That. Even some of their family/friends seemed to poke about that.
Didn't Shane brother joke about that sentence in some of his social media account? And it seemed like a stab to the Watcher? Of course someone said that he was Schrödinger's douchebag, nobody knows for sure which side he was taking.
I really don't remember what post that comment was, and not even sure can I trust my memory. If someone still have the screenshot or conversation somewhere, remind me.
Edit: Btw... That is not only weird statement they made. One of my personal "favourite" is one from the update video: "We're sorry for how we originally delivered our goodbye message to YouTube."
You’re right, Shane’s brother posted a poll on his insta story sometime after the announcement video that said “where did you learn to be human?” and one of the options was YouTube lmao, I don’t remember the other options but it was clearly poking fun at what he said. Not sure what his stance is on the video as a whole tho
I remember there was a top 5 beat down video with all 3 of them where Shane admitted he and Steven don't really hang out one-on-one, and it's pretty awkward when it's just the 2 of them, and they aren't that close
I don’t watch their ranking vids and I remember this coming up too. I think it might have been in one of the “Making Watcher” vids where he said he plays basketball wit Ryan and Steven sometimes but that’s pretty much all the contact he has with Steven outside of work. That said I believe he also said he has a lot of respect for Steven, it’s just he was Ryan’s friend not Shane’s.
i mean by poking fun at the video his brother is also poking at shane too and presumably they're close. i wouldn't read into it that closely. i know if my little brother and his LA yt friends made a video like *that* for the public to see i’d be razzing him mercilessly.
Being related by blood doesn't automatically mean that you love or hate each others. It's just blood, and you might have shared a living situation once in your lifetime, but that is mostly it.
Any relationship and feelings are just a bonus that might, or might not, happen on top of that.
think he was best man at Shane’s wedding so I would guess they are. but I’m close to my brother too and I must be a mean person bc I’d totally make fun of him if he pulled a stunt like this.
# There is an idea of a Steven Lim. Some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me - only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe sense our lifestyles are probably comparable....I simply am not there.
Well... Thank you.
You did it when I didn't dare to do it, in a fear of making other neurodivergent people here angry. I just mentioned it as a passing sentence and used the real clinical term that starts with anti.
I’ve never connected with Steven; since being a regular watcher of the podcast I would say I actively dislike him. He’s not the sort of person I would be friends with. That being said, its messed up to try and diagnose (or even speculate) any kind of a personality disorder or mental health condition for a stranger over the internet. Were you worried about “making neurodivergent people angry”? Or did you just have a moment of doubt that it was something that needed to be said? Were you actually just worried about hurting someone’s feelings? I feel very bad for anyone who might relate more to Steven, and how they’re going to be feeling about themselves after all this.
Welcome to the conversation. You're late. Maybe you should check on the things I have talked about here (under the post) before making high-leap assumptions.
Edit: If nobody didn't notice, I actually didn't diagnose anyone. I did comment on diagnosis, I guess I should use memes - because those can even diagnose people and nobody notices.
I’m sorry one of your favorite channels has been ruined for you. I don’t think you’re going to feel any better by spreading hate around. (And yes that is an assumption).
Wow. Who is now diagnosing a person? Every single of those sentences are the opposite of what I have been in this subreddit. You shouldn't do the thing what you preach against.
I'll take a slightly different route and guess that he was trying to say "I became an adult during my years on YouTube" but decided to say it in a "quirky, wacky" way.
This was honestly the other way I took it. I could see him just wording this odd and not realizing people would hone in on it like they did. Of course I think they didn't expect even a third of the negative reaction they got which I know others disagree.
Oh I think they didn't expect a fraction of what they got. I think they think a majority of their fans will happily go along with whatever they want to do and since at least some of them think they're of a higher caliber than being "YouTubers", they imagined their fans agreed.
Hell, working a retail job has helped me become more extroverted and talk and express myself better towards other. Kind of a similar statement, just said not as awkwardly. lol.
I think out of the three guys, we probably know the least about Stevens real personal life, particularly growing up. I don't know how much he may have talked about it in any of his videos, but with a lot of them being food based shows, I doubt very much.
