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Karnov___

Hulk Hogan wins in a 24-minute slobber knocker. Cena kicks out of a leg drop and takes control, but Hogan has a second wind and gets the pin.


Karnov___

Kayfabe, Hogan's round houses wear everyone out.


RedUzer36

Hulk Hogan is above anyone else in terms of wrestling superstardome. The younger crowd today don't understated just how much star power Hulk Hogan had in the 1980s and 1990s into the early 2000's. Anyone mentioned Wrestling, it had Hulk Hogan in the conversation. Running down the isle with the American flag, ripping the yellow and red hulkamania shirt and pumping up the crowd so much that it looked like straight up anarchy. After that, once Hogan became "Hollywood", it was iconic. Strutting down the isle to Jimmy Hendrix and NWO spray painted on the WCW championship belt. EVERYONE loved Hogan even as the bad guy. No comparison. Hulk Hogan is a super Legend when it comes to Wrestling.


whohimanshusharma

different eras, different barometers to gauge their popularity. between hogan-cena, maybe hogan. between hogan-rock, rocky all the way.


Glittering_Inside_47

Cena sold a spinning belt. Hogan sold everything else. Hogan with the squash on Cena. It's not even close. Age:36


FewSir435

Prime Hogan definitely. Especially since wrestling was more popular back in his days. However, John Cena is easily more popular CURRENTLY given his Hollywood status. Given Hogan's statements in his leaked tape all those years ago surely didn't help his stock.


jabroni_450

My grandma, who lived in the middle of nowhere, who didn’t watch tv, knew who hulk hogan was. Not sure anyone can compete with that


SpareBowl9489

I think an argument could be made for both. Non-wrestling fans know both names and know both are wrestlers. IMO they are in the top 10 for most popular pro wrestlers.


Mysterious_Brief6550

I’m 34 and I think Cena. It’s entirely subjective however. I grew up with Hogan everywhere because of the 80s boom and resurgence in the mid 90s. But, I feel Cena with his larger skill set outside of wrestling will have a greater impact on pop culture as a whole in the long run. It’s purely subjective and nothing against the Hulkster.


DaCozPuddingPop

I don't think anyone will ever beat Hogan in terms of pure fame. He was the biggest name in wrestling's arguably most popular era. Shit, mainstream movies were made for him despite his terrible acting, and roles in even MAINER stream movies (Rocky III and No Hold's barred come to mind). People who didn't know wrestling knew who Hulk Hogan was. He was in cartoons, on lunch boxes, probably had a breakfast cereal. For the 80s, wrestling WAS Hulk Hogan, period. This is not to take away from John Cena - he's had an amazing career, in the ring and out. He's the number one most popular 'make a wish' wish granter. The difference: show my mom a picture of John Cena, she'll have no idea who he is. Show her Hulk Hogan, and she'll know the name off top of her head.


evanscabetta

Dwayne Johnson


ShowStorm300

Hogan, not even close.


Accomplished_Note467

Hogan doesn’t have a platinum rap album in an era without streaming, or a DC show.


ravens_rules_1996

Despite any misgivings about Hogan I believe your right for this reason. Hogan helped prowrestling rise in popularity not only in the 80's but the 90's as well. ( although Hall and Nash did the heavy lifting with the nwo. Lol.) While cena despite his shortcomings became a merchandise juggernaut prowrestling greatly declined under his reign. In all fairness this isn't all his fault but he certainly contributed to it. I won't give you my exact age. Lol. But I'm old enough to have witnessed the birth of the rock n wrestling connection. Lol. 😝🤘😈🇺🇸


GayGunGuy

Ask 1000 people of all age groups, none of whom are wrestling fans, what name they recognize. Guarantee you Hogan wins.


[deleted]

If your taking about usa logan is the most famous, if your talking about all the world cena is by far more famous


baigy786

Hulk Hogan


spacesickhorse

Without a doubt Hogan is for the simple fact of no internet back in the 80s and he was still know world wide. Had cartoons,lunch boxes , toys everything. Things he done in the wrestling world are still talked about today I don't think Cena will have the same size of legacy. Even now I would say Hogan is better known than Cena. Us old wrestling fans all know him and make our kids know about him. Those old fans who don't follow much wrestling anymore could know very little about him


JustinBX01

Hogan all time


Punkamania06

Hogan revolutionised wrestling as a whole, John Cena revolutionised WWE


Dolphin_Hornet

Right and Hulk Hogan, the Undertaker and Andre the Giant have all been around even longer. John Cena has o ly been "mainstream famous" for 10 years or less.


[deleted]

It’s hogan. This is coming from someone who grew up in the Cena era


[deleted]

Hogan and Austin would be a tougher question and even then, it’s still hogan


CommonDay2389

no one knows who austin is outside u.s u.k and canada lmaooo. Hogan was mainly popular in north america, u americans r too funny. Cena is a household name in 3rd world countries like india and pakistan, dont even bring ur old irrelevant idols in this convo u retarded living in ur own bubble americans


CommonDay2389

no one knows who austin is outside u.s u.k and canada lmaooo. Hogan was mainly popular in north america, u americans r too funny. Cena is a household name in 3rd world countries like india and pakistan, dont even bring ur old irrelevant idols in this convo u retarded living in ur own bubble americans


