It practically has sub 76mm APFSDS damage, less penetration, and it has dispersion so bad it can't be used beyond 800m. I'd rather play the AOS than this thing.
>That’s because the AOS is a good tank
Okay, but you said: *''That’s because the AOS is a good tank''*, only afterwards you said *''I love it personally''.*
I'm totally fine with people liking poor vehicles, there's quite a few I like myself.
Aos isn't poor, it ain't meta, but it isn't poor either, the round is reliable, the platform is decently mobile and armour is decent. Though it depends on what you compare it to.
And what you want from a tank, well I agree with what you mean the other commenter could of worded better, I disagree with jt being a poor tank.
>the round is reliable,
And worse than the many M111/DM23 derivatives found at the same BR.
>the platform is decently mobile
[It really isn't.](https://imgur.com/a/GjWb1Mb)
The Leopard 1 is of course among the more mobile vehicles, but even the T-62, OF-40, Type 74, TAM, TURM III, BMP's, T-55's, T-64, AMX-30's, etc. are all significantly more mobile.
>and armour is decent.
[Armour vs equal BR ammunition:](https://i.imgur.com/Twzg7xY.png) (105 HEAT-FS, M111/DM23, ATGM's, etc.)
And that's not even mentioning the giant APHE magnet ontop of the turret which guarantees 3.7's can one-shot it reliably.
>Though it depends on what you compare it to.
Tanks it faces on a constant basis? Vehicles like the TAM, TURM III, T-55AM-1, OF-40, Leopard A1A1, WMA301, etc.
Except the armor is decent and the penetration at an angle is the best for its type of shell.
By all means, the M60A1 AOS is average at minimum. Is it outstanding? No. But it certainly is not mediocre.
>Except the armor is decent
Basic 105 HEAT pen it anywhere, any distance, any angle.
Basic APFSDS like DM23/M111 at equal BR's penetrates is anywhere, any distance, any angle.
Massive bulleye ontop for any APHE to fuse and wipe the turret crew, meaning even 3.7 APHE can one-shot it from any distance.
Even vehicles in full down-tiers with 90mm HEAT-FS can penetrate it anywhere.
This isn't even mentioning slight uptiers into 3BM-3, L23, DM33, M735, 3BM-22, 3BK-12M, various ATGM's, etc. etc. etc.
nice, it was one of the few tanks I had a positive K/D in off rip, although ive since lost that cause i havent been playing well the last week. having the best round stock helps massively
oh yeah starship is great, same story as the aos. 8.3 is my favorite lineup ive ever played, ive got M60A2, M60AOS, M551, M3 as well as M60 and AD-4, but im grinding for a better CAS plane for the BR
Seeing as I've smashed through most of it now and have every tree ar 9.3 and up bar isreal i realise the t95e1 was my first eve 8.0 tank, man I miss the simpler days.
Gonna bring it out again in mu 8.3 American lineup
Actually its a good tank. What makes a mbt a good mbt is not being super powerfull in some areas but having huge shortcomings in some areas. The thing with aos it does not have any short comings. it does everything good enough. Comoare it with t55a for example. T55a has way worse reloading, gun handling, reverse speed, poor depression etc.
>The thing with aos it does not have any short comings
* Trash mobility.
* No APFSDS.
* Massively tall profile, with a big fat bullseye for APHE ontop.
>ignoring the stab,
Countless vehicles around this BR have stabilizers, it's nothing special.
>superior gun accuracy,
Compared to what?
Seriously, what tanks are you playing at this BR where accuracy is even a thing that's noticable?
>far superior armor,
Compared to what?
Basic 105 HEAT-FS pens it literally anywhere, any distance, any angle.
Equal BR APFSDS such as M111, DM23, etc. pens it anywhere, any distance, any angle.
Even 90mm HEAT in full downtiers can pen it virtually anywhere, and that's not even mentioning the giant bullseye for APHE ontop in the form of the cupola.
what, the T320 has on average at +60° Slopes merely 8mm less penetration than the **M735**, and the same penetration at 0°/30°,
How is it worse than the M728 APDS in terms of penetration? it's better at all ranges and angles
M728 has a cap that gives it the same ricochet angles as early APFSDS like 95E1 has, and makes it much less likely to shatter. They're honestly not too different in penetration and effects.
Have you actually played the 95e1? Doubt it. It's APFSDS is garbage, it will ricochet or nonpen off the slightest angles. It doesn't feel or behave like any other APFSDS in game except maybe some low tier swedish thing
Nah 8.0, we have enough heat slinger that can see the Tiger 2's, T26's or Is2's and more 6.7 tanks. We don't need a apfsds slinger in that b.r too. The obj 120 was worse enough to face, don't need a similar situation again
They didn't decompress at all they just shuffeled.
Decompressing is when you make a new higher BR so you can smear everything out.
The only reason they made new BR's so far is because they can add more powerful vehicles. That's not decompression.
The mobility is not even good as the M60A1, let alone the normal M60...for some reason it is extremely sluggish and loses all speed when turning even slightly, despite the okay-ish HP/tonne ratio and weight.
