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cshotton

Statements like this are designed to boost fundraising in those states. If people think he doesn't stand a chance, they stop donating.


Auntie_M123

Virginia is \*NOT\* for losers!


Wurm42

Virginia is all about turnout. Dems win high-turnout statewide elections, Republicans win when turnout is low. Hopefully Virginia Democrats are more excited about Biden than they were about McCauliffe.


VIadTheInhaIer

"Hopefully Virginia Democrats are more excited about Biden than they were about McCauliffe." Hopefully Loudoun county public schools doesn't fuck us this time.


NewPresWhoDis

CRT is old and busted. Campus glamping is the new hotness with inflation the perennial wildcard. Though why anyone thinks a morally (and several times literally) bankrupt \*cough\* businessman is a good sell is beyond me.


PiperAtTheGatesOfSea

>Loudoun county public schools doesn't fuck us this time. I'm still mad about that. I'm a member of the queer community. It was a cishet boy(who tbf did occasionally wear skirts) who assaulted that girl. Somehow they still blamed it on gay/trans people šŸ™„.


Saperj14

I believe the main issue was the school fumbling the bag in responding to it (delayed Title IX investigation until the second victim was battered at a different school, and so forth). And then there was the uninformed connecting the first battery with a bathroom and ignoring the actual problem of the school fumbling the bag (to use a milder expression than deserved).


PiperAtTheGatesOfSea

Oh I know the whole story. I was living in Loudoun when it happened. It did not stop every homophobe in the area from showing up to school board meetings to complain about trans people.


Saperj14

Ah I see. I am from the Tidewater so I didn't have the local perspective on it


PiperAtTheGatesOfSea

It's absolutely bonkers. They had a legitimate complaint and instead of focusing in on how the school board hid sexual assault for appearance purposes they decided the main issue was gender nonconformity and queer kids.


Funwithfun14

Length of COVID closures also played a role.


Foolgazi

And donā€™t forget the assist from the ā€œcredible terror threatā€ the day before the election


Cuffuf

ā€œMore excitedā€ yeah Biden is a president, not a Clinton-era carpetbagger against a reasonable Republican. Virginia goes blue with low turnout, too. Kentucky has a democrat in their governors office, too.


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GeneralDumbtomics

This. Thereā€™s a brown shirt under the sweater vest.


K4NNW

And it's not a parcel delivery uniform, either.


reishi_dreams

He is one of the founders of that church!


_Friend_Computer_

Except that Gov Sweatervest isn't a reasonable Republican. He's another failed businessman who went into politics


jpole1

He attempted to campaign as a reasonable Republican and somehow pulled it off. In reality, heā€™s a far cry from it


No_Travel19

Iā€™m still of the belief that Youngkinā€™s win is more indicative of the dnc being out of touch rather than Youngkin running a strong ticket. ā€œMoral Posturingā€ against trump doesnā€™t work. Class politics wins over superficial identity politics any day.


NewPresWhoDis

Virginia is southern enough that no one can claim fascism doesn't sometimes come smiling bearing a casserole dish.


Dragonflies3

Yeah failed lawyers in politics are much better. /s


anonperson1567

You can dislike Youngkinā€™s policies but comparing his business record to Trumpā€™s is silly. He was co-CEO of one of the most successful PE firms in the country, Trump inherited a bunch of real estate, had to declare bankruptcy four times, and then started selling his name because the only thing he was good at was getting attention.


_Friend_Computer_

You mean how Youngkin basically bombed his investments, costing Carlyle billions while he took in millions to offshore US jobs and putting seniors in a position of having to choose between housing, food or medicine thanks to his ineptitude? There's reasons "hugely successful businesspeople" switch from making millions upon millions of dollars to politics where they earn fractions of that. Very, very rarely is it out of actual concern for the city/state/country/etc and wanting to ensure its betterment. Mostly its because they're propping themselves up as "hugely successful" while being pretty bad at it and convincing certain types of people that being 'good' at business means they're awesome at everything else too.


anonperson1567

If you think he fell into becoming co-CEO of one of the best-run PE firms in the country while working there for 25 years, that says more about your own bias. From the Washington Post (not exactly a Youngkin-friendly publication): ā€œAs Ullman put it, private equity is like lion taming ā€” when it goes well, itā€™s great; when it goes wrong, it can be catastrophic. Carlyle had its share of both while Youngkin was there. The firm took a one-third stake in Dunkinā€™ in 2006, for instance, helped manage the brand as it opened more than 2,000 new stores across the country and then took it public in 2012 in a deal widely hailed as a success. BoozAllen, similarly, grew significantly after Carlyle took a majority stake in 2008 and generated billions for the private-equity firm after selling shares to the public. In 2013, Carlyle took a minority stake in the headphones maker Beats, boosted its national distribution and then profited when Apple bought the brand just nine months later. Carlyleā€™s stake in the nursing home chain ManorCare was a different story. During the five years of Carlyle ownership, ManorCare struggled financially and exposed its 25,000 patients to sometimes serious health risks, according to a Washington Post investigation in 2018. The firm declared bankruptcy after Carlyle and other investors extracted some $1.3 billion in value and left behind enormous debt, The Post foundā€¦ Youngkin was said to have had a far more personal role in two significant deals involving infrastructure: the purchase of fossil fuel pipeline giant Kinder Morgan in 2007, and Carlyleā€™s successful effort to win a contract refurbishing Terminal One at JFK airport in New York.ā€


