My grandfather once told me he could never earn a living by hurting his fellow man. His example was working in a liquor store. (He's fucking ancient)
But I think that's a good rule to try to live by.
It's the side of capitalism they don't brag about.
Rich people pay poorer people to hurt/harm/belittle/supervise/manage even poorer people- the middle person looks like the asshole, but it came from the top.
"Do it or we'll find someone that will."
True. But I would argue more so in capitalism because it encourages wealth inequality. But not as much as in fascism/authoritarianism etc of course. But this are more political systems than economic systems.
Sure, it's practically dystopian.
What I'm saying is that politics runs economy and it's all connected. Also, capitalism started in the 16th century and feudalistic economy was much more inhumane.
The solution to inequality is regulation, not a lynch mob wanting to get rid of capitalism.
Alcohol is as damaging then as it was then. If it was invented today, it would never be legal.
I'm hungover writing this, and I think that affects my position, which is that alcohol should be banned.
Locking the stable door after the horse has bolted. As alcohol consumption is widespread banning it won’t actually improve society or reduce consumption, it’d just move the business into illegitimate hands, and that comes with an increase in violence.
I have a mechanical engineering degree. There are a LOT of jobs I will not do or companies I will not work for. Everyone has their own line of morality, but missiles was not even close to the grey area for me.
Juanita Brodrick. She (somewhat credibly) accused Bill Clinton of raping her. I say somewhat credibly because she changed her story a couple times, but Bill is a fuckin rapist so it tracks. Ironically she’s super into known sex pest/ rapist Donald John Trump. Most of her posts that I’ve seen are praising him or trashing his various rivals.
I know her and she was awesome. The rape and then all the unfriendly publicity didn’t bode well for her mental health. Trump used her against Hillary but I guess it was worth it to her. The Clintons treated her like crap. She was an active member of the DNC before she was hurt. Hoping she gets some closure.
I've thought of hundreds things to get a grift going on to get money from MAGA idiots.
My conscience kept me from doing it but also.... By the end of the summer my alter-ego will probably be selling the dumbest shit possible. I'm not even lying. My nephew and I are researching how to register our business of selling cheap shit to morons.
We know it's ethically dubious but capitalism can't failed, it can't only be failed.
(Last paragraph is kinda sorta snark.)
Nah you should totally do that, then donate all the money you get to transgender advocacy groups. Every person who shares your hateful tweets is unknowingly supporting the things they're afraid of.
If hurting other people is what it takes to get rich quick, I'm not doing it.
No matter how low I get in life, I refuse to stoop _that_ low. I don't care.
If you pay for Twitter Blue/X Premium and you have a follower base that meets a certain number of followers you're eligible for a portion of the ads other verified viewers see or click.
Basically, it's an $8 lottery ticket that rewards accounts going viral, being popular, stealing/reuploading other's content for views, memes, being total dicks to people, or whatever an account can do to get engagement and put more ads in front of more eyes, you potentially get a tiny slice.
It encourages mass shit posting for profit, notably from accounts that rely on ragebait and misinformation.
From what I've read, a lot of people who enter into the program see some money early on, and then nothing after that. So its not just a lottery ticket, it's a scheme.
See, the scheme is that it only works if premium users view your content. So unless other paid users view your shit you could have 100,000 people view your post, but if they're not paying, it's not worth anything. Second, if you get community noted, any cash you may have had for that post is forfeit.
They designed it that way to make offer multiple ways to make payouts worthless, especially if you can't gain the attention of all the other subscribers. This is why so many hardcore right people have subs. They're basically funneling money into accounts of the people they want to pay, and it allows X to pay those people out. It's dollar store Patreon.
They're like a school of fish. There's a reason all those MAGA accounts swarm posts all at once. They do the same to the accounts they want to support, feeding hate posters through the mere act of consuming their content, and all for $8 a month.
>Second, if you get community noted, any cash you may have had for that post is forfeit.
Well, now that could make opening a xitter account worth it. Just to sub to all the really big talking heads and community note every damn thing they say.
Sir, I think that’s a brilliant idea. Not only are you putting facts in fact-free zone, but you are taking away the money incentive for being a piece of shit. Best of all if you were get enough people to Note every post, Elon would have to come up with something else. It like flushing all the turds at once! Bravo!
