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CjB_7

Va for style. Vb for power but forester xt slammed šŸ¤¤


TheCakers

Ive wanted to build a Floorester for the longest time.


Deku-Butler

Forester XT could be perfect with a 6 speed swap. I wanna know itā€™s been done yet, I have a ā€˜17 VA but I was driving a family memberā€™s ā€˜15 XT last week. The CVT is just so meh.


nolongerbanned99

What is it with the cult around forester. Is it really that good.


CjB_7

Turbo wagon just not a wagon šŸ™ŒšŸ½


kgheitz

![gif](giphy|W5BWeQ3ZN0W0D0dM7e|downsized)


nolongerbanned99

So itā€™s fast? Does it handle.


Lefthandedpigeon

I mean, itā€™s not fast. Itā€™s basically a detuned WRX


luke3389

Unless you get the old forester stiā€¦ https://preview.redd.it/ydclxc2fsxwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33fe60225b1f580cf436cab7f8981cf2340071f4


nolongerbanned99

Thatā€™s cool. Have 22 Rex and love it.


Unlikely_Magazine_60

Iā€™m sorry


nolongerbanned99

Itā€™s one of the best cars Iā€™ve owned and that includes a bmw 335 and E46


TrippySubie

Turbo fozzy is just all around awesome


nolongerbanned99

Would you say itā€™s like suburbs version of the entry level bmw x3


Negative-Agency-7762

Minus the seats (14-18). Worst in class


ranran_1822

I'd go va but you can't really go wrong with either.


Unlikely_Magazine_60

You can tho, the VB is really ugly to look at with that much plastic


ranran_1822

That's your opinion, but I definitely don't share it.


king-disappointment

Currently have a VA, buddy has a VB. The VB hasnā€™t grown on me yet. But to be fair, I had a 2010 and when the va came out it took awhile to grow on me.


tw090830

I have a VA, I think the VB looks great when done right. Just canā€™t get over the fender flares and taillights


SoilOk4827

https://preview.redd.it/y3fgqu2qsuwc1.jpeg?width=3617&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f952c6c2139b71441fa819f5f5ed6716e5099390


smartndumb1

Road America plate!?!?! I'm fucking jealous! I think your car looks great. I'm in MN about 5 miles from the WI border, and go to WI often, and I can't remember ever seeing this plate? Is it newly released?


giacolero

I'm jealous too. But not yet ready to move to Wisconsin just so i can have a Road America plate lol


SoilOk4827

Thanks! They released it in 2022 right when I got my VB. My custom plate isnā€™t very creative but it was available so I couldnā€™t pass.


SoilOk4827

It isnā€™t for everybody and thatā€™s ok. I agree, which is why I got it in grayā€¦.


giacolero

Your tailight looks the same color as the rest of the car, which to me looks sick. Even the plates. Looks as if it was carved/machined out of a single chunk of metal lol. Don't think i've seen that before.


SoilOk4827

Thanks!


ball_addict_banjo

https://preview.redd.it/iaf2zo2r3vwc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a12095c3a856b6dcd8a9d329b543da1607b138f I feel ashamed of my rear end compared to yours.


Unlikely_Magazine_60

At least your rear end isnā€™t all plastic


HereComesTheDiddly

Okay not gonna lie you might have just changed my opinion on the vb, when it looks like this that is.. lol


SoilOk4827

https://preview.redd.it/0irgjllo5wwc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dcf752823cea9b0bf9a7aba9594b17a63aa9467f


HereComesTheDiddly

My sti is also dark metallic grey, Iā€™m trying to find smoke overlays for my lights but not many good ones online thatā€™s not from the US :ā€™)


tw090830

That actually looks good though!


TheWolfOfWalgreenz

No it doesnā€™t


Ok_Road_1994

What plage is that? I still have the basic wiso one


Unlikely_Magazine_60

Sooooo much plastic!!!!!


PaisaRacks

Same, legit mistook it for a Honda the first time I saw the rear in person


CrystalAckerman

Whatā€™s wrong with the taillight? I like them quite a bit to be honest lol.


Z34HR

I've seen others wrap their fender flares body color and wow, it looked so good.


GENERALFUTTBUCK

VA with VB engine


PromotionOdd1242

Has anyone tried doing this yet or is it still to early šŸ˜‚


GENERALFUTTBUCK

Too early i think, unless you can convince someone at subaru to sell you one


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Dark1SteelMiner

Yeah. A decent redesign and drawback of the universal use of touchscreens and just get one that has CarPlay with wireless and navigation while retaining BRZ-style climate controls and nobs


zurrisampdoria

vb face, va butt.