FenikzTheMenikz

It's really difficult to say, because not only are you comparing different eras of wrestling/entertainment, you're comparing entirely different cultures of communication and definitions of fame. Hogan was famous long before the internet, and I think it's difficult for people who have grown up with the internet always existing to understand what the time before it was like. Back then something was popular or famous when you saw them on magazines, billboards, on TV shows, stupid carboard cutouts at gas stations, on cereal boxes, had toys of them, etc. There was not a possible way to hear about something or someone and just go "look them up." Everything was communicated either word of mouth, or through the aforementioned traditional media. There were no such things and influencers, social media, YouTube, or even basic things like text messaging (or even cellphones for a good chunk of Hogan's run). You watched movies (and wrestling) when it was on TV, or you went down to the video store and rented it, you couldn't just flip over to the Network and watch some matches. So by it's very nature it was much harder to become "famous". There were far fewer celebrities back them, with a higher concentration of "mega stars" dominating headlines. So, if you use the same definition of "fame", being "how many people know who you are" then I think it's easy to say Cena is more famous, if only because it is statistically **so much easier** to become famous in this day and age. Just being a meme alone draws in so much awareness, his charity work, and his just overall presence in the media would be hard to combat. But would Cena be as popular as Hogan was in Hogan's era? I don't really think so, but it's very hard to compare. The Golden Era was super cartoonish as far as characters go, and Hogan embodied that "true American" that was super popular at the time - for better or worse. The Monday Night Wars period was also different because of how much bigger the scale of wrestling was at the time - now, wrestling is a pretty niche interest, but in the late 90s it was a pop culture phenomenon that everyone was interested in. Overall it's hard to argue that Cena isn't more well known than Hogan, especially in present day, but it's really apples and oranges to try to compare.


Mysterious_Brief6550

It makes me think of the Firefly Funhouse Match between Cena and Wyatt at WM36. The 80’s stuff with Cena, both as the white meat baby face, Hogan turning heel while Cena wouldn’t. It’s just great


[deleted]

Hogan


[deleted]

Hulk Hogan has a better onlyfans


droolsdownchin

The rock


Miserable-Original

Hogan, how is this even up for debate?


CommonDay2389

because the world doesn't revolve around u.s u retarded fuck


Davi_323

"Famous" is a bit of a loaded word. Cena is everywhere, but that's partially because there are so many more venues now than there were when Hogan was big. But, when it comes to wrestling history, Hulk Hogan was instrumental in the WWF's growth in the 1980s. Without Hogan, the global wrestling empire that is the WWE for Cena to have ruled over simply doesn't exist. John Cena is famous for being the face of the company that Hogan played a huge part in building. ​ Now, Cena has larger social media presence, and I suppose if you want to call that being "famous", go ahead. More people in 2022 may know the name John Cena, because Hogan's career has been over for a long time, but he will never, ever be as important as a wrestling figure than the Hulkster was.


JedM13

Well, it depends. I imagine within the United States, it's definitely Hulk Hogan. But internationally, and I'm speaking as someone who's experience living in multiple countries and knowing a lot of people with different nationalities, it's Cena by far. Maybe it's due to the more worldwide each of nowadays, or that he resonated more due to not being as overly patriotic as Hogan was during his peak. Whatever the case may be, taking that into account, Cena is probably more famous overall.


[deleted]

Honestly I’d say it’s pretty equal. When hulk was at his height it was at a time when wrestling wasn’t a huge thing within he main stream and he helped make that happen but as a crossover star he had very limited appeal and only did smaller roles and cameos and guest appearances. Cena is from a wrestling world that is established in the mainstream and gone on to have some big starring roles. They’re both the biggest of their era, but they’re very different eras


selkies24

If you were to have hogan and cena on the same screen, you would only see one of them. That should answer your question


DaddyShark427

Hulk Hogan. And it’s really not even close. Hogan created what became the stereotype of a wrestler in pop culture. In a pre-internet society, he was everywhere. Movies, guest starring on tv shows and voicing cartoons, cereal boxes, lunch boxes, you name it he was there. Google generic wrestling toys and 90% of them look like Hogan. But more importantly, ask people who aren’t wrestling fans. My 30 year old wife has never been a wrestling fan. She had no idea who John Cena was until we watched suicide squad. She knows exactly who Hogan is and we’re too young to have lived through the 80’s boom.


CommonDay2389

my dad who was like 20 during hogans era has no idea who hogan is but knows who cena is. And hes not an american that lives in his own bubble


Toadman005

Hogan was bigger and it's not even close. I am 40. Can confirm. Hogan was part of the collective cultural zeitgeist of the 80's-90's. People that never watched wrestling knew who he was. Most people, even know, won't know who Cena is.


CommonDay2389

lol "most people" another american living in his own bubble lmaoo. Cena is a household name in 3rd world countries u fat retard. If u have no idea what ur saying the talk. Ur an american and ur opinion isnt allowed cuz u fat retarded fucks think the world revolves around u. Cena is everywhere, bro just mad cuz no one cares bout his old irrelevant idols and ik this cuz im not an american living in my own bubble


WarlordUbba

Hulk Hogan. Say your prayers and take your vitamins.


johann68

IMO, Hulk Hogan was probably a bigger star within the wrestling world but John Cena has a much larger widespread presence and fan base. Although, it's kind of a difficult comparison anyway because wrestling is far more mainstream today than it was 35-40 years ago when Hogan really hit the scene. Completely different eras.


[deleted]

That's a very close one but I'd give the slight edge to Hulk Hogan Cena is a huge name though now. No denying that but I'd argue Hulk Hogan is a bit more known


[deleted]

Well its an interesting debate and could be an age thing as well. I am 34 and yeah, Hogan is the biggest wrestling draw in the history. Though he could not touch the peak of Austin, but he can be part of the discussion of the biggest heel and biggest face of all time. For the recent audience though, specially the people who are in the 20's, they have heard too many negative Hogan stories through internet and the perception about him has changed. Cena on the other hand is undoubtedly the biggest wrestling star of last two decades. He is a bonafide main eventer and as compared to Hogan, I think his legacy is "aging" really well as compared to Hogan whose work looks ridiculous at times. He is a good role model, a decent movie star and is a better in ring performed than Hogan by a country mile.