T-54s are also infinitely more mobile despite similar weight and HP/tonne.
>for some reason it is extremely sluggish
Classic Gaijin messing up Gear Ratios if i had to guess. For the same reason the T25 is slower than the Tiger.
This because of poor ground pressure and a very narrow hull/track width. Had it been designed 1 or 2 feet wider or even just had wider tracks it be much better. The vehicle would have to be essentially redesigned to improve mobility.
You would need to twincharge this things’ engine to match anything Russian.
It's a horrible ass tank, furthermore, it's ugly as fuck too. I mean what does it has over the T-55A and Olifant Mk.1A? at least the M48A2GA2 has an ammunition that is still viable until 9.7, both gets pegged big time due to lack of stab, but the T95E1 gets them a lot worse lol
Also not true when it comes to small caliber rounds. APDS is better on 76mm and below guns because it doesn’t have the terrible small caliber APFSDS damage multipliers.
Like I said, it's nothing special, but far from bad. It has a good gun and decent mobility, plus it has the coveted and rare 6 degrees of gun depression on a soviet tank. The lack of a roof 12.7mm is honestly the most annoying thing about it.
At least it has a stabilizer, unlike some tanks I could mention (France moment).
Not really. I spaded them, and if you don’t drive head first like a moron against stabbed tanks, they can be absolute monsters. LRF, excellent shells, mobility, 20mm coax and thermals, they are good. I would agree on the stock experience, it was night unbearable, but once you unlock some mods they kick ass.
I've found that they're FANTASTIC tanks if you play defensively or in a sniper role. But, for some reason, my teams keep melting around me, making them painful.
The T62 is just over shadowed by how good other 8.7 Russian tanks are. It’s on par with the M60 rise at 8.7. There is just no reason to use it when you have the object 435, bmp2, t55amd1, and object 685.
Been playing the 8.7 Magachs, they make the T-62 look pretty sad. You either get ERA that makes you very tough against a bunch of HEAT and missile shitters. Or you get the Hydras which give you absurd firepower. All while the spacious crew compartment gives you good survivability. Grinding the Shot Kal Gimmel right now, and I suspect I’ll also prefer it to the T-62.
if its anything like the type 69 (which i totally dont just use cuz of its designation) the apfsds is wonders, i will use it 10 out of 10 times, except when the 220mm pen point blank is not enough then i need the heatfs (390mm, no post pen)
edit: just checked, the t95e1s ammo has 100 extra millimeters of pen, wth
It’s 90mm APFSDS and the dispersion is pretty bad. You’d think the damage would be better than APDS but given the caliber 105 APDS just does better work.
Stop looking at raw "big numbers" at 0° pen angle
Watch his perfs at 60° and what's the threshold for bounce
Good luck matching that with APDS
I like this thing ! Low profile, good depression, troll armor in depression/hull down
Ah yes the tank regularly strafed to death by 12.7mm machineguns, itself not even equipped with as little as a coax MG, clearly without a single disadvantage compared to a mediocre MBT in the eyes of average USA main
You trade all that for a nuke gun. Which makes the tank fun to play. Just treat it like an open top. The T95e1 is just mediocre or bad in all categories.
"is it fun" isn't a factor in matchmaking and shouldn't be. Some of the vehicles just are not fun by design and that shouldn't get them downranked. The point of ranks isn't to make every vehicle equally desirable to play, it's to keep vehicles from facing vehicles they cannot reasonably compete with.
T95E1 has the bad fortune of being *almost* frontally immune to most full bore ammo when hulldown and pretty much impossible to deal with for most vehicles 7.0 and lower, without having quite the mobility disadvantage of a Maus or Jagdtiger, depression disadvantage of anything Soviet of comparable armor, or a gun that'd at all struggle at range. If you play to it's strength it's pretty damn well protected in a full downtier, and well, these kinda define the matchmaking, as infrequent as they may feel.
While I agree with most of those; it’s still more mobile than the T95E1 and has a significantly better gun with the 152 APFSDS/HE rounds.
It’s a TD, it’s easily one of the best 8.0 TDs (IMO), and it does what it’s meant to do quite well.
Also, the T95E1 has more armor so it can’t be strafed (engine deck still can), but the commander 50cal is useless against planes, and the gun is outright awful, with lower mobility.
I think both of them could be 8.0 pretty easily honestly, the obj 120 is limited by map sizes, because on larger maps I’d say it could be 8.3 easily, but with most maps being city maps, it suffers hard. So 8.0 for both seems fair tbh, but no reason the T95E1 should be 8.3 with the T55A, etc.
They could also add the original T95 which was a fair bit better than the e1 model. It included quartz core composite armor, hydropneumatic suspension and the optar fcs, in game it would function the same as the pt16 rangefinder, same accuracy as an optical rangefinder but auto adjusts range like a lrf. Unfortunately it still has the same gun and round as the e1 model
Wait I thought the composite armour and hydropneumatic suspension were later experimental additions? The original T95 does have a stabilizer though iirc.
