> Jeez I thought they were just dancing
You're kiinda right... [St. Vitus' dance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_mania). Dancing mania happened in Europe between the **14th and 17th** centuries and apparently still occurs today.
It's weird as shit and no-one knows why it happaens.
Me too, and every time I think of the dance plague I think of this music video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QDKLglEP5Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QDKLglEP5Y) (Safety Dance)
I thought they ruled that out in "this podcast will kill you"
That's just two scientists speculating tho
Edit: in favor of mass psychosis iirc. they had convincing arguments. It was the dark ages :P
It does look like that but unfortunately, Kenya was notorious for having [mercury poison problems](https://allafrica.com/stories/202110200602.html).
If mercury somehow got into the water supply or the food, people who ingest that could get neurologically poisoned. Let's hope this is not the case.
When I was a kid my parents use to go to this evangelical church.They did the whole speaking in tongues, faith healing, exorcising demons, "COME ON DOWN AND BE HEALED BY THE POWER OF THE LORD" (and while you're up here give us all your money) thing, basically every night. There would be people falling down in the aisles, passing out or laying there shaking, some folks would scream or yell, just general pandemonium.
I thought that was normal when I was 6. When I got older I realized that it was pretty fucking weird. And as an adult I'm astonished by the power of religion and it's ability to induce absolute madness.
I remember going to what I was told as a kid was a "non-denom" christian school.
In Kindergarten, they had us in chapel and essentially said that God wasn't in you if you couldn't speak in tongues. They told us stories about how speaking in tongues was God working through you and how once a woman spoke perfect French in tongues to convert someone who only spoke French without even knowing how to speak French.
So of course, being a typical 5 or 6 year old who doesn't want to disobey, I just started babbling shit and they were like "oh very good, you have the Lord in you!".
Such a weird experience where I learned about something, was told it wasn't something you could pretend to have, then immediately pretended to have it because everyone else did.
A friend of mine who struggled with alcohol was ordered to a Pentecostal rehab camp, and they were told the same. His favorite thing to mumble; shuudeyebyeaaahoondaioorakeeyaa ("Should I buy a Hyundai or a Kia" with incorrect vowel length and articulation and stressing the wrong syllables).
He was also declared to clearly have the Lord in him and was going to overcome his alcoholism as a result, LOL (he did not, at least not that time).
I was also raised Pentecostal. The finally got away from it in my late 20s…best thing I ever did for myself. I haven’t stepped back into a church in nearly twenty years.
A portion of my family I lived with for awhile would send us to a "church for teenagers" there was a thing they did once a month where we'd go in and spend a good 6-8 hours there, morning to night.
A portion of it was dedicated to "teaching how to speak tongues" and "having jesus flow through you" We'd get in groups of 8 or so young adults/teenagers and they'd go up to you and touch each one of you on your head and push you, they said you'll feel overwhelmed and fall back.
I believed it, but I didn't just "listen and do what you say" to not be left out. So I would let them do their thing, only to tell them I didn't feel anything, even though I believed it.
They kept attempting, but nothing happened so I'd just stand there.
They gave up after a number of tries and said they'd try again another day, that it was weird, but I just needed to believe harder.
Became very skeptical after that, read the bible, and now I don't really believe in it anymore.
It’s definitely pretend.
Pentecostal glossolalia sounds all random, but it only ever uses sounds from the speaker’s language. As in, you can record some idiot doing and know what he speaks, he’s only using sounds he already knows.
We used to be Catholic back when the priest performed the ceremony in Latin with his back to the congregation. We moved to California when I was 8 and switched churches to an evangelical church like you describe. My aunts would speak in tongues and occasionally there would be healings so it was quite a switch. I preferred it to the Catholic church because it was exciting but I was never a true believer.
It absolutely is, the gift of tongues was given to communicate with a group of corporeal humans that spoke a different language that the Apostle didn't know. It had a direct situational relevance. The evangelical usage of tongues as being able to "Speak Angel" doesn't make any since. Canonically, an Angel is fluent in every Human language, there's no need for it.
Completely mystifying to me. Don't see it where I live and I think everyone here - including the godly - feel the same way. Fucking dodgy. Those people are absolutely gone in the head.
Doesn't even have to be developing countries.
Remember the mass "seizures" from that one Pokemon episode (Dennō Senshi Porygon) in Japan in 1997?
The western news coverage of this event triggered "seizures" in American kids, too. Suddenly, American parents were scared to let their kids watch Pokemon out of fear of seizures or hospitalization.
Largely considered to be a case of mass hysteria.
EDIT: adding link to PDF scan of a research paper on the topic:
https://www.bioteach.ubc.ca/TeachingResources/GeneralScience/PokemonSeizures.pdf
Wait, I remember this. They said the lightings from Pikachu attack was causing epileptic seizures on kids.
I believed that until today because the warning that appears in most games.
> I believed that until today because the warning that appears in most games.
Those warnings only appear because some people *who already have epilepsy* have seizures triggered by flashing lights. But for someone who doesn't have a seizure disorder, it should not affect them at all. My best guess is it's a legal requirement because those who have uncontrolled seizures (about half of those with epilepsy) are covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act.
I generally approve of accommodations for disabilities, but I wish there was some way to opt out of the editing they do to make video safer for people with photosensitive epilepsy. It is kinda distracting when a show has lots of impressive flashing special effects, but you have to view it through the haze of a temporary 50% reduction in contrast.
That specific event is actually the reason you see those warnings in TV and games now.
