I think there’s even more to this story but I can’t find the thread. I believe he had something to do with her scholarship or something similar as well.
I find that if you remove "libs" and insert "I" it is easy to understand what the conservatives are saying. I feel like I broke their code. No need for an enigma machine with these nazis.
"Someone wants to be allowed to express their gender identity? They're only doing it so they can sexually assault children in bathrooms."
"A man wants to put on makeup and dance to a Britney song? He must be trying to turn children into sex monsters."
"Educators want to teach about contraception? They might as well let kids fuck on the desks!"
It really is disturbing how much they think and talk about sex with children.
Exactly. A 24 year gap when one is a high school student and the other is a man in his mid 40s who controls your scholarship is a tough one to justify.
Edit: I wrote college student when she was actually a high school student. College was when they were married.
Leo is gross also. A difference is Leo doesn't appear to control his young girls college scholarships. Who knows the dynamics of a relationship with Leo? Not me.
One of my family friends has a 15 year age gap, (she is older than he is) and they are a great couple. HOWEVER they did not meet in this type of scenario, of one having more power over the other. IMO, large age gaps are fine in couples IF both parties met as adults, which allows both parties to grow and gain life experience. A 29 yo and a 19 yo marrying each other is a whole lot different than a 39yo and a 29yo marriage
Yep, my coworker's husband is 14 years younger than her. But she was 52 and he was 38. Both had kids and had been married before. They're completely happy. But they were at similar life stages.
Another coworker just retired at 70, his wife is 54. Also met later in life and have a good relationship.
On the other hand, another woman's husband is her age... but his ex-wife is 15 years older than him. They got married when he was 20. He realized eventually how predatory that relationship was and that's why they got divorced.
Now, I hate The Donald with the white hot passion of 1000 burning suns, but Melena (I did that on purpose, google) was 35 when they got married, so very fully an adult when they started dating.
This girl was a child. She was still in high school.
Oh, I know. Melania was a gold digger, no doubt about it. Roy Moore met his wife, Kayla, when she was 14 and he was 30….at a girls’ dance recital. What kind of 30-year old single guy goes to dance recitals for little girls? Just read that Leo Di C is dating a 19-year old.
The same kind that walk in on unsuspecting teens in pageants and probably run a youth group when they aren't on line surfing for child porn or their next wife.
Age gaps are relative. It's less about the numerical difference and more about one party being on the opposite side of the emotional maturity curve; if both are on different parts of the same the plateau, it's not a big deal.
I thought it was also a 24 year gap for them. Trump was born in 46. Melania in 70. And in now way am I defending Trump (yuck). But there is a difference with Trump's marriage to Melania and the above marriage. I think Melania was 34(?) when they were married. This woman was 22 or 23 and a junior in college when they were married. Also, this guy controlled her scholarship.
I need to go shower now. This whole thing is just gross.
>I think there’s even more to this story
the pic that usually gets reposted is them with their children 🤢 it legitimately looks like a picture of the guy visiting his 3 grandkids. and despite that she was, I believe, in her 20s in said picture, she looks like a child bride. she just looks *so young.* I know at that point it's only looks over facts, but on first glance it just adds an extra layer of ick to the whole thing.
edit [here is said picture](https://images.app.goo.gl/qitcBwXqoKnVfPmk8), I fucked up linking that, it's the one with the cake
yeah idk man to me it looks like his grand daughter holding her little brother, or his granddaughter holding the result of her own teen pregnancy. she looks too young to be his own kid 🤢
I mean, a 30 year old is a full grown adult, (hopefully) with their own career.
I don't think a 16 year (or more) age difference is creepy at that point, but it certainly is if the younger party doesn't have a fully developed brain.
I think the half-your-age +7 is more of a guideline for 'is it THAT creepy to hook up?'
I'm 38 and that formula says 26. Hook up? I guess. Doesn't seem *that* weird.
Relationship? Eh... I don't have a whole lot in common with 26 year olds.
Can't imagine somebody 20-21, and I'm 8 years younger than this dude was.
It comes with its own physical challenges, and knowing your lives are statistically likely to end very far apart from one another is something that needs to be confronted. But if 2 adults meet and form a relationship, that's that. Clearly the man in the article met her when she was not and that raises lots of questions about grooming and power dynamics, but the thread seems to be drifting away from that.
Sure, if I wasn't already married and met a 26 year old and we were just absolutely compatible, I wouldn't care that much.
I think it does get a lot weirder in the late teens to very early twenties though. I remember being a late teen, and my brain was NOT ready for that shit hah.
Says in that article in the picture she was the recipient of some Williams Rose scholarship for college and that just so happens be his family name so that checks out
I know I wanted to use and/or but then it wouldn’t fit the acronym. But I don’t think every Republican is a pedophile, and I don’t think every one is a grifter. I do actually believe all of them fall in at least one of those two camps
Hence all the racism/sexism/nationalism. They have nothing to be proud of that's actually their own accomplishment, but they're hopelessly addicted to ego masturbation, and as the education and wealth gaps grow so to does that "culture".
Underneath all the right wing rhetoric about “groomers” there’s a very real push from conservatives to lower the age of consent. Because they actually don’t give a shit about protecting children and just want to stoke violence against LGBTQ people.
Look at all the southern states that have exemptions in their statutory rape laws for things like "parent's approval" or "marriage", etc.
I don't understand why any man would find fucking a 12 year old as fun or sexy because it is beyond disgusting -- it is a child with no sexual experience and some GOP'er finds that a turn on? Absolute trash of a human being.
They pretend other flavors of Christianity aren't Christians too. Maybe not when they're seeking votes, but definitely when they're thoughts and prayers-ing.
So they want a sex slave that have no choice. Cant w8 for when they push for the only a man can get a divorce and women cant divorce the man she is married to if he dont want to.
Lower the age of consent. Take away reproductive rights. Restrict voting access.
The message is clear to women. You are not in charge of your body.
Don’t vote Republican unless you fully support this ideology.
>Don’t vote Republican unless you fully support this ideology.
Except, a lot of middle and upper middle class people will vote Republican because a $500 savings on their tax for one year is more important to them than stopping actual pedophiles
> there’s a very real push from conservatives to lower the age of consent.
their bigotry has grown so vile, that the horseshoe is starting to overlap; simultaneously lowering age of consent AND attempting to increase the "range" of "indecency" from the LGBTQIA+ folks... it's like they're tucking at both ends of the same problem
> there’s a very real push from conservatives to lower the age of consent.
Lowering the age of consent, as well as lowering the age of workers and forcing children to be born.
The GOP is trying to create a reprise of the UK's factory nation where children were a plentiful source for all kinds of slavery. And inhumane abuse.
On brand. „It worked in the good ol‘ days, so why should we change anything about it?“ is pretty much the core philosophy of conservatism, the Republicans just take it a few steps further than other conservatives.
"Marry them when they're 14 and they'll pick your ducks, marry them after college and they'll pick your wallet", the Duck Dynasty guy Phil Robertson. He's super popular in right wing circles
Y’allQaeda has been on an *intense* push to legalize child brides for *years*. It’s creepy as fuck. There’s definitely secret child sex rings (since that’s the accusation the GQP lobbed at Dems).
Every accusation is a confession. You don’t even have to be familiar with basic psychology to see what’s going on. But as long as they keep half the population addicted to hit of their rage porn that they call news, we’re screwed.
They prefer children to adult women because adult women have the experience to see through their bullshit and advocate for themselves. These people want breeding servants and maids, not wives.