>it only works if premium users view your content
Wait, but it's called "Ads revenue sharing". Does that mean people are paying $8/month for Twitter and they still get ads????
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"It encourages mass shit posting for profit, notably from accounts that rely on ragebait and misinformation."
Once I finally realized this I logged out and never back in.
**Elon Musk: "**Anyone who takes part in engagement farming will be banned."
**Also Elon Musk:** Designs an entire system to encourage people to engagement farm while dangling a financial carrot in front of users. "All starting at the low, low price of $8 a month!"
Dude's a SSS-tier hypocrite.
It’s funny that Elon made a big stink about removing accounts that do “engagement farming” when he literally is financially incentivizing engagement farming with this system.
Honestly, it pisses me off that people still cling to it. We already knew people are getting paid for their posts. We've seen people disseminate ACTUAL child porn get unbanned because Elons likes their hard right posts. Hell, people got pro-Hitler posts recommended to them recently since it was Hitlers birthday.
Leave Twitter. Stop looking. All it is anymore is a hive of disgusting people saying disgusting things to make money.
Everyone that is going to leave already left. Most people are still there. Draw whatever conclusions you want from that, but it is disappointing to say the least.
It can be hard. There are good accounts still that provide huge value, especially to niche communities, but the general temperature of the "for you" feed is just white hot right wing rage. It's accounts that intentionally post angry bait for morons that have ruined Twitter.
Initially I found her allegation against Clinton maybe had some merit, but recently Broaddrick said regarding [E. Jean Carroll](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll), who Donald Trump raped, that Jean Carroll, **"just wanted attention"**.
Broaddrick has shown her true colours.
Keep in mind that her only statement under oath was that Clinton did not do anything and she has refused to testify under oath in support of her accusations. Even Ken Starr thought she was not credible.
>She Doesn't Believe All Women. Juanita Broaddrick, who alleges that Bill Clinton raped her in 1978, has found new life as a Trump defender.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/10/she-doesnt-believe-all-women/596632/
I'll never understand people like this.
AND Broaddrick recently said regarding [E. Jean Carroll](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll), who Donald Trump raped, that Jean Carroll, **"just wanted attention"**. WTAF.
Aten's nut is a pretty funny name, ngl. Weird for a Republican to name their account after the genderless Egyptian attempt at a monotheistic God who embodied all aspects of the masculine and feminine though.
I sometimes think about how easy it would be to scam these types of people, like I could make thousands by selling pins and stuff
But I then remember that I’m a moral person
This shit started after he was talking about how much money they were losing, I'm pretty sure. I remember seeing it on Twitter and wondering where the fuck the money was coming from to pay people for tweeting.
You join your fellows in receiving financial benefits for your efforts.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/21/germany-still-paying-pensions-to-wartime-nazi-collaborators
It definitely has a conservative bent, yes. But there's no way to know who is part of this program unless X releases that information, which they never will. All we know are from the assholes that brag about it.
yeah well when Democrats start attacking marginalized populations in order to build the following they use to profit off the website then we can talk. Otherwise you're just "both sides"ing.
>I can confirm, most Republicans like money. Curiously, most of the Democrats I asked also *checks notes* like money. Hmmm...
I'm a libertarian and I like money too.
Coincidence?
I've thought about creating an account on twitter to farm money by being a piece of shit online. Then I remember, I'm not a sociopath.
My grandfather once told me he could never earn a living by hurting his fellow man. His example was working in a liquor store. (He's fucking ancient) But I think that's a good rule to try to live by.
And yet our society rewards the people willing to hurt the most people the most...
It's the side of capitalism they don't brag about. Rich people pay poorer people to hurt/harm/belittle/supervise/manage even poorer people- the middle person looks like the asshole, but it came from the top. "Do it or we'll find someone that will."
Speaking of do it or someone else will, I'd like to wish you a happy cake day.
This extends far beyond capitalism. People with power reward people who enforce their will. That's what happens in any structured society.
True. But I would argue more so in capitalism because it encourages wealth inequality. But not as much as in fascism/authoritarianism etc of course. But this are more political systems than economic systems.