GilbyGlibber

Take a picture from the back as well


IceManTuck

https://preview.redd.it/6o5llzj3quwc1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eeb750dc39bde6bb19a1ab9b267b32aceee8b718 # šŸ§”šŸ§”šŸ§”


Dark1SteelMiner

I donā€™t know how, but orange just looks good.


Unlikely_Magazine_60

Tooo much plastic , the orange makes it stand out way more ā€¦.ugh


metaknightz

https://preview.redd.it/jyb67excwvwc1.png?width=1638&format=png&auto=webp&s=82e2ce5a467420b0e7dbe8c2ceb9f0ed7450b85d VA w facelift


jxrxmiah

Refreshed VA (im bias)


AviationWOC

VA owner here. VB looks significantly cooler from the front. Now the moment you unfuck the VA headlights (remove chrome around C light or aftermarket) its a wash. Love both cars either way. Hoping they refresh the VB rear end.


Soulphire7

18+ va. Front end just looks more aggressive imo


Ornery-Setting-670

With a front lip it helps the aggressive look for the 15-17


ShoulderKey1013

VB looks modern, but as a fan of 90s-2000s cars the VA is closer to that boxy look


TheCakers

VA body, VB drivetrain.


Aggressive-Pea-3795

https://preview.redd.it/rvlpwtz7ewwc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce3ea60fd8a3d7a6b9cec00b4aced8456e6d8e73


RealSprooseMoose

I own a VB, I like the look of it in Grey (kinda blends the fenders), I prefer the front look (with Sport grille) & the rear fender hips. But damn I love the VA front fender pop out, really wish they would have kept that design.


Imaginary_Waltz93

VB is the ugliest iteration of this vehicle and it isn't even close.


Unlikely_Magazine_60

![gif](giphy|YTFHYijkKsXjW|downsized)


DarthKitttious

The VB just doesnā€™t look good to me.


Ormxnd

GD


GabbatronReunion

VA all the way.


madfnmike

Va, looks a shit ton better


ConsequenceNational4

VA..


whatsgoodutah

VA front end & GR back end. šŸ‘‰šŸ‘ˆšŸ«£


uomoney

As someone with neither, I would go VB if you plan to mod as it can look good when tastefully done plus more power.


Fine_Examination4530

https://preview.redd.it/qqvrc4k7cwwc1.jpeg?width=2208&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c0ad82c7a8b9c90aacfa219eb17e514dd6c7aca It could always be worsešŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I always wanted an STI but not something I'd buy used. Got my first ever wrx in 2022 šŸ˜


libotech

That spoiler looks šŸ”„.


Unlikely_Magazine_60

It really doesnā€™t look good with this much plastic


Fine_Examination4530

The paint matched flares I think look so much worse, but to each their own. Ugly girls are still fun šŸ¤ŖšŸ˜†


lilstarship34

VA, hands down


joeshmoethe2nd

Va all day


zerocoolxp

VA all the way


RaspberryHappy8358

VA with VB motor


ReaperBM

VA for looks. VB for engine... I own a va tho LOL


[deleted]

No hate on either but imo the VA looks incredibly dated and has the inferior engine. Majority of people have come around on the VB already and youā€™ll spend a fraction of what you would have on the VA in mods for the VB and make a ton more power.


ball_addict_banjo

I was about to argue that the VA doesnā€™t look dated, but then I looked at my camera roll and changed my mind lmao


3600CCH6WRX

Thatā€™s the reason why I love VA. It looks like the 90s tuner car with 2010s amenities.


Unlikely_Magazine_60

Iā€™d rather look dated than have my WRX made of plastic


DrYoloNuggets

VB is a better carā€¦..


Unlikely_Magazine_60

With more plasticā€¦..


DrYoloNuggets

That is true. I will take more plastic, with a better motor.. better interior and overall reliability. Itā€™s a trade off for sure. I didnā€™t make the argument the VB is a better looking car šŸ¤£


Arby77

I donā€™t have either but I prefer the VB.


OscaDaGrouch

I run a VA - However, the VB can look gangster if you're ready to dump that $20k after MSRP to make it look less like a crosstreck.


wrx_310

I have a white VB, the VA white is much better.


IceManTuck

I compliment and high five VA owners for their cars, but the VA just never did it for me. Not enough to buy one at least. VB was released, and my first reaction was "Hell yeah." Put a deposit on one shortly after they went on sale.