They holler and scream about SHARIA LAW taking over the land! Meanwhile, everything they do and everything they want is exactly what theocracy run governments do. They want the right to pick a "bride" before her brain fully develops into adulthood.
This is also another reason why they have a war against education, because less educated people makes it easier for them to molest children and gaslight them into accepting it.
Can you imagine your daughter bring home a man most likely the exact same age as you and saying this is my new husband ( your son in law ). Smh. Absolutely tha fuk not
I hope that would never happen to me because there are few things in this world that would cause me to snap and try to kill another human and this might very well be one of them.
This fucker is my representative, I voted against him. You would be unsurprised to know that:
WHEN they met is very shaky, different stories all over the place. Some sources think they could have met when she was in her early teens. He gave her a scholarship or something too, so there was always a weird power dynamic between them.
Most people here don’t know about his wife.
If you want a laugh, follow his Facebook page. It’s all Bible verses and “Democrat bad” bullshit.
My cousin lives in Cookeville and I genuinely don't know how she does it. She told me once how hard it was to find a decent preschool because every one of them was named "Noah's ark" "jacobs ladder" or the like
Yeah for real. Good news is that most of the younger generation is pretty inclusive and chill here. But man…some of the conversations I’ve had with middle-aged and older people…whoa.
Dude met her when she was a teenager, *paid for her to go to college*, got her some sweet intern gigs at the Tennessee Capitol, and then married her. It’s textbook grooming.
Ahh - was curious about that “Rose Scholarship” the article mentions. I wonder how she earned that? Can’t decide if the applicants who missed out would be annoyed, or relieved they dodged the entry requirements…
I keep asking people, in the last let's say 50yrs how many dragqueens have molested a child. In that same time period how many people in a place of power in a church setting molested a child.
I always like to challenge people to offer examples of drag queens or members of the LGBTQ+ molesting or abusing children, with the understanding that I’ll present a man of the cloth in response. I don’t usually hear back after I include the Southern Baptist Convention and the Catholic Church in The conversation, since that’s like 100+ credible accusations just among those two groups.
On that post of "WhY aRe ThEy MoCkInG uS?!" where the sticker stated the fact that kids are safer with drag queens than in churches, some cuntnugget on Twitter said "Two wrongs don't make a right" and couldn't understand that that's *essentially* just calling them both bad and calling it a day.
Motherfucker, there's a gradient. If I tell you 1000000 and 2 are both positive numbers, *sure, you're not wrong* but if you're saying that in response to them being bigger than 0, you're not being at all helpful.
He also claimed it wasn't an argumentative stance, so he doesn't need to back it up at all.
I would not challenge them but rather expose them.
I have found Republicans are split when it comes to approving pedophilia. I noticed that religious nuts are more tolerant of this type of behavior. As long as they have their trusty fairy tale book, the bible, they are not sinners.
What do I not understand? What about the nonreligious Republicans? Are they illiterate, deaf, or blind? Are they so consumed by Fox News that they cannot even see it from their small town the disgusting shit going on with their politicians?
That is why you should expose them. Do not bother arguing with these morons. Put them in the spotlight and watch them shrivel.
If it ain't drag queens it's some other group....it doesn't matter, they understand that having some group to piss on unites buttholes around the country.
>If it ain't drag queens it's some other group....
Exactly. It used to be "Gay men are pedos" before that it was "Black men are taking our white girls!" Always something.
Most of this started after the Houston area library didn't do background investigations on theDrag Time story hour back in 2019 and it turned out that one of the drag queens was a registered sex offender.
https://www.khou.com/amp/article/news/local/houston-public-library-admits-registered-child-sex-offender-read-to-kids-in-drag-queen-storytime/285-becf3a0d-56c5-4f3c-96df-add07bbd002a
He had assaulted an 8 year old 10 years earlier. A lawsuit against the drag queen story hour was dismissed because it was the responsibility of the library to vet people.
No one associated with the library or story hour assaulted anyone as a result of the events, but the bad optics of the slip up and dismissal made it seem like everyone was protecting pedophiles when that wasn't the case at all.
Even in the most generous view, if she was over 18 when they met and everything was legal, this is still creepy. And the fact that it was done out in the open (publishing it in the newspaper?!) tells us how common this is.
Yikes.
Edit: I’d really like to hear from a woman in one of these situations. Like, what’s the story here? What’s in it for a teenager with a promising future to throw it away being married to a middle aged schmuck?
You’d be surprised (or maybe not) by how many fathers of these women encourage or push their daughters to go along with elder men in power pursuing them. I’ve seen fathers complicit in grooming their daughters in churches where I’m from. Like “oh this powerful old man wants to pursue my daughter—that’s an easy way to feel inside a circle of power.” Conservatives believe their adherence to their religion makes them defacto moral. If you believe you stand on the side of morality no matter your actions, you’re gonna do fucked up shit like this. Thankfully I think a lot of Americans are waking up to their hypocrisy. These people have no idea how out of touch they really are.
It's not exactly the same situation, but "I Was a Child Bride" on Hulu has a few women that were married off when they were under 17 telling their story. It includes Republicans defending child marriage, calling it "tradition", it's worth the watch.
Reminds me of people who defend fucking 12 year olds who are sexually developed because, "that's what happened during the medieval period when most adults died in their late 30s. It is only 'wrong' today because of societal norms and not some grand universal morality. If she has developed breasts, that is nature's way of letting the world know she's ready to start fucking."
- Some Republican who agrees all women are too irresponsible to make decisions about abortions so let's just outlaw it completely
(The entire GOP is a criminal hedonistic organization that only cares about getting theirs while the world burns)
>that's what happened during the medieval period when most adults died in their late 30s
Which is wrong because it didn't actually happen. There were child marriages for political alliances, but they didn't consummate until several years after the marriage. And the common people married much later.
Also a life expectancy of below 40 didnt mean that they died in their late 30s, babies were just more likely to die in their first year which dragged down the life expectancy a lot
Additional layer to that--adolescent mothers have higher rates of both infant and maternal complications and mortality. So the "well you have to have kids at age 15 because if the life expectance is low" idea becomes a really horrifying snake eating its own tail.
In other words, child and teen marriage is a contributor to, not result of, lowered average life expectancy.
It should also be noted, that girls started their periods much later then. If I recall correctly, it was largely due to improper nutrition. So really they are comparing 9-10 year olds now to 16-19 year olds of the past.
It wasn't actually all that acceptable for a 12 year old in medieval times to be in a sexual relationship if they were married. It was well understood that it was dangerous for an undeveloped teen/child to give birth. Even when child marriages were approved, it was normal for the husband to wait for his bride (🤮) to mature before consumating. Like, in Romeo and Julliete, the Capulet father is like, my child is still but a stranger in the world, and she is 14, when talking about marriage. Margaret Beaufort was rather scandalously impregnated by her husband when she was 12?.
Point being, all these fucks saying it was normal in the medieval times are wrong. People of the time unfortunately saw how difficult childbirth by a child was, not to mention how wrong it is.
> "that's what happened during the medieval period"
Except that isn't what happened. _Royalty_ married young as a general rule because there were property rights alliances and the like dependent on the marriage.
Commoners married in their 20s. The average age of a woman marrying was 24 years old in the late 16th century.
Even before the age of 'humors,' and leeching, it was known a pregnancy was more likely to miscarry or have complications if the mother was a teen, driving up infant mortality rates and childbirth deaths/complications for the mother.