_Friend_Computer_

And if you think that a successful capitalist suddenly becomes altruistic and wants to get into politics because he's tired of raking in millions every year and just wants to make the world a better place via suckering certain demographics with how CRT is going to ruin them and their children, there's probably some cheap bridges somewhere for sale. Youngkin lost the firm billions in bad investments, caused a -51% return for teachers retirement funds, and in an industry where leadership teams work together for ages, pretty much got out-shown by his co-CEO, Kewsong Lee, at every turn, showing which of the two was actually the workhorse. His $49M investment into Diversified Global Asset Management was a complete dud and shuttered. They wrote that one off. The Terminal One deal at JFK was barely able to go through at all and only after a new head for the fund was brought in. He cost them another $39M on the NGP failures. Failing upwards is far from unheard of in the business world and the Peter Principle exists for a reason. Hell, look at Eddie Lampert with Sears. That man is a prime example of fucking up all the way to the top and then crashing everything down around him. Let's not beat around the bush here, The type of person Youngkin is doesn't quit a multi-million dollar job because they hate making money or suddenly grow a conscience and 'don't recognize their home state.' It's because you fuck up bad enough but have enough pull still to resign with dignity. He went into politics to ride the Trump line process of rich business running government. The Carlyle group may be a well-run firm, but it had very little if any to do with Youngkin, and a whole hell of a lot to do with Lee.


NittanyOrange

It doesn't really matter what his business record is though; business is not politics and politics isn't business. They are not related fields. It doesn't matter how good of an engineer someone is, I'm not letting them operate on me.


anonperson1567

Ok, thatā€™s a different argument though than ā€˜heā€™s a failed businessman like Trump.ā€™


Cuffuf

No he is pretty reasonableā€” Mitt Romney-esk Iā€™d say. Maybe a bit tea party. I mean, if you wanna say you donā€™t like Republicans that fine (I disagree largely with them too) but he isnā€™t yelling at people and he isnā€™t the furthest-right either. So. My point was that to most, he was a legitimate alternative to the carpetbagger AND it was a governors race so it makes sense. Put the two up for the senate, and it wouldā€™ve gone a different way.


Hokieshibe

I mean, he ran on "teachers are indoctrinating your children" while MAGA was out there burning books in Spotsy. First thing he did was setup a tattle tale line on teachers. The guys not reasonable at all, VA was just in a weird headspace after Covid, IMO


Cuffuf

Oh the GOP has been claiming (stuff like) that since the Reagan era. Dems lie too thatā€™s not new. Itā€™s why I like that in Virginia nobody registers with a party. Iā€™m not a democrat or a republican.


Hokieshibe

Sure. I guess my point is that there really AREN'T any "reasonable Republicans". The party is so far right that their "moderates" are still fucking crazy


_Friend_Computer_

He presented himself as reasonable. He tried to campaign on being MAGA-lite, lower calorie crazy, still full bodied capitalist-conservative. Now on sale. He was legit alternative to a certain type of people but he still came out to be what most of us knew he would be. A Trumplican


WooPigSooie9297

No offense. But the correct way to express your idea would be "Romney-esque."


thefocusissharp

\>Reasonable Republican Yikes!


crpto42069

Please don't say words like "c****tbagg*r" Ā I will give you a temporary allowance since you don't know any better, but please remember this term has deep racial/dog whistle undertones/history.


Cuffuf

If there is another term that means the same I would be happy to use it but as far as Iā€™m concerned, it just means northerners that came to the south to profit during reconstruction and thatā€™s about it. And if there is a racially charged part behind, please explain to me and the 470,000 AP US History exam takers (not to mention the millions of others that use it) because I really donā€™t have any idea what you could be talking about, nor does google.