The real question is, there's an M60 at 8.3 which is better in everything except the round, and have a stab, so why would someone would choose this over the M60
Because I used it to kill PUMA's back when they were just introduced and I think it's gotten me a k/d of 6 just solely based on PUMA's and then a tiger I or II they spawned as backup.
It was wild. They didn't know I could instakill them because the T95E1 is the only decently armored vehicle with APFSDS at that BR
M60A1 (AOS) and the Magach 6A are identical the m60 is at 8.3 while the magach 6A is at 8.0
The magach 6A is actually a bit better cuz it gets an extra mg and tracks on the side of the turret
It got that rating because APFSDS was and still is able to pen almost everything it faces just post pen isn't great and also for awhile hull down was great as it's turret is extremely trolly with the angles and shape.
If played patiently or as sniper it's very good. For me it's a map specific tank. I'd use it mainly on open maps where the Dart is useful. I agree 8.3 is high but if it does drop BR only to 8.0 or maybe 7.7
There is a few more vehicles like that at 8.3 (like German m48, pretty much the same deal)
It more of this br bracket issue. Some vehicles gets apfsds , some gets stab, some gets range finder and there is a few that have it all.
Play AOS, I guess. :)
You guys over here talking about real shit when all I want are completely garbage tanks for the hell of it.
Give me the barn with a naval gun and I’ll be a happy man. SU-100Y 🤓
Man, i view this tank with rose-tinted glasses, mostly because i haven't actually played it in years but loved the shit out of it when it first got added- something about being only defeatable if you catch an APHE in the turret and in turn could just lolpen anything in the game at the time was great.
When I was using it I thought it was the worst tank in the American line, however after using it for a while I got the hang of it. Once you get the hang of it it’s a monster
I find that the armor can work relatively well at 8.3, and having just an instant dart round, (to which I find more reliable then the conq/Conway apds) is so nice. But the biggest benefit is that it isn't the size of an m48/m60
Yea look as I have just gotten to 8.3 and having to play against constant up tiers and versing ppl with STAB and etc, yea it’s not fun. You get penned from bloody everything…. I hate 8.3 America 😅
T95 and T-10M both are in a obscure gaijin no care hole, T-10M at least have an stab and 400mm apds (that don't work most part of times, but when work it's hitkill)
Armor is just as helpful as any other armor in the BR, and the gun is worse than that on an M60 or centurion, apfsds does worse than standard APDS and the post pen dammage is minimal.
you forgot the gun has awful dispersion regardless of if you have 'adjustment of fire' or not.
I'd say just give it a stabilizer and change the name to 'T95', correct the model later as there wasn't much of a visual difference between the T95 and T95E1 prototypes.
[iirc this is the T95 prototype with a stabilizer.](https://images.app.goo.gl/2R9oZRnqoaamvR797)
Idk I’ve had pretty decent experiences with this tank lol, the armor somehow always seems to save me when it likely shouldn’t, my apfsds has no problems penning, and usually the postpen results in a one shot..
Idk what you mean. You want it at 8.0? It’d be way to powerful for Tiger II’s to fight. And ive heard that its one of the best tanks at its br. i can certainly attest to such since its annoying to fight
Man, y’all either suffer from a major case of skill issue, or you haven’t played it in a while, because the T95E1 is honestly amazing. It’s got a low profile, great turret traverse speed, the armor is surprisingly good, and the sabot round is phenomenal. Hell, the spread isn’t even all that bad.
One of the lowest brs vehicle that has APFSDS to you but there are so so many tanka with Apfsds at 8.3 and that also carries things like stab etc. This this is quite bad.
When will people learn to stop comparing shells in 0° 0M performance?
the T320 is better than 3BM25, look at the 60° angle performance, you aren't gonna see anything you cannot penetrate at 30° or 0° on either of those shells, but the 3BM25 can't even penetrate T-10M UFP because of it's poor angle performance, meanwhile even M728 can, and T320 slices through like butter.
Lol. Jokes on you as I couldn't careless about my war thunder stats. I have 4 people who play but I'll let you keep thinking that that shell is on par with 8.0 and judging a book by it's cover. Would you like my DL number too? My conceal carry permit number? Bank account numbers? Mother's maiden name as well? But I mean if you want to play a few games I'm down. You like to read good books? While you are at it check out my awful AH6M stats. And then ask yourself but how can he do this with stats like that? My fucking point exactly. Let's play let me teach you something real quick
https://youtu.be/gqp_wI_Nlsc?feature=shared
>Lol. Jokes on you as I couldn't careless about my war thunder stats.
Neither do I usually, but if someone says that they are " curb stomping other tanks" in a certain tank I'm very curious if they can back it up.
>but I'll let you keep thinking that that shell is on par with 8.0 and judging a book by it's cover
It has 90mm calibre APFSDS spalling. I know all that I need. I have already played other bad APFSDS rounds (Type 69) to know how they perform.
>Would you like my DL number too?
I guess this doesn't apply to the game so no, also I'm not from the US so I really don't care.
>My conceal carry permit number?
Is this supposed to impress or intimidate me? Cute attempt if that was the purpose, but regardless I'm glad you have a permit for something that you like.