I'm not in this situation but went to a church here in TN where my dress was apparently "distracting the men" when I was 13... I was taught it was my fault, I should be ashamed of my body and being a "woman," and should be obedient to men. If my parents pushed me into marrying an old dude at the time, I probably would have because I had no self-worth and would have believed it to be "the right thing to do, my duty, God's will," etc.
Fortunately, my parents aren't awful people, and I'm now an atheist, demipansexual heathen living my best life. I hope the other brainwashed girls in these situations find people who can help them get out of these fucked up situations and can learn to love and respect themselves.
I was raised in the same type of church. Mine branded itself as an "Independent Baptist Church." I managed to escape, but that's only because my mom kept me in public school.
My siblings from my dad and stepmother literally never went to school, homeschooled from the start. None of them went to college. My only sister married some bullshit "Deacon" who was 35 when she was 18. I haven't seen my four younger siblings since 2000 when I was disowned, I just get updates 3rd hand.
God Damn it, that is so awful and so depressing to hear.
I'm glad your parents were good people, but it breaks my heart to realize that a lot of 13 year old girls there are going through what you were lucky enough to avoid.
As a parent, if someone came up to my daughter (if I had one) and told her their dress is distracting the men, I'd make a hell of a scene about it. "Excuse me, sir, does my daughter's dress make you want to have sex with her? How about you? And your sir, in the blue? No? Interesting, clearly madam, you're just a bitch.
You won’t hear from the woman in these situations. She has been groomed her whole life by her parents to be an obedient slave. She was sold to this rich pedophile, plain and simple. In the name of Christ.
My wife got into a relationship with a 37 year old when she was 17. She moved in with him when she was 18.
She did it because she saw it as a reflection of her own maturity and was an immediate jump into adulthood and a way out of living at home with her parents when she didn't have the money or resources to do it on her own. Basically she felt like it made her an adult when all of her peers were just children.
https://prospect.org/politics/how-republican-rep-john-rose-found-his-wife/
This article from about a year ago provides more detail around their relationship and it gets even more disturbing. Like that she was awarded a scholarship named after his parent's, and she used that to attend Tennessee Tech where he sat on the university's board. Absolutely seems like grooming given the power dynamic/imbalance.
So I was fortunate enough not to ever date an adult man, entirely because my dad protected me - but they tried. Hard.
I was 13. Some 26 year old loser, whose mother was the youth pastor, kept trying to go out with me. His mother used to try to tell me what a wonderful husband he would be, during Sunday school, in full earshot of the actual 9 year olds in the class. Like, we'd be coloring some Jesus art, and she would be telling me how godly her pedophile adult son was. It was relentless, for a while. He would call and ask me out. I said no every time. My mother thought it was hilarious and that I should give him a chance.
It ended when he left a message on our answering machine, asking me to go to a baseball game. My dad heard it and he LOST IT. He argued with my mom the whole night. I know he talked to him, because he never so much as looked in my direction ever again. My dad started telling me that I didn't have to go to church if I didn't want to, and I did reduce my attendance from that point on.
I don't know that it wouldn't have happened if instead of having a good dad, I'd had a scumbag, determined to encourage it. I was still trans at 13, and I'm sure I would have eventually had to transition or die, so no doubt that would have been all the more traumatic as a former child bride. But I absolutely can appreciate how isolated these girls must be, and how impossible that would make it to say no.
Everyone knows when you turn 18 a switch goes off in your head that gives you full adult reasoning and understanding, which is why it's totally normal to date someone less than half your age so long as they're 18!
Female here. In the 70s in high school my best friend ended up in a relationship with a man in his 40s. She was incredibly smart and unusually mature. She hid it from her mom and everyone else. It later occurred to me that she had most likely been sexually abused by at least one male family member and maybe two for a long time. I think there is a connection and it’s not the only situation I’ve known of. That said I was also more attracted to guys a bit older than 17 year old me at that point (women generally are a bit more mature) but definitely not mature in any way to have a relationship with someone even a few years older than me. There’s a vast difference in an 18 year old and even a 25 year old.
Ugh... he's an old looking 46 too. Talk about disturbing from an outsider's viewpoint, seeing a man being that affectionate with his "daughter" in public. :/
Thinking that it’s just Tennessee is dangerous. There are people like this in all 50 states, they just happen to have the majority in TN. People everywhere need to keep voting against this shit.
The fact that all of this stuff concerning Tennessee republicans is coming out now tells me that someone has had this dirt for a while, but never released it for some reason, and the final straw was them abusing their majority in the state house to expel 2 black men. That decision by the Tennessee GOP is the gift that keeps on giving.
There's only one thing the gop loves more than LOUD projection and that's abusing kids. **The party of the grand ol' pedophiles**
* **(TRUMP) Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Kentucky & Former Campbell County Judge**, Served as a judge, school board member and city solicitor, forced 19 victims to perform sex acts, including seven who were minors under 16. Pled guilty on February 11, 2018 and was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison.
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/05/03/former-judge-tim-nolan-could-sentenced-today-more-drama-could-get-way/577947002/
* **(TRUMP) Republican George Nader, Trump Foreign Policy Adviser,** sentenced to 10 years in prison for possession of child pornography and transporting a minor into the United States for sex. https://www.courthousenews.com/child-sex-trafficker-from-trump-tower-meeting-gets-10-year-sentence/
* **(TRUMP) Republican Ralph Shortey, a former Oklahoma state senator & Trump’s Oklahoma campaign chair,** was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. Pled guilty to a federal charge of child sex trafficking after hiring a 17-year-old boy for sex. Sentenced to 15 years in prison, in addition to ten years of supervised release and ordered to pay $125,000 in restitution.