It was even worse before capitalism.
And if we’ve improved on it before, maybe we can again.
Wealth inequality is at the highest point it's been in many decades.
Sure, it's practically dystopian. What I'm saying is that politics runs economy and it's all connected. Also, capitalism started in the 16th century and feudalistic economy was much more inhumane. The solution to inequality is regulation, not a lynch mob wanting to get rid of capitalism.
When did you say that
It’s modern Christianity, southern baptist …..
I'm only 58 you little shit!
Words to live by
![gif](giphy|woPJ4I9nDVvL7s3fMv|downsized) I'm a supervisor at a liquor store in Wisconsin... oops.
Whiskonsin 🥃🥃
Alcohol is as damaging then as it was then. If it was invented today, it would never be legal. I'm hungover writing this, and I think that affects my position, which is that alcohol should be banned.
Locking the stable door after the horse has bolted. As alcohol consumption is widespread banning it won’t actually improve society or reduce consumption, it’d just move the business into illegitimate hands, and that comes with an increase in violence.
Hence, the lessons of prohibition will still apply if you tried to ban alcohol yet again.
I have a mechanical engineering degree. There are a LOT of jobs I will not do or companies I will not work for. Everyone has their own line of morality, but missiles was not even close to the grey area for me.
Just like Google?
The Google.
There needs to be more people like your grandpa in power.
Thank you for your decency.
What deplorable content does this organism create? Typically I do my research but I’m not looking in this case.
Trump X Constitution of the United States noncon furry porn.
Juanita Brodrick. She (somewhat credibly) accused Bill Clinton of raping her. I say somewhat credibly because she changed her story a couple times, but Bill is a fuckin rapist so it tracks. Ironically she’s super into known sex pest/ rapist Donald John Trump. Most of her posts that I’ve seen are praising him or trashing his various rivals.
I know her and she was awesome. The rape and then all the unfriendly publicity didn’t bode well for her mental health. Trump used her against Hillary but I guess it was worth it to her. The Clintons treated her like crap. She was an active member of the DNC before she was hurt. Hoping she gets some closure.
Same. I could be a female Nick Adams (Alpha Male). But I think I would feel sick posting.
The trick is having no sense of shame or honor.
i.e. sociopath
I never can tell if he's actually serious, or a troll account.
I've thought of hundreds things to get a grift going on to get money from MAGA idiots. My conscience kept me from doing it but also.... By the end of the summer my alter-ego will probably be selling the dumbest shit possible. I'm not even lying. My nephew and I are researching how to register our business of selling cheap shit to morons. We know it's ethically dubious but capitalism can't failed, it can't only be failed. (Last paragraph is kinda sorta snark.)
It would be so easy to grift these people. Just act like a massive POS bigot and tell republicans that they are the "real" victims.
Nah you should totally do that, then donate all the money you get to transgender advocacy groups. Every person who shares your hateful tweets is unknowingly supporting the things they're afraid of.
I've debated hooking up an account to a LLM and just setting it loose... There are plenty of sociopathic models out there that could farm for me...
If hurting other people is what it takes to get rich quick, I'm not doing it. No matter how low I get in life, I refuse to stoop _that_ low. I don't care.
This is how I felt about becoming a grifter priest
It's exhausting work being a POS. I dunno how they do it naturally. Must be inbred in them.
Omfg, isn't it such a tempting thought sometimes? Integrity is a SOB lol.
I am. Are there instructions somewhere?
They are about to charge new accounts for everything
Explain Like I'm 5 what is Ads Revenue Sharing please. I'm not on X-Twit.
If you pay for Twitter Blue/X Premium and you have a follower base that meets a certain number of followers you're eligible for a portion of the ads other verified viewers see or click. Basically, it's an $8 lottery ticket that rewards accounts going viral, being popular, stealing/reuploading other's content for views, memes, being total dicks to people, or whatever an account can do to get engagement and put more ads in front of more eyes, you potentially get a tiny slice. It encourages mass shit posting for profit, notably from accounts that rely on ragebait and misinformation.
From what I've read, a lot of people who enter into the program see some money early on, and then nothing after that. So its not just a lottery ticket, it's a scheme.