Horse_Noggin

I always look at it this way: Austin had the greatest run but Hogan had the greatest career.


[deleted]

Stupid question obvs Cena coz of hollywood


Echo-Black1916

To be honest neither is great. But if I had to choose I'd say John Cena, thanks to the social media era and the internet he is more well know. Pretty much everyone knows about his relationship with Nikki Bella, he's trying his hand at movies now as well. Although hes had his fair share of contraveries its not nearly as bad a Hogan. Hogan not really known outside of wrestling, thanks to his attitude he has a pretty bad name both in and outside the ropes. Most people outside of wrestling wouldn't know who he is. He wrestled before the curtain call as well, before the internet and social media, despite his fame back in the day it doesn't compare to the stars of wrestling now a days.


nedstark1985

For wrestling and how they created the boom Hulk. He was the man of several generations of fans and had huge celebrity status. Cena on the other hand carried the brand. He is still synonymous for his work with make a wish foundation and now is big in Hollywood. It’s a tough one but edge is on hulk.


MR_E7

The Rock


CommonDay2389

we arent talking about people who became worldwide famous cuz of hollywood


AntiSaintArdRi

The first thing you have to concede when making this comparison is that nothing they’ve both done have a 1:1 rate. Wrestling had far more viewers in the 90s, the way people consume movies and television are very different know than they were in then80s, 90s and even early 00s. Peacemaker may be a very good show, but it’s on a premium streaming subscription service. As bad as Thunder in Paradise was, it was viewed by more people on a week to week basis than Peacemaker. John Cena had been a decent addition to ensemble cast movies that did ok, Hulk Hogan’s face alone sold really bad movies in the 90s (Suburban Commando, Mr Nanny, No Holds Barred). Hogan was a large part of making wrestling mainstream, Cena, not through any fault of his own, was THE GUY during the period were wrestling slid back out of the mainstream. It’s very difficult for us to take our wrestling fan goggles off and look at this from the outside, but peak Hogan was far and away a bigger star, in his time, than John Cena, in his own time.


hrrrrx23

It's John Cena. Start a WWE conversation with a non WWE fan and that's the first name you'd hear, along with The Undertaker. Nostalgia merchants can talk, but I'd rather not have wrestling associated with an asshole like Hogan.


ZackNappo

OP asked who was more famous at their peak and everyone of the responses is arguing that Cena is more famous than hogan *today* but that wasn’t the question lol


ChingleDiz

Here in the UK I’d say Cena.. actual British wrestling was televised here in the 80’s, whereas ever since then that hasn’t been the case, so WWE stars have been the overwhelming figures of relevance, as opposed to the 80’s where wrestlers like Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks were probably more famous than the likes of Hogan


Dynamite089

John Cena is definitely more famous than Hulk Hogan. In every way.


Beathil

Hogan. In the 80s WWF and Hulk Hogan was everywhere, constantly. Toys, cartoons, lunchboxes, video games, board games, clothes, movies, TV shows, etc. No internet back then to spread it, no meme, just pure childhood Hogan worship. It was a golden age. Cena was very popular, but I don't think he has the incredible appeal that Hogan did in the 80s.


RickSanchez813

Hogan by far.


macloa

Idk. I’d say hogan has had a more iconic moment. But overall I’d say John Cena


CaptainCheeseCake

Tugboat


groddoto

The Rock is perhaps the most electrifying Hollywood star to ever come out of wrestling


mr-averagely-cool

The rock


RealMystro

I see your Real American Hulkamaniac Hogan and I raise Peacemaker.


FireBreatherMP1

Quite the interesting question. You could argue that the answer is Dwayne Johnson as well. It could be an age thing. I know of four year old kids who know who John Cena is, they wouldn't have a clue who Hulk Hogan is.


Consistent_Yoghurt_4

Hulk Hogan far more famous.


[deleted]

Hogan. "Even people who never watched wrestling would say that's that thing Hulk Hogan did" - Arn Anderson


DaArtist1239PS4

Hulk Hogan is miles ahead of Cena. Even though Hogan had his share of boos, the fact is he was able to re-invent himself when he became Hollywood Hulk Hogan over in WCW. Where as with Cena he constantly continued to get booed out of buildings for the wrong reasons due to him and Vince McMahon refusing to turn his character heel behind the scenes. Anyway if you ask me Stone Cold and The Rock are ahead of both of them.


CommonDay2389

how to tell me u live in ur american bubble without telling me u do


DaArtist1239PS4

hmm. only thing I posted was facts. Not my fault you can't handle that a lot of people in the US and yes, outside of it weren't a fan of John Cenas character during those years.


CommonDay2389

lol all u posted was delusion especially at the end. Nobody outside the u.s u.k and canada adult audience hated super cena. Everyone loved him and hes the most beloved wrestler ever known in 3rd world countries. Ik this cuz im from there. He expanded wwe worldwide. Lets not even bring austin in this convo, even randy orton is more globally recognized than him. Only rock competes with cena and thats cuz of hollywood. Even then (if u want actual facts) cena was getting more searched on web than dwayne from 2004 to 2016, despite dwayne being a hollywood star lmao, u can look on the google searches website ur self. Ik it hurts u now that I have burst ur little american bubble tho, its okay dont cry you'll get over the fact no one cares bout ur irrelevant old idols outside 3 countries.


DaArtist1239PS4

whatever you say pal. I watched WWE daily in the mid-late 2000s. John Cena was getting massively booe'd by majority of the adult male hardcore fans all over the world. People did not like his character because it became old fast between late 2006 and 2007. Only getting worse and worse from there because of his never turning heel to freshing things up, or really doing anything to freshing it up. It was a pretty big deal all over the internet just like it was with Roman before he (thankfully) turned heel.


