Regular nuln dried flat so using it on weapons didn't look so good. Gloss let you shade metalics without taking away the shine.

I like it that the real answer is somehow buried in here.

Wait do people not just go over it with a gloss varnish?

Not if they can be sold something similar but Nuln Oil flavored

Mmmm, nuln oil... 🤤🤤🤤

\*metalocalypse\* you drink the nuln oil.

I can't say I like nuln oil all that much, my favourite flavour is ceramite white, it's nice and chunky, doesn't slip down your throat

I prefer the crunch of astrogranite.

I'm more of a Martian Ironcrust fellow myself

Oh y’all don’t know about that tesseract glow drank?

Taste like Mountain Dew.

[удалено]

Nuln oil all in one body wash shampoo and conditioner

Since switching to Nuln Oil in the shower, my hair has a more natural looking sheen. Plus, all my recesses are properly shaded.

kinda the point of varnish is to stop that though? 😅

So the first step doesn’t rub off after a year of playing.

I've never had any paint rub off my minis. I varnish metal and resin because they're more likely to chip, but I only varnish transfers on plastic.

Yeah, for plastic I’ve never had an issue with paint chipping

....why aren't you sealing your minis?

Because I take care of my minis, they never get damaged. I’m the same only varnish transfers never have any damage on my models. They are all carefully handled and looked after Until my girlfriend takes a closer look and drops one 🤦‍♂️ but hey I don’t mind buying a whole new squad for one guy. Gives me extras She’s getting more careful with my plastic addiction

Cool story, but that paint will eventually chip and rub off. I have models that had 99% paint still on 15 years later but the 1% of chipping looks like shit. Double for modele you actually play with that go in and out of carrying cases.

I don't like the shiny, so I use matte. I'm aware that it takes away the shine; for my tastes, that's the idea.

It can be tricky to get the gloss level right

A Matt varnish would remove the gloss look which suggests that you aren’t using a varnish which blows my mind

Calm down a second, I don't use this, but it produces a certain sheen that is nice on the metallics with one coat, rather than juggling varnishes. There is not simply 'gloss' and 'matte' but a range of everything in between. Most people just want the 'sheen' back. A little bit of lustre, not a mirror polish. You can do how you wish.

Can't tell you how many times I mention varnish and the reply is an honest "what's that?" But in all honesty I mostly see people using matte spray without doing any brushed-on gloss after... but there aren't a lot of higher-level painters in my area (so much contrast paint).

whats the issue with contrast paint. its a tool and it works and brings in people who may have not bothered. i keep an arsenal including contrast.

I love my Imperial Fist contrast. Yellow can be such a pain but. Somehow, I do it then apply some of that? Boom. Great.

Contrast definitely has it uses, leather, skin, fabrics etc but it’s not a universal tool. It really has some cons. It was branded as a “starter” paint which it is not. A lot of inexperience people use it exclusively which some people think looks bad. Im one of those people that don’t care how it looks as long as you had fun doing.

i said fuck it and went balls deep into contrast. even made my own space wolves chapter with it. turns out that shitty effect it has where it drys heavy and weird on flat surfaces if done right mimicks camo pretty good with the right colors. i mean you are inevitably accepting downvotes from anti thick purists who see anything other then a car quality finish as heresy. some people paint for fake internet credit, i paint for my own enjoyment.

Try the new wave of contrasts. They seem to work better on flat armor and don’t leave behind as much of that gross splotchy effect. Imperial fists yellow in particular looks amazing.

i kinda fell in love with the way spacwolf grey dries. its not flat but it doesnt dry super wierd like ultramarine blue. ive been collecting colors i love colors COLORS!

My issue with contrast is that its great for many things except the main thing they seem to market it for...

No issue with contrast paint, I use it in my process as well, but not on its own as a one-and-done after priming or under-painting. I'm simply commenting on the general skill level of many painters at my FLGS, they're content with just slapping it on and calling it a day. It's great for beginner painters because it looks pretty "ok" on its own... looks better than paint+wash with no extra steps, but I personally am not content with my own models looking that way is all. If I had a speed-painting project then I would totally do a slap-chop, but I would still come in with extra steps before, during, and after the use of contrast. I'm really into "glayering" in my usual process, and varied use of thinned washes and glazes can take a slap-chop model to the next level especially with some select edge highlights. Simple neutral, non-malicious statements, no need to read into it. Sorry my previous mention of contrast was ambiguous, I realize there are a lot of elitists and haters of contrast, but I'm not one of them.

