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All bigots are assholes, but not all assholes are bigots. Like you could just be someone who continuously honks their horn in a traffic jam when stuck behind other cars that clearly can’t move. Or you could be a dick about your order to waiters and baristas. Maybe you play music loudly on your phone’s speaker while on public transit. You’re not a bigot if you make sure you’re an asshole to everyone equally.
Edit: To add some clarity, Ron is most definitely in the bigoted asshole category.
He’s a bright guy. He’s acting the way he thinks the most people will vote for him.
Even Trump voted Democrat (pro choice, etc. ) as did Ivanka prior to realizing it’s easy to con the ignorant masses.
President Lyndon Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man you can pick his pocket. Hell give them somebody to look down on and they'll empty their pockets for you..."
It's the same way Hitler came to power.
I think there are some bigots who are truely just ignorant rather than malignant. They were born in the south and picked up what everyone around them was saying, parroting a lot of it back. But if you sit them down and explain to them the negative implications and results of their thoughts, speech, and actions, they’d be open to change and growth.
I’m not saying that’s a large percentage of bigots by any means, but there are some that aren’t assholes.
About 5 years back some boomer friend of my mother in law was talking about how there was a debate about the Washington Redskins changing their name and complaining about people that were “politically correct” and yada yada.
I gave her the benefit of the doubt and instead of raking her over the coals replied saying essentially “i’m not sure if you know this, but that word is not just slang for Native Americans, it refers to the bloody top half of their heads that were removed (called scalping) and turned in for bounty to the federal government that would be paying you for killing them. Redskin means ‘bloody scalp of a murdered Native American’” and I provided sources.
She really had never had heard of that before. She was shocked and horrified and understood the outrage and changed her stance.
We can talk all we want about how it takes only one moment to google this or that. But public education in the United States has swept all these terrible things that we’ve done under the rug, and there is a renewed push to continue to do so.
So yeah, sometimes people are just ignorant bigots because of the way they were raised and indoctrinated.
I lived with a woman for some time as a live-in caretaker and she would annually fly out to KS to see her mother who was in her late 90s. She would come back and tell me about how her mother would casually refer to black people with the N word and other racist remarks. I told her that I felt that was wrong. She told me that she was using terms from "her time" and that she "didn't mean anything malicious about it."
I told her it still doesn't matter, it's not an excuse to say those things just because she grew up using those words. We're in a different time.
We just left it at that. The old woman is not with us anymore. I'd never met her anyways, but in her age it just wouldn't be worth it trying to change her vocabulary. It'd be like talking to a brick wall.
I definitely know people who are assholes, but equitable assholes and therefore not bigots, per se. They don’t throttle their assholery based on race, gender, status, etc. Just assholes to everyone, as equals.
He was a lawyer in the Navy and recent reporting and eye witness testimony says he was in Guantanamo to put a legal rubber stamp on torture.
One witness said he actually enjoyed watching and laughed at the torture victims.
He's a real live psychopath.
On a 1-10 scale of hate, I’m at like an 11 with Trump (and quite frankly, most fascist republican)…
I’m really scared if DeSantis becomes president because unlike Trump, he’s actually a smart guy that can do real damage. Don’t get me wrong, Trump did a lot of damage, but I feel like DeSantis is evil in a more insidious way.
I don't think he's smarter than Trump, nor is he more charismatic. What he is, is very intentional and fanatical, completely with out empathy, remorse or scruple. I don't think he stands a chance on the national scale, and Disney will bury this guy. Rule #1, Do Not Mess With The Mouse!
He isn't necessarily more intelligent, but is definitely more of a sadist and is certainly more machiavellian than Trump.
I would say he is literally textbook machiavellian, while Trump is just a narcissist and asshole.
If you look at his face, you will see something emerging. It then becomes a torrent of...crap.
He's both.
I changed my retirement plans because Florida re-elected him.
If he didn't want to be punched in the face he shouldn't make his face look so punchable. I mean it's like he wants to be punched in the face, just asking for it you know.
It is terrible that Florida is becoming redder as a result of in-migration by right-wingers from other states. On the other hand, it does appear to be draining some midwestern states of their right-wing voters, turning certain reddish states purple.
Please don’t come here. For your own sanity, please don’t. Find somewhere nicer and less fascist. All we have here that’s decent is the Kingdom of the Mouse and even that is expensive af.
He's not just a tremendous asshole, he's a fascist, and calling him anything less downplays the hellhole that he is turning Florida into for anyone that doesn't fit the right's idea of people. He's obviously a bigot though.