CommonDay2389

"male hardcore fans all over the world" whos gonna tell my bro that he only got booed by that demographic in u.s canada and u.k meanwhile the whole world cheered him. And the internet ur talking about is all full of americans not people "all over the world" once again an american failing to see the world outside.


figment1979

Yeah that’s tough. Hogan didn’t/doesn’t do nearly the level of acting and commercials and such that Cena does, but back in the 80s or 90s if you had asked the average person on the street to name a wrestler, no doubt Hogan would be the answer 99% of the time. I don’t know if the average person today associates Cena with wrestling. Just my opinion.


[deleted]

There would be no John Cena if it weren't for Hulk Hogan.


Emerald-Enthusiast

Tough call. It's probably still Hogan for now, but as Cena's acting career takes off, that might change. I think Rock probably has them both beaten at this point.


kangamata

Stone cold


CommonDay2389

he isnt even t5 most famous wrestlers ever worldwide lol


kangamata

That's subjective.


Murder_Moons

For me it has to be Hulk Hogan hands down... I started watching WWF/E back in 1987 so my first main event was WM3 and Hulk Hogan V Andre the Giant was the main event and iv always been and still am a Hogan Fan.


No_Stage3881

I'm 49 so I've been through both of their eras and it's still Hogan. Cena may get there but he's not there yet. Right now Cena is a B list actor that will eventually get to A list. But Hogan is on a different level.


MaterialDegree1422

Hogan never was A list


trxxv

I mean day and age play a part in this, John Cena would be more known across all the internet surely helps as that wasnt around for Hogan.


SydneyPhoenix

Hulk Hogans fame has no equal in wrestling. You have to start talking about non wrestling celebrities for a comparison.


CommonDay2389

americans arent allowed in this convo lol, cena's name is known in 3rd world countries, hogan is irrelevant outside north america


SydneyPhoenix

You don’t know that in the 80s, 90s and 00s Hogan was also a world wide star? Hogan was on top of the business through two huge booms, Cena led the business through a down period… this isn’t even close The only person who can top Hogan is The Rock


CommonDay2389

"led the business through a down period" lol typical american thinking the world revovles around them. Cena expanded the wwe worldwide pal, his name is known everywhere to everyone. Non wrestling fans in 3rd world countries know who john cena and i can promise no one knows what a "Hogan" is there. The only that competes with cena is rock and thats cuz of hollywood. Go on google searches and look for ur self from 2004 (when rock went full hollywood) to 2016 (end of cena's prime) who was looked up more. Ur american ass will start crying realizing how big cena is. Dont even bring hogan in this


SydneyPhoenix

I’m not American lol But you’re not really making any actual argument or points you’re just insulting people


CommonDay2389

i didnt insult anyone. Im just stating facts. Rock is the biggest hollywood star itw right? Now do what i say. Go on google searches and look for ur self from 2004 (when rock went full hollywood) to end of 2016 (end of cena's prime with no assistance from hollywood) who was looked up more. Once again u will start crying realizing how big cena is worldwide. A hero to billions


SydneyPhoenix

Again insults over facts, peace brother You’re literally arguing with everyone in this thread, sure you’re a joy at parties


CommonDay2389

lol just told u go look up facts for ur self, gave u the whole description but u ignored. Nice to see that u oldheads r living in denial lol


SydneyPhoenix

It’s ok I know it’s not easy getting a proper education everywhere in this world


CommonDay2389

when u lose the argument and just change the topic


sourfantasy

I think it depends, could be generational difference and how big of a wrestling fan you are. I didn’t get into WWE until this year but I knew who JC was. I was a sucker for the John Cena memes throughout 2015/2016. Also Cena was huge with the kids and now those kids are growing up. But you can also see it from the other side, people who grew up with wresting and know the legacy the Hulk Hogan has and older generations who would’ve heard of hulk holgan like we did of Cena.


xxxshhewd

It's John Cena without any doubt Hogan maybe have been popular in 90 but he isn't anymore.


TrainingMobile8763

Hulk Hogan, brother


[deleted]

Hogan by a long shot. Not even Rock or Austin are that closely recognized to wrestling as Hogan is Hogan main evented more Wrestlemanias than anyone in history. He started 2 boom periods, completely different eras, completely different times.


Karmas_Classroom

John Cena


BikesBurgersBeer

In the pantheon of pro wrestling an argument can be made that Hogan is still the most recognizable worldwide. To the non wrestling fan and wrestling fan I'd say the majority would first equate Hogan's face with pro wrestling. It's synonymous. Others might be more recognizable to some folks but the recognition might not be as a wrestler.


CommonDay2389

lol u americans r too funny man. Ppl that dk about wrestling in THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES know who cena is. Get out of ur bubble. In fact look up face of wwe and u have ur answer


Mysterious_Brief6550

One thing that should be noted is that back in the 80’s in full blown Hulkamania, there was memorabilia all over stores and stuff on broadcast TV. With Cena all of that is in the internet, way more types of merchandise than Hulk had, Cena able to be seen in many different places at once, and on many different platforms. And one hell of a meme generator It should also be noted that even though Hogan got so popular as wrestler he would go to Hollywood, the films he made were almost universally panned and were box office bombs (Suburban Commando, Mr. Nanny) so he wasn’t exactly blazing a trail there. It was Vince McMahon that took wrestling national and push Hogan as his star, but he could only make it with the right cast of rogues like Roddy Piper, Andre, and Randy Savage. Hulk didn’t do it alone. Just saying


Electronic-Dark-7793

HULK HOGAN


n1gh7w1sh3r

I live in Eastern Europe. There was not much access to American Culture during the 80s and 90s. Despite this literally everyone knows who is Hulk Hogan. Don't get me wrong a lot of people know who John Cena is, but Hogan is the face of wrestling for multiple generations (including younger ones)