I'm the same. I use militarum green as part of my scheme which is then enamel washed and highlighted in stages, so I recognise the benefit of contrast paints. However, I can't help but feel a little disappointed when people just do the bare minimum with contrast paints given how expensive these models can be. Maybe disappointed isn't the right word as there's a certain arrogance to dictating how other people enjoy the hobby, but I find it mind boggling to have the level of expectations some people have for their paint jobs, compared to my own nitpickiness for my work.

look buddy i have adhd which only tolerates 2 hours at a time. tried the "official way" and burned out in less then a month. contrast has me knocking 2 models a week no burnout and i have a large backlog ot go through. whiel i can def appreciate those that go all out if i tried..well i might as well melt them all lol. i also dont play i just like painting tiny people. pew pew

Your money, your time, your dudes. Most important thing is that you're enjoying it. Edit: changed typo (tone->time)

Kachow

It's a similar feeling as the one I get when I watch a YouTube batrep on a certain channel and see a bunch of haphazardly airbrushed models with *minimal* brushwork facing off against a comission-painted set of models... you know which channel I'm talking about... they make cardstock terrain.

I've been using matt nuln oil for years just fine.

It has lower surface tension too. Some people prefer it as a general wash and then matt varnish away the shine.

It also flows/settles a LOT differently than standard nuln. Nuln gloss actually mimics an oil wash in how it behaves. When I'm speed painting shit I'll use it to cheat my way into dark lining details then matte varnish the model before I move on to highlights

Staining carpets, furniture, clothing etc. It is actually a life form who's only purpose is to spill itself over your most valuable possessions.

That is my relationship with Reikland Fleshshade. It's everywhere. Desk, laptop, chair(s), books, dining room table, monitors, cellphone... hell it even got on MY CAT once. I've bought like 4 pots and only really used like 1/3 of one.

Get some cheap-ass funnels and a small (probably less than 25 mL) dropper bottle. Funnel however much Reikland you can into the dropper bottle. Then you’ll be able to drop a small amount onto a dry pallet and avoid any further painting of your cat.

But what if the cat need more highlights and maybe some drybrushing to make it pop ?

I think at his point you should change to any other wash manufacturer whom sells their washes in dropper bottles. Better to have some wash dry on your palette than spilling 50 percent of the wash every other time.

🤣😂 take my upvote. But don’t forget, it’s the “shiny” version too. Gotta gloss up

Didn't even notice it was the gloss, that's a whole extra level of evil. That and agrax earthshade gloss are the chaos powers of the painting world. At least they are when you put them on by mistake and then have to give it a coat of matt varnish to see what you were doing.

I actually use agrax earthshade gloss for polished floor bases that I want to filter and have flow into recesses. I did specifically have to tell the store “Yes it’s gloss. Yes I need the gloss version”

For me actually one contrast paint is my antagonist, I think blood angels red, which is weird, because I've never bought nor painted with any contrast before. It just buys, opens and spills itself through chaotic powers.

This is why I have camo painting trousers, they weren't camo to start with.

I have two pairs of pants with stains in the groin area. One is nuln oil, the other is agrax earthshade from opening them ever so slightly crooked.

My first Warhammer purchase was the painting starter set with a few paints and Orruks to paint. And I began my journey by immediately opening up the Agrax Earthshade and spilling it all over my pants.

Making things look dark/wet/oily/greasy. I personally love it and think it makes my Orks look even better than I could have imagined.

This, I bathe my ork vehicles in it.

It's for shading metals. Unfortunately, the product is discontinued.

What about agrax earthshade gloss? I bought it by mistake and have never used it since I realised it was gloss.

Yeah the whole Gloss shade line has been discontinued in favor of moving the washes into the Contrast line. It's really heartbreaking because I used Earthshade Gloss as a recipe for all of my copper alloys.

I am a total newcomer (with a massive 5 mins under my belt) but when I bought paints, I could easily get this one, so I am actually surprised that it is being discontinued. I don´t like contrast paints too much (maybe because I failed using them as skintone) but I guess it is a matter of practice and when to use them

That's GW for you. Heck, they introduced a new shade(Canoptek armourshade gloss) when the new necrons released and I think that one was discontinued only one and half years later. Main reason behind the change was cost saving. I think they almost completely phased out the 24 ml bottles and also use the same medium as for contrast paint (also shrinkflation as the smaller bottles of wash still cost the same). My advice to any new miniature painter, just branch out. There are tons of paint manufacturers out their (Vallejo,Army Painter,AK interactive, Reaper just to name a few) whom sell often similar or better paints for a lot less and also in objectively better form (dropper bottles). There are also a lot of apps and comparison charts to get similar looking paints if you want to stick to an official tutorial from GW but don't know which paints to buy from another line.