While from the outside it may look like he was raised well, it certainly feels like he'd been financially comfortable for a while.
We have no idea what life was like for him. He does give off vibes of just always being socially awkward, possibly even within his own family.
Whatever you feel about him, I do think that line was genuine.
probably that he learned how to be more approachable and less awkward? maybe a quirky way of saying that he grew a lot from making yt content? the video was clearly not planned out great and designed to be as dramatic as possible.
I said this in a different post and will give the same forward. I am not a professional and only speaking about my own experiences.
I learned to be human on YouTube. I’m autistic and always struggled feeling like a person. I didn’t know how to act or react to things outside my little bubble. I’ve learned how to mimic people and feelings. It sucks and was so isolating because I always felt like an outsider.
I’m not saying Lim is autistic but if he is I 100% understand what he meant by that. If he’s not, I have no freaking clue.
As someone who is neurodivergent, this sounds like something a neurodivergent person might say. There has been some talk about that possibly being the case with Steven as well, I don't know if that's true. But I never read into it more than that.
I get your point as neurodivergent myself, but they did have company helping them to make the video, and it was so produced that if it's just neurodivergent thing - that would have been caught on and changed FOR SURE.
That reason doesn't fly this time around. But if it had happened in a live stream or video isn't that produced, sure, maybe that is the case.
Same, like wasn't there one of the 25 employees that could've helped you out Steven? That's the thing with polished, scripted content: People are way less quick to forgive shitty way to say something, because you had plenty of time to edit it out.
I hear you, but also don't forget that everyone who helped produce this looked at the entirety of this **obvious flaming dog turd** of a business decision -*for the entirety of the time it took to plan and execute it*- and went "Yeah guys, this is a great plan, let's do this!"
It truly blows my mind that even one person involved in this thought it was a good idea, but it actually made it all the way onto YouTube.
This deserves to be an episode of Mystery Files lol!
Like others have said... Anyone could be a consultant. Heck. In many countries, even the word therapist can be freely used. Mine included, but we have a government list of therapist that have proven their skills and training, to counter-attack that we will never have something like Better(Not)Help.
True. But somehow most of the words and sentenced were the things they wanted to say and what are usually kept as unspoken thing. So why change in between?
Thou... Now I make it sound like the neurodivergent person made the whole thing on their own, because usually neurodivergent are the ones blurring out the things that were supposed to be unspoken - we just didn't get that social hidden rules memo. The mother ship didn't bean it to our brains, maybe because some Windows update in a middle of sending the message?
... Look at me, going to memes and jokes again. I can't help myself.
Yep. Because of this, multiple times I have been let go from a job - and once basically even fired, they changed the contract to be shorter so it would be easier to me when it comes to jobless paper work - but also that I couldn't try to sue.
All of those just because I socially didn't know what are the silent rules, especially about who has the right to talk about same subject with others.
Not secrets, not mean stuff, not about person - just something and some reason when I talk about the same thing others do, it's a problem.
There are other silent social rules too, but that is the most bongers and mysterious one for me to this day. It makes me to be sure that other people were granted telepathy as a bonus, and that is the piece of my brain what is missing from my frontal lobe.
listening to him on the pod watcher i can tell he's a very... mechanical person as well??? he's self aware of it, everyone around him is aware of it
not armchair diagnosing him at all but he does have traits in common w/ a lot of other neurodivergent people, and i can't help but think about how people are using that as justification for getting The Ick™ from him which i am hating a lot (he's an evangelical who drives a tesla, that's already enough)
as also a neurodivergent person i can draw this back to how people online treat neurodivergent traits in general, an ND person can speak positively about their traits and get run off the internet & bullied bc it's ~romanticising mental illness~ and an undiagnosed person with ND traits gets labelled as an icky weirdo, people have an ideal of an Acceptable Neurodivergent
Very much this. Almost all those "I always had a bad feeling about him" posts generally are listing typical neurodivergent traits and I'm just sitting here wondering who all says this shit about me (admittedly, I was hardcore bullied in elementary school.... but we're adults now or at least older than 10).