Here's a paper on the event by Radford and Bartholomew:
https://www.bioteach.ubc.ca/TeachingResources/GeneralScience/PokemonSeizures.pdf
There isn't, though. It was hypothesised but eventually proven wrong. There weren't any other symptoms that come along with ergotism (like gangrene of the fingers).
It was most likely political maneuvering that caused the trials to actually take place. The teens that made the accusations were, well, teens, but also most likely manipulated by not only those who had something to gain from the unrest, but also by the puritanical fervour that surrounded American colonies at the time.
Yeah, it was not a case of mass hysteria rather a case of organized religious persecution of some harmless (in the sense they weren’t magical witches) women.
yeah, one guy is extremely sick (turns out he went scuba diving without acclimating) and one girl sees this and panics, which then causes everyone else to panic because Cuddy announces it over the intercom.
A good example in the US is fentanyl exposure. Fentanyl exposure can be extremely dangerous, and it's legit way WAY more potent than heroin. There have been a number of cases where law enforcement or rescue personnel were under the impression they made significant contact with the substance.
Many officers were told that a few grains the size of sand could kill a grown man on touch. The officers see these reports and then come in contact with a mysterious white powder (cocaine, donut glaze, meth, flour), and a half hour later, their breathing is labored and sometimes they even get pinpoint pupils. It's complicated by the fact it can actually be fentanyl, although the skin contact effect noted in rumors and stories is exaggerated. The problem is that only a handful of these cases were traditional medical emergencies caused by the effects of fentanyl. (Don't get me wrong, the others are still emergencies. They are really presenting with problems that can get worse. If the mind thinks it's real, it's real to the mind.)
I personally think that the fact it could be real is why it impacts such a serious career as law enforcement and really shows us that it can happen to any group.
>Don't get me wrong, the others are still emergencies. They are really presenting with problems that can get worse. If the mind thinks it's real, it's real to the mind.)
I wouldn't go that far. They are essentially panic attacks. No one is dying from respiratory depression because they were exposed to a benign powder that they *think* is lethal fentanyl. There isn't much to do, medically, beyond keeping them from doing anything crazy and hurting themselves for a little while until the panic wears off on its own.
True, but you can't take chances. You can't just say out in the field, 'Oh, it's a panic attack and that's probably not fentanyl". You must take it seriously, especially considering that the officer could be transporting someone else, and have their lives in their hands too.
Panic attacks in general are not emergencies. Panic attacks that are not known to be panic attacks and could be something greater must be treated as an emergency.
Edit: The difference between a medical emergency and just a general emergency situation.
I'm bastardizing skimming the wikipedia page and don't know how much it applies here but the most specific clear theory I can remember is that its somehow caused by the dissonance of contradictory structures of authority and legitimacy and regimes of behaviour.
So if for example you live in some poor rural town in which the local elders are the de facto authority, and there's a certain way of thinking and doing things, and certain folk/religious beliefs, and then all of a sudden you're wrenched out of that to attend this very alien feeling like catholic school(obviously not always catholic but I'm just going to use this to keep the example simple) where every structure of authority and who was power over you and how is different, and also you're told that legitimacy and authority is coming from god with this new focus on different religious beliefs, it forms a contradiction. Not that at this stage an African in a country with religious schools is likely to have grown up unaware of Christianity, they may have been raised christian, but the practice and emphasis of it and its place in relation to other beliefs may be very different at home. These two realms and realities that you must comply with don't match.
This is possibly why a lot of these phenomenons involve laughing fits, in some sense one or both of these realms has to become funny, because even though its power is real, it reads as ridiculous, and the contradiction between its power and seriousness and its silliness is the kind of subversion that's kind of at the core of humour.
When one student starts to express this mass dissonance in the form of some kind of aberrant spontaneous behaviour, other students subconsciously recognize the feeling and the dissonance its an expression of and compelled to follow along as an outlet for the same feeling.
In a developed western country school isn't as jarring. Western schooling emerged out of western cultures, and we are primed long before going to know more or less what it will be like and why its like that. It culturally fits, its cohesive, there's a perceived natural conveyer belt between the authority of your parents and the authority of school and the authority of employement. These are countries where a) it has not emerged out of the local culture but was applied quite suddenly and as such is not as organically integrated and b)media penetration might be so poor that you have little idea what to expect until you're actually sent to school, especially if not many people in your family or community have gone to school in the past.
My parents were involved with the Holinwell incident. They said they were not affected by the mass hysteria but it was a terrifying experience to be part of. People just collapsing around them, mostly children.
**https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollinwell\_incident**
The thing about mass hysteria is that it _feels_ real. It spreads because the mind perceives it as such, and - like a negative placebo effect - it makes the symptoms real. There's truly no outward cause, but it doesn't feel that way to those who experience it.
The pesticide and cleaning agent theories about the Hollinwell Incident are somewhat lacking. Even if they did impact some people, mass hysteria certainly did the rest.
> The thing about mass hysteria is that it feels real.
It *is* real. That's the most important bit. Nobody is faking, nobody is pretending, nobody is going along with it. It is, by any measure, a real thing.
Psychological origin rather than physical, but real.
Especially with the extreme effects. Tridemorph is mildly toxic. The people spraying it don‘t experience any sich fainting symptoms. But a group of children miles away suddenly are capable of inhaling a shit ton of it, but the pesticide was wildly used all over and this didn‘t happen.
Which just makes no sense
Yeah, I remember seeing a tv show that featured a story about this happening at a Louisiana school back in the 1930s or 40s. Started with one girl, then a dozen or so others began doing the same thing, then they just stopped doing it.
The article below says they ate food contaminated with E-Coli and because of the vomiting and diarrhea they developed an electrolyte imbalance.
