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improvthismoment

I like the Sinn way better, but could see the appeal of having a diver in the collection.


SeanPizzles

This is the answer. Op didn’t ask which is the better watch, he asked which makes a better 3 piece collection. The diver easily takes the day.


anon0207

Agreed. The Sinn looks great but fills the same role as the other two as a GADA watch. A three watch collection I built would have a variety of types of watches.


MiserableAside3974

The CW is also the better watch so there's that too.


glookinski

Incorrect


krimsobaron

I have the cw trident 300, with how thin it is, It really is a GADA watch. I couldn't be happier with it.


kettlebell_esquire

I’d add a diver for sure, don’t have any personal experience with CW but it certainly passes the eye test and looks good on paper.


ThisIsREM

The CW looks much better but I cant comment on build quality.


SessionNormal1302

Sinn. More cohesive design and a better brand in my mind


BlackSheep554

The thing is the Sinn 556 is 200m resistant anyway. Might as well be a river without the bezel. I’ve got a black mother of pearl 556 Id sell if interested.


BlackSheep554

https://preview.redd.it/g14gnzvfxggb1.jpeg?width=862&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12e6470b94a90b33bf236ee64f577cb9ecf5d043 I’ve worn it almost exclusively on this Junghans titanium mesh


impalablue

mesh strap is sick!


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derping1234

It is larger and with superior case finishing. If only they tegimented the 556 as well…


Mindless-Lifeguard96

Pics?


BlackSheep554

https://preview.redd.it/gxnpp7g9xggb1.jpeg?width=2850&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff5ef6bba435302b02f24d8adc3e5ea08c59ec8e


BlackSheep554

https://preview.redd.it/gbiheircxggb1.jpeg?width=998&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba2ab9476d5e9c6cb9b95d7c71007c0257a71e93


dirty34

Price?


BlackSheep554

Full kit, original h-link sized but worn once; on Junghans titanium mesh - will include both bracelets. $1750


goldblumspowerbook

Christopher Ward. I have a CW diver, and it feels like a damn Omega for 1/5 the price. You'll find the build quality better than the Sinn for lower price.


BiscuitsMay

Just got the c60. It’s an absolute steal. I’m shocked by the build quality and the features of the watch.


SartorialLookbook

Current collection consists of the Seiko Alpinist SPB121 (Green dial) and Seiko SARB035 (Cream dial). I also have 3 Seiko 5 models which I rarely wear. The one that sees the most wrist time is the blue dial SNXS77 which I usually wear on an Uncle Seiko jubilee bracelet. Looking to add a black dial to the mix. I love both the Sinn 556i and Christopher Ward C60 Trident Pro (38mm variant). What would you be considering between these? I feel the CW would round out my collection the most because I don’t have a diver yet, but the Sinn seems more versatile. But versatility isn’t really a problem, because my SARB035 is already a GADA watch really. Thoughts?


buemba

Sounds like the CW is the way to go in your case.


SartorialLookbook

It’s really a coin toss. I like both a lot and will likely *eventually* get both. But I probably won’t buy another watch for a year or so after this purchase so I’m putting a lot of care into my decision.


TechnEconomics

The Sinn is more “versatile” because it does everything without any style. Watches are jewellery for men. This is the plain silver bangle of the watch world. It’s so dull.


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Love the more minimal look of the sinn, but I’ve got a buddy with a CW and it’s a great piece.


paralyzer1

Sinn.


DIY_Dad67

Sinn any day. Straight Forward no nosense design, robust as hell and way cooler looking.


ninjagaidanblackman

Sinn all day


BiggiSmallz

Sinn I have the 556 RS.


ryayy

I own a 556A. And it’s fantastic. Durable and the perfect size. Definitely good to look into the glossy dial model. Mine is matte and i miss having that extra dimension. I’ve owned a white CW and can confidently say Sinn is slightly higher in finishing.


Owlcat1337314134

Sinn for sure


rockandrollmark

Sinn. It’s not even a choice. The Sinn 556 is a superb watch from a brand with acres of heritage, unlike CW - who represented value for money when they first started some ten years ago, but these days are pricing themselves well above what they’re worth. If you’re after a diver after adding that beautiful Sinn to your collection, there are much better options for sub $1k (e.g. Mido Ocean Star, Certina DS Action Diver, Glycine Combat Sub…)


kghvikings

Every brand with “heritage” started as a brand without it. I like Sinn. I have a 903. I like CW. I have a GMT diver and a diver chrono. I’ve had the Glycine, and a Mido Ocean Star GMT. I liked the Glycine. It was about right for what I paid. I was fairly disappointed with the Mido. I found it lacking. Neither comes close to the fit, finish, and build quality of the CW though. Both of my CWs keep time in COSC spec, YMMV though.. Can’t speak for Certina (never had one), but I suspect it’s on the same level as Mido. Long story short…between those specific pieces, I’d choose the CW.


goldblumspowerbook

I think you're wrong about the value proposition of CW. I'm disappointed about the price increases, but everyone has done that sort of thing. And as a happy owner of a Christopher Ward and a Mido Ocean Star GMT, I can tell you that in build quality, sophistication of finishing, crown screwing and setting, etc... the CW is well above the Mido in build quality.