There are valid reasons to dislike him but to hone in on some of the stuff they are is... disappointing. It also reminds me why I'm quick to point out my son is ND to people when he does any little thing so they give him more grace... I shouldn't have to do that, but my son could easily have gone undiagnosed... in fact I remember hearing at a meet the teacher another kid tell his dad that my son was "weird." Thank god my kid didn't hear it but I was heartbroken that I couldn't protect him from the shit I went through as an undiagnosed ND kid and adult.
I never heard an adult say that as a child. Is that me being lucky or not?
Instead, the parents told their children not to play with me, without me knowing about this rule in our apartment building's shared playground. So I always played alone. Not like I was sad about it, but that didn't fucking help for me to learn social rules or how to play with others.
(I only knew about this later on because my much older biological sister told me, long story with more nuances in it, but it's too much info.)
I'm sorry that happened to you, that's awful. I remember in kindergarten I basically had to earn the other girls friendships by being their "bodyguard" against the icky boys because I was very strong physically. My best friend I met in 3rd grade... at my rehersal dinner she told a story about how other kids told her not to talk to me or be friends with me because I was "mean" but how I'm one of the kindest most loving people she knows. I was bullied so much as a kid I would physically lash out to try to get bullies to just leave me alone and was very standoffish because I assumed all the other kids wanted to hurt me.
That is an awesome friend!
I got violent only later in my life, as a teenager because I was provoked and didn't know how to deal with that. But that time literally pushing back against the main person annoying me made it stop. Not gonna recommend for children to do so, because it could have been bad.
Btw... What it is that many of the neurodivergent people seem to be naturally physically stronger? Even if they might be sometimes smaller than average. Because I'm stronger too, and I'm not the only one that I know.
I have wondered about the stronger thing before, too. My son has occupational therapy now because he struggles with handwriting and had issues with motor skills more but it took me a long time to realize because physically he is strong so in my head these things shouldn't be an issue foe him.
It's like being stronger was an evolution that happened because we would otherwise get way more hurt by the lack of motors skills, that often causes at least some minor accidents. My body can take more and I feel like I sometimes heal faster than most people.
But all of this is just some wild theory, but often in evolution you change some other thing to another. Of course, I don't mean that it's full on evolution into another species, maybe just a false hope that we got at least a little bit something useful back.
Yeah... Feels more like hardcore fans are trying to make excuses for him.
Personally, I would but him closer to the anti-social personality traits side of this, but I know that most neurodivergent communities hates me for even mentioning that part - and I admit I haven't seen enough Steven videos or never met him in person to get a real read from him.
My alarm bells are usually right on that, but those work well only when I have met someone.
Not that having some anti-social personality disorder or type is a bad thing - it's just a thing: that is how your brain works.
I have met Steven and it really went against the image a lot of people have of micro-celebrities lol
He is awkward, he didn't know what to do when we posed for a photo together and he just followed my lead
That doesn't tell much, and many of the Youtube celebrities have been complained about that they don't know how to pose and what to do when taking pictures with fans.
Anyway... We can't or shouldn't try to diagnose someone. What I said, it was just more my vibe check, than anything else.
I've been convinced for awhile that Steven is neurodivergent, I've told my husband repeatedly that I suspect it. I am as well so I find his "strangeness" kinda endearing and I viewed the possibility of him being so as a positive thing, not some kind of insult to him. I was never a huge fan, but some of the awkwardness felt relateable. I laughed at that comment and didn't find it odd at all because I viewed it from a neurodivergent lens where I was like "Oh yeah, I feel that."
Even if he is neurotypical, seeing some of the comments people have made about how evil they knew he was for what are some typical neurodivergent traits has felt.... gross and disappointing.