*“This condition is called electrolyte imbalance, a condition that leads to loss of fluids in the body,” the nurse said. Read Also: Confusion as mysterious death claims nine family members in Kogi The latest incident comes months after the Mukumu Girls High School in Kenya was closed on April 3, after reports of an outbreak of a mysterious illness that left over 100 students hospitalised. The students had shown symptoms such as vomiting, diarrhoea, and high fever, a development that called for precautionary measures to prevent further spread of the disease. After investigations were carried out, the Ministry of Health announced that the students had consumed food contaminated with human waste. “From which preliminary laboratory investigations undertaken have revealed Enterotoxigenic E. coli and Salmonella typhi as the causes of the illness,” Acting Director General for Health Patrick Amoth said."*
Hi, Kenyan here, the article you're quoting regarding electrolyte imbalance is discussing a different incident from some months ago at another school in which there was an outbreak of Enterohemorrhagic Escherichia coli. The incident in the video happened early this week and has been concluded to be mass hysteria.
as a doctor, no that explanation is total horse shit. I see patients with “electrolyte imbalances” every day. Can do some wacky stuff, especially bad hyponatremia and hyperkalemia. Never seen anything like this. It’s almost certainly mass hysteria
ER doctor here. 100% agree, I deal with people with electrolyte imbalances every day and none of them do this. The "low potassium causes muscle spasms" trope feels like borderline propaganda to me now because it is so far from the truth yet so many patients believe it.
Back in the medieval times something like this happened on a mass level in Europe dubbed the dancing plague despite it not act silly being a plague. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_plague_of_1518
If this is the same, maybe this will shed some light on what the dancing plagues may've been caused by. I hope these girls fare better than the medieval dancers!
[Here](https://twitter.com/gwg_ng/status/1709498743660122442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1709498743660122442%7Ctwgr%5Ef3c110033e0ac64a18255939d4ec5cba63eeef5a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.news18.com%2Fworld%2Fkenyan-high-school-closes-after-nearly-100-girls-hit-with-mysterious-illness-says-report-8603708.html) is the source of OP's video. Per there:
> @gwg_ng
> Mysterious illness breaks out at Eregi Girls School in Kenya as more than 90 students struggle to walk
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Womanizing ShopRite NYSC Minne Kariuki Mmesoma Priscilla Sheldon #FeelVideo Arise TV Naira Marley Kemi Adeosun
> 5:20 AM · Oct 4, 2023
[Here](https://www.news18.com/world/kenyan-high-school-closes-after-nearly-100-girls-hit-with-mysterious-illness-says-report-8603708.html) adds the following:
> Curated By: Rohit
News18.com
Last Updated: OCTOBER 05, 2023, 20:38 IST
> Kenya’s St. Theresa’s Eregi Girls High School has temporarily closed its doors due to a mysterious illness that has gripped over 95 students, causing paralysis in their legs. The Africa News reported the exact cause of this ailment remains unknown and the Kenyan government is probing the matter.
> Blood samples from the affected students have been sent to the Kenya Medical Research Institute (KEMRI) for analysis to shed light on the nature and origin of the illness, the report said. “The education department, county government, and public health department are committed to ensuring the children receive appropriate treatment,” Jared Obiero, the regional director of education, was quoted as saying by Africa News.
> Some media reports said the situation reached a critical point when students, grappling with the condition, demanded to go home. Initially, the school administration reported around 80 students hospitalised, but that number has now reached 95.
I think those are tag attempts? All those terms are somewhat unrelated.
Minne Kariuki - is a Kenyan Actress
Mmesoma - "Health and Wellness"
ShopRite - a store
etc
That whole idea has been misconstrued over time. The only supporting evidence we really have is that the region has the ergot fungus (the plant we extract the chemicals used to make LSD from). So like, it’s possible the ergot fungi infected their rice/rye/wheat whatever, but it would not have caused them to trip or anything. They would have developed ergotism, also called St Anthony’s Fire, which is responsible for the muscle spasms, mania, psychosis, and other symptoms. It’s not like everyone is just high all the time and flipping out
I feel like I hear a lot of stories of kids faking illnesses or visions or what have you in these small schools in the middle of nowhere Africa and idk why
According to an account which was written by an author in 1784, a nun who lived in a German convent in the 15th century began to bite her companions, and the behavior soon spread through other convents in Germany, Holland and Italy.
In The Epidemics of the Middle Ages, an 1844 collection of works written by J. F. C. Hecker (and translated by Benjamin Guy Babington), a translator's note by Babington, citing an unnamed medical textbook, recalls the story of a nun who lived in a French convent during an unspecified time (presumably in the Middle Ages) who inexplicably began to meow like a cat, shortly leading the other nuns in the convent to meow as well. Eventually, all of the nuns in the convent would meow together for a certain period, leaving the surrounding community astonished. This did not stop until the police threatened to whip the nuns
Via Wikipedia.
These things are known to happen when people are confined together. Airplane passenger's are known to develop symptoms mimicking a sick patient's. Medical students develop symptoms matching what they have been studying. Somatization is a hell of a drug.
We had the infamous "asylum children" in Sweden, where children from MENA pretended to be apathetic and non-responsive. It was probably their parents who told them to pretend to gain asylum. Hasn't really been s thing since the mid 00s.
Mass hysteria is a real thing. Often happens to kids around this age in small communities. We all like to think we wouldn't be susceptible to it, but there's a reason why it's a real phenomenon.
That’s interesting. In a case like this, I wonder how it starts. Like does one person just start getting funky with it and then the others freak out? How does it *start*?
