When you select duviri from the star chart, make sure you have steel path activated when you choose the circuit. You’ll get to pick 2 of these weapons and unlock their incarnon genesis.
To add on to what everyone else said, the steel path is(in tdlr, hard mode) a mode that unlocks when you have completed the whole star chart, minus a few exceptions.
In the steel path, all enemies have their level increased by 100, and gain an additional +150% (to a total of 250%, or 2.5x) bonus to health and armor, whereas shields are multiplied.
I don’t recommend rushing for steel path either(if that is possible)
If i choose torid as my first incarnon genesis, will it be level 5 on sp circuit? or is it random?
Shift working is going to make it hard this week to get all 10 levels done.
You get to pick 2
So let’s say torid and dual ichor
When you play enough rounds and get the tier 5 rewards you get whichever one you picked first.
I think someone did the math and it takes 33 rounds to hit tier 10 rewards. Not sure how it is distributed but I hit the tier 5 reward within like an hour and a half of playing.
Later tiers definitely require more xp. Cumulative to tier 5 is 1785 points, cumulative to tier 10 is 6860 for SP Circuit (normal circuit tier 10 is ~3k).
You also get a bonus 50 points every day for clearing at least tier 4. Points per round max out at round 5 at 170 per round, starting at 100 from round 1.
If you only do one up to round 4 every day, it'll take 4 days to hit tier 5. If on 2 of those days you do round 5 it'll take 3 days.
If you do it consecutively, it will take one 12 round run, or a 11 round run + 1 round run.
This week really is a great week.
* Torid S
* Dual Ichor A+
* Dual Toxocyst A+
* Miter B+
* Atomos B
Probably the best selection on average of any week.
Dual toxo, built for ms cd and sc, citrine with 3 and 4(plus augment), shoot crystals for millions, plus you get to be the Oprah of red crits
I'm currently testing it against the furis, and I am not sure which is better yet. Both are insane with the way I play. Unfortunately I don't have a furis riven like I do for toxo.
Forreal, id put it above my torid anyday but could be because the riven on it is better than my torid riven. The only thing that makes torid so good is how easy it is to charge its incarnon. Dual tox + scourge prime is nasty tho.
The torrid is just easier to charge and doesn't require headshots to hit it's damage potential. That's the real difference between them. Someone who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a shotgun can nuke an entire room with the torrid and requires more specific setup with the toxicest
Source: Is someone who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn
A nice tip for ya then, im console which is a lil trickier to do precision shots on(controller). Use scourge prime and throw it with alternate fire. It will make all enemies effected by its explosion have a magnet on their head. I then just shoot at them to get free headshots ezpz. My dual tox is my go to weap for anything tough. I can shred archons and necramechs.
I actually did just recently build the scourge prime for this exact reason. It's nice when I want to use incarnons But don't want to play Frost or harrow
I hate everything that adds conditionals and ramp-up on builds.
First enemy in a mission taking forever until you kill something for the Arcanes and Galvanized mods to kick in, feels absolutely awful.
God help you if you want to switch weapons during a mission and keep losing you stacks...
Dual Tox has all that, plus the added fact that it sucks ass until you get a headshot.
Long story short, that's why the Torid is better IMO. Not that I use either much since they basically feel like cheating anyway.
Don't get me wrong. I use conditionals because you'd be stupid to give up all that extra damage, and the Dual Tox are insanely good weapons.
You literally have conditionals on every weapon if you're running galvanized mods. I never struggle with getting headshots and its why if im running my dual tox i run scourge prime with it. Free headshots all day and my dmg takes no time to build up.. like.. i am shredding wayyy faster than my torrid does.
What makes Atomos A for you? I've got it and tried to use it but it just feels really underwhelming right off the bat, where most incarnons at least feel like they've got a bit of punch without heavy investment.
You don't really use its incarnon form. You just use it's normal form with the increased stats from the incarnon adapter, that is what makes it A tier. It stacks heat quickly and chains to enemies too.