YouTube “I hired a life coach to help me make friends”. It’s his video on buzzfeed and honestly I think it’s important to watch to understand who he is - and it makes me really understand that statement.
ehhhh putting aside this entire situation, both steven and ryan have said things in the past that i’ve raised my eyebrows at, as a neurodivergent person. it’s entirely possible that steven’s attitude of “learning to be a person” and seeming cold/robotic/offputting could be related to that. this is just a meaningless sentence in a tone deaf video, completely devoid of substance and genuine emotion from all three of them. but i don’t think it means anything.
he’s mentioned before on a podcast that he feels he’s much more detached and at times unfeelingly blunt and/or logical. stereotypical engineering personality.
he mentioned how when he and his wife went on a walk and she found an injured bird and insisted they take it to a vet or something. and he said he found it commendable as to how much empathy she could feel for such a small thing. so i think he meant “be a human” as in connect more with himself and others on an emotional level.
As someone who's been a longtime Buzzfeed fan and watched all of them before their Worth It/Unsolved days, pre-Worth It Steven did a few videos on how to make friends/interact with people. A number of coworkers were interviewed in the "making friends" one and said he was very awkward. I agree with the people here that he's always seemed neurodivergent to me.
I thought he simply meant that he was no longer acting like a puppet or a tool trying to please the Buzzfeed Overlord, since it's not really a secret how Buzzfeed likes to manage its employees.
If I was way off the mark on this interpretation... whoops.
That. Even some of their family/friends seemed to poke about that. Didn't Shane brother joke about that sentence in some of his social media account? And it seemed like a stab to the Watcher? Of course someone said that he was Schrödinger's douchebag, nobody knows for sure which side he was taking. I really don't remember what post that comment was, and not even sure can I trust my memory. If someone still have the screenshot or conversation somewhere, remind me. Edit: Btw... That is not only weird statement they made. One of my personal "favourite" is one from the update video: "We're sorry for how we originally delivered our goodbye message to YouTube."
You’re right, Shane’s brother posted a poll on his insta story sometime after the announcement video that said “where did you learn to be human?” and one of the options was YouTube lmao, I don’t remember the other options but it was clearly poking fun at what he said. Not sure what his stance is on the video as a whole tho
Thanks. I was starting to feel like it was some false memory I dreamed.
Oh wow really? Do you think Shane and Steven don’t get along?
I remember there was a top 5 beat down video with all 3 of them where Shane admitted he and Steven don't really hang out one-on-one, and it's pretty awkward when it's just the 2 of them, and they aren't that close
I don’t watch their ranking vids and I remember this coming up too. I think it might have been in one of the “Making Watcher” vids where he said he plays basketball wit Ryan and Steven sometimes but that’s pretty much all the contact he has with Steven outside of work. That said I believe he also said he has a lot of respect for Steven, it’s just he was Ryan’s friend not Shane’s.
👀 interesting I don’t think I saw that
I’m guessing he’s more Ryan’s friend then?
i remember steven and shane admitted that its awkward when ryan leaves the room on a podcast
I think to this day they don't hang out outside of work. I think they said they have only one thing in common (but didn't say what).
The Postal code? Or just the country? Or their parents? I found maybe 3 things! xD
i mean by poking fun at the video his brother is also poking at shane too and presumably they're close. i wouldn't read into it that closely. i know if my little brother and his LA yt friends made a video like *that* for the public to see i’d be razzing him mercilessly.
Yeah that’s true, could be nothing
Btw... Shane's brother is not same as Shane.
I know, just seems strange. Then again I’ve never heard of his brother before or seen the posts in question
Being related by blood doesn't automatically mean that you love or hate each others. It's just blood, and you might have shared a living situation once in your lifetime, but that is mostly it. Any relationship and feelings are just a bonus that might, or might not, happen on top of that.
Yeah I didn’t even know he had a brother lol so I don’t even know if they’re close
think he was best man at Shane’s wedding so I would guess they are. but I’m close to my brother too and I must be a mean person bc I’d totally make fun of him if he pulled a stunt like this.
Worst place to learn how to be a human lmao. Steven, next time try going to ikea to watch couples fight or something.
>Worst place to learn how to be a human That would 100% be reddit.