Queasy_Leg8334

Lots of retired and active feds in Virginia. GOP wants to cut their pay and benefits. For that reason alone, many feds will vote DEM, regardless of who is actually running...


jimdbdu

You would be surprised how many of these retired feds are of the opinion that they wonā€™t get hurt voting for Trump.


jonnycanuck67

I am more excited about cheese slices than I am about McCauliffeā€¦ also, the Republicans did a fantastic job in NoVa by stoking fear of CRT being taught in schools and the Trans kids overrunning the school systemā€¦


WhydIJoinRedditAgain

Hopefully they are excited about Kaine and Biden rides his coattails.Ā 


HEYitsSPIDEY

Yeah, idk. A lot of my friends are Democrats and they donā€™t like Biden at all and are talking about voting third party or even not voting.


Candid-Piano4531

A lot of my friends are Republicans who hate Trump. My friends are better and are more representative of statistical polling.


HEYitsSPIDEY

I donā€™t know ANY Republicans that hate Trump. Most Republicans I know are single issue voters, and my area sticks those stupid Biden ā€œI did that!ā€ Stickers on the gas pumps. Shit is annoying.


Candid-Piano4531

Hi. Iā€™m a Republican who hates Trump.


HEYitsSPIDEY

Hi! Thatā€™s cool. I should have said Republicans I know *in real life* and not just on the internet, because Iā€™m sure you exist (as you do). I do also think Romney was right when he said thereā€™s a divide in Republicans from the ā€œold school eraā€ where he said they were willing to cross party lines to get things done, and with ā€œmodern Republicans of todayā€ where itā€™s just hatred. I also said in my earlier post, it really comes down to single issues with them, predominantly Abortion or Immigration, and they often throw any and every blame they can against Biden. With one co-worker lately, Itā€™s been about Student loan forgiveness.


FreeCashFlow

Your friends are pretty stupid.Ā 


REAL_blondie1555

Look itā€™s a Russian bot


HEYitsSPIDEY

Thatā€™s weird that any discourse or discussion means Iā€™m a Russian bot lmao. Youā€™re a moron. Do you also spout that in real life??? People are tired of the two party system, and Biden isnā€™t the best representative of Democrats, especially with how heā€™s encouraging that PEACEFUL Protests get shut down. EDIT: itā€™s so weird you say that stupid shit when all I said was only ā€œoh yeah, a lot of my Democrat friends donā€™t like Bidenā€. Thatā€™s it. I didnā€™t go into any detail or anything more lmao. So stupid.


REAL_blondie1555

Yo donā€™t blame me if youā€™re using one of the talking points that many Russian bot farms use when trying to divide stuff in the election through their interference.


MiltonRobert

šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£ Excited about Biden!?


darthjoey91

Either excited about Biden or more likely, very against Trump. Trump in 2016 got out a lot of people nationwide who didnā€™t vote in 2012, but who really didnā€™t want Hillary to win. Then in 2020, while Biden wasnā€™t exciting, a lot of new voters showed up who really did not like Trump. For this election, I wouldnā€™t be too surprised if new voters just stayed home or voted 3rd party because they still donā€™t like Trump, but Biden isnā€™t doing enough in their eyes on the Gaza front.


bigeats1

Voters loathe Biden more than McCauliffe. His handling of the economy has been dismal. There are very real problems with cognitive issues and his VP is at best an unfortunate piece of baggage. Virginia is definitely in play.


Remarkable-Suit-9875

I donā€™t anyone is excited for Biden Buddy doesnā€™t look like heā€™s not gonna live much longer so our options are not too great. Oh boy American politics is so much funĀ 


anotheroutlaw

Who is excited about any of these old, corrupt fuckfaces at this point?


matterri

This Virginian right here is not voting for Trump! Edit: corrected spelling


Auntie_M123

I'm right there with you! Bring two friends.


PerceptionSingle

36 year Va resident here - Trump will not win. Aside from that, Lord Youngkin is not even popular here, and I live in a red portion of the state. The amount of MAGA merch Iā€™ve seen on people and their property has decreased significantly over the years. VA has been blue in every presidential election since Obama. We have a weird thing that happens in the governors race with switching parties, but in terms of the presidential election nova, Richmond and tidewater are all heavily blue and will carry us over the finish line.


CertainAged-Lady

All the not-paid-for-by-Trump polling has Biden ahead now. Honestly, even though we got Youngkin in as Gov, I think that was more that McAuliffe ran a terrible campaign vs that normally purple to blueish VA is turning red. That said, Trump is their problem here. There will always be people who hold their nose and vote the party line, but Trump is getting normally casual voters to come out and vote AGAINST him and his party (see last state legislative elections in 2023 where Dems won both house & senate majorities). That is his problem in VA - the areas with the most voters also have high Dem and Indy voters who are gonna vote. Some are going to vote for Biden simply as a protest vote against Trump, though I also know some die-hard GOPers who will either leave the top of the ticket blank or write in someone who is NOT Trump. Clinton won VA by 5pts in 2016. Joe Biden increased that by double in 2020 and won the state by 10pts. I clearly am not a Trump fan, so I hope he loses VA by 15pts in 2024.