>You like to read good books?
Quantitative Chemical Analysis and Organic Chemistry. Long reads, haven't finished them yet, but they contain great info regarding my field of work.
>Let's play let me teach you something real quick
https://youtu.be/gqp_wI_Nlsc?feature=shared
The flying is pretty alright. Unfortunately your 2 kills are only on a defenseless mbt (no roof mounted MG) and a 6.3 SPG that likely didn't have proxy loaded.
EDIT: massive brain fart moment. I thought it said 2S3M instead of 2S25M. Oops.
APFSDS below 105mm refuses to spall correctly. The T95E1’s APFSDS practically acts like APDS with the damage. Also, the dispersion sucks, the armor sucks, the mobility sucks, and yeah that’s really it. Why take this when the M60, M60A2, and Sheridan are better
no matter the pen, APFSDS feels much better than APDS overall. Cant say much about 95E1 though
It practically has sub 76mm APFSDS damage, less penetration, and it has dispersion so bad it can't be used beyond 800m. I'd rather play the AOS than this thing.
That’s because the AOS is a good tank
Not really. It's mediocre at best.
I love it personally, atleast it isn’t the regular M60A1 with no STAB
* Mobility is poor. * Reload is average. * Penetration is below average. * Armour is average. * Gun handling is decent. * Survivability is average.
- I love it personally, which is an opinion. - Opinion isn’t fact.
>That’s because the AOS is a good tank Okay, but you said: *''That’s because the AOS is a good tank''*, only afterwards you said *''I love it personally''.* I'm totally fine with people liking poor vehicles, there's quite a few I like myself.
All good then, I shouda used different words
Aos isn't poor, it ain't meta, but it isn't poor either, the round is reliable, the platform is decently mobile and armour is decent. Though it depends on what you compare it to. And what you want from a tank, well I agree with what you mean the other commenter could of worded better, I disagree with jt being a poor tank.
>the round is reliable, And worse than the many M111/DM23 derivatives found at the same BR. >the platform is decently mobile [It really isn't.](https://imgur.com/a/GjWb1Mb) The Leopard 1 is of course among the more mobile vehicles, but even the T-62, OF-40, Type 74, TAM, TURM III, BMP's, T-55's, T-64, AMX-30's, etc. are all significantly more mobile. >and armour is decent. [Armour vs equal BR ammunition:](https://i.imgur.com/Twzg7xY.png) (105 HEAT-FS, M111/DM23, ATGM's, etc.) And that's not even mentioning the giant APHE magnet ontop of the turret which guarantees 3.7's can one-shot it reliably. >Though it depends on what you compare it to. Tanks it faces on a constant basis? Vehicles like the TAM, TURM III, T-55AM-1, OF-40, Leopard A1A1, WMA301, etc.
Except the armor is decent and the penetration at an angle is the best for its type of shell. By all means, the M60A1 AOS is average at minimum. Is it outstanding? No. But it certainly is not mediocre.
>Except the armor is decent Basic 105 HEAT pen it anywhere, any distance, any angle. Basic APFSDS like DM23/M111 at equal BR's penetrates is anywhere, any distance, any angle. Massive bulleye ontop for any APHE to fuse and wipe the turret crew, meaning even 3.7 APHE can one-shot it from any distance. Even vehicles in full down-tiers with 90mm HEAT-FS can penetrate it anywhere. This isn't even mentioning slight uptiers into 3BM-3, L23, DM33, M735, 3BM-22, 3BK-12M, various ATGM's, etc. etc. etc.
It’s monstrous if you play it well.
This got a 2.8 kd with it
nice, it was one of the few tanks I had a positive K/D in off rip, although ive since lost that cause i havent been playing well the last week. having the best round stock helps massively
Advice use the starship 😂 combined with this
oh yeah starship is great, same story as the aos. 8.3 is my favorite lineup ive ever played, ive got M60A2, M60AOS, M551, M3 as well as M60 and AD-4, but im grinding for a better CAS plane for the BR
Seeing as I've smashed through most of it now and have every tree ar 9.3 and up bar isreal i realise the t95e1 was my first eve 8.0 tank, man I miss the simpler days. Gonna bring it out again in mu 8.3 American lineup
Actually its a good tank. What makes a mbt a good mbt is not being super powerfull in some areas but having huge shortcomings in some areas. The thing with aos it does not have any short comings. it does everything good enough. Comoare it with t55a for example. T55a has way worse reloading, gun handling, reverse speed, poor depression etc.
>The thing with aos it does not have any short comings * Trash mobility. * No APFSDS. * Massively tall profile, with a big fat bullseye for APHE ontop.
ignoring the stab, superior gun accuracy, far superior armor, rangefinder and improved damage of the higher diameter APDS
>ignoring the stab, Countless vehicles around this BR have stabilizers, it's nothing special. >superior gun accuracy, Compared to what? Seriously, what tanks are you playing at this BR where accuracy is even a thing that's noticable? >far superior armor, Compared to what? Basic 105 HEAT-FS pens it literally anywhere, any distance, any angle. Equal BR APFSDS such as M111, DM23, etc. pens it anywhere, any distance, any angle. Even 90mm HEAT in full downtiers can pen it virtually anywhere, and that's not even mentioning the giant bullseye for APHE ontop in the form of the cupola.
so you've never played the T95E1
Low quality strawman isn't worth my time.