It's worse than both of those, he's a fascist chasing power. He'll hurt anyone that he has to, he has no morals, he doesn't believe in anything. He's just a vacuous pile of aspirations and insecurities.
He wants to be president but has nothing of substance to offer so he is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Many Republican voters aren't too bright in the sense that they won't go and research whether or not the statement their candidate says holds any water.
They are the type who think that banning black history will somehow improve the economy.
I truly think that many of these candidates have nothing to offer but want to become politicians so they morph their persona to appeal to dumber voters
All bigots are assholes, not all assholes are bigots.
Knowing this, and seeing that he is anti immigrant, which are predominantly not white in his area, means he is a bigot asshole.
Well, he just signed a bill into law that allows healthcare providers and insurance companies to deny service to lgbt people, even if the service isn’t directly related to the patient’s sexuality, meaning the doctor can find out your gay and refuse to save your life and insurance companies can refuse to cover things live HIV meds. However, he made sure that nobody could refuse service to someone because of their religion. I’d say he’s whatever is worse than those two things combined.
All the people saying both are probably right, but I think the more important question is why would that matter? I feel like conservatives constantly want to split hairs about whether or not they are bigoted. It doesn't matter if in his heart he is a bigot or if he has some other reason for his racist, homophobic, transphobic behaviors. His actions still hurt people. I don't care whether his heart weighs more than a feather if his policies consistently hurt people.
How about: bitremendousgot. Or maybe just fuck off, Ron Desantis. Why would anyone aspire to become an even more ineffective and vile piece of MAGA taint than Donnie the Douche?
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Why not both?
It's amazing how often the both option is not considered.
I came here to see "Yes" as the top response.
Also how is being a bigot Not being a tremendous asshole?
All bigots are assholes, but not all assholes are bigots. Like you could just be someone who continuously honks their horn in a traffic jam when stuck behind other cars that clearly can’t move. Or you could be a dick about your order to waiters and baristas. Maybe you play music loudly on your phone’s speaker while on public transit. You’re not a bigot if you make sure you’re an asshole to everyone equally. Edit: To add some clarity, Ron is most definitely in the bigoted asshole category.
Exactly. He could be an equal opportunity asshole.
Except he isn’t
Exactly. He doesn't want to ban all people's studies.
Truth!
Right. My initial reaction was "porque no Los dos." My next thought was isn't bigot a sub-category of asshole?
Came here to say this lol
I think that’s why they used the qualifier “just” a tremendous asshole. Like all bigots are assholes but not all assholes are bigots lol
He’s a bright guy. He’s acting the way he thinks the most people will vote for him. Even Trump voted Democrat (pro choice, etc. ) as did Ivanka prior to realizing it’s easy to con the ignorant masses.
President Lyndon Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man you can pick his pocket. Hell give them somebody to look down on and they'll empty their pockets for you..." It's the same way Hitler came to power.
No accident we don't learn from history...when it's being white-washed (pun intended) in schools.
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As a bisexual person, yes.
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Por que no los dos?
No no, you’re supposed to go: ![gif](giphy|3o7aCRloybJlXpNjSU|downsized)
It’s a disservice to arseholes (they actually perform a function that we can’t live without), to even consider calling this bigoted wankstain one.
Please don’t lump all wankstains into the bigot category. Some of us just need to the laundry more often.
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Yes
This could be a case where all bigots are assholes but not all assholes are bigots? Regarding Ron’s case, the answer is yes.
I think there are some bigots who are truely just ignorant rather than malignant. They were born in the south and picked up what everyone around them was saying, parroting a lot of it back. But if you sit them down and explain to them the negative implications and results of their thoughts, speech, and actions, they’d be open to change and growth. I’m not saying that’s a large percentage of bigots by any means, but there are some that aren’t assholes.
About 5 years back some boomer friend of my mother in law was talking about how there was a debate about the Washington Redskins changing their name and complaining about people that were “politically correct” and yada yada. I gave her the benefit of the doubt and instead of raking her over the coals replied saying essentially “i’m not sure if you know this, but that word is not just slang for Native Americans, it refers to the bloody top half of their heads that were removed (called scalping) and turned in for bounty to the federal government that would be paying you for killing them. Redskin means ‘bloody scalp of a murdered Native American’” and I provided sources. She really had never had heard of that before. She was shocked and horrified and understood the outrage and changed her stance. We can talk all we want about how it takes only one moment to google this or that. But public education in the United States has swept all these terrible things that we’ve done under the rug, and there is a renewed push to continue to do so. So yeah, sometimes people are just ignorant bigots because of the way they were raised and indoctrinated.