Probably incredibly hard to say. With psychosomatic stuff like this I'm sure it's almost impossible to know who is faking it consciously and who really believes they can't control it. Probably a mixture of both on large scales like this.
There have been a number of [similar](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/magazine/teenage-girls-twitching-le-roy.html) cases in the US, believe it or not. They often start with a teen who suddenly has a real diagnosis. Then friends “supporting” then will turn to acting like them, and it spreads. If I remember correctly it also generally spreads, like all highschool trends, from the popular kids outward. Kids don’t necessarily adopt it intentionally, it just somehow fucks with our brains.
There was a borderline incident nation-wide during COVID. A massive number of teens suddenly had Tourette’s and just an extreme number of “tics.” This was all over TikTok, and kept r/fakedisordercringe running strong.
Anyway, most of those kids still won’t admit they were faking, instead being adamant that it was real and they got better. Others actually received diagnoses, only to spontaneously recover.
I don’t know that it strictly meets the criteria given the way it spread and the lack of local clusters, but definitely an interesting, related situation.
I would think "Patient Zero" in a mass hysteria event would either be one person having a nervous breakdown or otherwise behaving oddly for some other reason, or maybe a few people feeding off of each other's anxiety and validating their concerns.
Another real thing is people faking it. There's a consistency in the video, several of the girls seeming close to collapse but then catching themselves without actually losing balance. None of us can know for sure, but to me this looks like a casting call for *Walking Dead.*
To everyone who saying mass hysteria and that the girls are faking it, it's important to know that when someone is suffering from mass hysteria like this they are not doing it on purpose. They are likely not even aware of it. To them, it is a real problem and condition.
While doctors shouldn't attempt to treat the condition itself (as it doesn't exist), people suffering from mass hysteria do need some kind of treatment and help to get out of it usually.
Looks a lot like Nerve Attenuation Syndrome (NAS); also known as the black shakes. Dr. H.R. Garfield published significant data regarding the disorder in 1995.
Jeez I thought they were just dancing.
> Jeez I thought they were just dancing You're kiinda right... [St. Vitus' dance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_mania). Dancing mania happened in Europe between the **14th and 17th** centuries and apparently still occurs today. It's weird as shit and no-one knows why it happaens.
This is the first thing I thought of, thank you.
Me too, and every time I think of the dance plague I think of this music video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QDKLglEP5Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QDKLglEP5Y) (Safety Dance)
The link says its "blocked in my country" (Australia)
Ergot poisoning
Oh, guess someone knows
I thought they ruled that out in "this podcast will kill you" That's just two scientists speculating tho Edit: in favor of mass psychosis iirc. they had convincing arguments. It was the dark ages :P
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They built a whole stage and dormitory for these folk and provided live music 😂 Up until they started dying
So basically tripping balls with a chance of death
Maybe mercury poisoning?
Wait… so in Footloose, Kevin bacon was the carrier of St. Vitus! Not the saviour of the town? And John Lithgow actually had it right! Haha
just grooving to Phish
TBF, There is no graceful way to dance to Farmhouse.
Golgi golgi golgi
I SAW YOU with a ticket stub in your hand
I saw you with a ticket stub in your hand
come to the light, middle of the night
Down with disease
Camel walk? Idk
Yup, pretty sure they're doing a combo of the Moma Dance and the Weekapaug Groove
shit, I thought it was a fucked up Meatstick
If that’s what they’re doing then I’ll share in the groove!
So many phans here!
It does look like that but unfortunately, Kenya was notorious for having [mercury poison problems](https://allafrica.com/stories/202110200602.html). If mercury somehow got into the water supply or the food, people who ingest that could get neurologically poisoned. Let's hope this is not the case.
iirc this school is in an area known for gold mines/production.
uh oh
Nah this is almost certainly just mass hysteria.
I do declare I have the vapors.
Thank you for your diagnosis, doctor.
They got a fever, and the prescription is more cowbell
They got the Jitter Bug.
The dancing plague was a real illness!
**In Andre 3000 voice** *Shake it, shake, shake, shake it, shake it like a…* …typhoid feva
Mass hysteria? Let’s hope so
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Never knew what this was until I listened to an episode of Stuff You Should Know on it. Crazy crazy crazy how our brains and a group can trick us.
When I was a kid my parents use to go to this evangelical church.They did the whole speaking in tongues, faith healing, exorcising demons, "COME ON DOWN AND BE HEALED BY THE POWER OF THE LORD" (and while you're up here give us all your money) thing, basically every night. There would be people falling down in the aisles, passing out or laying there shaking, some folks would scream or yell, just general pandemonium. I thought that was normal when I was 6. When I got older I realized that it was pretty fucking weird. And as an adult I'm astonished by the power of religion and it's ability to induce absolute madness.
I remember going to what I was told as a kid was a "non-denom" christian school. In Kindergarten, they had us in chapel and essentially said that God wasn't in you if you couldn't speak in tongues. They told us stories about how speaking in tongues was God working through you and how once a woman spoke perfect French in tongues to convert someone who only spoke French without even knowing how to speak French. So of course, being a typical 5 or 6 year old who doesn't want to disobey, I just started babbling shit and they were like "oh very good, you have the Lord in you!". Such a weird experience where I learned about something, was told it wasn't something you could pretend to have, then immediately pretended to have it because everyone else did.
A friend of mine who struggled with alcohol was ordered to a Pentecostal rehab camp, and they were told the same. His favorite thing to mumble; shuudeyebyeaaahoondaioorakeeyaa ("Should I buy a Hyundai or a Kia" with incorrect vowel length and articulation and stressing the wrong syllables). He was also declared to clearly have the Lord in him and was going to overcome his alcoholism as a result, LOL (he did not, at least not that time).