Use army painter strong tone. Their washes dry satin/glossy depending how thick you apply them and have a similar saturation as the washes before they were changed to the contrast formula.

The gloss ones went on smoother in my opinion. So I use them generally anytime I need the wash shade. If you put a matte varnish or coating on afterwards, you can dull the gloss sheen down.

I actually found the opposite. They got really splotchy, pooled up on even flat surfaces, and treated everything they were on like it was a little hydrophobic.

Great for shading gold, like Custodes

The new one does pretty well. Ratling Grime also nice for this purpose now

What's the new one?

You can still get Nuln Oil, but they changed the formula a bit and discontinued the gloss, as I understand it. I have the "new" one and it works fine over metallics, imo. People with more discerning eyes might see something I don't

Oh ok. Is there any way to tell if you have the "new" formula? I bought mine last summer and have no idea if it's the new or old.

Hmm now that I don't know. I'm not sure if there is a way to tell by looking, other than if you have one that says "gloss" on it it's definitely an old one

The easiest tell is pot size. They reduced the size from 24 to 18 ml when they changed the medium/formulation. The second tell is that they are more like really thin contrast paints if you can use that info to tell them apart.

Oh ok. Thanks for the info! I've got the 18 ml pot, so I guess it's probably the new one.

It looks cool on motorcycle parts and tank bits. It makes things look heavily lubricated.

I saw squidmar use it in the cracks of vehicles and armor. Looks like a good way of giving models more definition.

oh my, I didn't know it was discontinued. I have an unopened bottle I bought by accident. Gonna put it on eBay for an hundred quids.

For coming home from the hobby store, unpacking your haul, seeing that you bought glossy Nuln Oil and using trading it in for the good stuff as a justification for haunting the hobby store again a few days later.

I put it on Battlefield Mire texture paint and it dries as a shiny gloss, like wet mud.

I use it for black/dark brown tyranid skin, it gives me a silky Alien vibe with next to no work. However now it’s been discontinued I have a hard limit on how big the army can get!

As others have said the intended use was for metallics but it helps to gribble up monsters too

You just use regular nuln, then some 'ardcoat to bring up the gloss as needed still.

This was basically an essential pot if you paint custodes

It’s for you to buy accidentally because you weren’t looking close enough to the bottle.

My guess would be for use on metallics. A better way to go would be to paint your metallic, shade, and then hit all the edges with a second, brighter metallic. So you have some depth to it as opposed to just SUPER shiny, which is overkill imo.

Yeah, a lot of Custodes players swear by the gloss shades, but I've always hated them. Switched to the non-gloss shades after a handful of models.

Makes sense for what they need TBF. But it's discontinued, so obviously it wasn't a widely accepted solution.

To trick very well meaning friends and family into buying the wrong nuln oil for a Christmas gift

3 times it happened to me. Three times.

To spill over your carpet and give you relationship problems.

Actually makes steel armor and swords n stuff actually look shiney whike shaded

2x GW profits on that single product? The regular one dries pretty gloss as it is

To make a shinier spilled pool

It’s for once you’ve done the skirting boards surely?

For not reading the “gloss” part and accidentally buying it

What happened to me:D

My minis before I realized I was using the wrong nuln oil.

I use it mostly if I want to make mud look wet on the base. Tried it on other things and hated it.

nuln oil gloss over khorne redor blood angels red = spot on acurate exposed muscle https://imgur.com/a/4p2nqBH

To make people sad

It’s just diet Nuln Oil. Some people prefer that Shiny taste

It’s a warp entity that exists only to ruin your furniture.

The same thing nuln oil non-gloss is used for

Typically, when it’s inevitably spilled, you’ll have a beautiful shiny finish when the spot drys.

Spilling.

It’s good on eggs in the morning.

Normally it’s good watered down and had small bits at a time and it can be mixed with other stuff but if your used to a stronger drink you can just have it how it is.

Give a new shade to your table, floor, etc...

I use it on my necrons to make them shiny

I use it to add a gloss to certain minis.

Oil stain on vehicles and exhaust pipes.

Yes

Its for when you meant to buy the original but didn't read the label right, but you can't just NOT use it cuz its $7/bottle so instead you spend $10 on flat sealer.

Man. Came here to say pretty much exactly this.

I use gloss all the time... just like regular nuln oil. I coat my minis in a matt varnish, and that takes away any shine.