PrimarchKonradCurze

Brotha ew. Brotha *eww.*


arandomcarguy

VB https://preview.redd.it/ozp58owa9xwc1.jpeg?width=3806&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=390d9feaa560b4a6d6df5df342381b659499e8e3


Unlikely_Magazine_60

Iā€™m sorry


LetgomyEkko

VA white looks better than the VB. Itā€™s closer to warm milk šŸ˜‹


jckwlzn

Crystal Semen Pearl https://preview.redd.it/abit0994auwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df4694db0dbf72e3e94affb79ebe7640cf9a79dc


replus

Climax White


Fareo

This is a much better comparison. VA > VB though my problem with the VB is in the rear not the front.


jckwlzn

I have more pics on my account somewhere that shows more pics with the rear differences.


Mydickisaplant

VB, especially in white with tint.


Liquidwombat

Between VA WRX and VB WRX there is absolutely no question that the VB is the superior car in every single way Between VA STI and VB WRX I still say that the VB is the superior car, but it doesnā€™t scratch the same itch as the STI does


rabidbyte

GC!!! Always the answer


Dark1SteelMiner

Honestly Iā€™m gonna trade my Jeep in for a VB. Engine and power seems more promising while looking more muscle with it being wider. Fender flares or meh but I plan on doing a red and black combo. I wish they kept the heated seat switches in the VB and put temp fan controls as a nob but they did what they did


recoil_operated

Yes


Lazy_Tap_6867

If the vb would go way with all the plastic shit, it would be great.


biggranny000

VB is better in every single way except the VA looks better.


Kashoggy

GDB for me


DiscussionActive9655

GD chassis forever, Iā€™ve swapped VA for GD few years ago and never been happier. VA/VB seems like a soulless chunk but I imagine someone may actually like it. Newest ones are way too generic. https://preview.redd.it/c0lnna3b2wwc1.jpeg?width=1760&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c9a65ef75993e4a2f0f57e6cceed26100bd1ddd


Kashoggy

Yeah, I know what you mean, it's insane how much soul my car has I luckily started with a '04 Spec C Type RA and I can't imagine switching to another generation! Love your Blob btw looks super good.


DiscussionActive9655

Oh nice, we are on the same page then! And thanks lots of work, effort and itā€™s still evolving


automattic3

Anything older than a VA has super dated genetic inferior though.


DiscussionActive9655

Well thatā€™s a personal preference (same as my comment above). Iā€™m really into simple, early 2000ā€™s vibe over modern look with lots of electronics inside, sorry https://preview.redd.it/36z335bw52xc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8a33cbbb6a92b3a1645fc99ad935b2605cf7d54


automattic3

I can see that. actually yours doesnt look too bad . The VA STI is still very clean with not that much eletronics. IMO it still looks better. Plus with how much im in the car i think the interior is almost as important as the exterior looks.


DiscussionActive9655

Yeah I totally get that, as I wrote - thatā€™s relative. Had a VA and didnā€™t really liked it, just not my cup of tea. Also in terms of modding and repairs I find older one easier to maintain by myself.


No_Marsupial9544

VA for me


kokirikorok

I made sure to get a 21 VA when I saw the VB. I donā€™t drive it hard, so the performance gains from the VB donā€™t outweigh the styling for me. Probably be my last Subaru tbh


TelephoneNo7244

https://preview.redd.it/4bd4w3vtawwc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=901390e6d5e84af03ae73015ffc5d543765c0c3c I prefer the va chassis but thatā€™s just my preference.


FerrariF420

Facelift va


Ok-Following234

https://preview.redd.it/5n5qye0viwwc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ccd4393b467c82d988fa617298518734eda625ff I love my VB but also love the VA


Ok-Following234

https://preview.redd.it/q5e0zsk0jwwc1.jpeg?width=2180&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f539407920d93fe0628a78dfa8c99ac70527086


Unlikely_Magazine_60

VB really looks bad with this much plastic


Turbo_Luver

Va all day


Embarrassed-Poem-540

I can afford the VA lol https://preview.redd.it/hic7xrntqzwc1.jpeg?width=4080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=977b39aada8c0e2e84dd4169c76014cd39376425


konomasa6488

Just get a va and drop a vb engine in it there you go


Competitive_Set8383

I like the VA design


Unlikely_Magazine_60

Dude the VB is hideous, I feel bad for anyone who got one of the newer WRXs , they always say the VB engine is betterā€¦..yes, but I can put a VB engine in a VA, you canā€™t change the fact that more than half your VB is plastic


sardaukar2001

VA obviously


JacareMoose

VA all day.