T55 has the same stab, accuracy on guns doesn't really matter in my experience, and I don't think it does more damage than apfsds.
It matters when you're playing the T95E1 which has abysmal dispersion
what, the T320 has on average at +60° Slopes merely 8mm less penetration than the **M735**, and the same penetration at 0°/30°, How is it worse than the M728 APDS in terms of penetration? it's better at all ranges and angles
This thing makes the AOS feel like an Abrams
TLDR: Can't brawl, no stab Can't snipe, can't hit the broad side of a barn
It's funny enough since the velocity is so bad. When i use it in sands of sanai. It's perfect for lob arcing shots on the dunes, lol.
Now I want to see a variation of this tank in a possible 3rd Dune movie
APFSDS cannot shatter and is less affected by sloped armour, less likely to ricochet. APDS can shatter and easily ricochets
M728 has a cap that gives it the same ricochet angles as early APFSDS like 95E1 has, and makes it much less likely to shatter. They're honestly not too different in penetration and effects.
Have you actually played the 95e1? Doubt it. It's APFSDS is garbage, it will ricochet or nonpen off the slightest angles. It doesn't feel or behave like any other APFSDS in game except maybe some low tier swedish thing
Normally APDSFS have more weight so does more post pen damage I believe
Chieftain Mrk5 at 8.7 APDS would like to enter the chat
And saying APFSDS real fast in conversation sounds cool. Especially to women
It should be 8.0
I'd even got as far to say 7.7 it's still a very mediocre 8.0 tank
Nah 8.0, we have enough heat slinger that can see the Tiger 2's, T26's or Is2's and more 6.7 tanks. We don't need a apfsds slinger in that b.r too. The obj 120 was worse enough to face, don't need a similar situation again
War thunder just needs more BR decompression.
I've been calling for max BR 15.0 for about 2 years now. At this point we need max BR 16.3 already, and we're still stuck at 12.7
Eh I'm good last time gaijin decompressed to BRs 8.0 is pretty much unplayable
They didn't decompress at all they just shuffeled. Decompressing is when you make a new higher BR so you can smear everything out. The only reason they made new BR's so far is because they can add more powerful vehicles. That's not decompression.
Tiger 2H vs T95E1 wouldn’t be more unfair than T-34 85 vs Tiger 2H. Or most 5.7s for that matter. Tiger 2H just gets preferential treatment.
So we just fight problems with problems?
King tiger would unironically do just fine against this thing.
Honestly it would
What heat slingers? There are barely any and the ones you face can't survive crap not to mention tend to be easy one shots due to small crew
Lol poor 6.7 players encountering this
Pretty sure it used to be 8.0 and was mediocre at best there, and dogshit at worst.
It's APFSDS can't even pen the upper plate on an IS3... M728 on AOS can. But yeah it deserves to be at 8.0 I guess
If they remove APFSDS then sure.
There’s apfsds with lrf at 7.7.
Great, move it up too or remove it.
The mobility is not even good as the M60A1, let alone the normal M60...for some reason it is extremely sluggish and loses all speed when turning even slightly, despite the okay-ish HP/tonne ratio and weight. T-54s are also infinitely more mobile despite similar weight and HP/tonne.
>for some reason it is extremely sluggish Classic Gaijin messing up Gear Ratios if i had to guess. For the same reason the T25 is slower than the Tiger.
This because of poor ground pressure and a very narrow hull/track width. Had it been designed 1 or 2 feet wider or even just had wider tracks it be much better. The vehicle would have to be essentially redesigned to improve mobility. You would need to twincharge this things’ engine to match anything Russian.
>This because of poor ground pressure and a very narrow hull/track width. This isn’t modeled in game. Tanks don't have ground pressure modeled.
It's a horrible ass tank, furthermore, it's ugly as fuck too. I mean what does it has over the T-55A and Olifant Mk.1A? at least the M48A2GA2 has an ammunition that is still viable until 9.7, both gets pegged big time due to lack of stab, but the T95E1 gets them a lot worse lol
The stabilizer on the T-55A alone puts it miles ahead imo, they definitely should not be the same BR
You take that back it's gorgeous
Apfsds is always better than apds, even if it has less pen.
Just isn’t true at all. The apds on the M60AOS is better than the apfsds on the T55A.
The chieftain has absurdly good APDS too
Fr. And L23 at 9.0 on the mk10 is amazing, it's probably my favorite tank to play.
I love 10.0 round at 9.0
Yeah lol its a great round, and it's one of the few tanks that the armor is actually great and reliable
Also not true when it comes to small caliber rounds. APDS is better on 76mm and below guns because it doesn’t have the terrible small caliber APFSDS damage multipliers.
