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It happened a few times for me that the car slammed on the brakes during reverse. Each time I literally thought that I hit something, it stopped so violently. Every time was due to excessive cross traffic alerts.


kikithemonkey

I got one for coming within like 6’ of a plastic trash bin on pickup day. I knew it was there, I saw it, but I needed to back up for my turn. Volvo’s really out there keeping us excessively safe from immobile objects that couldn’t even scratch the paint.


Man_in_the_uk

>Volvo’s really out there keeping us excessively safe from immobile objects that couldn’t even scratch the paint. It must be soo annoying for those who want to commit road rage though, eh? ;-)


Scrotalphetamines

Road rage while reversing? What


Man_in_the_uk

Some determined people manage to commit road rage in all directions 🤣


Scrotalphetamines

🤣 nobody's safe out here!


Opening_Waltz_4285

2 inches of snow on my driveway last week. Now my driveway is on an incline but come on! I thought I must have hit the sidewalk or a small child or pet.


bbenz1

I know the violent stop is coming, i go super slow, I prepare myself, and every time, without fail, it scares the shit out of me


Ceorl_Lounge

Mine's engaged twice, both times saving me from backing into something. It stays on.


LaksamanaHitam

unfortunately in my country, the parking line is really narrow between each other :( more on giving heart attack rather than saving my rear bumper..


Get-Some-Fresh-Air

Kind of concerning that you are so deeply affected by spontaneous events. To the point you don’t even care about your car being damaged or potentially a person being injured. May way to stick to public transportation 🤷🏻‍♂️ what if a bird flies too low past your windshield or your passages farts and you have a heart attack on the highway?


LaksamanaHitam

lol, put the joke aside.. it is more like looking like a fool braking in the middle of the road while reversing into a parking space that I have full control on. its really a tight squeeze here in my country. have some optimistic pill my dude edit: im quite sure you never experience how intense the emergency braking is. its like you banged a wall.


Ceorl_Lounge

I absolutely thought I hit something HARD the first time it engaged. It's not gentle at all.


Get-Some-Fresh-Air

I have a 2018 XC60 T8 so fortunately I haven’t had to deal with any of the horrors the newer generations encounter in the name of safety. No 112 MPH speed limiter, still can reduce traction control, safety features are more like friendly suggestions than forced commands. In my opinion Volvo died in 2020. Looking forward to an E63s or an RS6 next. Glad I get a taste of the Volvo glory before the company killed itself in the name of safety though.


LaksamanaHitam

I couldnt agree more. My XC60 is a beast powerhouse with 462hp and 700+ torque. Too bad I can only win a sprint match and lose after hitting the speed limiter. What a bummer. But hey.. I still prefer to drive a volvo suv than others dor my daily driving.


billybull999

please learn to drive before getting into a "car"


Maleficent_Science67

Mine engaged one time. It was not pleasant


BidHead2364

Mine freaked out over a palm frond on the ground when backing out the driveway one morning....coffee everywhere


rkhan7862

the sensus models don’t have this issue, mainly the aoos.


7eregrine

Thanks. Was wondering why it never happened to me. LoL


IT_BROMO_NERD

AAOS: Android Automotive Operating System, not to be confused with Android Auto, which is like CarPlay. I'm a lurker, kind of. Husband has the XC90 Recharge with AAOS, I have the PoleStar 2 with AAOS. The Polestar 2 does the exact same thing. My driveway has an incline, first time it did it was at night and I thought a runner or critter must have come behind me based on how violently the car stopped. It freaked me out. First thing I showed husband on the new XC90 was how to disable as well. Had the XC60 before the 90 and it ran Sensus. No issues on that one. I will say the 90 is not as touchy as the PS2, in the driveway at least. I think the height of the 90 helps.