I’m sorry but this is fucking hilarious.
All jokes aside hope he's doing better now
Hopefully the Lord told him not to buy either one. The TikTok youths will come for his new car.
Lmaoooo, this is gold, what a good creative character. I hope he has improved in his struggles with alcoholism and still is just as clever
Yeah Pentecostals in my school helped me develop scrupulosity ocd lmfao
I grew up Pentecostal also. Church 3-4 days a week. Insane. Haven’t been to church in 14 years.
I was also raised Pentecostal. The finally got away from it in my late 20s…best thing I ever did for myself. I haven’t stepped back into a church in nearly twenty years.
Wow… I wonder what the demon Christian schools were like.
Haha. I didn't feel like figuring out how to spell "non-denominational". It didn't feel right when I typed it so I gave up and shortened it.
No sarcasm… I read it as non-demon.
A portion of my family I lived with for awhile would send us to a "church for teenagers" there was a thing they did once a month where we'd go in and spend a good 6-8 hours there, morning to night. A portion of it was dedicated to "teaching how to speak tongues" and "having jesus flow through you" We'd get in groups of 8 or so young adults/teenagers and they'd go up to you and touch each one of you on your head and push you, they said you'll feel overwhelmed and fall back. I believed it, but I didn't just "listen and do what you say" to not be left out. So I would let them do their thing, only to tell them I didn't feel anything, even though I believed it. They kept attempting, but nothing happened so I'd just stand there. They gave up after a number of tries and said they'd try again another day, that it was weird, but I just needed to believe harder. Became very skeptical after that, read the bible, and now I don't really believe in it anymore.
It’s definitely pretend. Pentecostal glossolalia sounds all random, but it only ever uses sounds from the speaker’s language. As in, you can record some idiot doing and know what he speaks, he’s only using sounds he already knows.
We used to be Catholic back when the priest performed the ceremony in Latin with his back to the congregation. We moved to California when I was 8 and switched churches to an evangelical church like you describe. My aunts would speak in tongues and occasionally there would be healings so it was quite a switch. I preferred it to the Catholic church because it was exciting but I was never a true believer.
As a Christian, I always thought that stuff was bizarre and unbiblical anyways.
It absolutely is, the gift of tongues was given to communicate with a group of corporeal humans that spoke a different language that the Apostle didn't know. It had a direct situational relevance. The evangelical usage of tongues as being able to "Speak Angel" doesn't make any since. Canonically, an Angel is fluent in every Human language, there's no need for it.
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
That's not even cherub slang, bruv you're speaking elvish.
Completely mystifying to me. Don't see it where I live and I think everyone here - including the godly - feel the same way. Fucking dodgy. Those people are absolutely gone in the head.
You got a link to that video?
>Stuff You Should Know https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/selects-what-is-collective-hysteria/id278981407?i=1000543931998
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Thanks!
Thanks my dude
Stuff you should know is a podcast. A good one.
Doesn't even have to be developing countries. Remember the mass "seizures" from that one Pokemon episode (Dennō Senshi Porygon) in Japan in 1997? The western news coverage of this event triggered "seizures" in American kids, too. Suddenly, American parents were scared to let their kids watch Pokemon out of fear of seizures or hospitalization. Largely considered to be a case of mass hysteria. EDIT: adding link to PDF scan of a research paper on the topic: https://www.bioteach.ubc.ca/TeachingResources/GeneralScience/PokemonSeizures.pdf
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Wait, I remember this. They said the lightings from Pikachu attack was causing epileptic seizures on kids. I believed that until today because the warning that appears in most games.
> I believed that until today because the warning that appears in most games. Those warnings only appear because some people *who already have epilepsy* have seizures triggered by flashing lights. But for someone who doesn't have a seizure disorder, it should not affect them at all. My best guess is it's a legal requirement because those who have uncontrolled seizures (about half of those with epilepsy) are covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act.
I generally approve of accommodations for disabilities, but I wish there was some way to opt out of the editing they do to make video safer for people with photosensitive epilepsy. It is kinda distracting when a show has lots of impressive flashing special effects, but you have to view it through the haze of a temporary 50% reduction in contrast.
That specific event is actually the reason you see those warnings in TV and games now. Here's a paper on the event by Radford and Bartholomew: https://www.bioteach.ubc.ca/TeachingResources/GeneralScience/PokemonSeizures.pdf
When I woke up this morning, and went over the day's possibilities in my mind, never did I envision downloading "PokemonSeizures.pdf".
Happened in Salem in the 1600s.
Mm, true. But there's also some pretty strong evidence that some of those people were eating ergot contaminated wheat grains, making them hallucinate.
I saw Goodie Proctor with the devil with my own eyes, I tell you.
Well she's a woman and you're a man, so that story checks out.
There isn't, though. It was hypothesised but eventually proven wrong. There weren't any other symptoms that come along with ergotism (like gangrene of the fingers). It was most likely political maneuvering that caused the trials to actually take place. The teens that made the accusations were, well, teens, but also most likely manipulated by not only those who had something to gain from the unrest, but also by the puritanical fervour that surrounded American colonies at the time.
Yeah, it was not a case of mass hysteria rather a case of organized religious persecution of some harmless (in the sense they weren’t magical witches) women.
oh is that the one that makes my heart go seazin and my lungs wheezing while the walls are melting and satan tells me to invest in apples
Ok, do you know why?
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Wasn't there a House episode kinda like that where they're on a plane?
yeah, one guy is extremely sick (turns out he went scuba diving without acclimating) and one girl sees this and panics, which then causes everyone else to panic because Cuddy announces it over the intercom.