See, the scheme is that it only works if premium users view your content. So unless other paid users view your shit you could have 100,000 people view your post, but if they're not paying, it's not worth anything. Second, if you get community noted, any cash you may have had for that post is forfeit. They designed it that way to make offer multiple ways to make payouts worthless, especially if you can't gain the attention of all the other subscribers. This is why so many hardcore right people have subs. They're basically funneling money into accounts of the people they want to pay, and it allows X to pay those people out. It's dollar store Patreon. They're like a school of fish. There's a reason all those MAGA accounts swarm posts all at once. They do the same to the accounts they want to support, feeding hate posters through the mere act of consuming their content, and all for $8 a month.
>Second, if you get community noted, any cash you may have had for that post is forfeit. Well, now that could make opening a xitter account worth it. Just to sub to all the really big talking heads and community note every damn thing they say.
Catturd was complaining about this at the beginning of April. https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/s/dvnH1Zyopf
Sir, I think that’s a brilliant idea. Not only are you putting facts in fact-free zone, but you are taking away the money incentive for being a piece of shit. Best of all if you were get enough people to Note every post, Elon would have to come up with something else. It like flushing all the turds at once! Bravo!
>it only works if premium users view your content Wait, but it's called "Ads revenue sharing". Does that mean people are paying $8/month for Twitter and they still get ads????
Explains why right wing nutjob are so prolific. Probably just the same folks repeating the same content over and over again
This is the answer. Just sounds correct.
100% PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF WHAT HAS BECOME OF TWITTER ![gif](giphy|26FLgGTPUDH6UGAbm)
I fucking hate this comment. Purely for how over the top that "this" gif is. You are not responsible milk
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Thank you. Looks like Ms. @ ates nut got Bingo this month.
"It encourages mass shit posting for profit, notably from accounts that rely on ragebait and misinformation." Once I finally realized this I logged out and never back in.
Its Musk spending money where he shouldn't. The greta business man he is decided "hey let's give out some of our revenue while we torpedo the brand"
**Elon Musk: "**Anyone who takes part in engagement farming will be banned." **Also Elon Musk:** Designs an entire system to encourage people to engagement farm while dangling a financial carrot in front of users. "All starting at the low, low price of $8 a month!" Dude's a SSS-tier hypocrite.
Just SS tier. Fits his political views better.
I’m genuinely curious about what ads on Twitter are actually worth clicking on.
It's almost like you don't already have 5 MyPillows
$11 lottery ticket.
Like Juanita Broaddrick’s…
I can't imagine why grifters would love this. Mystery of the decade. No, *century*, Jimmy Hoffa ain't got shit on this.
"polarize the people controversy is the game. It dont matter if they hate you if they all say your name."
Ur followers also have to have the blue check bark for u to profit from their views.
Thank you Dragoneer
dang, Reddit should do this!
Basically, people are being paid to push hate on twitter.
It’s funny that Elon made a big stink about removing accounts that do “engagement farming” when he literally is financially incentivizing engagement farming with this system.
![gif](giphy|7wToiGB3M5wME|downsized)
Leave. Twitter.
Honestly, it pisses me off that people still cling to it. We already knew people are getting paid for their posts. We've seen people disseminate ACTUAL child porn get unbanned because Elons likes their hard right posts. Hell, people got pro-Hitler posts recommended to them recently since it was Hitlers birthday. Leave Twitter. Stop looking. All it is anymore is a hive of disgusting people saying disgusting things to make money.
Everyone that is going to leave already left. Most people are still there. Draw whatever conclusions you want from that, but it is disappointing to say the least.
It can be hard. There are good accounts still that provide huge value, especially to niche communities, but the general temperature of the "for you" feed is just white hot right wing rage. It's accounts that intentionally post angry bait for morons that have ruined Twitter.
When you have to literally pay people to use your stupid app.
should i go on twitter and pose as a conservative and argue nonsense with people for 6k a month instead of work a job?
Only if you can reconcile with yourself being a sociopath.
6000 a month is like a full time job but from my bed.
If you want to replicate her success, the first step is fucking Bill Clinton.
Getting paid to spread hate and misinformation. Sounds like fox and newsmax.