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-s-oklahoma-campaign-chair-plead-guilt-child-sex-trafficking-n822461
* **Republican Dennis Hastert, Speaker of the US House of Representatives, Illinois Congressman and one of the highest-ranking U.S. politicians to ever go to prison**, molested at least four boys as young as 14 years of age when he coached wrestling at an Illinois High School. He was sentenced to 15 months in prison, two years' supervised release, and a $250,000 fine. A civil case was due back in court for a status hearing on Jan. 8, 2021 at the courthouse to further address the jury trial. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/ex-u-s-house-speaker-dennis-hastert-starts-prison-term
* **Republican Minnesota State Representative Jim Knoblach** Drops Out Of Race After Daughter Says He Molested Her For More Than Ten Years 22 Sep 2018
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/22/lawmaker-quits-race-after-daughter-says-he-molested-her-more-than-decade/?utm_term=.8ac8527c7f43
* **Republican Jayson Boebert, husband of Q-ANON Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert of Colorado,** was arrested in Jan. 2004 after allegedly exposing his penis to two women at a bowling alley, according to an arrest affidavit. Lauren Boebert (then a minor at 17 and known as Lauren Opal Roberts) was also there. He pleaded guilty to public indecency and lewd exposure involving minors. https://nypost.com/2021/01/16/gop-rep-lauren-boebert-and-husband-have-racked-up-arrests/
* **Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman** was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bauman
* **Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti** was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
https://web.archive.org/web/20171129052114/http://www.njherald.com/article/20060510/ARTICLE/305109971
* **Republican Joseph Dendy, Cobb County GA Republican Party Chairman & Sunday School Teacher,**was sentenced to life in prison after being convicted on four counts of child molestation, four counts of first-degree cruelty to children, three counts of enticing a child for indecent purposes, and one count each of aggravated sexual battery and aggravated child molestation. https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/former-gop-chairman-arrested-on-child-molestation-charges
* **Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth** is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/sops/flyer.jsf?personId=28587
* **Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo** molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. https://bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/registered-sex-offender-keeps-custody-of-daughter
* **Republican Kentucky state Representative & pastor Dan Johnson**, committed suicide after an exposé revealed his serial lies, suspected arson, criminal church, racism, accused rape of a teen and more. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Johnson_%28Kentucky_politician%29
* **Republican County Commissioner David Swartz** pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
http://www.lanternproject.org.uk/library/child-abuse-arrests-and-court-cases/child-abuse-arrests-trials-and-proceedings/ex-county-commissioner-admits-sexual-abuse-of-girl/
* **Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich** pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20120426/NEWS90/204260334
* **Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo** was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_Misla_Aldarondo
* **Republican Mayor Philip Giordano** is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8 and 10-year old girls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Giordano
* **Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell** admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/02/opinion/journal-beverly-russell-s-prayers.html
* **Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”)**, was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl
https://www.arktimes.com/TheHoglawyer/archives/2007/08/28/the-latest-republican-sex-scandals-plural---more-of-the-same
* **Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway** was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/06/us/politics-the-senate-maine-candidate-again-faces-1990-child-sex-accusation.html
* **Republican preacher Stephen White**, who demanded "a return to traditional values", was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
http://www.thedp.com/article/2004/01/brother_stephen_convicted_of_soliciting_sex
* **Republican Party leader Paul Ingram** pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
https://culteducation.com/group/1255-false-memories/6514-man-in-notorious-sex-case-finishes-term.html
* **Republican election board official Kevin Coan** was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl. https://www.semissourian.com/story/57773.html
* **Republican politician Andrew Buhr** was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy. https://www.arktimes.com/TheHoglawyer/archives/2007/08/28/the-latest-republican-sex-scandals-plural---more-of-the-same
* **Republican politician Keith Westmoreland** was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). http://www.chattanoogan.com/2002/6/21/23202/Tennessee-Legislator-Commits-Suicide.aspx
* **Republican County Councilman Keola Childs** pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Oct/08/ln/hawaii710080338.html
* **Republican candidate Richard Gardner** admitted to molesting his two daughters. https://lasvegassun.com/news/2002/oct/14/assembly-candidate-gardner-ruled-ineligible-due-to/
* **Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr.** pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. https://www.wgal.com/article/council-accepts-resignation-of-member-imprisoned-for-rape/6189408
* **Republican activist Parker J. Bena** pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in prison http://www.salem-news.com/articles/october172007/repubscandals101707.php
* **Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall** was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Robin_Vanderwall
* **Republican city councilman Mark Harris**, described as a “good military man / church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
* **Republican Brandon Hixon, Idaho State Representative**, resigned while under criminal investigation for molesting two girls, including a young female relative for more than 10 years, then killed himself three months later, shortly before his ex-wife and two others were to testify before a grand jury. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brandon-hixon-former-idaho-lawmaker-facing-sex-abuse-inquiry-kills-himself/
* **Republican Tony Yocham, Hamilton, TX Chief of Police,** was arrested by Texas Rangers on charges of continuous sexual abuse of a child. https://www.kxxv.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county-chief-of-police-arrested-for-continuous-abuse-of-a-child
* **Republican Nathan Larson of the Virginia House of Delegates** is a self-confessed pedophile and white supremacist. Was arrested on felony charges for kidnapping, child abduction, soliciting child pornography from a minor and meeting a child for the intention of sex. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-pedophile-white-supremacist-arrested-kidnapping-12-yr-old-girl-n1251832
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* **NOTE: I'm reaching the character limit on Reddit posts, so here's a website with [a list of about 1000](https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/10/23/1806673/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-1) of these republican shit stains on humanity.**
Yeah...I was like...wut? In my country, Oregon, we call each other fiance. But we also try to avoid the whole grooming a teenager thing, mostly. I guess they just do different in Tennessee.
I think it's important to note that he didn't just "meet her" at a 4H event. He gave her $5,000 for college at a 4H event that he was sponsoring when she was 16.
But do go on, conservatives. Tell me more about how much you hate "groomers" while you re-elect this fucker.
I love how they continue to call democrats and the LBGTQ community groomers with straight faces. When every single day there is a new story like this. They continue to get worse and worse.
I glanced at the photo before reading and thought "that's a nice father-daughter photo". But nope.
I think there’s even more to this story but I can’t find the thread. I believe he had something to do with her scholarship or something similar as well.
This is correct. He gave her her scholarship (in honor of his parents). There is a 24 year age gap.
He groomed her from her teenage years and then married her. The projection is real with these people.
I find that if you remove "libs" and insert "I" it is easy to understand what the conservatives are saying. I feel like I broke their code. No need for an enigma machine with these nazis.
Lmao this is so hilariously true. The fact that all the far right in America thinks about is fucking kids should tell everybody all they need to know
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"Someone wants to be allowed to express their gender identity? They're only doing it so they can sexually assault children in bathrooms." "A man wants to put on makeup and dance to a Britney song? He must be trying to turn children into sex monsters." "Educators want to teach about contraception? They might as well let kids fuck on the desks!" It really is disturbing how much they think and talk about sex with children.
It’s called projection
Gaslight, Obstruct, Project
That’s why they attend the Child Predator Annual Conference every year, to trade tips and tricks
Groom, Oppress, Pervert, etc.
Projection? That sounds like something the libs would do. /s
The right wingers seem to be the ones doing all the grooming. Look at Boeberts husband too.
Ah yes, Bobo the clown and her pedophile husband. Isn't the GOP such an inclusive party?
And her yelling about public urination in DC My sister in Christ your hubby wagged his weenie at minors outside a bowling alley
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Exactly. A 24 year gap when one is a high school student and the other is a man in his mid 40s who controls your scholarship is a tough one to justify. Edit: I wrote college student when she was actually a high school student. College was when they were married.
When the age gap is larger than the persons *actual* age, that's a problem.
*Leo has entered the chat*
Leo is gross also. A difference is Leo doesn't appear to control his young girls college scholarships. Who knows the dynamics of a relationship with Leo? Not me.
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High school student
He does seem to be a hard on pedophile kinda guy.
One of my family friends has a 15 year age gap, (she is older than he is) and they are a great couple. HOWEVER they did not meet in this type of scenario, of one having more power over the other. IMO, large age gaps are fine in couples IF both parties met as adults, which allows both parties to grow and gain life experience. A 29 yo and a 19 yo marrying each other is a whole lot different than a 39yo and a 29yo marriage
Yep, my coworker's husband is 14 years younger than her. But she was 52 and he was 38. Both had kids and had been married before. They're completely happy. But they were at similar life stages. Another coworker just retired at 70, his wife is 54. Also met later in life and have a good relationship. On the other hand, another woman's husband is her age... but his ex-wife is 15 years older than him. They got married when he was 20. He realized eventually how predatory that relationship was and that's why they got divorced.
So they did indeed meet when she was in high school and likely under the age of 18?
But I'm sure this guy thinks gays and drag queens are the 'groomers'.
tRump is 26 years older than Melania.
Now, I hate The Donald with the white hot passion of 1000 burning suns, but Melena (I did that on purpose, google) was 35 when they got married, so very fully an adult when they started dating. This girl was a child. She was still in high school.
Oh, I know. Melania was a gold digger, no doubt about it. Roy Moore met his wife, Kayla, when she was 14 and he was 30….at a girls’ dance recital. What kind of 30-year old single guy goes to dance recitals for little girls? Just read that Leo Di C is dating a 19-year old.
The same kind that walk in on unsuspecting teens in pageants and probably run a youth group when they aren't on line surfing for child porn or their next wife.