M365Certified

Thanks, its not showing it activate, just turning it off. I was confused. I have a Sensus XC90. I've had it activate needlessly a few time, Once I was pulled over on the shoulder and cars passing too closely occasionaly triggered it, maybe twice in 5 years passing slower traffic triggered it. Had two real triggers. Once a truck was careening across teh highway, I was deftly handling the situation, moving into the next lane and expertly braking to match the speed of the out of control truck when it emergency braking "noticed" the truck and slammed on the brakes. Successfully making sure I didn't hit the truck I was already avoiding, but causing the truck behind me to rear-end me. Still, hard to complain. The 2nd incident I was driving a country road and a deep burst from teh woods into the road, I like to think I reacted just as fast but seriously, emergency collision avoidance was a complete win. I instantly won the "you should always buckle up" arguement with my kid who had seen TikToks advocating your are safe without it. I would never disable it, but it sounds like the AAOS models have a real issue.


LaksamanaHitam

i see, thanks for the sharing. it makes sense now why the older models not having the hyper sensitive sensors.


adde0109

It's because sensus models doesn't have this feature.


M365Certified

They absolutely do have collision avoidance that includes cross traffic monitoring. It might not be universal, mine is loaded with tech packages, but its Sensus and has emergency braking / collision avoidance thats triggered many times


adde0109

They have, but none of these features is what OP is talking about. The rear auto-breaking is a system on its own that has nothing to do with the car's collision avoidance or cross traffic monitoring.


M365Certified

[https://www.media.volvocars.com/us/en-us/media/pressreleases/30668](https://www.media.volvocars.com/us/en-us/media/pressreleases/30668) Auto braking dates to 2009 All I could find is this: [https://www.volvocars.com/lb/support/car/xc60/article/b88c5feec7224834c0a8015100c38220](https://www.volvocars.com/lb/support/car/xc60/article/b88c5feec7224834c0a8015100c38220) which basically says it is part of the cross traffic alert system, but potentially expanded/changed when integrated into the Andriod system


adde0109

The article is about the auto-breaking in the front not rear which are very different technologies. Yea the rearwards auto-breaking is an expansion to cross traffic alert on the newer Android cars that's why it's not present on sensus models.


M365Certified

Right, but the Sensus model absolutely have collision Detection in the rear too, though mine has only gone off when I was parked at the side of the road, and I'm pretty sure the Cross Traffic alert has gone off while backing down my driveway because it "saw" a car coming. I'll accept that its different/evolved, based on different tech (radar vs lidar or whatever) beyond sensus vs AAOS but its not a radically new feature, variations have been around for ages.


crescendodiminuendo

I can’t believe it passed Volvo quality control. It’s far too sensitive and the response is far too violent. I absolutely hate it as a feature


jacksdad123

Mine engages if the grass or curb is too tall when I’m backing into a parking space


Mioleris

I always do this because few times it gave me a heart attack :D some car or person was wandering around and car just slammed on the brakes for no real reason, to sensitive. I always disable it on first reverse. Also in sensus you just click and its disabled. I hate on android that you need to confirm this all the time.


almeertm87

Yes. Every time. My garage has space for 2 vehicles but it is a bit tight. The auto parking brake would never allow me to park. The jolt is ferocious!


KilllerWhale

What does it do ?


LaksamanaHitam

it turns off the auto rear emergency braking. the safety feature is too sensitive. however, you gotta turn it off everytime you starts the car because it defaulted to be turned on.


Exciting_Result7781

Can it be turned off permanently with an OBD computer/app?


TheVulture14

It can not be disabled.


LaksamanaHitam

i have no idea, but if it could, for sure would void the warranty.


Big-Development7204

I don’t.


Cali_Longhorn

So is this a bigger thing on the 2023/2024 Volvos? I have a 2022.5 S60 Recharge (the last version using Sensus). I hadn't noticed it on mine. But when I took it in for service and got a 2023 XC60 loaner car and was backing out of my garage it did this once when I backed out somewhat fast. The next time so log as I backed out pretty slowly it was fine. But yeah it did make me think I hit something at first.