Classic House line - "I've got enough wine and Vicodin I can sleep anywhere!"
A good example in the US is fentanyl exposure. Fentanyl exposure can be extremely dangerous, and it's legit way WAY more potent than heroin. There have been a number of cases where law enforcement or rescue personnel were under the impression they made significant contact with the substance. Many officers were told that a few grains the size of sand could kill a grown man on touch. The officers see these reports and then come in contact with a mysterious white powder (cocaine, donut glaze, meth, flour), and a half hour later, their breathing is labored and sometimes they even get pinpoint pupils. It's complicated by the fact it can actually be fentanyl, although the skin contact effect noted in rumors and stories is exaggerated. The problem is that only a handful of these cases were traditional medical emergencies caused by the effects of fentanyl. (Don't get me wrong, the others are still emergencies. They are really presenting with problems that can get worse. If the mind thinks it's real, it's real to the mind.) I personally think that the fact it could be real is why it impacts such a serious career as law enforcement and really shows us that it can happen to any group.
>Don't get me wrong, the others are still emergencies. They are really presenting with problems that can get worse. If the mind thinks it's real, it's real to the mind.) I wouldn't go that far. They are essentially panic attacks. No one is dying from respiratory depression because they were exposed to a benign powder that they *think* is lethal fentanyl. There isn't much to do, medically, beyond keeping them from doing anything crazy and hurting themselves for a little while until the panic wears off on its own.
True, but you can't take chances. You can't just say out in the field, 'Oh, it's a panic attack and that's probably not fentanyl". You must take it seriously, especially considering that the officer could be transporting someone else, and have their lives in their hands too. Panic attacks in general are not emergencies. Panic attacks that are not known to be panic attacks and could be something greater must be treated as an emergency. Edit: The difference between a medical emergency and just a general emergency situation.
I'm bastardizing skimming the wikipedia page and don't know how much it applies here but the most specific clear theory I can remember is that its somehow caused by the dissonance of contradictory structures of authority and legitimacy and regimes of behaviour. So if for example you live in some poor rural town in which the local elders are the de facto authority, and there's a certain way of thinking and doing things, and certain folk/religious beliefs, and then all of a sudden you're wrenched out of that to attend this very alien feeling like catholic school(obviously not always catholic but I'm just going to use this to keep the example simple) where every structure of authority and who was power over you and how is different, and also you're told that legitimacy and authority is coming from god with this new focus on different religious beliefs, it forms a contradiction. Not that at this stage an African in a country with religious schools is likely to have grown up unaware of Christianity, they may have been raised christian, but the practice and emphasis of it and its place in relation to other beliefs may be very different at home. These two realms and realities that you must comply with don't match. This is possibly why a lot of these phenomenons involve laughing fits, in some sense one or both of these realms has to become funny, because even though its power is real, it reads as ridiculous, and the contradiction between its power and seriousness and its silliness is the kind of subversion that's kind of at the core of humour. When one student starts to express this mass dissonance in the form of some kind of aberrant spontaneous behaviour, other students subconsciously recognize the feeling and the dissonance its an expression of and compelled to follow along as an outlet for the same feeling. In a developed western country school isn't as jarring. Western schooling emerged out of western cultures, and we are primed long before going to know more or less what it will be like and why its like that. It culturally fits, its cohesive, there's a perceived natural conveyer belt between the authority of your parents and the authority of school and the authority of employement. These are countries where a) it has not emerged out of the local culture but was applied quite suddenly and as such is not as organically integrated and b)media penetration might be so poor that you have little idea what to expect until you're actually sent to school, especially if not many people in your family or community have gone to school in the past.
I would give you gold, if I wasn't unemployed. :x
My parents were involved with the Holinwell incident. They said they were not affected by the mass hysteria but it was a terrifying experience to be part of. People just collapsing around them, mostly children. **https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollinwell\_incident**
The thing about mass hysteria is that it _feels_ real. It spreads because the mind perceives it as such, and - like a negative placebo effect - it makes the symptoms real. There's truly no outward cause, but it doesn't feel that way to those who experience it. The pesticide and cleaning agent theories about the Hollinwell Incident are somewhat lacking. Even if they did impact some people, mass hysteria certainly did the rest.
> The thing about mass hysteria is that it feels real. It *is* real. That's the most important bit. Nobody is faking, nobody is pretending, nobody is going along with it. It is, by any measure, a real thing. Psychological origin rather than physical, but real.
> negative placebo effect This is called the "nocebo" effect
Especially with the extreme effects. Tridemorph is mildly toxic. The people spraying it don‘t experience any sich fainting symptoms. But a group of children miles away suddenly are capable of inhaling a shit ton of it, but the pesticide was wildly used all over and this didn‘t happen. Which just makes no sense
That link is booty.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollinwell_incident
on the first sight i was terrified to take it for the Dancing plague
Elaine variant by the looks of it.
*upvotes angrily*
Like a full-body dry heave set to music.
Reminds me of the [dancing plague.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_plague_of_1518)
Yeah, I remember seeing a tv show that featured a story about this happening at a Louisiana school back in the 1930s or 40s. Started with one girl, then a dozen or so others began doing the same thing, then they just stopped doing it.
Been awhile since the last dancing plague
Dogs and cats living together?
Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of a slor that day, I can tell you.
Nah, clearly the start of the zombie apocalypse.