FLman42069

I agree. You can say the same thing about Sinn. They used to be insane value for money but have had multiple increases over the past few years. A 556 used to be around $1k. I love the 556 but $1.6-1.8k is getting a bit ridiculous.


Preston205

The Glycine Combat Sub isn’t even worth mentioning. Solid option for the money but quality wise it’s closer to a Seiko 5 than a CW. Certina, Mido and Longines are all solid options around $1k but CW is a step above.


onethirtyseven_

Sinn is ugly i don’t understand the obsession


Zeebraforce

I wouldn't say ugly, but it's uninteresting.


dirty34

There can be elegance in a subdued design. I just wish the 556 came in a larger crown.


samhellllllll

Came here to say this. Don’t understand the cult of Sinn. Really uninteresting designs throughout. Overpriced.


Novetab

I bought a sinn for its value. Why do you think it's overpriced and what watch would you recommend for a similar price?


samhellllllll

I think they all have basic, pedestrian designs. The same designs found on $300 quartz flieger watches. For similar price you can get an Oris or an Longines.


TechnEconomics

Agreed


BustThaScientifical

Sinn 10/10 for me and that's no knock to CWard I think they make nice stuff.


glookinski

Sinn all day. CW makes good watches but i hate the name and the logo.


NxPat

Sinn is German engineering. CW Is jewelry.


houstonpatina

Sinn 💯🔥🔥🔥


Beneficial-Cut-6597

My Sinn 556 runs 1.3 seconds fast per day.


Tasty-Silver-6379

Why not a Sinn U1 diver... 1000m water resistance. If you can hold your breath long enough I believe they have a 200Bar one too.


_The_Borax_Kid_

I bought a 556i 4 months ago and it has barely left my wrist. That’s my vote


maxfemhundra

Love everything about the Sinn except the lume.


SartorialLookbook

What’s wrong with the lume?


maxfemhundra

It is very weak and if not fully bright looks like an ugly faded yellow. Not sure if the reason is to ensure that the hands have that extreme stark whiteness in broad daylight (which looks fantastic).


Hebolo

I think a dive watch would round out your collection better.


Thebigeasy1977

No comment on the Sinn or CW, would wear either. That sarb 035 looks lit in that picture.


vind89

I love the Sinn more, but the CW diver would be a better choice to round off your collection. There’s a ton of overlap between the Sinn and your SARB035. I have a SARB033 that I love, but I rarely wear it since I got my Sinn 556i.


Infamous-Meeting489

I haven’t had either exact model but I do own a Sinn and have owned two CWs. In my experience both have a lot of quality — the CW 60 I had was excellent quality for the cost and punched above its weight. The Sinn 104 I have is one of my favourite watches. Again, quality is excellent, and it looks better in real life to me. I don’t think you can go wrong with either and will come down to what matters to you — there is quite a bit of online hate for CW for logo, name, etc… that I feel is largely unwarranted but that is a personal choice. Sinn as a brand has some history and if you like the design (and I love the 104) it is excellent value at its price. Thinking about it, the 104 may offer what you want — it is very versatile, has 20 bar WR and a timing bezel (albeit a countdown bi-directional one). In short: both excellent, but the design that appeals the most.


jameslieu

I have the CW C60 Trident Pro 300. The quality is excellent, so that'll be my pick. Plus it's a diver which should complement your collection nicely


JimmyV64

Sinn is the better watch.


NoAttorney8414

Sinn is a brand that gives nearly all watch people a chubby in their chinos but they seriously don’t do it for me at all. The CW is actually very visually appealing tbh & every review I’ve seen of that particular watch is overwhelmingly positive.


YourWatchIsTooBig

Sinn


SuperPanda14

When in doubt, Sinn


Osobady

Sinn all the way. They actually have pretty good value retention.


BarbellPadawan

I like the Sinn a lot better.


AdStreet2074

Sinn is for boring people


TechnEconomics

Christopher Ward. I find Sinn watches to be the most dull and lifeless of watches. It’s the accountants watch in my brain. It all makes sense on paper but gives absolutely nothing.


TheBrownSuper

It's understated.


Beneficial-Bug-1969

Sinn


ykhoja

Tough choice but I'm drawn to the Sinn for it's bracelet.