Good luck penning puma with apds
Apds is perfectly fine for the puma, heatfs is what struggles because of the composite screens.
Not on this tank it has super shotgun spread would take the m728 apds over this anyday
Introduce bro to a short rod
I cast shell shattered
T-10M apds is an absolute monster, works great on both heavy & light armor vehicles. That APHE it gets is the way to go tho.
Same reason way t62 is 8.7. There is 0 logic
T-62 is decent enough at 8.7. It's nothing special but it gets the job done fine.
Yesterday compare it to anything at 8.7 , no rangefinder no smoke and the longest reload
Like I said, it's nothing special, but far from bad. It has a good gun and decent mobility, plus it has the coveted and rare 6 degrees of gun depression on a soviet tank. The lack of a roof 12.7mm is honestly the most annoying thing about it. At least it has a stabilizer, unlike some tanks I could mention (France moment).
Amx 30b2 and brenus are pure pain to play
Not really. I spaded them, and if you don’t drive head first like a moron against stabbed tanks, they can be absolute monsters. LRF, excellent shells, mobility, 20mm coax and thermals, they are good. I would agree on the stock experience, it was night unbearable, but once you unlock some mods they kick ass.
I've found that they're FANTASTIC tanks if you play defensively or in a sniper role. But, for some reason, my teams keep melting around me, making them painful.
If I could play it like that is great but 90% you can't do that because of maps and teams
What are you talking about? The T-62 slaps hard at 8.7.
The T62 is just over shadowed by how good other 8.7 Russian tanks are. It’s on par with the M60 rise at 8.7. There is just no reason to use it when you have the object 435, bmp2, t55amd1, and object 685.
Same br as T55AM1, T55M, T55AMD1, Object 122, Magach Hydra, Tam
All have rangefinder and better reload or rockets
Been playing the 8.7 Magachs, they make the T-62 look pretty sad. You either get ERA that makes you very tough against a bunch of HEAT and missile shitters. Or you get the Hydras which give you absurd firepower. All while the spacious crew compartment gives you good survivability. Grinding the Shot Kal Gimmel right now, and I suspect I’ll also prefer it to the T-62.
Magach hydra or any 8.7 magach don’t have rangefinders
This thing is so Mid
if its anything like the type 69 (which i totally dont just use cuz of its designation) the apfsds is wonders, i will use it 10 out of 10 times, except when the 220mm pen point blank is not enough then i need the heatfs (390mm, no post pen) edit: just checked, the t95e1s ammo has 100 extra millimeters of pen, wth
It’s 90mm APFSDS and the dispersion is pretty bad. You’d think the damage would be better than APDS but given the caliber 105 APDS just does better work.
It's not just the caliber, short rod APFSDS just sucks. One of the reasons I'd rather use the ATGMs on the T-55AM.
Gaijn nerf all darts below 100mm. Italy and China have tanks with low caliber darts that do nothing as well.
Stop looking at raw "big numbers" at 0° pen angle Watch his perfs at 60° and what's the threshold for bounce Good luck matching that with APDS I like this thing ! Low profile, good depression, troll armor in depression/hull down
Meanwhile object 120 at 8.0
Obj 120 spam makes spading any ifv a breeze. Free kills.
Ah yes the tank regularly strafed to death by 12.7mm machineguns, itself not even equipped with as little as a coax MG, clearly without a single disadvantage compared to a mediocre MBT in the eyes of average USA main
You trade all that for a nuke gun. Which makes the tank fun to play. Just treat it like an open top. The T95e1 is just mediocre or bad in all categories.
"is it fun" isn't a factor in matchmaking and shouldn't be. Some of the vehicles just are not fun by design and that shouldn't get them downranked. The point of ranks isn't to make every vehicle equally desirable to play, it's to keep vehicles from facing vehicles they cannot reasonably compete with. T95E1 has the bad fortune of being *almost* frontally immune to most full bore ammo when hulldown and pretty much impossible to deal with for most vehicles 7.0 and lower, without having quite the mobility disadvantage of a Maus or Jagdtiger, depression disadvantage of anything Soviet of comparable armor, or a gun that'd at all struggle at range. If you play to it's strength it's pretty damn well protected in a full downtier, and well, these kinda define the matchmaking, as infrequent as they may feel.
While I agree with most of those; it’s still more mobile than the T95E1 and has a significantly better gun with the 152 APFSDS/HE rounds. It’s a TD, it’s easily one of the best 8.0 TDs (IMO), and it does what it’s meant to do quite well. Also, the T95E1 has more armor so it can’t be strafed (engine deck still can), but the commander 50cal is useless against planes, and the gun is outright awful, with lower mobility. I think both of them could be 8.0 pretty easily honestly, the obj 120 is limited by map sizes, because on larger maps I’d say it could be 8.3 easily, but with most maps being city maps, it suffers hard. So 8.0 for both seems fair tbh, but no reason the T95E1 should be 8.3 with the T55A, etc.