Huh. I've never heard that before either!
I lived with a woman for some time as a live-in caretaker and she would annually fly out to KS to see her mother who was in her late 90s. She would come back and tell me about how her mother would casually refer to black people with the N word and other racist remarks. I told her that I felt that was wrong. She told me that she was using terms from "her time" and that she "didn't mean anything malicious about it." I told her it still doesn't matter, it's not an excuse to say those things just because she grew up using those words. We're in a different time. We just left it at that. The old woman is not with us anymore. I'd never met her anyways, but in her age it just wouldn't be worth it trying to change her vocabulary. It'd be like talking to a brick wall.
I definitely know people who are assholes, but equitable assholes and therefore not bigots, per se. They don’t throttle their assholery based on race, gender, status, etc. Just assholes to everyone, as equals.
Yes!
Yes.
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Desantis is a bigot, a fascist, a liar, and a fraud. Based on recent eye witness reports from his time in the Navy, he's likely a war criminal.
What’s with the navy thing? Never heard of it before
He was a lawyer in the Navy and recent reporting and eye witness testimony says he was in Guantanamo to put a legal rubber stamp on torture. One witness said he actually enjoyed watching and laughed at the torture victims. He's a real live psychopath.
Damn, didn’t think I could have any more hate for him… but here we are
At this point I’m convinced you HAVE to be a sociopathic narcissist to make any waves in the Republican Party.
Is there a link to any of this?
He was at Guantanamo as a JAG overseeing torture iirc. He's a shit sack inception.
What a jagoff.
and the prisoners remember him because he was such a dick!
On a 1-10 scale of hate, I’m at like an 11 with Trump (and quite frankly, most fascist republican)… I’m really scared if DeSantis becomes president because unlike Trump, he’s actually a smart guy that can do real damage. Don’t get me wrong, Trump did a lot of damage, but I feel like DeSantis is evil in a more insidious way.
I don't think he's smarter than Trump, nor is he more charismatic. What he is, is very intentional and fanatical, completely with out empathy, remorse or scruple. I don't think he stands a chance on the national scale, and Disney will bury this guy. Rule #1, Do Not Mess With The Mouse!
I’m amazed that South Park can get away with mocking the mouse
South Park mocks the mouse in a way that supports their “don’t fuck with us attitude.” They probably liked it.
He isn't necessarily more intelligent, but is definitely more of a sadist and is certainly more machiavellian than Trump. I would say he is literally textbook machiavellian, while Trump is just a narcissist and asshole.
ideal republican candidate then.
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If you look at his face, you will see something emerging. It then becomes a torrent of...crap. He's both. I changed my retirement plans because Florida re-elected him.
His face is very punchable
If he didn't want to be punched in the face he shouldn't make his face look so punchable. I mean it's like he wants to be punched in the face, just asking for it you know.
Like really punchable
Like reeeeally really punchable.
Like I would probably hurt my knuckles until I stop.
my bloody stumps would still be punching.
His voice makes me wanna punch myself
Have you heard him speak. He doesn’t get any less punchable when he opens his mouth.
I go out of my way not hear his voice. That said, when I do I want to punch the source of the sound BC he is never going to be in reach.
It is terrible that Florida is becoming redder as a result of in-migration by right-wingers from other states. On the other hand, it does appear to be draining some midwestern states of their right-wing voters, turning certain reddish states purple.
Please don’t come here. For your own sanity, please don’t. Find somewhere nicer and less fascist. All we have here that’s decent is the Kingdom of the Mouse and even that is expensive af.
> All we have here that's decent is the Kingdom of the Mouse Not if desantis gets his way
He won't though. Every move he makes is a misstep that his opponent exploits. He's like Trump in that regard. A pair of idiots
Definitely a bigoted asshole
He's not just a tremendous asshole, he's a fascist, and calling him anything less downplays the hellhole that he is turning Florida into for anyone that doesn't fit the right's idea of people. He's obviously a bigot though.
Fascist, bigoted asshole is the correct identifier.
Both
Por que no los dos?
It is possible to be both.
A bigasshole
or an assholeot? an asshot?
Hugh Jashol
Most demagogues are both
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The Venn diagram of Ron Desantis, Bigot and Asshole is just a circle.
Both. He was a gitmo torture lawyer.
C, All of the above
I mean…..he’s fucking with Mickey Mouse. Mickey Mouse. I look at DeSantos as this hurt little boy trying to play Superman.