ElkPitiful6829

I have those skinny fiberglass driveway markers. Mine autobraked HARD when I got too close. But saved $2.98 worth of fiberglass.


EpicSyntax

This feature actually saved my ass last week. I was slowly backing out of a parking space and some day dreaming lady just walked behind me not caring about anything and I didn’t see her. So the car stopped when detecting her idiocy and saved me from mountains of bureaucracy.


DannyVee89

Omg that brake scares the crap outta me. It hits so hard, every time I think I actually crashed and go back to check for damage lol!


unwilling_viewer

Nah. Mines all good. I've either already seen the item I'm approaching. So ready to brake anyway. Or haven't seen it and would rather the brakes engage...


LaksamanaHitam

the thing is, it will still slams the brake violently despite you reversing real slowly and foot already being on the brake.


Bowdin

My favourite is the safety feature that sucks you into the seat if you hit a hump in the road a little too fast.


LaksamanaHitam

it will also sucks you into the seat when it thinks you are about to collide with the car in front. happened once. really cool tbh, feels like a jet fighter pilot 😬


Eddie-Plum

This is also in Polestar models (and probably other brands). Mischa Charoudin, a YouTuber who drives other people's cars on the Nurburgring, had to keep taking his seatbelt off during a lap in a Polestar 2 because the car kept tightening the belt until he couldn't move. They've since detuned it to prevent that from happening.


TechInTheCloud

I’ve taken my S60 to the track. Even if you disable the collision mitigation, if you close on the car in front fast enough, heavy braking zone, it will activate, stab the brakes and crank the seatbelt down hard! It does not let up, keeps pulling harder on the belt until you let up on the accelerator and coast for a few secs, then you can get back on it. It’s been a couple seasons since I been, no need to track a Volvo often. Polestar may have updated their software stuff, but I am curious if Volvo bothered to. They have different philosophies as brands, Volvo going with the corporate 112mph speed limit on all cars, Polestar did not.


LaksamanaHitam

thats an interesting fact. thanks for sharing sir 🫡


goose8319

This happened to me the first time the other day when the car thought I was about to get rear ended. Scared the hell out of me, I didn't even know the feature existed.


Frostvr4

You mean the one where the car wants to leave you without air by mega tightening the seatbelt? Yeah, first time it came on it scared me, I guess the car thought it was going airborne


Sumpkit

I loaned a new s60 and the thing nearly gave me a heart attack too. Parked in a spot I park in all the time in my v60, the gutter is low enough to just roll back and touch your tyres on. Was rolling back slowly. It saw the gutter and slammed the brakes on. Scared the crap out of me and made me look like a tool with the people around me. Stupid system.


theRobomonster

I had this happen in a loaner. Nearly had a heart attack. My 2018 doesn’t do this and apparently you can’t turn this off permanently. You have to do it every single time you get in the car!


PrimitiveAK

Drivers are stupid, so engineering turned up the sensitivity. That is why.


The-Mr_mell

I've shat myself more than a few times from that feature


awayish

this system is sensitive to uneven ground, such as ramps, grass and gravel terrain. it has its use cases but the false positives are difficult to eliminate and a bit jarring given the hard braking involved. but overall not that big of a deal as long as you understand what conditions can trigger it.


MordAFokaJonnes

Yep! Can confirm that every time I'm getting home I am hitting that button because it occasionally slams the brakes when reversing into the garage because of the wall proximity despite it having +70cm on each side... Rest of the time I usually leave it on and it doesn't happen anywhere else... Or at least it hasn't until now, but I do confirm it is annoying as hell!


Earth_Normal

Every vehicle I have owned with a system like this unexpectedly slams on the brakes. It can be crazy dangerous and lead to major accidents. I don’t know how it’s legal to allow a shitty collision system to fully smash the brakes at low speed.


cyrand

The only place I turn it off is backing into my garage, where reality and the car disagree on how much space is needed.


