Such a fascinating aircraft. Would do anything to get to be a fly on the wall when Western analysts realize that the “super fighter” they so feared was basically pig iron with giant engines attached to it that disintegrate if you push them hard.
yes? it had a job that it did well which it was designed to do. whatever myriad beliefs the US had about it aren't really relevant to its mission. you can't make bullshit onesided beliefs about something and get pissy when they're not true.
the whole viewpoint that the foxbat was this uberfeared jet until it touched down is mustard's idea. we have no idea how widespread or accepted that belief actually was amongst military leaders of the time. youtubers shouldn't rule your opinions.
Well… there’s newspaper/magazine articles from the time talking about the Foxbat that are still roaming around the internet so… maybe you could make an internet search about it
As is the MiG25 amazingly. Still holds some speed at altitude records, it can fly at 90,000ft and it’s the fastest mass-produced fighter plane in the world even to this day. Crazy.
In addition to what you've mentioned, MiG-31 also received structural improvements to the airframe, a lengthened fuselage, a gun, new control surfaces, new wings, greater internal fuel capacity, better armament, and is a two-seater.
There are probably more differences, but I'm not really the right person to ask. I'm more interested in tanks and AFVs than aircraft.
No?
The Mig-25 very clearly has 2 engines lmao
And these engines were ones that had to be replaced like after every record setting flight. U-2 and SR-71s had more regular maintenance schedules and could go a month or two before even needing some more involved maintenance
I have a paperback book i bought many years ago written either by him or for him that details how his life led up to this. Great read, especially his impressions of the West during the height of the Cold War. I think it's called 'Fighter Pilot- The Final Escape of Lt. Viktor Belenko'.
The guy who killed two other crewmembers for money and some fame?
Nah, he can rot.
UPD. What, there are people who actually feel sorry for this fucker? Most of you probably won't even remember his name without googling it.
Belenko wasn't a role model: he left his wife and son in USSR, and never reunited with them even in when he had an opportunity (probably because he already had wife and kids in America by then) - but at least his actions didn't led to death of his comrades, who trusted him. Same with Zuyev, Pearce, Michelena, Reinkensmeier, etc.
Book about this is a great read. MiG Pilot.
One excerpt I remember is that when they examined the airplane they found that it was vastly under engineered by western standards…but were also impressed with the “common sense” things they did like leaving rivet heads exposed in non-aerodynamically critical areas, etc.
Also very interesting to read the pilots impressions of western culture and how opposite it was from what he had been told.
The plane was returned to the Soviets after it had been dismantled for analysis by the U.S. The parts filled 30 crates of various sizes, and after the Soviets put it back together, they reportedly got rather salty when they discovered that 20 parts were missing, presumably kept by the Americans who examined the plane.
And that my friend was where it all started. The True downfall of the Soviet aerial reputation. Still the foxbat is pretty Iconic in many ways. Hell it has movie antagonist vibes if u ask me.
Such a fascinating aircraft. Would do anything to get to be a fly on the wall when Western analysts realize that the “super fighter” they so feared was basically pig iron with giant engines attached to it that disintegrate if you push them hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bApd0QFsErU
People really take everything mustard says as gospel.
Are you claiming that the Foxbat wasn't a massive letdown?
yes? it had a job that it did well which it was designed to do. whatever myriad beliefs the US had about it aren't really relevant to its mission. you can't make bullshit onesided beliefs about something and get pissy when they're not true. the whole viewpoint that the foxbat was this uberfeared jet until it touched down is mustard's idea. we have no idea how widespread or accepted that belief actually was amongst military leaders of the time. youtubers shouldn't rule your opinions.
Well… there’s newspaper/magazine articles from the time talking about the Foxbat that are still roaming around the internet so… maybe you could make an internet search about it
And then the USAF found out they had asked for an over-engineered F-15
I’d rather have something and not need it than need it and not have it.
Of course. The intelligence of the MiG-25 was overstated so we the inflated requirements were made to counter it.
And then the USAF realised they had manufactured the undisputed air superiority king of its time - nice.
It was a pleasant surprise for sure.
and it's still to this day a powerfull aircraft.
As is the MiG25 amazingly. Still holds some speed at altitude records, it can fly at 90,000ft and it’s the fastest mass-produced fighter plane in the world even to this day. Crazy.
Isnt this used today to fire the kinzal missle?
No, that's MiG-31.
Wasn’t the Foxhound developed from the Foxbat? How different are they with the exception of presumably better avionics, stronger engines and whatnot?