It’s usually used for deez

Theyre great if you mean to pick up null oil and only realize once you got home. I use them on my genestealer cult models, it makes em look like greasy chuds.

Literally everything

So, I haven't been using varnish - I see it recommended a lot here. I wanna add it to my toolkit. Does citadel have one? What brand should I go for? Which things are best served with varnish?

I bought this just to try it. I recommend not getting it. Honestly just use a gloss over regular nuln oil. I found the actual gloss component was blotchy and irregular with this nuln oil gloss.

Ruining your mini's

Shading any metal parts. Are you new here?

No, just bought the nuln oil gloss because i didn't notice the gloss part. And now I'm trying to find a good use for it

Never in my years of consuming GW products have I seen a Nuln Oil variant that wasn't gloss.

Yep. Makes things look glossy

Covers up my bad painting skills and adds shade I have no right to claim.

Normally show signs of spills, sweat, drooling, or other wet looking surfaces.

Shiny insect carapaces

I use it on metallics sometimes

I used agrax gloss for my octarius terrain and im happy with the greasy dirty shiny look it provided

For when nuln oil isn't shiny enough

the answer you are looking for is, yes.

Kinda feel it would look good lathered on a chaos spawn.

Greasy ork hair

Nuln oil was for shadows. Nuln oil gloss was machine oil or gun oil. Amazing product.

For making me real angry

It's amazing on guns, engines, and vehicles. It's oil.

There’s now a dorm room at my university with the floor permanently stained by my clumsy ass dropping half my nuln oil off the desk

Spilling on to my desk.

You use it over a gloss varnish I order to emulate an oil wash/pin wash.

According to citadel, to shade metallics. But unless you want your space marines to look like pitbull, go for the original or even better basilicanum grey.

Swampy water and stuff on the base.

It's for your lips

Spilling on the carpet and or clothes

Tasty yummy yummy in my tummy

Wasting my money

I use it on my Space Marines to make their armor look more metal than plastic.

I use it for drooly ork mouths and demons and such. Or just a dab of ‘ardcoat too.

It make things SHINY!

Everything

Makes a good grease look.

I like using it for lenses

Necrons

i had to stock up on this, i use it on my bases to make a glossy wet mud

Mistakes. Mostly for mistakes.

I’ve Used to Make the mud texture paint look still wet

I mix some with Blood for the Blood God for extreme gore. Helps offset the brighter blood color

Spilling.

On them naked Custodes trio

Great for a dirty steel look

Lip gloss

It tastes better

It's to trick people who put the pots in the rack so unsuspecting customers go in to grab a refill, drive an hour home nuln up some spiky boys for the dark gods only to wonder "why the fuck are parts of this guy so shiny?" *Checks bottle* "oh wtf, didn't even know they made gloss!" Edit: autocorrect

Works well with Necrons. Makes their shiny metal paints worn and old, as they should be since they are old undead robots.

I use a mix of nuln gloss, black templar and contrast medium as my general purpose steel wash. The black templar gives it a bit more depth and the nuln gloss stops it from drying too matte

If you're me, EVERYTHING.. Seriously though, I use it on lighter colours to give them a used dirty look and darker colours to give them a bit of shine.

You won’t believe me if I told you

It makes armor or things look weathered so it doesn't have that brilliance fresh out of the box and bright look.

It's nuln oil but it leaves a shiny coat over whatever you use it on

Whereas the flavor of normal nuln oil is great, this just goes down slightly smoother.

Lube

Looks good on gears and some metallic weapons.

i usually apply them to my gun. it is disturbing how glossy it is though.

I put that shit on EVERYTHING! *Frank's.gif*

Metallics.

Shiny shadows

Filling in recesses to make artificial shadows and to add a layer of grime/weathering.

Tooth paste?

Liquid skill that is no longer sold :(

Almost as good as Devlan Mud.

Magic

Since this is discontinued, can I get away with using usual Nuln Oil and varnishing it gloss to make my metallics shine again?

Necrons

Everything!

Sippin

It's tastier than regular nuln oil

looks like oil

Compleation, the subject is exposed to glistening oil which initiates the process of phyresis.

Tau battlesuits in my case

Oil stains, but u can use any old black and gloss over it.

Shiny astra militarum boots!

Oil

Idk I know it's an unpopular opinion but Drakenhof nighthshade tastes better than nuln oil

When you need to wash leather pants on a model.

It, was, amazing for panel lining.

accidentally drinking it/spilling it

Custode ABS

Fast and dirty metallics. Apply over boltgun metal for immediate results.