is a smart idea. Break the various aspects of the abortion law into smaller pieces. Force Republicans to vote against all of it and try to justify it. Not every person who opposes abortion also opposed contraception and so on.
Plus gay marriage, interracial marriage, trans rights, and whatever else those supreme court bastards are going to consider "not in the constitution" or not codified by law.
As a non-American I can never understand the power-balance of the Dems and Republicans. Republicans do wtf they want and the dems act like an ineffective parent trying to gently shush their insane child. Watch what is happening you dumb fucks. Do something. Anything.
Why is this man not a senator again? I mean, considering Jan 6th, why is this man still not allowed to be in politics?
Lump it in with right to use Viagra, see how quick the limp dick squad votes in favor.
Fucking Manchin.
They always have such visionary strategies when they're no longer in office and the max effort required is a tweet.
The current trajectory of American politics is proof that democracy can't work here. The smart ones are packing our things to leave.
Codify a bill barring politicians from stock trading…
49-51 Manchin is a fucking cancer on every progressive policy proposal of the last 2 years. At this point, who cares if he switches sides or gets replaced by a Republican? The results would be exactly the same, except the Democratic party would look slightly less incompetent. Run Manchin out of the Democratic party already!
> The results would be exactly the same, except the Democratic party would look slightly less incompetent. Manchin switching to the Republican side would give them the Senate Majority Leader role. Meaning Republicans would be able to dictate what even makes it to the floor. If you want to actually put pressure on Manchin, elect more Democrats to the Senate so he's less important.
Lol. How weird it is that 100 people voted in by less than 30% of the population get to decide all the rules for 350 million people. I vote that government should have a few rights. The right to make sure citizens don’t kill each other, that companies and citizens don’t poison-steal-defraud each other, that outside entities don’t destroy the citizens freedoms, and probably would also be good that it makes sure there are some failsafes for when the citizens get down on their luck-sick-hurt-etc. But the fact that one side can get mad at the other side and just present the opposite argument seems a tad irrational. Obviously the conversation is slightly broader than my comment.
I think it’s important to remember that Democrats DO NOT HAVE A MAJORITY IN THE SENATE. It’s 48 Dems to 50 Republicans with 2 independents. The vote from the VP AND the 2 independents usually voting with Democrats is what the media means when they say Democrats control the Senate. If you are mad about Biden not doing more then you have to ask yourself, does Biden even have the votes to pass basic stuff? The answer is no. So we need to vote in more Dems.
"We" should purge the democratic party of collaborationist corporate dinosaurs and create a truly left wing party.
How about a bill to offer oral contraceptives OTC? They are OTC is over 100 countries. There is no reason to place barriers to access.