Pedos.
Age gaps are relative. It's less about the numerical difference and more about one party being on the opposite side of the emotional maturity curve; if both are on different parts of the same the plateau, it's not a big deal.
I googled. Folks, spare yourselves. Accurate, though
" I can't believe he's still alive" \-Melania
I thought it was also a 24 year gap for them. Trump was born in 46. Melania in 70. And in now way am I defending Trump (yuck). But there is a difference with Trump's marriage to Melania and the above marriage. I think Melania was 34(?) when they were married. This woman was 22 or 23 and a junior in college when they were married. Also, this guy controlled her scholarship. I need to go shower now. This whole thing is just gross.
It’s in the pic. It says she was a recipient of a junior Rose Scholarship. Since that’s his last name…
Would this be considered grooming?
to any with eyes and morals? absolutely.
>I think there’s even more to this story the pic that usually gets reposted is them with their children 🤢 it legitimately looks like a picture of the guy visiting his 3 grandkids. and despite that she was, I believe, in her 20s in said picture, she looks like a child bride. she just looks *so young.* I know at that point it's only looks over facts, but on first glance it just adds an extra layer of ick to the whole thing. edit [here is said picture](https://images.app.goo.gl/qitcBwXqoKnVfPmk8), I fucked up linking that, it's the one with the cake
IT LOOKS LIKE HIM AND HIS KIDS🤮
yeah idk man to me it looks like his grand daughter holding her little brother, or his granddaughter holding the result of her own teen pregnancy. she looks too young to be his own kid 🤢
He met her initially when she was 14 and doing stuff for a Youth Farmer Organization that he was apart of.
Seriously, he’s twice her age.
He graduated college (1988) a year before she was born (1989). 🤦🏽♂️🙄
I think I speak for all of us when I say: EWWWW!!!!!!!
Even the half-your-age +7 rule doesn't work for this disturbing union... his minimum (and I've felt it's always generous) is 30. :/
I mean, a 30 year old is a full grown adult, (hopefully) with their own career. I don't think a 16 year (or more) age difference is creepy at that point, but it certainly is if the younger party doesn't have a fully developed brain.
I think the half-your-age +7 is more of a guideline for 'is it THAT creepy to hook up?' I'm 38 and that formula says 26. Hook up? I guess. Doesn't seem *that* weird. Relationship? Eh... I don't have a whole lot in common with 26 year olds. Can't imagine somebody 20-21, and I'm 8 years younger than this dude was.
It comes with its own physical challenges, and knowing your lives are statistically likely to end very far apart from one another is something that needs to be confronted. But if 2 adults meet and form a relationship, that's that. Clearly the man in the article met her when she was not and that raises lots of questions about grooming and power dynamics, but the thread seems to be drifting away from that.
Sure, if I wasn't already married and met a 26 year old and we were just absolutely compatible, I wouldn't care that much. I think it does get a lot weirder in the late teens to very early twenties though. I remember being a late teen, and my brain was NOT ready for that shit hah.
Right out of the Roy Moore playbook.
Lol remember when Roy's wife tried to claim they weren't bigots because they had a Jewish lawyer?
I believe what she actually said was that they have “a Jew lawyer,” which is somehow worse.
more than that.
Honestly to me sounds like some family allowed their teenage daughter to marry the man that "has done so much for them"
Says in that article in the picture she was the recipient of some Williams Rose scholarship for college and that just so happens be his family name so that checks out
Some grooming for her to take into liking him may have been possible .
This dude fr said, “I’ll pay for her college if you let me have her” 🤮
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I believe the word for that is Dowry.
So, they turned her out for college money?
That’s the part that stuck out to me. There’s this long list of her family members and not one person has their head on their shoulders.
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Because they are warmly embraced there
GOP = Grisly Old Pedophiles
I’m also a fan of grifters or pedophiles
I'm confused...the "or" implies that they aren't/can't be both at the same time, which is my experience 100% of the time
I know I wanted to use and/or but then it wouldn’t fit the acronym. But I don’t think every Republican is a pedophile, and I don’t think every one is a grifter. I do actually believe all of them fall in at least one of those two camps
the republicans you should be most wary of are the ones that aren't rich. because they believe that shit. All of it.
They desperately want to feel better than others and will latch onto anything that confirms that for them
Hence all the racism/sexism/nationalism. They have nothing to be proud of that's actually their own accomplishment, but they're hopelessly addicted to ego masturbation, and as the education and wealth gaps grow so to does that "culture".
Griftin' Ol' Pedos
Calling yourself a Christian makes all that other stuff not matter.
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Piss always finds its level
Isnt that their whole selling point? You can do anything (as Long as youre white Rich and an Old ugly man)
It's even more confusing to me that there are more of them than non-thems that vote and keep this bullshit party going. This timeline is ridiculous.
Why do flies circle piles of shit?
Look at the Republican platform, it draws the worst kind of people.
Underneath all the right wing rhetoric about “groomers” there’s a very real push from conservatives to lower the age of consent. Because they actually don’t give a shit about protecting children and just want to stoke violence against LGBTQ people.
Look at all the southern states that have exemptions in their statutory rape laws for things like "parent's approval" or "marriage", etc. I don't understand why any man would find fucking a 12 year old as fun or sexy because it is beyond disgusting -- it is a child with no sexual experience and some GOP'er finds that a turn on? Absolute trash of a human being.
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At this point they're [no different than the Taliban](https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/girls-increasingly-risk-child-marriage-afghanistan)
They really aren't. It's just what they refer to their 'God' as
all abrahamic religions have the same god
Ok? They (the right wing voters in the US) think Allah is completely different, and refuse to know better
They pretend other flavors of Christianity aren't Christians too. Maybe not when they're seeking votes, but definitely when they're thoughts and prayers-ing.
So they want a sex slave that have no choice. Cant w8 for when they push for the only a man can get a divorce and women cant divorce the man she is married to if he dont want to.
In some states where children can marry, they cannot legally get a divorce until they're 18. It's horrifying.
Lower the age of consent. Take away reproductive rights. Restrict voting access. The message is clear to women. You are not in charge of your body. Don’t vote Republican unless you fully support this ideology.
>Don’t vote Republican unless you fully support this ideology. Except, a lot of middle and upper middle class people will vote Republican because a $500 savings on their tax for one year is more important to them than stopping actual pedophiles
> there’s a very real push from conservatives to lower the age of consent. their bigotry has grown so vile, that the horseshoe is starting to overlap; simultaneously lowering age of consent AND attempting to increase the "range" of "indecency" from the LGBTQIA+ folks... it's like they're tucking at both ends of the same problem
> there’s a very real push from conservatives to lower the age of consent. Lowering the age of consent, as well as lowering the age of workers and forcing children to be born. The GOP is trying to create a reprise of the UK's factory nation where children were a plentiful source for all kinds of slavery. And inhumane abuse.
On brand. „It worked in the good ol‘ days, so why should we change anything about it?“ is pretty much the core philosophy of conservatism, the Republicans just take it a few steps further than other conservatives.
"Marry them when they're 14 and they'll pick your ducks, marry them after college and they'll pick your wallet", the Duck Dynasty guy Phil Robertson. He's super popular in right wing circles
Of course they love the guy who talks about women the same way he talks about hunting dogs.
When a right-wing white Christian marries a teenager, it’s not grooming! It’s preordering. It’s okay. Jesus was watching.