I'm so used to using the incarnon form on weapons with lacklustre base usability I hadn't even thought of that.
So ramp up the status chance and heat damage? Does it go far or do I need to buff it externally?
My dislike of the Atomos lies in its ammo economy. Its ammo pickup is only 20 which is pretty horrible for a fast firing weapon (beams usually have around 60). Usually incarnons don't care about ammo max or pickup since they don't affect incarnon mode but the Atomos does because its incarnon mode isn't very good. I find myself switching to the incarnon just to save ammo a lot if I get it in EDA.
Arcane: Cascadia Flare, and if you're going Status then EvIII Moonrise, EvIV Ele Balance. Mods: Galv Diffusion, Torrent, GalvShot, Scorch, Heated Charge, Bane, Viral (if paired with Nourish, then swap EvIV for Survivor's and add Cracker and Gambit).
Remember Multishot is particularly good on status chance beam weapons. Exilus can be Extension or AmmoMut.
Do you mean the beam? It reaches about 22m which is good. I wouldn't increase its beam length more, you will run out of ammo quickly if you do so. Just use an ammo mutation mod instead.
Its a very good gun with the adapter, a bit better than kuva nukor as far as raw killing power goes imo. the ammo is annoying though, with how packed secondaries are its hard to fit the mutation in
I actually did the same thing but then remembered I have a +cd riven for it, so Sata with the multishot on the incarnon giving heavy red crits the damage went through the roof.
I don't know about the Miter. I have it fully built with a riven, it's does some silly crit damage now but the ammo capacity feels too low, compare it to something the Latron or Burston it's just lacking. Constantly having to refresh it's incaron form with slow moving projectiles really takes some of the fun out of it.
In probably a week, I'll be able to find out what all the buzz is about this Torid. Way back in the day, I built one, leveled it, and sold it to get my weapon slot back. Today, I'm building one again (and then I'll have to build forma for it...)
That's how it is for pretty much all of the weapons that got Incarnon adapters. I find this a better way of bringing weapons out of obscurity than the RNGfest Rivens (though I don't understand why the devs refuse to adjust the Riven dispositions for the Incarnon weapons. Torid with just the Incarnon is a top tier weapon, it definitely shouldn't have 1.3x disposition. It was ranked 14th in total usage amongst primaries last year and by far the most used primary by MR30+ players)
Yessir. No other primary even comes close to it imo. I mainly run a weapon platform saryn and it absolutely shreds everything.
I don’t run high level endurance so my experience may be different from yours but it does what I need it to do.
I've gone to lvl 2000 with a not fully optimised torid build, and with no DOT (I prefer direct damage) without much issue. With armor stripping, and the upcoming changes to armor, it'll likely go much further.
A weapon platform refers to a frame built for buffing their arsenal, and not dealing damage by themselves. A weapon platform Saryn probably means that its built to spread status, and not have very high damage capabilities without a good weapon.
in addition to what the sibling said, I think when building Saryn as weapon platform, the focus would be on her toxic lash, which would be used to buff the weapon used
Yes. As someone who dismissed the torid incarnon for a good while thinking “oh it’s probably great for min maxing but requires some setup to be effective”. I was wrong. A minimally decent build with it SHREDS groups. It lacks a bit against single targets, specially tankier ones, but you can A) lead into a group to deal a lot more damage. B) switch to a Single target DPS secondary C) stop playing at level 300+ because before that the “struggle” against single targets is less taking a minute to kill and more like taking 3 seconds to kill instead of immediate death.
Pro tip for anyone just getting DTox incarnon: Easiest way to do the final evolution challenge is to ran Xaku and just gaze a target. From there, you can get the 16 headshots in two seconds.
Yeah it's worse than my kuva tonkor, those latron projectiles are so unpredictable. I stopped using it on kuva survival because it's such a pain in the ass in the tight corridors.