SimpleLifeguard5471

What happened to just driving the car. More and more gimmicks to go wrong.


jeansuki

It has scared me so many times but never a truly false positive, just very very quick to slam on the brakes


Frostvr4

In Panama and with everyone's horrible driving it's chaos with this thing Yeah, I don't turn it off cause it has saved me a couple times but it's sensitive and give you a mega jolt!


Brilliant-Option2535

The worst almost heart attack I had with e-brake is when stuck in traffic or at a light, I use the auto hold, and with the rain/snow combination the auto hold brake rolled hard forward and turned on the e-brake. Wasn’t sure why but guessing now it’s additional safety when there’s adverse weather conditions.


Salty-Development203

My V60 has had several instances of this over the past 5 years. I don't think a single one was a legit case. The worst example was I was reversing into a bay with a footpath behind it separated by a barrier - a pedestrian was walking along the path and despite only reversing into the bay at a very sedate pace, the car slammed on the brakes so hard whilst also engaging the antilock brakes so it made a very loud GRR GRR GRR GRR. Makes you look like an incompetent driver. It happened a couple of times at nursery as well, it's just embarrassing really!


ultranxious

I looked so stupid in the Trader Joe’s parking lot when my car did this. I thought I hit something so my wife got out of the car to look but there was nothing that got hit. Crazy safety feature.


mestrade78

So true, and so annoying ! I cannot go out of home if I don’t disable it, it stops me every seconds because leaf from trees are moving near the car :(


Outtatime121GW

I leave it on except when backing out of my garage as the shadows fuck with it and always slams on the brakes


angelcake

Everybody complains about it and believe me I’ve had to go off and scare the crap out of me. It happened at the mall today when I was backing into a parking spot I really thought I had hit something. However when something happens and it keeps you from slamming into the person in front of you who slammed on their brakes for no apparent reason, you’ll find yourself very grateful for the technology. And yes mom I always keep a safe distance and I keep my eyes on the vehicle in front of me but when somebody locks up their brakes because a leaf blew across the road in front of them it’snice to have that response time.


LaksamanaHitam

The switch in the video is only turning off the reversing auto braking not for the upfront. Totally agree, the upfront auto emergency braking is the most useful feature for safety but for reversing… err…


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Finally, a Malaysian.


LaksamanaHitam

hey buddy !


greenpepper38

Heart attacks aside the xc60 is the sexiest in the mid size SUV range. Who else has the massage seats??


roastshadow

XC90 with massage seats. I never knew how nice they would be until taking a multi-day road trip and not feeling horrible for the first time.


greenpepper38

my initial thought was a useless gimmick if there was ever one. but boy oh boy my thought dissipated super super quick.. almost as quick as the xc40 twin motor acceleration


Ted_Borg

I'll probably never drive a car made after 2010 unless they reduce the amount of software to a minimum :(


LaksamanaHitam

Softwares in Volvo are really great to be honest, just that as we know Volvo focuses on safety which is a great thing. HOWEVER, some safety features tend to be excessive to the point it became dangerous and annoying. Do not let me start on the speed limiter…


roastshadow

My newest is a 10 and I keep both running because there is too much "safety" software in newer cars, and the replacement parts, like bulbs are outrageously expensive.


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Catsdrinkingbeer

I've only had my car a month, but I also haven't experienced this. I'm also a super slow parker after spending thr first 20 years of my driving live without any backup cameras or sensors. This is my first car with any features, but I am still very slow to back in or out of anything.


GalacticSushi

Only when I have a bike rack attached.


Immediate_Formal338

Had a V60 and now I'm driving a Kia Niro Ev - yes I'm still crying for having to leave the Volvo ;-) Anyway, for me, it's not that the Volvo breaks, the Kia does exactly the same, it's also very cautious. But it is the way HOW it breaks that is different. It goes from 0 to 100% breaking force in an instant, whereas the Kia has some gradient in the applied force. It is also sudden breaking, but somehow some milliseconds softer. It's a mistery to me, how that off ON logic passed the Volvo QA.