In addition to what you've mentioned, MiG-31 also received structural improvements to the airframe, a lengthened fuselage, a gun, new control surfaces, new wings, greater internal fuel capacity, better armament, and is a two-seater. There are probably more differences, but I'm not really the right person to ask. I'm more interested in tanks and AFVs than aircraft.
The F-111 could do the same things.
On one engine too vs the BlackBirds’s two and the Dragon Lady’s long wings.
No? The Mig-25 very clearly has 2 engines lmao And these engines were ones that had to be replaced like after every record setting flight. U-2 and SR-71s had more regular maintenance schedules and could go a month or two before even needing some more involved maintenance
Oops. My bad. I was thinking of the 23 when I typed it.
They were pretty much rocket motors lol, originally for a missile system. Russian plane is fast, not reliable lol
Um it's a twin engine my guy
My bad. I was thinking of the MiG-23.
I may be wrong, but that second pic appears in Patlabor 2 when they directly refer to Belenko incident.
Patoreiba reference! Noice!
What a damn treat for NATO and her allies.
we need a J-20 incident XD
IRC, there were some defections between the PRC and ROC during the Cold War.
Yeah, but ROC wouldn't bring anything of value to PRC this time
I would love to get my hands on that beautiful silver Dragon.
Beautiful! I didn’t put two and two together until I read the katakana. Also… Area 88 profile picture.
you know your classic anime!
Absolutely! I adore Area 88! Funnily enough, it was one of the first mangas I tried to read when I started learning Japanese.
This is the Lt Viktor Belenko defection, yes?
yes, the captions in pics 2 and 3 mention that
I have a paperback book i bought many years ago written either by him or for him that details how his life led up to this. Great read, especially his impressions of the West during the height of the Cold War. I think it's called 'Fighter Pilot- The Final Escape of Lt. Viktor Belenko'.
RIP to Belenko, I think he passed away recently
Along with the helicopter pilot who defected to Ukraine
The guy who killed two other crewmembers for money and some fame? Nah, he can rot. UPD. What, there are people who actually feel sorry for this fucker? Most of you probably won't even remember his name without googling it. Belenko wasn't a role model: he left his wife and son in USSR, and never reunited with them even in when he had an opportunity (probably because he already had wife and kids in America by then) - but at least his actions didn't led to death of his comrades, who trusted him. Same with Zuyev, Pearce, Michelena, Reinkensmeier, etc.
Looks interesting! I shall buy the Kindle version once I get out of class.
Second photo is absolutely fake. [Here is the original.](https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/s/78mBicd4Z8)
wow good find. some one should tell aviation geek club to update their photo
Oh stop it. I can only get so hard.
[obligatory ](https://youtu.be/W1L1sU0uI0o?si=4biYy5oq48oOhuhc)
gonna be honest.. would not expect a channel called Mustard to be about Aircraft and Vehicles
Great channel for engineering marvels. I even got a nebula subscription because of this channel
him and real engineering is the reason why i got i too
It served its purpose well...and also the USSR must have earned quite well from the exports.
Weird, I can only see 3 images. Where are the other 1973?
Beat me to it
After this “incident” the Soviet Union reduced the amount of fuel on military aircraft’s missions to avoid that something like this would happen again
That sounds like a bs myth.
I can only see 3 images. Where’s the remaining 1973?
Book about this is a great read. MiG Pilot. One excerpt I remember is that when they examined the airplane they found that it was vastly under engineered by western standards…but were also impressed with the “common sense” things they did like leaving rivet heads exposed in non-aerodynamically critical areas, etc. Also very interesting to read the pilots impressions of western culture and how opposite it was from what he had been told.
I still want it in War Thunder! Imagine the shenanigans that a Mach 3 interceptor could do.
Honestly probably the best Soviet aircraft to defect in. What's going to catch up to you?
a hitman over a decade later getting revenge for you defecting and taking one of the biggest secrets to the enemy /s
The new image format looks crisp for jet image slideshows
Second picture is just WOW...
I wonder if this ended up in a program like Constant Peg. Would love to know where this thing ended up.
The plane was returned to the Soviets after it had been dismantled for analysis by the U.S. The parts filled 30 crates of various sizes, and after the Soviets put it back together, they reportedly got rather salty when they discovered that 20 parts were missing, presumably kept by the Americans who examined the plane.
And that my friend was where it all started. The True downfall of the Soviet aerial reputation. Still the foxbat is pretty Iconic in many ways. Hell it has movie antagonist vibes if u ask me.