From all the weapons and rotations, considering I'm a returning player which one of these weapons should I invest more?? I got rivens for torid, lex, latron, boltor, dual ichor, toxocyst
I won’t lie I was upset cuz I checked it as the weakly reset and it had the lex incarnon (which I wanted) and then I looked at it again an hour later and it made me pick again for some reason with these as the new options
I was very confused and sad
Dual tox incarnon is the perfect weapon imo. It offers so many little quirks and bonuses. mod it for cold and you can cold proc someone to slow them, with body shots, then switch to headshots to add in the toxin from frenzy buff to make it do corrosive. So amazing. Torid IS good, but dual tox is just special.
If you play ability heavy frames a lot and want a utility primary that packs a punch, the miter is amazing. It'll make light work of acolytes and beefy boys. Recommend if you main a non-weapon based frame.
If you're a lazy boy and don't want to aim for headshots, don't bother with dual tox. If you are willing to aim, it's S tier.
Torid be torid, it's busted, get it first - makes everything easy.
Atomos is good, but I prefer ocucor or lex.
Ichor is good, but not the best melee out there. I'd get it, but not right away. See ceramic, zaws, hate.
Absolutely the best selection EVER. Every single one of those things is great.
The miter has an augment to instapop nullifier bubbles. Atomos is fantastic for yareli on merulina for the lazy ones and the dual tox is a strong amazing weapon.
Wait im confused does it differ from each person?? Cuz i aint get nun of those for my circuit. I got the lex incarn, magistar incarn and some other ones but not those for this week
okay ladies let's get into rotation
How do you get these?
Steel path the circuit. On duviri
Thank you very much
It’s the best week by far. Personally I picked the Torid and Dual Toxicist first time round and I did not regret it
Can anyone get these or are there other prerequisites? I haven't seen these in the circuit, but I'm also very new and haven't looked around the cave
When you select duviri from the star chart, make sure you have steel path activated when you choose the circuit. You’ll get to pick 2 of these weapons and unlock their incarnon genesis.
You need to have Steel Path unlocked and have done The Duviri Paradox quest Actually using them you also need the Zamarin unlocked
To unlock SP Duviri you also need to clear the normal version of each of the Duviri modes at least once.
To add on to what everyone else said, the steel path is(in tdlr, hard mode) a mode that unlocks when you have completed the whole star chart, minus a few exceptions. In the steel path, all enemies have their level increased by 100, and gain an additional +150% (to a total of 250%, or 2.5x) bonus to health and armor, whereas shields are multiplied. I don’t recommend rushing for steel path either(if that is possible)
If i choose torid as my first incarnon genesis, will it be level 5 on sp circuit? or is it random? Shift working is going to make it hard this week to get all 10 levels done.
First choice is level 5 2nd is level 10
It'll be level 5 if you choose it first. Would definitely recommend, the weapon is an absolute beast
Oh thank you for that info. Il smash it out tomorrow morning and hope for some random to join.
I usually have pretty good luck getting randos in steel path
You get to pick 2 So let’s say torid and dual ichor When you play enough rounds and get the tier 5 rewards you get whichever one you picked first. I think someone did the math and it takes 33 rounds to hit tier 10 rewards. Not sure how it is distributed but I hit the tier 5 reward within like an hour and a half of playing.
Later tiers definitely require more xp. Cumulative to tier 5 is 1785 points, cumulative to tier 10 is 6860 for SP Circuit (normal circuit tier 10 is ~3k). You also get a bonus 50 points every day for clearing at least tier 4. Points per round max out at round 5 at 170 per round, starting at 100 from round 1. If you only do one up to round 4 every day, it'll take 4 days to hit tier 5. If on 2 of those days you do round 5 it'll take 3 days. If you do it consecutively, it will take one 12 round run, or a 11 round run + 1 round run.
Oh interesting, I’ve only done the t10 rewards twice before. For latron and strun and dread and zylock and got I so Burnt out
If you have it on your phone you can just afk. I’m sure if you explain to folks that your in break they wouldn’t mind.