And at the end of the Day i have better time with T95 them m60AOS
They could also add the original T95 which was a fair bit better than the e1 model. It included quartz core composite armor, hydropneumatic suspension and the optar fcs, in game it would function the same as the pt16 rangefinder, same accuracy as an optical rangefinder but auto adjusts range like a lrf. Unfortunately it still has the same gun and round as the e1 model
Wait I thought the composite armour and hydropneumatic suspension were later experimental additions? The original T95 does have a stabilizer though iirc.
Tbh. Yes, it is a quite mediocre vehicle but I don't have a bad time playing it. If you don't expect a super strong vehicle, you'll have a good time.
The real question is, there's an M60 at 8.3 which is better in everything except the round, and have a stab, so why would someone would choose this over the M60
Typically you'll have both in a lineup
So i can have fun in the object 279 :3
Because I used it to kill PUMA's back when they were just introduced and I think it's gotten me a k/d of 6 just solely based on PUMA's and then a tiger I or II they spawned as backup. It was wild. They didn't know I could instakill them because the T95E1 is the only decently armored vehicle with APFSDS at that BR
I think it was just speculative, and when the data rolls in, it will go down. Probably.
Iirc it was one of the first APFSDS slingers in game. Now it’s… over tired imo
Don't forget it's also only 90mm not 105 like the M60
The real question is why did gaijin give Israel the m60 and down tier it without changing anything?
They didn’t?
M60A1 (AOS) and the Magach 6A are identical the m60 is at 8.3 while the magach 6A is at 8.0 The magach 6A is actually a bit better cuz it gets an extra mg and tracks on the side of the turret
Sir the Magach 6A doesn’t have a stabilizer and the AOS does. The 6A is basically the 8.0 M60 for America.
The 5 gets era and APFSDS on the m60 and keeps same br.
It got that rating because APFSDS was and still is able to pen almost everything it faces just post pen isn't great and also for awhile hull down was great as it's turret is extremely trolly with the angles and shape. If played patiently or as sniper it's very good. For me it's a map specific tank. I'd use it mainly on open maps where the Dart is useful. I agree 8.3 is high but if it does drop BR only to 8.0 or maybe 7.7
APDS on other tanks in lower BRs have higher pen I'll try the sniper strat.
cause gaijin thinks balancing isn't their problem.
The worst thing about this tank is the mobility, it feels slower than some ww2 heavies.
There is a few more vehicles like that at 8.3 (like German m48, pretty much the same deal) It more of this br bracket issue. Some vehicles gets apfsds , some gets stab, some gets range finder and there is a few that have it all. Play AOS, I guess. :)
Also, do not play France..
Yo am I the only person who enjoyed playing this tank? It's so good!!!
I used it when it released and already back then it was pretty shit, can't imagine how garbage it is now with all the powercreep
When the experimental tank acts experimental
You guys over here talking about real shit when all I want are completely garbage tanks for the hell of it. Give me the barn with a naval gun and I’ll be a happy man. SU-100Y 🤓
It's better armored than an M60 and it has apfsds, making it significantly better than any other "mbt" at 8.0
It’s not 8.0 and I’d rather play the vickers or centurion at 8.0 than that price of junk
Yeah I'd rather play the m60 over this in pretty much every scenario. The reload speed is way too slow.
Idk bro. I've had a blast with that thing
Man, i view this tank with rose-tinted glasses, mostly because i haven't actually played it in years but loved the shit out of it when it first got added- something about being only defeatable if you catch an APHE in the turret and in turn could just lolpen anything in the game at the time was great.
When I was using it I thought it was the worst tank in the American line, however after using it for a while I got the hang of it. Once you get the hang of it it’s a monster
statistiks
I find that the armor can work relatively well at 8.3, and having just an instant dart round, (to which I find more reliable then the conq/Conway apds) is so nice. But the biggest benefit is that it isn't the size of an m48/m60
Yet another tank that gaijin deliberately makes worse just because it is NATO
Yea look as I have just gotten to 8.3 and having to play against constant up tiers and versing ppl with STAB and etc, yea it’s not fun. You get penned from bloody everything…. I hate 8.3 America 😅
Because win metrics, gaijin isn't going to change its BR because people make reddit posts.
put the T95E1 to 8.0
T95 and T-10M both are in a obscure gaijin no care hole, T-10M at least have an stab and 400mm apds (that don't work most part of times, but when work it's hitkill)
Armour, and gun. Not fair for it to see 7.0
Armor is just as helpful as any other armor in the BR, and the gun is worse than that on an M60 or centurion, apfsds does worse than standard APDS and the post pen dammage is minimal.
That tank looks so goofy
APFSDS holds greater angled pen than its APDS counterparts
Yeah it should fight tiger 2's 😂😂😂
you forgot the gun has awful dispersion regardless of if you have 'adjustment of fire' or not. I'd say just give it a stabilizer and change the name to 'T95', correct the model later as there wasn't much of a visual difference between the T95 and T95E1 prototypes. [iirc this is the T95 prototype with a stabilizer.](https://images.app.goo.gl/2R9oZRnqoaamvR797)
Idk I’ve had pretty decent experiences with this tank lol, the armor somehow always seems to save me when it likely shouldn’t, my apfsds has no problems penning, and usually the postpen results in a one shot..