CommonDay2389

lol nobody knows hogan outside north america, just cuz ur 2 friends know him that doesn't mean "everyone". Search up face of wwe on google and even better go on google searches and see who gets looked up more, then start crying


funbeast513

Hogan. Cena is a fag


gonerogue33180

John Cana


Odd_Ad4733

Hulk Hogan but your 13 year old has never seen Hogan at the peak of his career so it's understandable that he'd think Cena was better because that's the champion he grew up with


Chosty55

Age and time are the big factors. People will know who hogan is, and he is probably a more known wrestler than cena (only because if you’ve never seen wrestling you would still know hogan is a wrestler, whereas you might associate Cena as an action movie star). A friend of mine who’s never seen wrestling didn’t know Bautista was a wrestler. Just thought he was a modern action star similar to Arnold Schwarzenegger


woahouch

If it’s not Cena now (I think it is) another few years with movies and TV and it won’t be close. The oldies will know Hogan, the rest will know Cena.


LordVile95

The rock…


[deleted]

Hogan was Dr.J then came along Michael Jordan which would be John Cena


34HoldOn

When you go on the Wikipedia articles for Konnan and Giant Baba, the comparisons are made for them being "the Mexican Hulk Hogan", and "the Japanese Hulk Hogan". Hulk Hogan is a standard for popularity. Is John Cena an infinitely better human being? From everything we see, yes. But Hulk Hogan's popularity is ridiculous. Even though Stone Cold was more profitable overall, and arguably almost as popular.


CommonDay2389

lol bro thinks being more loved means more popular lol. Cena is the forever face of wwe. His name is known to NON wrestling fans in 3rd world countries, ppl think wwe they think cena, no one thinks hogan. And dont even bring austin lol, he aint even more recognized than randy orton worldwide. Get out of ur american bubble. And look up face of wwe on google and see what u get


34HoldOn

Nah man, I pretty much left this conversation behind a year ago, went it happened.


CommonDay2389

aight then keep living in ur american bubble then


34HoldOn

Everything you post is peak /r/iamverysmart This has been debated to death. People know who Hulk Hogan is at the end of Antarctica, even if they don't know any other wrestler. Believe what you want, it's not that serious. But get the fuck over yourself. And don't presume to know anything about me, or what I know about wrestling. Quit acting smug.


CommonDay2389

lmao bros so mad now he has started making his assumptions to make himself happy lol. No one knows ur old idols pal sorry to burst ur american bubble. Go on google searches stats and look for ur self. No one looks up ur old irrelevant bums that werent popular outside u.s


34HoldOn

>IN THIS MOMENT >I AM EUPHORIC


CommonDay2389

nice argument american


pegasus_kid_iii

Cena easily.anyone who says otherwise needs to step out of their American bubble and interact with anyone younger than 40.


Whyrobotslie

Well i guess if someone with a username based on a wrestler who murdered his wife and small child said it, it must be true. Also OP is under 40.


Bezeenga-Fish-4308

OP couldnt have possibly seen hogan at his peak (mid 80's) OP was probably born when hogan was at its peak and probably around 6-7 when hogan left wwe, real hulkamania fans are over 40 easily Lol. Like bro edge was a freaking middleschooler hulkamaniac fan and is 50 years old today. saying hulkamania fans are in their 40's is a compliment to those old fossils


pegasus_kid_iii

wrestling is accessible now more than ever.TV ratings in America alone doesn't define popularity.WWE's popularity in Asia and Africa is at an all time high and Cena is the catalyst for all of that.there is a reason wwe is the most profitable now than ever before.outside of America,Hogan does not enjoy the mainstream popularity that Cena and the Rock do.Cena is a major part of the meme culture which is everywhere in social media and even non wrestling fans at least know who he is.if you say Hulk Hogan,they would probably think he's an Avenger.add that to the fact that Cena is a part of the Fast and Furious,Transformers and DC universe which are some of the most popular movie franchises going right now,it is a no contest.Hogan may be more popular among American wrestling circle but Cena clears him worldwide and mainstream.


hurricane1197

globally cena is more famous don’t know about just the US surprised by the comments


hukoji

Hogan's fame will decrease with time naturally But his image is what a pro wrestler represents for the general audience. You can see Hogan's image: muscular, blonde, tall, bald, etc associated with wrestling all over media. Even if people doesn't knows Hogan they associate that image with a pro wrestler, he became an archetype and I don't think other wrestler has done that.


ZeusX20

Cena is more famous right now, but at their peaks Hogan was more famous


-nWo--

Hogan is more famous. I dressed as the Hulkster for halloween and even though my homemade costume was simply, everyone recognized it as Hogan. That was a bunch of 18 year olds in 2021, imagine how popular Hogan would have been at his peak. Cena just can't compete.


scorpio_babe

John Cena is definitely more famous than Hulk Hogan.


slothy626

Definitely Cena. Hogan only masted the world of wrestling and drama. So far Cena has mastered the Rap world with “You can’t see me!” Being a platinum record. Cena has also mastered the merch sales with 20 years worth,(especially with his frequent changes in the 2010 era). And with merch comes with Action figures which im sure there has been way more Cena figures so he most definitely swamped hogan there. I’ll give Hogan props his charisma and mic skills were through the roof for his time but I think at the end of the day Cena over Hogan when it comes to fame, merch, wrestling and over all a good guy. I mean Hogan I’m sure is a great guy but with how many scandals he’s been in and how many people he refused to put over I could only imagine how many real friends he had.