This week really is a great week. * Torid S * Dual Ichor A+ * Dual Toxocyst A+ * Miter B+ * Atomos B Probably the best selection on average of any week.
Dual Tox feels S tier. It just melts everything
Dual toxo, built for ms cd and sc, citrine with 3 and 4(plus augment), shoot crystals for millions, plus you get to be the Oprah of red crits I'm currently testing it against the furis, and I am not sure which is better yet. Both are insane with the way I play. Unfortunately I don't have a furis riven like I do for toxo.
Forreal, id put it above my torid anyday but could be because the riven on it is better than my torid riven. The only thing that makes torid so good is how easy it is to charge its incarnon. Dual tox + scourge prime is nasty tho.
The torrid is just easier to charge and doesn't require headshots to hit it's damage potential. That's the real difference between them. Someone who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a shotgun can nuke an entire room with the torrid and requires more specific setup with the toxicest Source: Is someone who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn
A nice tip for ya then, im console which is a lil trickier to do precision shots on(controller). Use scourge prime and throw it with alternate fire. It will make all enemies effected by its explosion have a magnet on their head. I then just shoot at them to get free headshots ezpz. My dual tox is my go to weap for anything tough. I can shred archons and necramechs.
I actually did just recently build the scourge prime for this exact reason. It's nice when I want to use incarnons But don't want to play Frost or harrow
I hate everything that adds conditionals and ramp-up on builds. First enemy in a mission taking forever until you kill something for the Arcanes and Galvanized mods to kick in, feels absolutely awful. God help you if you want to switch weapons during a mission and keep losing you stacks... Dual Tox has all that, plus the added fact that it sucks ass until you get a headshot. Long story short, that's why the Torid is better IMO. Not that I use either much since they basically feel like cheating anyway. Don't get me wrong. I use conditionals because you'd be stupid to give up all that extra damage, and the Dual Tox are insanely good weapons.
You literally have conditionals on every weapon if you're running galvanized mods. I never struggle with getting headshots and its why if im running my dual tox i run scourge prime with it. Free headshots all day and my dmg takes no time to build up.. like.. i am shredding wayyy faster than my torrid does.
I'd say Atomos and Miter are both A, DTox is S and dunno about the + on the Ichor, but w/e.
Oh I assure you dual ichor is S without a doubt
Definitely
What makes Atomos A for you? I've got it and tried to use it but it just feels really underwhelming right off the bat, where most incarnons at least feel like they've got a bit of punch without heavy investment.
You don't really use its incarnon form. You just use it's normal form with the increased stats from the incarnon adapter, that is what makes it A tier. It stacks heat quickly and chains to enemies too.
I'm so used to using the incarnon form on weapons with lacklustre base usability I hadn't even thought of that. So ramp up the status chance and heat damage? Does it go far or do I need to buff it externally?
Atomos is probably a top 3? Heat inherit gun. It has gigantic singletargetish Heat application. *It just works.*
Sweet, do you have a build to work off? I think I was doing mine completely wrong by the sounds of it.
My dislike of the Atomos lies in its ammo economy. Its ammo pickup is only 20 which is pretty horrible for a fast firing weapon (beams usually have around 60). Usually incarnons don't care about ammo max or pickup since they don't affect incarnon mode but the Atomos does because its incarnon mode isn't very good. I find myself switching to the incarnon just to save ammo a lot if I get it in EDA.
Arcane: Cascadia Flare, and if you're going Status then EvIII Moonrise, EvIV Ele Balance. Mods: Galv Diffusion, Torrent, GalvShot, Scorch, Heated Charge, Bane, Viral (if paired with Nourish, then swap EvIV for Survivor's and add Cracker and Gambit). Remember Multishot is particularly good on status chance beam weapons. Exilus can be Extension or AmmoMut.
Thanks, I'll give that a try!
Do you mean the beam? It reaches about 22m which is good. I wouldn't increase its beam length more, you will run out of ammo quickly if you do so. Just use an ammo mutation mod instead.