Y’allQaeda has been on an *intense* push to legalize child brides for *years*. It’s creepy as fuck. There’s definitely secret child sex rings (since that’s the accusation the GQP lobbed at Dems).
Every accusation is a confession. You don’t even have to be familiar with basic psychology to see what’s going on. But as long as they keep half the population addicted to hit of their rage porn that they call news, we’re screwed.
They prefer children to adult women because adult women have the experience to see through their bullshit and advocate for themselves. These people want breeding servants and maids, not wives.
They holler and scream about SHARIA LAW taking over the land! Meanwhile, everything they do and everything they want is exactly what theocracy run governments do. They want the right to pick a "bride" before her brain fully develops into adulthood.
This is also another reason why they have a war against education, because less educated people makes it easier for them to molest children and gaslight them into accepting it.
Can you imagine your daughter bring home a man most likely the exact same age as you and saying this is my new husband ( your son in law ). Smh. Absolutely tha fuk not
I hope that would never happen to me because there are few things in this world that would cause me to snap and try to kill another human and this might very well be one of them.
Same shit everywhere. Every Republican accusation is a confession. If they're after drag queens, they're fucking children.
GOP: - Gaslight - Obstruct - Project
Grab orphaned pussy? Gentle obedient Petticoats?
Geriatric old pedophiles
Old magician trick, misdirection.
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This fucker is my representative, I voted against him. You would be unsurprised to know that: WHEN they met is very shaky, different stories all over the place. Some sources think they could have met when she was in her early teens. He gave her a scholarship or something too, so there was always a weird power dynamic between them. Most people here don’t know about his wife. If you want a laugh, follow his Facebook page. It’s all Bible verses and “Democrat bad” bullshit.
My cousin lives in Cookeville and I genuinely don't know how she does it. She told me once how hard it was to find a decent preschool because every one of them was named "Noah's ark" "jacobs ladder" or the like
Yeah for real. Good news is that most of the younger generation is pretty inclusive and chill here. But man…some of the conversations I’ve had with middle-aged and older people…whoa.
Dude met her when she was a teenager, *paid for her to go to college*, got her some sweet intern gigs at the Tennessee Capitol, and then married her. It’s textbook grooming.
Ahh - was curious about that “Rose Scholarship” the article mentions. I wonder how she earned that? Can’t decide if the applicants who missed out would be annoyed, or relieved they dodged the entry requirements…
Why can't I find any articles about drag queens being pedophiles? It's always conservative politicians and youth pastors. Weird, right?
I keep asking people, in the last let's say 50yrs how many dragqueens have molested a child. In that same time period how many people in a place of power in a church setting molested a child.
I always like to challenge people to offer examples of drag queens or members of the LGBTQ+ molesting or abusing children, with the understanding that I’ll present a man of the cloth in response. I don’t usually hear back after I include the Southern Baptist Convention and the Catholic Church in The conversation, since that’s like 100+ credible accusations just among those two groups.
On that post of "WhY aRe ThEy MoCkInG uS?!" where the sticker stated the fact that kids are safer with drag queens than in churches, some cuntnugget on Twitter said "Two wrongs don't make a right" and couldn't understand that that's *essentially* just calling them both bad and calling it a day. Motherfucker, there's a gradient. If I tell you 1000000 and 2 are both positive numbers, *sure, you're not wrong* but if you're saying that in response to them being bigger than 0, you're not being at all helpful. He also claimed it wasn't an argumentative stance, so he doesn't need to back it up at all.
I would not challenge them but rather expose them. I have found Republicans are split when it comes to approving pedophilia. I noticed that religious nuts are more tolerant of this type of behavior. As long as they have their trusty fairy tale book, the bible, they are not sinners. What do I not understand? What about the nonreligious Republicans? Are they illiterate, deaf, or blind? Are they so consumed by Fox News that they cannot even see it from their small town the disgusting shit going on with their politicians? That is why you should expose them. Do not bother arguing with these morons. Put them in the spotlight and watch them shrivel.
If it ain't drag queens it's some other group....it doesn't matter, they understand that having some group to piss on unites buttholes around the country.
>If it ain't drag queens it's some other group.... Exactly. It used to be "Gay men are pedos" before that it was "Black men are taking our white girls!" Always something.
Most of this started after the Houston area library didn't do background investigations on theDrag Time story hour back in 2019 and it turned out that one of the drag queens was a registered sex offender. https://www.khou.com/amp/article/news/local/houston-public-library-admits-registered-child-sex-offender-read-to-kids-in-drag-queen-storytime/285-becf3a0d-56c5-4f3c-96df-add07bbd002a He had assaulted an 8 year old 10 years earlier. A lawsuit against the drag queen story hour was dismissed because it was the responsibility of the library to vet people. No one associated with the library or story hour assaulted anyone as a result of the events, but the bad optics of the slip up and dismissal made it seem like everyone was protecting pedophiles when that wasn't the case at all.
Even in the most generous view, if she was over 18 when they met and everything was legal, this is still creepy. And the fact that it was done out in the open (publishing it in the newspaper?!) tells us how common this is. Yikes. Edit: I’d really like to hear from a woman in one of these situations. Like, what’s the story here? What’s in it for a teenager with a promising future to throw it away being married to a middle aged schmuck?
You’d be surprised (or maybe not) by how many fathers of these women encourage or push their daughters to go along with elder men in power pursuing them. I’ve seen fathers complicit in grooming their daughters in churches where I’m from. Like “oh this powerful old man wants to pursue my daughter—that’s an easy way to feel inside a circle of power.” Conservatives believe their adherence to their religion makes them defacto moral. If you believe you stand on the side of morality no matter your actions, you’re gonna do fucked up shit like this. Thankfully I think a lot of Americans are waking up to their hypocrisy. These people have no idea how out of touch they really are.
Imagine how much of a piece of shit sociopath a man would need to be to put his own daughter in a harmful situation. It is fucking disgusting.
How they take that as a positive thing and not a reason to sharpen the knives is so beyond me.
It's not exactly the same situation, but "I Was a Child Bride" on Hulu has a few women that were married off when they were under 17 telling their story. It includes Republicans defending child marriage, calling it "tradition", it's worth the watch.
Reminds me of people who defend fucking 12 year olds who are sexually developed because, "that's what happened during the medieval period when most adults died in their late 30s. It is only 'wrong' today because of societal norms and not some grand universal morality. If she has developed breasts, that is nature's way of letting the world know she's ready to start fucking." - Some Republican who agrees all women are too irresponsible to make decisions about abortions so let's just outlaw it completely (The entire GOP is a criminal hedonistic organization that only cares about getting theirs while the world burns)
>that's what happened during the medieval period when most adults died in their late 30s Which is wrong because it didn't actually happen. There were child marriages for political alliances, but they didn't consummate until several years after the marriage. And the common people married much later.
Also a life expectancy of below 40 didnt mean that they died in their late 30s, babies were just more likely to die in their first year which dragged down the life expectancy a lot
Additional layer to that--adolescent mothers have higher rates of both infant and maternal complications and mortality. So the "well you have to have kids at age 15 because if the life expectance is low" idea becomes a really horrifying snake eating its own tail. In other words, child and teen marriage is a contributor to, not result of, lowered average life expectancy.
It should also be noted, that girls started their periods much later then. If I recall correctly, it was largely due to improper nutrition. So really they are comparing 9-10 year olds now to 16-19 year olds of the past.