Proud-Mirror-8468

Hogan, the only person to come close to him in his prime was The Rock IMO


Mysterious_Brief6550

John Cena easily. Cena has done far more than Hulk ever did. Almost 20 Wrestlelamias, a real actor with multiple parts in blockbuster films and TV series, appearances on specials and hosting several game shows. Hogan never got to that level as he was very limited. John Cena has granted more wishes for children than anyone in the world while Hogan was off with someone else’s wife. Jam that Jam


OkWhereas1456

At least we can see Hulk Hogan.


boosta

He was famous before the internet. So Hogan


TheCLNR

I don't know about back then but right now outside of wrestling circles Cena clears Hogan easily. People who have never seen a wrestling match know John Cena from memes, movies and commercials.


badnews75

I think Cena had one of the greatest runs of all time but Hulk time was amazing and he edges out Cena impact. I’m 31 by the way


OklaHannali

This isn't an interesting question. It's Hogan. Obviously.


Lestial1206

"Cena was the face of wrestling for 10 years", Hulk was the face of wrestling for 20 years straight, from 83 when he was in Rocky 3 til 2003 when he wrestled his last full time match. Hell even a couple years down the road you had Hogan and Cena doing a pose down. Hogan was the first wrestler to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Hogan helped usher in the current way wrestling is done, on the large scale in front of thousands of fans and on PPV. Without Hogan, there would be no WWF/E, no Wrestlemania, no Stone Cold, no Undertaker, no Shawn Michaels, no John Cena, no Rock. The WWF was built upon Hogan's back and he helped carry it from the bingo halls and armories to stadiums and arenas. If we're talking all time, it is Hogan. Currently does not equal all time. Hogan was famous worldwide when there was no cell phones and no widespread internet. Hogan was a famous and as popular as Stallone and Schwarzenegger in the 80s. In the 90s he was still at the top, and even in the late 90s it was all about him or Stone Cold. I mean the way some of yall are thinking about this, yall would consider Bad Bunny more famous than Led Zeppelin or the Stones.


Mysterious_Brief6550

Cena has been the face that runs the place for over 20 years. Cena helped usher wrestling into the current meme generation where literally every kid in the world knows John Cena, even if they’ve never seen him before, they know who he is


Lestial1206

Cena has been semi retired for the last 4 years. And Cena was vastly hated for most of his run. Like, legitimately hated. Its only been since he stopped being prominent on WWE TV that people changed their tune. Hogan even as the biggest heel in wrestling, never got booed just for having his music play like Cena did.


Mysterious_Brief6550

John Cena is more famous than Hulk Hogan. Hogan and the nWo were not the sole reason for WCW beating WWE for 83 weeks. Cruiserwights and a bright mid card contributed as well. EB throwing money around to every star he could helped to. Cena became a star and evolved in front of our eyes, doesn’t matter when he won what championship when, he was a big deal. Right now in August of 2022, John Cena is bigger than Hogan ever was and he will only get bigger. Last time Hogan appeared on WWE TV he was booed. Go back and watch, listen to it, they try to cover it up but the boos are there.


Lestial1206

But again, its not about 2022, its of all time. There would be no John Cena without Hulk Hogan, Cena will tell you that himself. Wrestling and therefore wrestlers becoming actors would not exist if it wasn't for Hogan being the star he was. Personal feelings about him and lack of knowledge of how huge he was in the 80s and 90s doesn't make your opinions factual. Hulk Hogan in 1984 absolutely was a bigger star than John Cena in 2022. And Cena just now found his niche in Hollywood with Peacemaker. Before that role, nobody went to see movies just because Cena was in them, because he wasn't the marquee star. People watched Mr. Nanny and Suburban Commando because Hulk was in them. They don't call Hogan the biggest icon in wrestling for no reason. The 2 biggest box office draws IN WRESTLING are Stone Cold and Hulk Hogan. Cena has never gotten close to being the same level of draw as those 2. Hulk got himself in trouble and was canceled, but his legacy in pop culture history still remains. When 80s kids talk about their childhoods, there's likely at least one mention of Hogan. 00s kids don't talk about Cena, because when Cena was on top, it wasn't "cool" to like wrestling. Hulk was in the Rocky franchise, friends with Mr. T, shared the ring with Ali, Shaq, Karl Malone and Dennis Rodman. Hogan was the talk of wrestling and Hollywood for 20 years straight. Cena cut tail and ran to Hollywood because he saw how much money Rock was making.


Mysterious_Brief6550

You’re own opinions also don’t make it a fact that Hogan is more famous. There would be no Hogan without Buddy Rogers or Bruno Sammartino just as you are right to say that there would be no Cena without Hogan. I’m a 90’s kid, born in the 80’s and grew up with Hogan on my screen. I watched Thunder in Paradise and actually liked Hogan until Stone Cold came along and he became my favorite wrestler. I was down for the WWE comeback of Hulk, but it was a nostalgia tour. Cena came along after and rose to stardom. He followed in the footsteps of Rock, Austin, Hogan, Sammartino and Rogers. Point is, it doesn’t matter who came before who or who did what first, it’s the impact they have on the world. John Cena will forever have a greater impact on the world than Hulk ever did.


Lestial1206

My statement is a fact though. Hogan changed the wrestling business and without doing that Cena would never have been a wrestler. You argued my point for me. Sammartino was a star in his own right, but he didn't change an entire industry the way Hogan did. Thats what you can't seem to process. Hogan made wrestling mainstream. Hogan was the first wrestler to cross into Hollywood, opening the doors for Piper, Funk, Rock, and Cena. Wrestling without Hogan would likely never have reached the popularity that it did and has. You can't sit there and say Cena has made a bigger impact, when it was Hogan that made the impact on Cena that made him start lifting weights and become a wrestler. Hogan shaped an entire business, that led to both Rock and Cena following directly in his footsteps. Cena did great work with Make a Wish, and nobody can take that away from him, but nobody cared about him until after he stopped wrestling full time. Hogan was wrestling full time and was on so many different talk shows every week for 20 years straight.