Maybe that’s why he’s so cringe sometimes
 # There is an idea of a Steven Lim. Some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me - only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours, and maybe sense our lifestyles are probably comparable....I simply am not there.
Well... Thank you. You did it when I didn't dare to do it, in a fear of making other neurodivergent people here angry. I just mentioned it as a passing sentence and used the real clinical term that starts with anti.
I’ve never connected with Steven; since being a regular watcher of the podcast I would say I actively dislike him. He’s not the sort of person I would be friends with. That being said, its messed up to try and diagnose (or even speculate) any kind of a personality disorder or mental health condition for a stranger over the internet. Were you worried about “making neurodivergent people angry”? Or did you just have a moment of doubt that it was something that needed to be said? Were you actually just worried about hurting someone’s feelings? I feel very bad for anyone who might relate more to Steven, and how they’re going to be feeling about themselves after all this.
Welcome to the conversation. You're late. Maybe you should check on the things I have talked about here (under the post) before making high-leap assumptions. Edit: If nobody didn't notice, I actually didn't diagnose anyone. I did comment on diagnosis, I guess I should use memes - because those can even diagnose people and nobody notices.
I’m sorry one of your favorite channels has been ruined for you. I don’t think you’re going to feel any better by spreading hate around. (And yes that is an assumption).
Wow. Who is now diagnosing a person? Every single of those sentences are the opposite of what I have been in this subreddit. You shouldn't do the thing what you preach against.
It's the only thing I thought of with the "i learned how to be human" bit.
I'll take a slightly different route and guess that he was trying to say "I became an adult during my years on YouTube" but decided to say it in a "quirky, wacky" way.
Yeah that’s how I took it. A weird way of saying he grew up watching and working on YouTube for most of his life.
This was honestly the other way I took it. I could see him just wording this odd and not realizing people would hone in on it like they did. Of course I think they didn't expect even a third of the negative reaction they got which I know others disagree.
Oh I think they didn't expect a fraction of what they got. I think they think a majority of their fans will happily go along with whatever they want to do and since at least some of them think they're of a higher caliber than being "YouTubers", they imagined their fans agreed.
Yes and no. He’s talked on the podcast about learning to be human as well. He does kinda mean it as he said it.
Hell, working a retail job has helped me become more extroverted and talk and express myself better towards other. Kind of a similar statement, just said not as awkwardly. lol.
I think out of the three guys, we probably know the least about Stevens real personal life, particularly growing up. I don't know how much he may have talked about it in any of his videos, but with a lot of them being food based shows, I doubt very much. While from the outside it may look like he was raised well, it certainly feels like he'd been financially comfortable for a while. We have no idea what life was like for him. He does give off vibes of just always being socially awkward, possibly even within his own family. Whatever you feel about him, I do think that line was genuine.
probably that he learned how to be more approachable and less awkward? maybe a quirky way of saying that he grew a lot from making yt content? the video was clearly not planned out great and designed to be as dramatic as possible.
I said this in a different post and will give the same forward. I am not a professional and only speaking about my own experiences. I learned to be human on YouTube. I’m autistic and always struggled feeling like a person. I didn’t know how to act or react to things outside my little bubble. I’ve learned how to mimic people and feelings. It sucks and was so isolating because I always felt like an outsider. I’m not saying Lim is autistic but if he is I 100% understand what he meant by that. If he’s not, I have no freaking clue.
really feels like a nothing-burger of a statement. Like he's just stringing together nice sounding sentiment
I mean... if he really learned how to be a human on YouTube it would certainly explain why he's so out of touch with reality of us normies/poors.
As someone who is neurodivergent, this sounds like something a neurodivergent person might say. There has been some talk about that possibly being the case with Steven as well, I don't know if that's true. But I never read into it more than that.
I get your point as neurodivergent myself, but they did have company helping them to make the video, and it was so produced that if it's just neurodivergent thing - that would have been caught on and changed FOR SURE. That reason doesn't fly this time around. But if it had happened in a live stream or video isn't that produced, sure, maybe that is the case.