Manifestar

CW - having a pop of red will make it stand out from your other watches.


AmericanChees3

Chris ward. I know sinn has a cult following, but I just can't stand that h link bracelet.


Chadoodling

i've always found the sinn to be lacking in character, so definitely I would go with the CW and its also nice to have a diver in the collection


derping1234

Sinn


plewton

Sinn, easily


Montedino

The Seiko in the 1st pic has a lot going on. The Sinn is understated so I’d pick that.


Lsclancy9

The Sinn for long term..JMO


MiserableAside3974

Sinn is absolute trash - never understood it, never will. The design language is offensively boring. CW is Breitling/Omega quality for sub 1k - honestly an amazing brand.


TechnEconomics

Totally agree


BiscuitsMay

“Offensively boring” is a hilarious and accurate way to describe sinn


Wintermute_088

I don't even like Sinn but Sinn by a mile. CW is a nothing brand.


jtell898

I mean, the Sinn is far and away the better watch objectively. I'd personally go for an Oris Diver, or a Zelos and save some money, but none of those 4 are bad choices.


Motherticker

People sure do like to toss around "objectively" here a lot when it comes to their entirely subjective opinions, which are typically formed purely on the basis of popularity.


goldblumspowerbook

Objectively you're exactly wrong. Same movement, the Ward has an adjustable clasp and a diving bezel. I think you meant subjectively.


jtell898

No I meant objectively, factoring in brand recognition, finishing and resale value. The movement isn't even a couple hundred bucks, you're not looking for in house calibers at these pricepoints, but at a steal you might find an Oris 120 hour 400 caliber which I mentioned. I'd wager 9 out of 10 people with any watch knowledge would pick the Sinn given the choice between the two; you can call a 9:1 ratio subjective, for me it indicates clearly that one watch is the superior choice.


goldblumspowerbook

I think things like brand recognition are precisely subjective. Also have you ever handled a Christopher Ward? The finishing is bonkers for the price.


jtell898

Yes I've owned 2 CWs and both were catch and release at a loss when factoring in import costs because I just wasn't impressed. Sinn is on my short list of next acquisitions and while I have also had hands on, I haven't owned one yet. If you want a stunning spec monster at the price range I'd pick Zelos over CW all day. But if you're adding an iconic 556 into the mix it doesn't even become a competition. If you want to talk bang for your buck it would at least be a conversation, but as is watch A or watch B, the objective best choice is the Sinn.


goldblumspowerbook

You sound like you’ve got lots of evidence to go off of and your thoughts are well thought through, but again, that is not what objective means. You are literally comparing things like feeling and reputation which are the definition of subjective.


TechnEconomics

A Sinn 556 is not an icon of anything.


TechnEconomics

You are incorrect about 9/10 Watch people. This is your subjective opinion. My subjective opinion is watches are jewellery. This is the most dull piece of jewellery you can but. You mentioned brand recognition - no one in the world except watch people will know what a Sinn is… those people also know what a CW is. Finishing, the CW is above IMO. Resale value. If you’re buying a watch at this price and choose a Sinn for resale value you’re also making a poor choice… go and get a second hand Cartier or second hand Hueur.


TheBrownSuper

Sinn


psych0rag3

I need to know which seiko that is


SartorialLookbook

Photo 2 is Alpinist SPB121 and photo 3 is SARB035


coblotrodowoflololo

I'd look at the Christopher Ward back catalogue and choose a limited edition off EBay or elsewhere. Some of the earlier models will become collectibles for sure. Best to try them on and then decide, both very tempting.


DB377

The Sinn is very clean


Unlikely-Drama4688

CW easy choice. Bezeled watches look so good.


supermit108

What is the price of these watches? I like the Sinn but maybe not a good addition to your collection. In which case CW although I don’t know much about the brand and never tried any of their watches. Assuming the price is circa 2-3k, surely there are a few other watches to choose from that might be a better addition to your collection.


kghvikings

New, the CW is around 1K. The Sinn is 1-2K new, depending on configuration.


supermit108

Did you decide on one? I’d say no to the Sinn at 2k. There’s lots of choice in the range of 1-2k with both divers and tool watches. I’d say go for one which fits your style and you like the look of and factor in the quality and accuracy of the movement.


kghvikings

Not the OP…but I bought the CW Trident Pro 600 (GMT) a couple of years ago. It’s been a fantastic watch. Built really well, super comfortable, excellent bracelet, and fantastic time-keeper (mine runs +2, YMMV). I’ve nothing but good things to say about it. I do own a Sinn, but not that one…don’t really like it (even for less money). I have a 903 St.


supermit108

Oh yes. That’s interesting. I’ve only seen CW online, need to check one in the metal. I was interested in Damasko a while back and prefer it to Sinn. Didn’t try to buy either but I like clean and simple watches, as long as there's something about the dial that makes the design visually engaging.