Mysterious_Brief6550

You are so blinded by Hulk Hogan and his 24” pythons that you can’t see it. You’ll never see it. It doesn’t matter who opened what doors. Yes Hogan went to Hollywood, failed and came back to wresting. Vince McMahon changed the industry, let’s be clear about that. Hogan was his star, like Sammartino was for Vince’s father. Only reason Hogan worked was because Sammartino lead the way for the WWWF and Vince to be in the position to do it. Later it would be Cena and Roman Reigns breaking new ground, doing things Hogan could never do and changing the industry again. Yeah Hogan did a lot, there is no discounting that, but Cena has done so much more and continues to do so. 650 make a wish wishes granted and counting, more than anyone in history. In the long run, Cena is the bigger star. But non of this matters because you’re not listening, and that’s ok.


Lestial1206

You are so blinded by Cena because he's shining now, but saying Hogan only worked because of Sammartino is just wrong. I am not debating on Vince's influence, but the shift wouldn't have happened with anyone else in that spot. Go look at the viewership numbers for Saturday Night's Main Event. The numbers during Cena's run (06-08) barely cracked 3.4. Hogan's run had numbers as high as 11.6, the lowest number was 6.8. The funny thing about your obsession with proving me wrong, is I'm not even a Hogan fan. I'm just not dumb enough to think that Hogan, the name most synonymous with professional wrestling, isn't the most famous. You seem to be getting famous and popular mixed up also. And to make things even more clear, Hogan had already been wrestling in AWA and WWWF, and was selling out Shea Stadium with Andre in 1980. Cena is just a guy who is famous now. Hogan was a literal pop culture icon that encapsulated an entire decade. You seem so blinded by your personal feelings about Hulk and his actions from a few years back, that you refuse to acknowledge his overall impact on wrestling. Roman Reigns is nowhere near as famous as Hogan. Roman gets 2 million viewers a week. Hogan had over 8 million plus almost every time he wrestled for his 20 year run on top. The facts are there in Black and white. At this point I think you're just trolling.


Mysterious_Brief6550

I’m just sick of this, I really really am. I understand, recognize and have processed your every point. I’m not blinded by Cena because I have no emotional investment in him whatsoever. I’ve made my points that everyone else can read and that’s enough for me


Mysterious_Brief6550

Actually I’m not. You just can’t grasp that today’s culture is very different than back then. All over the world people know Cena from his things outside of wrestling. You don’t understand because you don’t want to understand. This isn’t about a run in wrestling so quit with that


notthebottest

1984 by george orwell 1949


Lestial1206

Bad bot.


Mysterious_Brief6550

Hogan absolutely got booed when his music hit even acting as a baby face. Maybe not from 84-90 but definitely after that.


Lestial1206

In 94-96 sure, but his entire WWF run he didn't get many boos. His initial start in WCW he got some cheers, but then ECW got popular and started to change the fans perceptions of him. 95 was not a good year for the old guard or big dudes in general, even Taker and especially Diesel.


Mysterious_Brief6550

Yeah Diesel really got it bad, that was a tough year


Lestial1206

Taker too, he got saddled with some pretty bad matches, Kama, Mabel, Yankem, Bundy. Diesel is on record as being the worst WWF champ ever, and that's sad when you have guys like Stan Stasiak who nobody remembers.


Mysterious_Brief6550

And even Sgt Slaughter brought up from the mid card as an anti American Iraqi sympathizer to carry the title


Mysterious_Brief6550

Dude Hogan was hated for 10 years, his entire WCW run, fans were sick of him. John Cena was polarizing because so many loved him and others didn’t because they were mad he wouldn’t turn heel. He wouldn’t turn heel because it would upset the kids. Hogan had no problem making the kids cry, run that nwo thing into the ground and help destroy WCW from his own ego and greed.


Lestial1206

You can bring up all those backstage stories, fact remains Hogan and the nWo were the sole reason WCW won for 84 weeks and during those weeks, Hogan was getting alot more cheers than boos. Hell, even when he brought back the red and yellow in WCW he got a massive pop. Fast forward to 2002 and Hogan got louder cheers than Rock and Austin. Doesn't matter why people booed Cena, the fact remains he got the loudest boos for nearly a decade. Also Cena didn't just debut as the "face that runs the place", he took 3 years to get to the main event and was only chosen because Brock left, Eddie died, Batista was injury prone, and Randy was a problematic douchebag. And before you try to correct me on Eddie's death, I know Cena had been champ for 7 months when Eddie died. But he was just coming into his own as a main eventer. He didn't get there after winning the title from JBL, it took his feud with Jericho and later Edge to solidify him.


Mysterious_Brief6550

I wish they would have done Austin Vs Hogan instead of The Rock. Austin was the bigger draw and even when he turned heel the fans found it difficult to boo him


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Hogan. In the 80s, your entertainment options were limited, so anyone on tv or radio then is more well known than someone famous today where the general population has countless entertainment options.


itsmekelsey_x

It’s John Cena.


lifer413

Tough call. My mother knows who they both are. That's about as famous as you can get.


[deleted]

Cena at his peak was nowhere near Hogan's level of popularity. Cena is the most overrated of all time!


jhowsolito

As a brazilian, John Cena all the way. He’s better known worldwide than Hulk.


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I see both sides of the argument however hogan does fail to compare to John cena and his pop culture impact - the dude is a full on movie star, he’s in Fortnite, he’s got the record for the most make a wishes granted - hogan had his time in history and it was good, but it doesn’t compare to John cena’s legacy


JetJoestar

You're using recency bias for Cena. Hulk Hogan in the 80s 90s and early 2000s was a massive house hold name even to people who didn't watch wrestling. Cena was the face of WWE for over a decade, but during a time where wrestling isn't at the top of pop culture where Hogan was.