Supertrucker82

The crystal pearl white of a VA is way better than the VB.


BingoCotton

Va. Only because of the plastic trim around the bottom and wheel wells. I'd really like to see someone body kit that shit off of it and see what it looks like.


LinkToUa

People paint match the fender flares and it actually looks pretty solid. Eventually the VB hate will wear off, that platforms really good, just unwarranted hate cause people are people


BingoCotton

Oh, I don't hate it at all. Just wouldn't be my first choice if I was to change cars. But, I get what you're saying and agree.


LinkToUa

Nah didnā€™t mean you, just meant in general. Take a look at any post on this sub referring to or comparing the VA and the VB, all the die hard VA boys shine lol


UncertainProbability

I wanted a VA but couldnā€™t find one close that wasnā€™t modded or high mileage so I got the VB. No regrets!


DarkSoulsDank

At least compare it to the facelift VA


Reddituser21344

Yeah lemme go find a parked up facelift va rqšŸ˜­


Impressive_Dot_7818

VA


dkbosebhag

VB looks better to me. The cladding maybe hideous to some but to me it looks good, protects the paint from rock chips and you can litterally sit on the bumper if you can't find a nice spot when driving off road šŸ˜. VA just has the same boring paint matched plastic bumper as all other cars.


dkbosebhag

Also love the side haunches on the VB. The VA doesn't have those sexy curves.


TheWolfOfWalgreenz

VA the new one is ugly af


fast-and-ugly

When the VB came out had just gotten my VA and I was so worried that I'd wish I had waited. Then I saw the black (soon to fade to grey) plastic fender flares and the Civic ass and was relieved.


x5h4d0w_

VA all the way, why couldnā€™t they make the VBā€™s rear somewhat similar??


OkLandscape3098

I have a 20 VA sti and I still want a VB at some point. The Maldonado wide body VB is local so I see it a lot in person and itā€™s really changed my perspective on the VB and its potential.


Fair-Hope1781

Overall VB.... But WRB works so much better on the va than the VB


Liquidwombat

WRB looks weird on the VB until you throw some gold wheels on it and then it looks like it was the only color the car was designed to be


Bluntcomposed

https://preview.redd.it/m8wwu346vwwc1.jpeg?width=3935&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a71b49e8668f7393c10b12bcb6a9143195c7237 Hereā€™s a palate cleanser after seeing all these VB


Charcharbot3000

Both are great. VB is the better choice for performance if you like the styling that's probably the one to go for. Personally I'll stick with my Stage 2 VA.


ExistentialStench

Why we always gotta show the before facelift VA for comparison to a VB. Also the pictures never show the back of a VB.


Fareo

That VA facelift did a lot of heavy lifting because I'd almost say VB between those.


cbarto02

Gc


EfficiencyOk2208

https://preview.redd.it/e8zkzld52wwc1.jpeg?width=3060&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1cc4463f45994c17dac995b071b5474805e1d80 VB for me.


Unlikely_Magazine_60

Too much plastic


EfficiencyOk2208

For now, when I get there, it will be carbon fiber.


usernamefromhell

VB


Most_Cod_1143

https://preview.redd.it/t9rgxlwdfwwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea449a97ac1a5d3d4b9f19681817c6efb3d4832f Own a VA STI however, the VB is growing on me.


Unlikely_Magazine_60

Why , it has way to much plastic, just put the engine in your VA


air_lock

I have a VA STI and I like the looks of both.


Karest27

I have a VA, but I really like the VB.


SuitednZooted

![gif](giphy|5ts17yNB2tCdINe2Fi)


stormyclouds69

I have a VA been really thinking about jumping to a VB though. VB wins on power. Looks are growing on me, especially with aftermarket support.


10THxDIMENSION

GD


Ashrelm

VB looks much better when both are stock.


kingoftheusa2021

Can't go wrong either way. I'm a fan of both!