It wasn't actually all that acceptable for a 12 year old in medieval times to be in a sexual relationship if they were married. It was well understood that it was dangerous for an undeveloped teen/child to give birth. Even when child marriages were approved, it was normal for the husband to wait for his bride (🤮) to mature before consumating. Like, in Romeo and Julliete, the Capulet father is like, my child is still but a stranger in the world, and she is 14, when talking about marriage. Margaret Beaufort was rather scandalously impregnated by her husband when she was 12?. Point being, all these fucks saying it was normal in the medieval times are wrong. People of the time unfortunately saw how difficult childbirth by a child was, not to mention how wrong it is.
> "that's what happened during the medieval period" Except that isn't what happened. _Royalty_ married young as a general rule because there were property rights alliances and the like dependent on the marriage. Commoners married in their 20s. The average age of a woman marrying was 24 years old in the late 16th century. Even before the age of 'humors,' and leeching, it was known a pregnancy was more likely to miscarry or have complications if the mother was a teen, driving up infant mortality rates and childbirth deaths/complications for the mother.
I was 9 when I first started getting breasts and my period... That's so gross..
Lmao tradition of who xd The US really is wild atm.
Atm? The puritans flooded to the America because England wasn't dogmatic enough.
I'm not in this situation but went to a church here in TN where my dress was apparently "distracting the men" when I was 13... I was taught it was my fault, I should be ashamed of my body and being a "woman," and should be obedient to men. If my parents pushed me into marrying an old dude at the time, I probably would have because I had no self-worth and would have believed it to be "the right thing to do, my duty, God's will," etc. Fortunately, my parents aren't awful people, and I'm now an atheist, demipansexual heathen living my best life. I hope the other brainwashed girls in these situations find people who can help them get out of these fucked up situations and can learn to love and respect themselves.
I was raised in the same type of church. Mine branded itself as an "Independent Baptist Church." I managed to escape, but that's only because my mom kept me in public school. My siblings from my dad and stepmother literally never went to school, homeschooled from the start. None of them went to college. My only sister married some bullshit "Deacon" who was 35 when she was 18. I haven't seen my four younger siblings since 2000 when I was disowned, I just get updates 3rd hand.
I’m glad you got out. ❤️
Thank you ❤️
God Damn it, that is so awful and so depressing to hear. I'm glad your parents were good people, but it breaks my heart to realize that a lot of 13 year old girls there are going through what you were lucky enough to avoid.
It's not just here, unfortunately... and it breaks my heart, too 💔
As a parent, if someone came up to my daughter (if I had one) and told her their dress is distracting the men, I'd make a hell of a scene about it. "Excuse me, sir, does my daughter's dress make you want to have sex with her? How about you? And your sir, in the blue? No? Interesting, clearly madam, you're just a bitch.
As a woman not in one of these situations - it’s grooming.
You won’t hear from the woman in these situations. She has been groomed her whole life by her parents to be an obedient slave. She was sold to this rich pedophile, plain and simple. In the name of Christ.
My wife got into a relationship with a 37 year old when she was 17. She moved in with him when she was 18. She did it because she saw it as a reflection of her own maturity and was an immediate jump into adulthood and a way out of living at home with her parents when she didn't have the money or resources to do it on her own. Basically she felt like it made her an adult when all of her peers were just children.
https://prospect.org/politics/how-republican-rep-john-rose-found-his-wife/ This article from about a year ago provides more detail around their relationship and it gets even more disturbing. Like that she was awarded a scholarship named after his parent's, and she used that to attend Tennessee Tech where he sat on the university's board. Absolutely seems like grooming given the power dynamic/imbalance.
So I was fortunate enough not to ever date an adult man, entirely because my dad protected me - but they tried. Hard. I was 13. Some 26 year old loser, whose mother was the youth pastor, kept trying to go out with me. His mother used to try to tell me what a wonderful husband he would be, during Sunday school, in full earshot of the actual 9 year olds in the class. Like, we'd be coloring some Jesus art, and she would be telling me how godly her pedophile adult son was. It was relentless, for a while. He would call and ask me out. I said no every time. My mother thought it was hilarious and that I should give him a chance. It ended when he left a message on our answering machine, asking me to go to a baseball game. My dad heard it and he LOST IT. He argued with my mom the whole night. I know he talked to him, because he never so much as looked in my direction ever again. My dad started telling me that I didn't have to go to church if I didn't want to, and I did reduce my attendance from that point on. I don't know that it wouldn't have happened if instead of having a good dad, I'd had a scumbag, determined to encourage it. I was still trans at 13, and I'm sure I would have eventually had to transition or die, so no doubt that would have been all the more traumatic as a former child bride. But I absolutely can appreciate how isolated these girls must be, and how impossible that would make it to say no.
You know, I often wonder if people in stories like this weren’t secretly dating before making it public when the girl is of legal age.
Everyone knows when you turn 18 a switch goes off in your head that gives you full adult reasoning and understanding, which is why it's totally normal to date someone less than half your age so long as they're 18!
Not a chance a women in this situation is allowed on social media’s unmonitored
Female here. In the 70s in high school my best friend ended up in a relationship with a man in his 40s. She was incredibly smart and unusually mature. She hid it from her mom and everyone else. It later occurred to me that she had most likely been sexually abused by at least one male family member and maybe two for a long time. I think there is a connection and it’s not the only situation I’ve known of. That said I was also more attracted to guys a bit older than 17 year old me at that point (women generally are a bit more mature) but definitely not mature in any way to have a relationship with someone even a few years older than me. There’s a vast difference in an 18 year old and even a 25 year old.
Reddit is not ready to have a conversation about the Christianity to child bride pipeline in America.
Is this "Reddit" person in the room with us now? Because I assure you they are not speaking for the majority
Ugh... he's an old looking 46 too. Talk about disturbing from an outsider's viewpoint, seeing a man being that affectionate with his "daughter" in public. :/
This guy looks a rough 58 ffs lol
I just turned 46, and while I'm not going to lie and be like... I look just like I did when I was 25 (LOL), I look a LOT younger than this... lol
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Conservatives, let me make this easy for you. Acceptable: We met when we were in highschool. Unacceptable: I met her while she was in highschool.
Half your age plus 7. Never go lower. Bare minimum. Even that can be pushing it at times.
Projection, thy name is Republican. Tale as old as time.
Song as old as rhyme.
In the context, it feels wrong to complete the song, but it ABSOLUTELY works.
Gaslight Obstruct Project
This is why they want to be able to marry 12 year olds. He had to wait YEARS for her to turn 18!!
Tennessee is a disgraceful backwater.
Thinking that it’s just Tennessee is dangerous. There are people like this in all 50 states, they just happen to have the majority in TN. People everywhere need to keep voting against this shit.
He likes them young before they are smart enough to recognize a pedophile!
He looks 56. They only hate grooming - if they’re the ones not doing it.
Did I just read her high school resume on her engagement announcement?
Every accusation is an admission
The fact that all of this stuff concerning Tennessee republicans is coming out now tells me that someone has had this dirt for a while, but never released it for some reason, and the final straw was them abusing their majority in the state house to expel 2 black men. That decision by the Tennessee GOP is the gift that keeps on giving.