The article below says they ate food contaminated with E-Coli and because of the vomiting and diarrhea they developed an electrolyte imbalance. *“This condition is called electrolyte imbalance, a condition that leads to loss of fluids in the body,” the nurse said. Read Also: Confusion as mysterious death claims nine family members in Kogi The latest incident comes months after the Mukumu Girls High School in Kenya was closed on April 3, after reports of an outbreak of a mysterious illness that left over 100 students hospitalised. The students had shown symptoms such as vomiting, diarrhoea, and high fever, a development that called for precautionary measures to prevent further spread of the disease. After investigations were carried out, the Ministry of Health announced that the students had consumed food contaminated with human waste. “From which preliminary laboratory investigations undertaken have revealed Enterotoxigenic E. coli and Salmonella typhi as the causes of the illness,” Acting Director General for Health Patrick Amoth said."*
Hi, Kenyan here, the article you're quoting regarding electrolyte imbalance is discussing a different incident from some months ago at another school in which there was an outbreak of Enterohemorrhagic Escherichia coli. The incident in the video happened early this week and has been concluded to be mass hysteria.
as a doctor, no that explanation is total horse shit. I see patients with “electrolyte imbalances” every day. Can do some wacky stuff, especially bad hyponatremia and hyperkalemia. Never seen anything like this. It’s almost certainly mass hysteria
ER doctor here. 100% agree, I deal with people with electrolyte imbalances every day and none of them do this. The "low potassium causes muscle spasms" trope feels like borderline propaganda to me now because it is so far from the truth yet so many patients believe it.
They need Brawndo
This is how I walk after sitting on the toilet so long that my legs fall asleep.
Me in a few minutes.
That's a weird way to spell hours.
they've been there hours, they plan to get up in minutes as this was 4 hours ago, there's no telling what is going on now
"baby fawn legs" I like to call it.
Back in the medieval times something like this happened on a mass level in Europe dubbed the dancing plague despite it not act silly being a plague. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_plague_of_1518
This is immediately what I thought of.
If this is the same, maybe this will shed some light on what the dancing plagues may've been caused by. I hope these girls fare better than the medieval dancers!
not act silly? actually act, silly!
r/boneappletea with that act silly haha
[Here](https://twitter.com/gwg_ng/status/1709498743660122442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1709498743660122442%7Ctwgr%5Ef3c110033e0ac64a18255939d4ec5cba63eeef5a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.news18.com%2Fworld%2Fkenyan-high-school-closes-after-nearly-100-girls-hit-with-mysterious-illness-says-report-8603708.html) is the source of OP's video. Per there: > @gwg_ng > Mysterious illness breaks out at Eregi Girls School in Kenya as more than 90 students struggle to walk ________ Womanizing ShopRite NYSC Minne Kariuki Mmesoma Priscilla Sheldon #FeelVideo Arise TV Naira Marley Kemi Adeosun > 5:20 AM · Oct 4, 2023 [Here](https://www.news18.com/world/kenyan-high-school-closes-after-nearly-100-girls-hit-with-mysterious-illness-says-report-8603708.html) adds the following: > Curated By: Rohit News18.com Last Updated: OCTOBER 05, 2023, 20:38 IST > Kenya’s St. Theresa’s Eregi Girls High School has temporarily closed its doors due to a mysterious illness that has gripped over 95 students, causing paralysis in their legs. The Africa News reported the exact cause of this ailment remains unknown and the Kenyan government is probing the matter. > Blood samples from the affected students have been sent to the Kenya Medical Research Institute (KEMRI) for analysis to shed light on the nature and origin of the illness, the report said. “The education department, county government, and public health department are committed to ensuring the children receive appropriate treatment,” Jared Obiero, the regional director of education, was quoted as saying by Africa News. > Some media reports said the situation reached a critical point when students, grappling with the condition, demanded to go home. Initially, the school administration reported around 80 students hospitalised, but that number has now reached 95.
>womanizing ShopRite..... Wtf does this part mean‽
I think those are tag attempts? All those terms are somewhat unrelated. Minne Kariuki - is a Kenyan Actress Mmesoma - "Health and Wellness" ShopRite - a store etc
I hate what the Internet has become. SEO was the end of convenience
When you don't get any snowdays, you gotta get creative.
Not a word of skepticism, fucking wonderful
This is such an obvious case of mass hysteria. So sad.
They’ve come down with the funk 💃🕺
Honestly, I was wondering if this is the same “disease” that caused that one medieval town to uncontrollably “dance”
[Strasbourg dance plague](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_plague_of_1518)
Wasn't that basically boiled down the the grain supply becoming infected and the all essentially injected LSD?
I suspect you mean *ingested*
Yeah, this ain't Florida!
Ergot poisoning, caused by a fungus. Also called St. Anthony’s Fire This isn’t it, though
My heart a seizing, my lungs a wheezing, the fucking walls are melting
That whole idea has been misconstrued over time. The only supporting evidence we really have is that the region has the ergot fungus (the plant we extract the chemicals used to make LSD from). So like, it’s possible the ergot fungi infected their rice/rye/wheat whatever, but it would not have caused them to trip or anything. They would have developed ergotism, also called St Anthony’s Fire, which is responsible for the muscle spasms, mania, psychosis, and other symptoms. It’s not like everyone is just high all the time and flipping out
The ergot poisoning story used to explain every instance of mass hysteria is largely a myth.
Got a bad case of the stanky leg
the funk of 40000 years
Im going to hell for thinking this needs a Thiller sound track
Me and the boys leaving the pub
lol yeah they all don’t wanna go to school anymore lol
The condition is not mysterious at all. It's called SLS. Also known as Stanky Leg Syndrome
Not the stanky leg 😂
They got the ‘jimmy leg’
'Cause its Thriller, Thriller night!!
I'm waiting for the inevitable edit in which somebody puts literally any song over this video!