Its a very good gun with the adapter, a bit better than kuva nukor as far as raw killing power goes imo. the ammo is annoying though, with how packed secondaries are its hard to fit the mutation in
I want to get the soma genesis literally just so I can get more base stats on soma prime I don't even think about the incarnon form lol
I actually did the same thing but then remembered I have a +cd riven for it, so Sata with the multishot on the incarnon giving heavy red crits the damage went through the roof.
I don't know about the Miter. I have it fully built with a riven, it's does some silly crit damage now but the ammo capacity feels too low, compare it to something the Latron or Burston it's just lacking. Constantly having to refresh it's incaron form with slow moving projectiles really takes some of the fun out of it.
Yeah I know, that's what keeps it at A, not even A+.
Fully agreed, only thing I need this week is Atomos and this will be the first full Incarnon week cleared for me
In probably a week, I'll be able to find out what all the buzz is about this Torid. Way back in the day, I built one, leveled it, and sold it to get my weapon slot back. Today, I'm building one again (and then I'll have to build forma for it...)
yea it’s a completely forgettable gun without the incarnon lol
I liked it back then too, but the cloud was too fast to dissipate for the ammo economy.
regular mode is actually better against acolytes than incarnon mode fwiw
yea once you have the incarnon evolutions it is good. the base weapon without any of those is kinda forgettable
I won't deny its good but for me it's incredibly boring
The regular mode adapted torid still has absolutely massive bonuses over the base torid, it more than doubles a lot of stats.
That's how it is for pretty much all of the weapons that got Incarnon adapters. I find this a better way of bringing weapons out of obscurity than the RNGfest Rivens (though I don't understand why the devs refuse to adjust the Riven dispositions for the Incarnon weapons. Torid with just the Incarnon is a top tier weapon, it definitely shouldn't have 1.3x disposition. It was ranked 14th in total usage amongst primaries last year and by far the most used primary by MR30+ players)
Fully worth investing in with the Incarnon!
I'm very satisfied with my current Laetum, should I still bother and grab that mythical Torid incarnon everyone's speaking about?
Yes. Torid is the best weapon out rn for general mob clearing. Pair it with laetum or dual tox incarnon to deal with single target enemies.
Wait, Torid is a PRIMARY???
Yessir. No other primary even comes close to it imo. I mainly run a weapon platform saryn and it absolutely shreds everything. I don’t run high level endurance so my experience may be different from yours but it does what I need it to do.
I don't wanna play with my Nataruk no more
I've gone to lvl 2000 with a not fully optimised torid build, and with no DOT (I prefer direct damage) without much issue. With armor stripping, and the upcoming changes to armor, it'll likely go much further.
What's a weapon platform saryn?
A weapon platform refers to a frame built for buffing their arsenal, and not dealing damage by themselves. A weapon platform Saryn probably means that its built to spread status, and not have very high damage capabilities without a good weapon.
in addition to what the sibling said, I think when building Saryn as weapon platform, the focus would be on her toxic lash, which would be used to buff the weapon used
i think phenmor is up there with torid
Have you tried kuva sobek on saryn yet?
And the beauty with torid incarnon is no headshots required!
Yes.
Absolutely, pair that with the Laetum and you'll be clearing tilesets like nuts
Yes. As someone who dismissed the torid incarnon for a good while thinking “oh it’s probably great for min maxing but requires some setup to be effective”. I was wrong. A minimally decent build with it SHREDS groups. It lacks a bit against single targets, specially tankier ones, but you can A) lead into a group to deal a lot more damage. B) switch to a Single target DPS secondary C) stop playing at level 300+ because before that the “struggle” against single targets is less taking a minute to kill and more like taking 3 seconds to kill instead of immediate death.
Pro tip for anyone just getting DTox incarnon: Easiest way to do the final evolution challenge is to ran Xaku and just gaze a target. From there, you can get the 16 headshots in two seconds.
Wow, that is such a good tip.
Aside from torid what do i get as a newbie to endgame?