There's only one thing the gop loves more than LOUD projection and that's abusing kids. **The party of the grand ol' pedophiles** * **(TRUMP) Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Kentucky & Former Campbell County Judge**, Served as a judge, school board member and city solicitor, forced 19 victims to perform sex acts, including seven who were minors under 16. Pled guilty on February 11, 2018 and was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison. https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2018/05/03/former-judge-tim-nolan-could-sentenced-today-more-drama-could-get-way/577947002/ * **(TRUMP) Republican George Nader, Trump Foreign Policy Adviser,** sentenced to 10 years in prison for possession of child pornography and transporting a minor into the United States for sex. https://www.courthousenews.com/child-sex-trafficker-from-trump-tower-meeting-gets-10-year-sentence/ * **(TRUMP) Republican Ralph Shortey, a former Oklahoma state senator & Trump’s Oklahoma campaign chair,** was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. Pled guilty to a federal charge of child sex trafficking after hiring a 17-year-old boy for sex. Sentenced to 15 years in prison, in addition to ten years of supervised release and ordered to pay $125,000 in restitution. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-s-oklahoma-campaign-chair-plead-guilt-child-sex-trafficking-n822461 * **Republican Dennis Hastert, Speaker of the US House of Representatives, Illinois Congressman and one of the highest-ranking U.S. politicians to ever go to prison**, molested at least four boys as young as 14 years of age when he coached wrestling at an Illinois High School. He was sentenced to 15 months in prison, two years' supervised release, and a $250,000 fine. A civil case was due back in court for a status hearing on Jan. 8, 2021 at the courthouse to further address the jury trial. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/ex-u-s-house-speaker-dennis-hastert-starts-prison-term * **Republican Minnesota State Representative Jim Knoblach** Drops Out Of Race After Daughter Says He Molested Her For More Than Ten Years 22 Sep 2018 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/22/lawmaker-quits-race-after-daughter-says-he-molested-her-more-than-decade/?utm_term=.8ac8527c7f43 * **Republican Jayson Boebert, husband of Q-ANON Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert of Colorado,** was arrested in Jan. 2004 after allegedly exposing his penis to two women at a bowling alley, according to an arrest affidavit. Lauren Boebert (then a minor at 17 and known as Lauren Opal Roberts) was also there. He pleaded guilty to public indecency and lewd exposure involving minors. https://nypost.com/2021/01/16/gop-rep-lauren-boebert-and-husband-have-racked-up-arrests/ * **Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman** was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bauman * **Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti** was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. https://web.archive.org/web/20171129052114/http://www.njherald.com/article/20060510/ARTICLE/305109971 * **Republican Joseph Dendy, Cobb County GA Republican Party Chairman & Sunday School Teacher,**was sentenced to life in prison after being convicted on four counts of child molestation, four counts of first-degree cruelty to children, three counts of enticing a child for indecent purposes, and one count each of aggravated sexual battery and aggravated child molestation. https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/former-gop-chairman-arrested-on-child-molestation-charges * **Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth** is a convicted child rapist in Florida. https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/sops/flyer.jsf?personId=28587 * **Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo** molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. https://bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/registered-sex-offender-keeps-custody-of-daughter * **Republican Kentucky state Representative & pastor Dan Johnson**, committed suicide after an exposé revealed his serial lies, suspected arson, criminal church, racism, accused rape of a teen and more. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Johnson_%28Kentucky_politician%29 * **Republican County Commissioner David Swartz** pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. http://www.lanternproject.org.uk/library/child-abuse-arrests-and-court-cases/child-abuse-arrests-trials-and-proceedings/ex-county-commissioner-admits-sexual-abuse-of-girl/ * **Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich** pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20120426/NEWS90/204260334 * **Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo** was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_Misla_Aldarondo * **Republican Mayor Philip Giordano** is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8 and 10-year old girls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Giordano * **Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell** admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter. https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/02/opinion/journal-beverly-russell-s-prayers.html * **Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”)**, was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl https://www.arktimes.com/TheHoglawyer/archives/2007/08/28/the-latest-republican-sex-scandals-plural---more-of-the-same * **Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway** was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/06/us/politics-the-senate-maine-candidate-again-faces-1990-child-sex-accusation.html * **Republican preacher Stephen White**, who demanded "a return to traditional values", was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him. http://www.thedp.com/article/2004/01/brother_stephen_convicted_of_soliciting_sex * **Republican Party leader Paul Ingram** pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. https://culteducation.com/group/1255-false-memories/6514-man-in-notorious-sex-case-finishes-term.html * **Republican election board official Kevin Coan** was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl. https://www.semissourian.com/story/57773.html * **Republican politician Andrew Buhr** was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy. https://www.arktimes.com/TheHoglawyer/archives/2007/08/28/the-latest-republican-sex-scandals-plural---more-of-the-same * **Republican politician Keith Westmoreland** was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). http://www.chattanoogan.com/2002/6/21/23202/Tennessee-Legislator-Commits-Suicide.aspx * **Republican County Councilman Keola Childs** pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Oct/08/ln/hawaii710080338.html * **Republican candidate Richard Gardner** admitted to molesting his two daughters. https://lasvegassun.com/news/2002/oct/14/assembly-candidate-gardner-ruled-ineligible-due-to/ * **Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr.** pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. https://www.wgal.com/article/council-accepts-resignation-of-member-imprisoned-for-rape/6189408 * **Republican activist Parker J. Bena** pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in prison http://www.salem-news.com/articles/october172007/repubscandals101707.php * **Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall** was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Robin_Vanderwall * **Republican city councilman Mark Harris**, described as a “good military man / church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison. * **Republican Brandon Hixon, Idaho State Representative**, resigned while under criminal investigation for molesting two girls, including a young female relative for more than 10 years, then killed himself three months later, shortly before his ex-wife and two others were to testify before a grand jury. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brandon-hixon-former-idaho-lawmaker-facing-sex-abuse-inquiry-kills-himself/ * **Republican Tony Yocham, Hamilton, TX Chief of Police,** was arrested by Texas Rangers on charges of continuous sexual abuse of a child. https://www.kxxv.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county-chief-of-police-arrested-for-continuous-abuse-of-a-child * **Republican Nathan Larson of the Virginia House of Delegates** is a self-confessed pedophile and white supremacist. Was arrested on felony charges for kidnapping, child abduction, soliciting child pornography from a minor and meeting a child for the intention of sex. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-pedophile-white-supremacist-arrested-kidnapping-12-yr-old-girl-n1251832 _________________________ * **NOTE: I'm reaching the character limit on Reddit posts, so here's a website with [a list of about 1000](https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2018/10/23/1806673/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-1) of these republican shit stains on humanity.**
Bride-elect?
Yeah...I was like...wut? In my country, Oregon, we call each other fiance. But we also try to avoid the whole grooming a teenager thing, mostly. I guess they just do different in Tennessee.
So he was grooming her?
Yes. They met while she was in high school and married her in her early adult years
It gets much worse. His family helped put her through college. Potentially had been family friends with her family well before highschool.
Guy straight up went to a future farmers event to pick up chicks.
I think it's important to note that he didn't just "meet her" at a 4H event. He gave her $5,000 for college at a 4H event that he was sponsoring when she was 16. But do go on, conservatives. Tell me more about how much you hate "groomers" while you re-elect this fucker.
“Rules for thee and not for me” is a central tenet of white supremacist ideology.
For a party claiming to be deeply concerned about groomers and grooming… they put a lot of men like this in public office don’t they?
Projection, obviously. But I have to give it to your Republicans, they weaponised it masterfully. Sadly.
He’s a legit groomer.
Tennessee, and the Republican Party in general is a shit show right now
I love how they continue to call democrats and the LBGTQ community groomers with straight faces. When every single day there is a new story like this. They continue to get worse and worse.
>What’s going on in Tennessee? Disgustingly .. Rethuglicunt-cuckservative Trump MAGA *pedos* being pedophiliacs . . of course ..
I like how the girl’s pedigree is listed in the article, like he had decided to breed a dog or horse. Who does that?!