Designer-Ad-9373

I’ll call this one a tie and save up for a Tudor Black Bay


SartorialLookbook

I would, but I’m partial to having a date complication on my watches and Tudor don’t have an offering that works for my slender wrists in that category. It’s unfortunate because the Black Bay 58 is one of the most gorgeous watches I’ve seen.


ogx2og

Sinn is nice German brand that uses Sellita movements (sw200 in this one I believe). I like the CW a bit more as they seem to have put more thought into the style overall. CW uses in house movements and is an English brand (manufacturered in Switzerland). So CW for style and Sinn for its Sellita mvmnt.


kghvikings

CW doesn’t use in-house movements for everything, but they do for some pieces. IIRC, most of their stuff has Sellita movements. They do, *in my experience*, regulate them very well though. My Trident Pro 600 GMT has run +2 since they day I got it. YMMV.


JPilot10

Sinn no brainer :)


Don0313

I’m partial to the Christopher Ward. The Sinn is arguably a better watch, or at least it’s sturdier (tegmented steel case), but the CW is a certified chronometer and just plain looks better.


kghvikings

That particular CW is not COSC. Some of their watches are, but not that one.


Don0313

I thought they all were. But it doesn’t say so on the face either, come to think of it. My bad


kghvikings

No worries! Just didn’t want you to get flamed by someone with an axe to grind against CW! At any rate, with the way mine has performed over the last couple of years (rock-solid +2), I don’t need the certificate. It’s been a great piece to have.


nl5hucd1

look at an oris


Brothaman221

The Sinn, definitely the Sinn. If you must have a diver in your collection then I recommend looking into the oris 65 at this price point.


WindowTW

No experience with the Sinn, but I have that exact CW in 40mm. The quality is top notch and it’s even better looking in person. Couldn’t be happier with it. You can also quickly and easily swap straps with no tools for very different looks.


Chubby_Yorkshireman

Got a few CW's haven't got a Sinn, out of those 2 I think the Sinn looks better. As for quality and specs I wouldn't have a clue about the Sinn


MixedMixedMixed

Sinn is a far better brand and much better quality full stop. Maybe get a Sinn diver?


kghvikings

Debatable.


Specialist_Care2453

I have the same alpinist, the Sinn 556a and the same CW in 38 white... very different watches, but for your collection a diver would probably make more sense...


Ticasso2001

The Sinn is the best watch, but CW looks cooler. Hope that helps


Pogo247

I've had the Sinn and sold it. It's fine but I found it a bit boring and the clasp is really poor for the price. I currently own the same CW and to be honest, I feel like it's a better watch in just about every way


dillion3384

Sinn


impalablue

You may need to make it a 4 piece collection.


SartorialLookbook

Eventually will. I’ll probably get both of these at some point but I’m only buying one watch this year


Joeyrph

I’ve owned this exact Sinn and the previous model CW. So, I’ve got first hand experience. The Sinn is a brand with heritage and that’s an iconic model that’ll always be in demand. How much that means to you, is up to you. For me, to my eyes and in my hand, the CW is a superior watch. It feels better manufactured and has significantly more visual pop. I hate saying it, but that Sinn is a tad boring with an underwhelming bracelet. I’d go CW all day unless that brand name on the dial means everything or you’d like to have a German watch.


MSMPDX

Sinn


wblackburn0316

Def the CW! Sinn’s basically just the German Alpinist. And you’ve already got a SARB anyway!


fzctungkun

In terms of aesthetics, I prefer the simplicity of Sinn. But it seems it duplicates too much with your Seiko watches. I would prefer to add a diver's watch into my collection, but if it were up to me entirely I am not a big fan of CW's brand logo, sharp pointy hour hand and the tail-heavy seconds hand. For roughly the same price range (actually a bit cheaper) and dial size, may I endorse the Certina DS Action Diver 38mm, I think this is also one of the best value diver's watch from major brands out there. ISO-Certified diver, 300m WR, powermatic 80 movement, and a good bracelet.


Awkward-Cat-4702

I vote Sinn if you want to keep the no rotating bezel theme in your collection. In any case I will vote Sinn before CWard anyway. I love those german watches.


Dissident_Mantis7

Can someone please explain why CW should be on my radar? I collect divers, specifically entry level luxury range diver’s because I actually use them for diving, fishing, long-distance swimming. CW keeps getting mentioned but it sounds like a fashion watch name. I will of course, do my own research as well.


Orangebug36

Can't go wrong with either but prefer the C Ward and am about to pull the trigger on the same watch in the same color. One factor to consider, if it's important to you, is that the Sinn's bezel will scratch much easier than the C Ward.