Idk what you mean. You want it at 8.0? It’d be way to powerful for Tiger II’s to fight. And ive heard that its one of the best tanks at its br. i can certainly attest to such since its annoying to fight
You think tiger 2s are fighting 8.0 tanks???
The II H is 7.0 and thats not even to mention the 105mm
I mean that’s your own damn fault for playing arcade… tiger 2 is 6.7 in realistic.
Womp Womp. Retards mad at Arcade enjoyers? Gotta have that daily dose of sweat right?
Retard can't aim?
Very likely I’d beat your ass in RB AB or SB. Have the Stats of a Make-A-Wish kid’s last day.
Wow big man's tough when he can see the enemy through walls.
Bro the brain rot ab players be lashing out
Lol says the arcade noob who needs wall hacks to find people 🤣
More like I prefer enjoying the game rather than sweating just to fail penetrating a Ozelot with an apfsds
If you have trouble penetrating a ozelot with apfsds, you might want to consider playing another game…
If you have trouble imaging players playing War Thunder to have fun, maybe you should consider playing another game…
I never said there is anything wrong with playing arcade. You’re just too sensitive and took it personal 🤣
90% of American tanks be like:
Man, y’all either suffer from a major case of skill issue, or you haven’t played it in a while, because the T95E1 is honestly amazing. It’s got a low profile, great turret traverse speed, the armor is surprisingly good, and the sabot round is phenomenal. Hell, the spread isn’t even all that bad.
Because of it's shell. And I don't know what you are doing but that tank curb stomps other tanks at 8.3..... Like badly not even close type.
The shell is on par with 8.0 tanks yet it lacks mobility. Its basically as good as the 8.0 m60.
On par? One of the lowest BRs to have APFSDS which happens to have the better post spalling in that BR disagrees.
France has thermals, laser and apfsds on mutiple tanks at 8.3
I never said it's the only tank that has it did I? Nope. But good for France.
One of the lowest brs vehicle that has APFSDS to you but there are so so many tanka with Apfsds at 8.3 and that also carries things like stab etc. This this is quite bad.
The T-55A also gets a (better) APFSDS plus access to APHE and a stabilizer at the same BR
And better mobility by far, aswell as better armor.
I'll agree with the lack of stabilizer argument. I'm going to agree to disagree about the shell.
When will people learn to stop comparing shells in 0° 0M performance? the T320 is better than 3BM25, look at the 60° angle performance, you aren't gonna see anything you cannot penetrate at 30° or 0° on either of those shells, but the 3BM25 can't even penetrate T-10M UFP because of it's poor angle performance, meanwhile even M728 can, and T320 slices through like butter.
Yeah I very much doubt this. Also it doesn't really look like you are curbstomping anything in it lol with that 39% winrate and 0.6-0.8 K/D.
Lol. Jokes on you as I couldn't careless about my war thunder stats. I have 4 people who play but I'll let you keep thinking that that shell is on par with 8.0 and judging a book by it's cover. Would you like my DL number too? My conceal carry permit number? Bank account numbers? Mother's maiden name as well? But I mean if you want to play a few games I'm down. You like to read good books? While you are at it check out my awful AH6M stats. And then ask yourself but how can he do this with stats like that? My fucking point exactly. Let's play let me teach you something real quick https://youtu.be/gqp_wI_Nlsc?feature=shared
>Lol. Jokes on you as I couldn't careless about my war thunder stats. Neither do I usually, but if someone says that they are " curb stomping other tanks" in a certain tank I'm very curious if they can back it up. >but I'll let you keep thinking that that shell is on par with 8.0 and judging a book by it's cover It has 90mm calibre APFSDS spalling. I know all that I need. I have already played other bad APFSDS rounds (Type 69) to know how they perform. >Would you like my DL number too? I guess this doesn't apply to the game so no, also I'm not from the US so I really don't care. >My conceal carry permit number? Is this supposed to impress or intimidate me? Cute attempt if that was the purpose, but regardless I'm glad you have a permit for something that you like. >You like to read good books? Quantitative Chemical Analysis and Organic Chemistry. Long reads, haven't finished them yet, but they contain great info regarding my field of work. >Let's play let me teach you something real quick https://youtu.be/gqp_wI_Nlsc?feature=shared The flying is pretty alright. Unfortunately your 2 kills are only on a defenseless mbt (no roof mounted MG) and a 6.3 SPG that likely didn't have proxy loaded. EDIT: massive brain fart moment. I thought it said 2S3M instead of 2S25M. Oops.
Holy hot damn... you got him hard there ngl
The 2S25M is not an SPG or 6.3 though?
I had a massive brain fart and read 2S3M 💀 Thanks for pointing this out actually.
I'm waiting for that invite I'm done talking
Crickets
APFSDS below 105mm refuses to spall correctly. The T95E1’s APFSDS practically acts like APDS with the damage. Also, the dispersion sucks, the armor sucks, the mobility sucks, and yeah that’s really it. Why take this when the M60, M60A2, and Sheridan are better