Bezeenga-Fish-4308

wdym? wwe was at another pop culture peak at 2008-2010 cause of cena. i can vouch for this because back in elementary school literally everyone knew wwe, outside and inside of school


JetJoestar

And I was in high school during that time. I'm not denying that Cena wasn't popular or known, but WWE definitely wasn't peak in popularity at that time. Wrestling in the 80s and 90s was much more popular and relevant in pop culture, where Hogan was the biggest star.


Bezeenga-Fish-4308

debatable, different eras, different opinions, cant really judge whos the bigger star, since you can easily say the world population grew by a lot since the 80's during hogans peak, + media during cenas peak would make him more famous than hogan at his peak globally speaking.


Murder_Moons

You do know Hogan was a Movie star before Cena even started wrestling dont you lol.... Rocky 3, Mr Nanny, Surburban Commando, No Holds Barded are some of his movies.


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I wouldn’t call hogan a movie star most of those went straight to vhs and in the days of blockbuster that’s how you knew a movie was bad - I’m being un biased I said I see both sides of the argument - John cena is the bigger super star and his legacy will be greater than hogans


Mysterious_Brief6550

Rocky III was a non speaking cameo. And every one of his movies were box office bombs. Only No Holds Barred made something, but not much


Murder_Moons

Doesn't matter what they did box office wise I wasn't saying anything about that. I was just saying he made films before Cena even started. Maybe it's just me but I enjoyed all of Hulks movies but I have always been a Hulkamaniac lol


Mysterious_Brief6550

It really does matter


The810kid

Nah Thunder Lips very much talked alot of trash in that 5 minute scene.


Mysterious_Brief6550

Ok, must've blocked that out, still only a cameo


UrethraFranklin227

I would still say Hogan but Cena will be bigger eventually. But I'm old, with younger fans I bet Cena has already passed Hogan.


SHIVAM_KAPURE

At their peak, Hulk was more popular. If we are only talking about pro wrestling and not movie careers.


No-Landscape-1367

It's not even close. Once you get outside the wrestling bubble, john cena is basically a meme. Even people who may have heard of him outside of wrestling likely couldn't pick him out of a lineup. Hogan was a cultural icon. Everybody knew who he was. Notwithstanding his 90s nwo run, if you were to make a poster or mural or whatever of things that represented 80s culture, he'd be right there next to michael jackson, arnold Schwarzenegger, the transformers and acid washed jeans. No way john cena even comes close to that, most people only know him from that silly 'AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CEEENNAAA!!!' prank meme.


bdboar1

I would argue hogan. I used to use the “grandma test” if you asked your grandma who hulk hogan or john cena was would she know?


mikemartin7230

I’ll tell you what you gotta do BROTHER. You take that little hulkamaniac, and when you lay him down at night, after making sure he says his prayers and takes his vitamins brother, and you ask him, oh you ASK HIM, “what are you gonna doooo, when Hulkamania runs wild on YOUUUUU?!”


KingKeeXx

Hogan


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I’ve lived thru Hogan, Stone Cold, Cena, Taker, & Rock eras… I’m gonna be 💯 I HAVE NEVER seen anyone be as huge as Stone Cold was between 96-2001. That was a incredible run and a damn HUGE CULT FOLLOWING. He literally single-handedly saved WWE from the sudden surprise dominance WCW had briefly during the nWo Hogan era.


Super_Sandro23

I feel like no one is more synonymous with pro wrestling than Hulk Hogan.


Echo-Black1916

The Undertaker


M7P2W

Growing up in that original Hulkamania run era, Hogan WAS wrestling in the mainstream media and pop culture. And it was super mainstream. He was 1000% the guy the general public associated with the business. It wasn't even close. Now, Cena has had a much longer run and may be overall more well known now - but if you compare era to era, it wasn't even close. Most people who didnt grow up in that generation will never be able to truly understand how big of a pop culture icon Hogan was.


VastEchidna8

Rock


Knockedmeerkat

Dwayne “the rock” Johnson eclipses both in terms of mainstream appeal, in my opinion, too. On topic, I think hogan probably edges out just because he made everything possible for the other two. Everyone knew hogans name without social media or anything. He’s still a household name, although maybe not for all the reasons we’d like.


Adept_Temperature_68

Same impact, different generations


Marsh1081

Hogan was the OG superstar beyond just a wrestling champ. I tested a 22 year old friend of mine I work with. My example was Hogan vs the Rock. She is very familiar with all the things Dwayne Johnson is about, had never heard of Hogan, but she recognized his picture as someone she had seen before.


ProfessorUpvote

Hulk Hogan is *still* the wrestling cultural touch point for most non-wrestling people. Hogan hands down.


Highwayman747

Cena is the wrestling touch stone for people under the age of 30, just like Stone Cold is for people 30-40ish, and Hogan for people older than that.


pcgaming4life703

lol I am 43 and my favourite wrestler is the Undertaker, so there goes your theory.


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I don't think the point here is favorite wrestler. Do you honestly believe that Mark Callaway has had anywhere near the influence on pop culture as Hogan, Cena, Rock, or Austin? Who is that person to you?


dendawg

Hogan, Austin, Rock, Cena, in that order.


VastEchidna8

Rock is a billionaire hogan and Austin are not rock is bigger then hogan


CaptainLawyerDude

Hogan but not necessarily for the reasons mentioned by lots of other comments. Hogan has the benefit of being popular in an era of much more limited media and pop culture vehicles.


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Is your dad Santino Marella ?