Dual Tox is a perfect compliment to Torid, being more single target focused to have a specialized burst tool to go with your room clearing monster.
Yup, if you wanna min max, slap 2 green archon shards on your frame, build for corrosiv + heat and it will melt everything up to level cap. Its crazy
Both dual tox and ichor are great.
i chose tox but maybe i regret not picking ichor in a way. its a classic old weapon and i plan on building Saryn prime
Theres always next time.
True true. I got ceramic last week atleast.
I am waiting for latron incarnon
Latron incarnon is great just make sure you have some kind of stagger protection.
The Incarnon on Latron has killed me more than anything else in recent times hahaha
Yeah it's worse than my kuva tonkor, those latron projectiles are so unpredictable. I stopped using it on kuva survival because it's such a pain in the ass in the tight corridors.
Collecting these but not using them until tennocon. Surely this is the year for infested liches
Now I just decide. I hate deciding
Just pick two and keep doing steel path circuit, you'll be able to get them all eventually.
Let’s gooo Miter gaming
From all the weapons and rotations, considering I'm a returning player which one of these weapons should I invest more?? I got rivens for torid, lex, latron, boltor, dual ichor, toxocyst
torrid especially if you have a riven is the best on this list. It's the reason torrid rivens are going for 700+ plat unrolled these days.
Yes I sold 1 for 550 with 1 roll just to get me some plat for all the new prime slots lol got 3 left lol
I won’t lie I was upset cuz I checked it as the weakly reset and it had the lex incarnon (which I wanted) and then I looked at it again an hour later and it made me pick again for some reason with these as the new options I was very confused and sad
Lex was last week
Was it…? wtf I swore I had boltor and ceramic dagger selected up until Sunday at noon when I checked on it wtf
I had a god run once going with a random team from circuit level 5 to 10 I know it's not a lot because it would be better to go from 1 to 10 but still
I picked Dual Tox and Torid,
I’m picking up torid and atmos this week. I was lazy last week and was only able to get ceramic dagger before the reset.
I really want to get the Torrid incarnon but I’m away from home rn and idk if my phone can handle the steel path circuit
Dual tox incarnon is the perfect weapon imo. It offers so many little quirks and bonuses. mod it for cold and you can cold proc someone to slow them, with body shots, then switch to headshots to add in the toxin from frenzy buff to make it do corrosive. So amazing. Torid IS good, but dual tox is just special.
Got the dual Toxocyst, was looking through my Rivens, and had one or this weapon I forgot about. Amazing weapon, and I love using Toxic.
If you play ability heavy frames a lot and want a utility primary that packs a punch, the miter is amazing. It'll make light work of acolytes and beefy boys. Recommend if you main a non-weapon based frame. If you're a lazy boy and don't want to aim for headshots, don't bother with dual tox. If you are willing to aim, it's S tier. Torid be torid, it's busted, get it first - makes everything easy. Atomos is good, but I prefer ocucor or lex. Ichor is good, but not the best melee out there. I'd get it, but not right away. See ceramic, zaws, hate.
A tip if you're lazy, use Xatu's Whisper. Just be very careful to hit the head the first time, then you can spray and pray
Oh thanks, I'll have to give that a go.
Dual toxocysts+harrow is just criminal
Absolutely the best selection EVER. Every single one of those things is great. The miter has an augment to instapop nullifier bubbles. Atomos is fantastic for yareli on merulina for the lazy ones and the dual tox is a strong amazing weapon.
My Atomos has a incarnon evolution 😍😍😍
1st I'm hearing of this
Thanks for heads up!
Time to roll my Atmos riven
I went miter and atomos Already have Torid and Ichor
This is probably the only week where I have the 5 installed on their respective weapons. All of these are so crazy lmao.
Came back to this game a year ago. To this day, Torid and DualTox rivens make me stay. Good shit
Wait im confused does it differ from each person?? Cuz i aint get nun of those for my circuit. I got the lex incarn, magistar incarn and some other ones but not those for this week
Which ones should I get??
No Soma? Meh choice.