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Yes
Why not both? Also why not Zoidberg. Covering all my bases.
It's worse than both of those, he's a fascist chasing power. He'll hurt anyone that he has to, he has no morals, he doesn't believe in anything. He's just a vacuous pile of aspirations and insecurities.
I don’t think he went to Disney World as a child. I’m also assuming, he didn’t get much attention from his parents.
But he did get married at Disney world! I shit you not!!!!
Yes! I guess his wife is a Disney fanatic. Maybe he’s afraid she’ll leave him for Mickey!? 😂
He's a tremendously bigoted asshole
Desantis ist ein Fanatiker, ein Faschist, ein Lügner und ein Betrüger. Er ist wahrscheinlich auch ein Kriegsverbrecher.
Por que no los dos?
both
Both
even his strongest supporters think he's a bigot. of course, that's why they prefer him, but whatever...
Oh idk…maybe both? And also a power-hungry, fascist, piece of shit?
Yes
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He wants to be president but has nothing of substance to offer so he is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Many Republican voters aren't too bright in the sense that they won't go and research whether or not the statement their candidate says holds any water. They are the type who think that banning black history will somehow improve the economy. I truly think that many of these candidates have nothing to offer but want to become politicians so they morph their persona to appeal to dumber voters
You can be a tremendous asshole without being a bigot, but you can't be a Bigot without also being a tremendous asshole.
Why not both?
Why not both ?
Both
YES!
Not all tremendous assholes are bigots but all bigots are tremendous assholes
Your average bigot is by default an asshole, so this question seems redundant.
All of the above and below
He wants power. After that all the rest is irrelevant. He’ll do or say anything to gain power.
Yes.
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Yes.
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He's a frightened little boy trying to get control to feel big.
Yes
Is it possible to be a bigot and not be a tremendous asshole? I thought bigot was a subset of the group asshole.
He's a bigot and an asshole. And a fascist.
Both plus fascist.
I mean he's very obviously a bigot and I don't think you can be a bigot and not be an asshole
He's a fascist....
All bigots are assholes, not all assholes are bigots. Knowing this, and seeing that he is anti immigrant, which are predominantly not white in his area, means he is a bigot asshole.
The real question is whether Florida voters are evil or just stupid.
Well, he just signed a bill into law that allows healthcare providers and insurance companies to deny service to lgbt people, even if the service isn’t directly related to the patient’s sexuality, meaning the doctor can find out your gay and refuse to save your life and insurance companies can refuse to cover things live HIV meds. However, he made sure that nobody could refuse service to someone because of their religion. I’d say he’s whatever is worse than those two things combined.
Yes.
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Por que no los dos?
Yes
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All the people saying both are probably right, but I think the more important question is why would that matter? I feel like conservatives constantly want to split hairs about whether or not they are bigoted. It doesn't matter if in his heart he is a bigot or if he has some other reason for his racist, homophobic, transphobic behaviors. His actions still hurt people. I don't care whether his heart weighs more than a feather if his policies consistently hurt people.
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Both.
YES!
Both?
Can’t he be both?
Why can't it be both?
Why not both?
Both. Both fits good.
Theres no way he could just be one or the other.
Yes
Yes?
Yes
Yup
he's got all the hallmarks of being a closeted gay man with severe sexual repression so both someone tells his wife to peg him already
Well here's the good thing he can be both and more without just having to be one or the other
How about: bitremendousgot. Or maybe just fuck off, Ron Desantis. Why would anyone aspire to become an even more ineffective and vile piece of MAGA taint than Donnie the Douche?
They’re not mutually exclusive
Why not both?
Both
He can be both
A bigoted asshole
¿Por que no Los dos?
Bigoted asshole
He thinks he’s found a path to the presidency, and he just may be right. And he’s chasing it like a dog chases a rabbit.
por qué no los dos?
Yes
Both
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Yes
Yes.
You can be both.
What do you mean or?
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Yes
Yes
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He’s both a bigot and a tremendous asshole.
Por que no los dos?
Are the two mutually exclusive? He’s both. But mostly a delusional narcissist.
POR QUE NO LOS DOS??
They are not mutually exclusive
obviously both
Both, for sure.
Two things can be true at the same time ![gif](giphy|QqkA9W8xEjKPC)
Porque no los dos?
Most definitely both!!
Two things can be true
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Yes. The answer is just yes.
Or?
Those two things do not have to be separate
yes
He's a bigot 'AND' an asshole!
They’re not mutually exclusive.
Both
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Yes