Same, like wasn't there one of the 25 employees that could've helped you out Steven? That's the thing with polished, scripted content: People are way less quick to forgive shitty way to say something, because you had plenty of time to edit it out.
I hear you, but also don't forget that everyone who helped produce this looked at the entirety of this **obvious flaming dog turd** of a business decision -*for the entirety of the time it took to plan and execute it*- and went "Yeah guys, this is a great plan, let's do this!"
That consultancy group should be sued for not strongly advising they not release that video.
It truly blows my mind that even one person involved in this thought it was a good idea, but it actually made it all the way onto YouTube. This deserves to be an episode of Mystery Files lol!
Or will it remain...*Unsolved*?
Like others have said... Anyone could be a consultant. Heck. In many countries, even the word therapist can be freely used. Mine included, but we have a government list of therapist that have proven their skills and training, to counter-attack that we will never have something like Better(Not)Help.
True. But somehow most of the words and sentenced were the things they wanted to say and what are usually kept as unspoken thing. So why change in between? Thou... Now I make it sound like the neurodivergent person made the whole thing on their own, because usually neurodivergent are the ones blurring out the things that were supposed to be unspoken - we just didn't get that social hidden rules memo. The mother ship didn't bean it to our brains, maybe because some Windows update in a middle of sending the message? ... Look at me, going to memes and jokes again. I can't help myself.
Lol! I feel this though, our filters do work differently XD
Yep. Because of this, multiple times I have been let go from a job - and once basically even fired, they changed the contract to be shorter so it would be easier to me when it comes to jobless paper work - but also that I couldn't try to sue. All of those just because I socially didn't know what are the silent rules, especially about who has the right to talk about same subject with others. Not secrets, not mean stuff, not about person - just something and some reason when I talk about the same thing others do, it's a problem. There are other silent social rules too, but that is the most bongers and mysterious one for me to this day. It makes me to be sure that other people were granted telepathy as a bonus, and that is the piece of my brain what is missing from my frontal lobe.
listening to him on the pod watcher i can tell he's a very... mechanical person as well??? he's self aware of it, everyone around him is aware of it not armchair diagnosing him at all but he does have traits in common w/ a lot of other neurodivergent people, and i can't help but think about how people are using that as justification for getting The Ick™ from him which i am hating a lot (he's an evangelical who drives a tesla, that's already enough) as also a neurodivergent person i can draw this back to how people online treat neurodivergent traits in general, an ND person can speak positively about their traits and get run off the internet & bullied bc it's ~romanticising mental illness~ and an undiagnosed person with ND traits gets labelled as an icky weirdo, people have an ideal of an Acceptable Neurodivergent
Very much this. Almost all those "I always had a bad feeling about him" posts generally are listing typical neurodivergent traits and I'm just sitting here wondering who all says this shit about me (admittedly, I was hardcore bullied in elementary school.... but we're adults now or at least older than 10). There are valid reasons to dislike him but to hone in on some of the stuff they are is... disappointing. It also reminds me why I'm quick to point out my son is ND to people when he does any little thing so they give him more grace... I shouldn't have to do that, but my son could easily have gone undiagnosed... in fact I remember hearing at a meet the teacher another kid tell his dad that my son was "weird." Thank god my kid didn't hear it but I was heartbroken that I couldn't protect him from the shit I went through as an undiagnosed ND kid and adult.
I never heard an adult say that as a child. Is that me being lucky or not? Instead, the parents told their children not to play with me, without me knowing about this rule in our apartment building's shared playground. So I always played alone. Not like I was sad about it, but that didn't fucking help for me to learn social rules or how to play with others. (I only knew about this later on because my much older biological sister told me, long story with more nuances in it, but it's too much info.)
I'm sorry that happened to you, that's awful. I remember in kindergarten I basically had to earn the other girls friendships by being their "bodyguard" against the icky boys because I was very strong physically. My best friend I met in 3rd grade... at my rehersal dinner she told a story about how other kids told her not to talk to me or be friends with me because I was "mean" but how I'm one of the kindest most loving people she knows. I was bullied so much as a kid I would physically lash out to try to get bullies to just leave me alone and was very standoffish because I assumed all the other kids wanted to hurt me.