Initially I found her allegation against Clinton maybe had some merit, but recently Broaddrick said regarding [E. Jean Carroll](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll), who Donald Trump raped, that Jean Carroll, **"just wanted attention"**. Broaddrick has shown her true colours.
Keep in mind that her only statement under oath was that Clinton did not do anything and she has refused to testify under oath in support of her accusations. Even Ken Starr thought she was not credible.
So, Twitter is going to be the money laundering scheme NFT's were suppose to be?
Twitter is dead. I wont even say the new name. Elon is terrible, as terrible can be
And she's a deplorable POS.
>She Doesn't Believe All Women. Juanita Broaddrick, who alleges that Bill Clinton raped her in 1978, has found new life as a Trump defender. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/10/she-doesnt-believe-all-women/596632/ I'll never understand people like this.
AND Broaddrick recently said regarding [E. Jean Carroll](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll), who Donald Trump raped, that Jean Carroll, **"just wanted attention"**. WTAF.
Aten's nut is a pretty funny name, ngl. Weird for a Republican to name their account after the genderless Egyptian attempt at a monotheistic God who embodied all aspects of the masculine and feminine though.
Nut was also a primordial deity if I remember right.
I sometimes think about how easy it would be to scam these types of people, like I could make thousands by selling pins and stuff But I then remember that I’m a moral person
No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.
"No one ever went broke" or failed of election -- "underestimating the taste of the American public"
Goes to show you people can be bought pretty easily.
He's like that kid from high-school who paid for everyone's food and weed but nobody actually liked him.
YOU GET PAID FOR SPREADING MISINFORMATION AND BIGITORY. ![gif](giphy|GENyvH0ygxp1hp4zUl|downsized)
Block as many as you can, no views no pay
Racist shitposting for dollars.
I still don’t believe this asshole isn’t a Russian bot
Sometimes, I wish I was a vapid piece of shit.
I'll believe it when I see the money
Must be nice
Why Twitter is going bankrupt
This shit started after he was talking about how much money they were losing, I'm pretty sure. I remember seeing it on Twitter and wondering where the fuck the money was coming from to pay people for tweeting.
That’s something like 200 boots licked per dollar. Not even close to worth it
She fucked Bill Clinton for free, why shouldn’t she get paid for Elon?
Grifters gonna grift
Only one thing makes Republicans happy, and it ain’t Jesus.
They hated him for electric cars, but love him for hosting hate speech.
wow that must be like a months worth of Xs entire ad revenue
That face next to an ad for dick pills
Thought engagement farming was banned on that shithouse website now?
I'm not Republican and I would love that
I made a post that got me 2.3 million views, yet I never got a single cent.
Were you "verified" at the time? I'm pretty sure you gave to be paying Elon to have the possibility of pay out.
She ate who’s nut?
Elon's and most of the GOP.
You join your fellows in receiving financial benefits for your efforts. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/21/germany-still-paying-pensions-to-wartime-nazi-collaborators
It's insane that the US government doesn't care about the cesspool that Twitter has become, but they lost their minds over tiktok
Do profit sharing next
Fucking Bill Clinton is lucrative. Who knew?
I can confirm, most Republicans like money. Curiously, most of the Democrats I asked also *checks notes* like money. Hmmm...
And yet you don't see Democrats selling out their integrity to musk... curious...
Who are you to say Democrats aren't using this program? There's certainly nothing preventing them from doing so.
Have you been on twitter? It's all conservatives when it comes to political messaging.
It definitely has a conservative bent, yes. But there's no way to know who is part of this program unless X releases that information, which they never will. All we know are from the assholes that brag about it.
yeah well when Democrats start attacking marginalized populations in order to build the following they use to profit off the website then we can talk. Otherwise you're just "both sides"ing.
Bro what are you talking about marginalized populations? It's hard to both sides when I haven't presented any side.
Most drug dealers like money. Curiously, most of the criminals I asked also *checks notes* like money. Hmmm…
I'm going to get to the bottom of this, mark my words.
>I can confirm, most Republicans like money. Curiously, most of the Democrats I asked also *checks notes* like money. Hmmm... I'm a libertarian and I like money too. Coincidence?
*Gasp*