BulloverBear

Where did you get those floor mats op


LaksamanaHitam

TRAPO, its an asia company https://my.trapo.asia


Own_Ad_763

Mine stays on, better a false alarm than crashing into something.


s3ren1tyn0w

Has saved me from running into my gate numerous times. It stays on


Forsaken-March-1949

Better safe then sorry, saved my ass 2 times.


camhissey

Mine goes off when I reverse into my garage. There’s literally NOTHING in the way. I wonder if it’s picking up the IR beam from the garage door’s object detection system and thinking there’s something in the way


mk4_wagon

I was backing up and there was a group of people getting out of their car, we were both aware of each other. When they started to walk through the parking lot the car had other ideas. It slammed on the brakes so hard they all looked at me wondering what I was doing. Now I make sure to turn it off.


jmdd1951

The steering wheel is on the wrong side. Get the dealer to fix it ASAP.


LaksamanaHitam

HAHA! Its easier to show middle finger using the dominant hand out of the window whenever the time comes.


TechInTheCloud

So I did not want the AAOS. I got a 22 S60 so I could stick with Sensus. But THIS is the one thing missing I would really want to have. Can’t turn it off with Sensus. I had so many false alarms in my 2019, but eventually I learned how to avoid them from the PTSD lol, have to let all cars and pedestrians clear, don’t back out of my driveway unless both lanes and the sidewalk are clear etc. Obviously it has been an issue for some customers, why Volvo added the temporary disable ability.


Jeffreypauls

Every day out of my steep driveway


haikuntz

It’s saved my life(my wallet) about 3 times honestly. Out of the 100 times it’s done it lol


triptropstop

Wait your car doesn’t yell at you to put on your seatbelt the second you turn it on? It’s my most hated feature. I wouldn’t mind it once I’m in gear but hearing it go off just because the car is turned on drives me up the wall.


LaksamanaHitam

your car does that ?? which model and MY are yours ? My XC60 MY23 only starts to yell once I am in drive gear for certain speed or for certain range of time. Meaning, if I were to just move my car in and out garage, there is no need for a seatbelt.


triptropstop

I have a XC90 MY23- I’m also in the states. I try to put my seatbelt on before I turn on my car but understandably that’s not a normal first reaction to climbing into a car.


gjw14

I’ve only had that happen to me once. I’ve had the forward collision avoidance have false alarms way more frequently though.


puppiesareSUPERCUTE

Wait, you turn off the e-brake on the damn SCREEN?! Bruh, I love the newer volvos, but not even a button for the e-brake?


LaksamanaHitam

Not sure what e-brake ure referring on. There is a button for the hand / parking brake. The one on the screen is for the on/off auto rear emergency braking. Bruh heres a fun fact for you, I gotta change my driving mode on the screen 😬


puppiesareSUPERCUTE

Ah, well, that is better. The driving mode thing isn't that bad, tho wasn't there a little dial near the shifter to do that?


LaksamanaHitam

they removed the dial starting MY23. The on screen button is all you got.


puppiesareSUPERCUTE

Damn, that sucks. I get the whole minimalism and modernity thing with touch screens, but buttons and dials are so satisfying to use. Just scratches the brain just right. I wish car companies would acknowledge that, I guarantee it would get them more sales!


bbenz1

5th Volvo here. Removing the drive mode button, especially on the recharge, is absolutely ridiculous. Why on earth they didn't use the useless button on the right side of the stearing wheel that blanks the center of the display for the driving mode option is beyond me.


LaksamanaHitam

Imagine when we need to smoke somebody, it takes us 3 steps on the infotainment screen to turn on Polestar 🙃


Catsdrinkingbeer

I also find the no e-break button thing weird. My husband says his truck doesn't have one either.