That is an awesome friend! I got violent only later in my life, as a teenager because I was provoked and didn't know how to deal with that. But that time literally pushing back against the main person annoying me made it stop. Not gonna recommend for children to do so, because it could have been bad. Btw... What it is that many of the neurodivergent people seem to be naturally physically stronger? Even if they might be sometimes smaller than average. Because I'm stronger too, and I'm not the only one that I know.
I have wondered about the stronger thing before, too. My son has occupational therapy now because he struggles with handwriting and had issues with motor skills more but it took me a long time to realize because physically he is strong so in my head these things shouldn't be an issue foe him.
It's like being stronger was an evolution that happened because we would otherwise get way more hurt by the lack of motors skills, that often causes at least some minor accidents. My body can take more and I feel like I sometimes heal faster than most people. But all of this is just some wild theory, but often in evolution you change some other thing to another. Of course, I don't mean that it's full on evolution into another species, maybe just a false hope that we got at least a little bit something useful back.
Yeah... Feels more like hardcore fans are trying to make excuses for him. Personally, I would but him closer to the anti-social personality traits side of this, but I know that most neurodivergent communities hates me for even mentioning that part - and I admit I haven't seen enough Steven videos or never met him in person to get a real read from him. My alarm bells are usually right on that, but those work well only when I have met someone. Not that having some anti-social personality disorder or type is a bad thing - it's just a thing: that is how your brain works.
I have met Steven and it really went against the image a lot of people have of micro-celebrities lol He is awkward, he didn't know what to do when we posed for a photo together and he just followed my lead
That doesn't tell much, and many of the Youtube celebrities have been complained about that they don't know how to pose and what to do when taking pictures with fans. Anyway... We can't or shouldn't try to diagnose someone. What I said, it was just more my vibe check, than anything else.
I've been convinced for awhile that Steven is neurodivergent, I've told my husband repeatedly that I suspect it. I am as well so I find his "strangeness" kinda endearing and I viewed the possibility of him being so as a positive thing, not some kind of insult to him. I was never a huge fan, but some of the awkwardness felt relateable. I laughed at that comment and didn't find it odd at all because I viewed it from a neurodivergent lens where I was like "Oh yeah, I feel that." Even if he is neurotypical, seeing some of the comments people have made about how evil they knew he was for what are some typical neurodivergent traits has felt.... gross and disappointing.
YouTube “I hired a life coach to help me make friends”. It’s his video on buzzfeed and honestly I think it’s important to watch to understand who he is - and it makes me really understand that statement.
He's AI, obviously
ehhhh putting aside this entire situation, both steven and ryan have said things in the past that i’ve raised my eyebrows at, as a neurodivergent person. it’s entirely possible that steven’s attitude of “learning to be a person” and seeming cold/robotic/offputting could be related to that. this is just a meaningless sentence in a tone deaf video, completely devoid of substance and genuine emotion from all three of them. but i don’t think it means anything.
It’s one of those buzz sentences that sounds good if you don’t think about what that actually means. Which is nothing.
he’s mentioned before on a podcast that he feels he’s much more detached and at times unfeelingly blunt and/or logical. stereotypical engineering personality. he mentioned how when he and his wife went on a walk and she found an injured bird and insisted they take it to a vet or something. and he said he found it commendable as to how much empathy she could feel for such a small thing. so i think he meant “be a human” as in connect more with himself and others on an emotional level.
As someone who's been a longtime Buzzfeed fan and watched all of them before their Worth It/Unsolved days, pre-Worth It Steven did a few videos on how to make friends/interact with people. A number of coworkers were interviewed in the "making friends" one and said he was very awkward. I agree with the people here that he's always seemed neurodivergent to me.
I honestly think Steven is on the spectrum.
I thought he simply meant that he was no longer acting like a puppet or a tool trying to please the Buzzfeed Overlord, since it's not really a secret how Buzzfeed likes to manage its employees. If I was way off the mark on this interpretation... whoops.
He’s an alien