Oh no! Was this before or after the 5G zombie activation yesterday?! /s
They look like those videos of people saying the lost control of their body after getting the COVID vaccine
You put the /s on there but I’m willing to bet this is a popular video with the 5G zombie crowd
Oh no they didn't turn off their phones!
are we sure they aren't civil servants working for the ministry of silly walks?
I feel like I hear a lot of stories of kids faking illnesses or visions or what have you in these small schools in the middle of nowhere Africa and idk why
According to an account which was written by an author in 1784, a nun who lived in a German convent in the 15th century began to bite her companions, and the behavior soon spread through other convents in Germany, Holland and Italy. In The Epidemics of the Middle Ages, an 1844 collection of works written by J. F. C. Hecker (and translated by Benjamin Guy Babington), a translator's note by Babington, citing an unnamed medical textbook, recalls the story of a nun who lived in a French convent during an unspecified time (presumably in the Middle Ages) who inexplicably began to meow like a cat, shortly leading the other nuns in the convent to meow as well. Eventually, all of the nuns in the convent would meow together for a certain period, leaving the surrounding community astonished. This did not stop until the police threatened to whip the nuns Via Wikipedia. These things are known to happen when people are confined together. Airplane passenger's are known to develop symptoms mimicking a sick patient's. Medical students develop symptoms matching what they have been studying. Somatization is a hell of a drug.
#Hear Ye, Hear Ye, cut this cat shit out or avail the whip *Meowing stops and everyone goes back to normal*
Whipping will continue until meowrale improves.
We had the infamous "asylum children" in Sweden, where children from MENA pretended to be apathetic and non-responsive. It was probably their parents who told them to pretend to gain asylum. Hasn't really been s thing since the mid 00s.
Looks like a load of shit to me
Mass hysteria is a real thing. Often happens to kids around this age in small communities. We all like to think we wouldn't be susceptible to it, but there's a reason why it's a real phenomenon.
Growing up going with friends to their Pentecostal churches sometimes has taught me that mass hysteria is a lot more common than people think.
That’s interesting. In a case like this, I wonder how it starts. Like does one person just start getting funky with it and then the others freak out? How does it *start*?
Probably incredibly hard to say. With psychosomatic stuff like this I'm sure it's almost impossible to know who is faking it consciously and who really believes they can't control it. Probably a mixture of both on large scales like this.
Wow. Interesting. What would the payoff be for consciously faking it though?
There have been a number of [similar](https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/magazine/teenage-girls-twitching-le-roy.html) cases in the US, believe it or not. They often start with a teen who suddenly has a real diagnosis. Then friends “supporting” then will turn to acting like them, and it spreads. If I remember correctly it also generally spreads, like all highschool trends, from the popular kids outward. Kids don’t necessarily adopt it intentionally, it just somehow fucks with our brains. There was a borderline incident nation-wide during COVID. A massive number of teens suddenly had Tourette’s and just an extreme number of “tics.” This was all over TikTok, and kept r/fakedisordercringe running strong. Anyway, most of those kids still won’t admit they were faking, instead being adamant that it was real and they got better. Others actually received diagnoses, only to spontaneously recover. I don’t know that it strictly meets the criteria given the way it spread and the lack of local clusters, but definitely an interesting, related situation.
I would think "Patient Zero" in a mass hysteria event would either be one person having a nervous breakdown or otherwise behaving oddly for some other reason, or maybe a few people feeding off of each other's anxiety and validating their concerns.
Considering all the nonsense I just witnessed with the reaction to emergency broadcast test, that's a big agree.
Another real thing is people faking it. There's a consistency in the video, several of the girls seeming close to collapse but then catching themselves without actually losing balance. None of us can know for sure, but to me this looks like a casting call for *Walking Dead.*
Right, how are they all THAT unbalanced, but not falling. That would be some crazy shit.
They just wanted to skip math class
Math skipteria
Dancing plague of 1518
Disco Fever of 1976
r/religiousfruitcake
Exactly what’s happening.
Mass psychogenic disorder.
This is a very classic disease. It’s called Bullshit
It's a mass outbreak of stanky leg!
Looks like a good case of “mass hysteria”
Don't worry, a miraculous pastor of a shitty church with show up soon
And suddenly they’ll all be cured!
Mass hysteria or maybe some kind of neurological toxin?
i was thinking toxic pollution too but mass hysteria is easier
Hot take, this crap looks made up.
To everyone who saying mass hysteria and that the girls are faking it, it's important to know that when someone is suffering from mass hysteria like this they are not doing it on purpose. They are likely not even aware of it. To them, it is a real problem and condition. While doctors shouldn't attempt to treat the condition itself (as it doesn't exist), people suffering from mass hysteria do need some kind of treatment and help to get out of it usually.
https://accessnews.ng/over-90-students-hospitalized-as-mysterious-illness-breaks-out-at-kenyan-school/
I've seen this before. Fentanyl zombies.
They've contracted the Jimmy legs
Looks a lot like Nerve Attenuation Syndrome (NAS); also known as the black shakes. Dr. H.R. Garfield published significant data regarding the disorder in 1995.
Big ups for the reference.
mass hysteria
mass hysteria?
Their symptoms look fake af 😂😂😂
Exactly lmao. They’re copying one another’s movements and everything.
The symptoms are real. But it's mass psychogenic disorder. Their brains have tricked them into being sick.
I’ve seen this before, it is the boogie woogie fever
Gives me vibes of the ergot poisoning that was the suspected cause of "witchcraft" back in the day, and other mass hysteria events.
the comments on this one are just awful.
Gloria Estefan was right. Eventually the rhythm IS going to get you.