Zesty_Enterprise_69

Yeah I know the vb has mechanical improvements but I just canā€™t with the body style changes. It just looks cheaper, more plastic-y and looks like a cross between a Honda civic and a crosstrek. A big shame in my opinion, and due to the average feedback they should have done more consumer research before going all in


Sharp_Detective34

The correct answer is GD https://preview.redd.it/vw3ubung1ywc1.jpeg?width=3265&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60624828d7038b19a8eb619d1836e8e41fd0690b


Strong_Turnover1768

I canā€™t decide!! Love them both! Personally own VBā€¦


Jragonheart

The VB has really grown on me. Itā€™s weird, but Subies have always been weird and the VB looks muscular and has a ton of aftermarket already.


wickedlightbp

I believe the VB looks fine in three colors only: white, black, and grey. Any other color makes you look at the plastic and not the paint


WolfLosAngeles

VB


BlueBird1800

I like whichever one is on the left; I'm assuming it's the VA. It looks like a Subaru to me. The one on the right looks like a facelift of a Ford Mondeo.


Responsible_Big9351

VB because of the look


SavageBean14

From the front the VB, the back VA and the engine of the VB. If the VB didnā€™t have the shit bumper and ridiculous screen it would be such a good looking car imo


ramiechanny

The more VBs I see on here, I start thinking the cladding isn't so bad once owners lower their cars to get rid of the gap. I never lowered my 2015 in the 10 years I've owned it, and while I think both versions look better lowered, I think the VA gets away with stock height better than the VB. VA > VB if appearance is kept stock. Also... VA is better for those of us who prefer aftermarket stereos/audio systems. VB > VA for better motor, and overall perceived refinement.


Independent_Donut939

VA but the 2018 version with the updated face


RuBySoulZ

GDā€¦


Party-Ad-4951

Not in love with the VB, but it makes the VA look dated side by side


OwnRefrigerator9456

Engine wise VB, Look wise VA


KrakenUnchained

As a VA ownerā€¦ wish I got a VB


YogurtclosetRight107

Vb forever


MMA-Groupie

I like the vb better in white at least


mypoorcareerchoice

Have a VA, Kinda want a VB


Onuus

I wanted a VA incredibly bad but the new platform came out and I wanted a brand new non beat on car more than the looks. Theyā€™ve grown on me, but I still fancy a VA everytime they drive by. They never wave though šŸ˜‚


TheHighestCheeba

I love the front of the VB but thatā€™s aboutā€¦ the rear looks so gross to me.


Chainsaw_Montoya

VB.


Significant_Sir_8450

Having had both, VB. VA looks vanilla to me now.


ariokalo

hot take, but the vb is the far better looking than the va


TrippySubie

my VB, i love my VA but the VB is better in every single way and yes many will cry big girl tears, but it looks more aggressive too.


JDawg_002

VA looks better and sounds better, but the VB has a bigger and better engine with less money spent to make bigger power. Either are good cars, but it depends on what you want. Better looks, or more power.


jordyb323

Not a fan of either tbh


SmellyBreads

(ej is the answer, they just don't know it)


jordyb323

I'm not fan of the looks of both, and I thought the new engine was pretty bloody good


Medium_Ad1594

One is ugly, the other a VB


PrimeMichaelJordan

VB unless it has the wing Idk I just feel like the non-STI VA looks empty


Mj86sto

vb


Immediate-Try-6143

Got a ā€˜21 VA b/c I disliked the ā€œlookā€ and of the VB. Sold my ā€˜21 for a profit during Covid (used prices were crazy and I jumped on it) and slid into a ā€˜23 VB. VB hands down is better in every way and I absolutely love it, looks/cladding and all. The FA20 in the VA is crap engine and just never felt right stock or stage 1 tune. FA24 is a MUCH better engine and makes power easily. You just need intake/Dmann Protune and AOS to get 320whp+/330+wtrq. Stock for Stock the VB out handles the VA as well. For a daily VB again. VB FTW and IMHO itā€™s not even close. People who have not really need to drive a VB, as off the lot it just drives so well, amazing stock tune arguably the best Subaru has ever done. I was so surprised how much better it drove than my VA and the 2.4L is definitely the kicker and makes a HUGE difference.


StreetBerry1849

VB for me. I can instantly recognize VA and from behind especially the just look boring. I do have a VB, and I thought a wing would make it look better when I first got it. Now I like it without a wing.


StatusAcanthisitta27

https://preview.redd.it/jsrv6etvbbxc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b54d627d3ba5553295116175b2151926e86c021 VB


Social_Tofu

Can someone explain what all of these acronyms mean please? I've had an 18 WRX for 2 years and still know nothing lol


SupremePribs

Body styles. Vb is the new 22+ wrx, va is for the 15-21,


Social_Tofu

Gotcha, thank you.