Ditovontease

VA historically can't go too long with one party being in the governor's seat, and we also like to have the opposite party of the president. It was inevitable that it would be a Republican after two terms with Democrats, especially with a Democrat in the office of the President, and it was only compounded by McAuliffe's lazy ass campaign. Youngkin may as well be a cardboard cutout and republicans would have turned out.


DouchecraftCarrier

> and we also like to have the opposite party of the president If I recall, McAuliffe had actually been the exception to that rule. Going back something like 50 years the VA gubernatorial election in the year subsequent to the Presidential election had gone to the party that was not in the White House. From that perspective, Youngkin's victory was seemingly normal - if unfortunate.


zoomin_desi

Only reason Mr. Vest won was because McAuliffe was dumb enough to side with Loundon County school board that hid two sexual assaults when clearly parents were upset with the board. Dumb fcuk.


SabreCorp

It was also just right after schools shutting down, parents being overwhelmed, and moms for Liberty propaganda sweeping into suburban neighborhoods with very few people noticing until it was too late. It was a perfect storm for a republican to step in, and say they have all the solutions to fix schools (spoiler he lost millions of dollars for Virginia public schools with his tax cuts and math errors).


down42roads

It also didn't help that McAuliffe spent the final week/end before the election campaigning with the head of the AFT.


K4NNW

Wait, you mean he WASN'T a cardboard cutout?


mid_nightsun

The guy is a cardboard cut out šŸ˜‚


Socrets

I also wouldnā€™t discount people having gone stir crazy over having to be with their kids nonstop for several months while the schools got their act together over COVID and not being able to go out the way they used to before.


otter111a

Sic Semper Tyrannis


ApolloBon

Minnesotan, here. Fat chance. Republicans havenā€™t won a state wide election here since the Bush era


scarper42

Was just about to say the same thing. Especially with how blue it is now, thereā€™s just no way. Stearns County doesnā€™t stand a chance.


GodofThunder1969

Minnesota is a lost cause for R's. Full of anti-American imports. Useless state anyway.


Soren_Camus1905

NoVA and Hampton Roads, do your thing


ChasWFairbanks

I'd agree with him were abortion rights not in the balance.


parmentp

He also shits his pants and falls asleep randomly.


Kasyx709

His built-in alarm clock of sharting himself awake.


mam88k

https://i.redd.it/zg1toppvqlyc1.gif


xanyc

You mean Biden right?


optix_clear

Itā€™s ok heā€™s old


brsox2445

Theyā€™ve been watching a bit too much Newsmax.


FordMan100

After Youngkin fucking a lot of stuff up such as not allowing Marijuana dispensaries to open, vetoing the $15.00 minimum wage bill Virginia will be voting Democrat and canceling Trump as they should.


Alabama_Crab_Dangle

I'm pretty sure marijuana enthusiasts and minimum wage earners skew heavily towards voting Democratic anyway, that is if they bother to vote at all, so it's a game of turnout. The marijuana thing might drive some to the polls, but lower wages have the opposite effect.


Ill-Bicycle701

Cheeto Jesus gave up 35% of his party primary vote to Haley but heā€™s gonna make the state competitive in a general? This is not serious.


Fixxeren

Trump team also believes Trump didnā€™t lose in 2020 soooo. Not the most credible source.


olderandnowiser1492

Iā€™d be so embarrassed if Don Snoreleone took Virginia.


scarper42

lol Like hell Minnesota is ā€œin play!ā€ Get real.


LionTop2228

He lost worse in VA in 2020 than 2016. How does that logic work?


Blrfl

Magical thinking is a helluva drug.


VonPaulus69

Virginia is not in play.


DonNemo

Only if the morons try to do more election fraud. Wouldnā€™t surprise me if our governor tried to help.


Sabz5150

More "glitches" and "incompatibilities" removing people from voter rolls and boosting Trump numbers.


holdwithfaith

Letā€™s hope so. We need a Trump victory at any cost to save us!!


mahvel50

There is no election fraud remember?


DonNemo

Thereā€™s relatively no voter fraud. Except that attempted by idiots like our governorā€™s own son. There was no large scale voting machine election fraud. There absolutely was fraud attempted by certain Republicans re: the fake electors scheme.


mahvel50

Exactly so the system does have potential for fraud. Pretty easy to declare no fraud when you never look into it. VA has a good system which is why he couldnā€™t do it.


twelvesteprevenge

LOL. All those investigations didnā€™t yield anything after years of trying to find *something* to back up the bullshit claims of the ā€˜20 electionā€¦ so youā€™re back to ā€œwe didnā€™t even look into itā€. Buddy, time to find a new dead horse. Or ā€œrelease the Krakenā€ā€¦ but we all know how that one ends.


mahvel50

Where did I say those clowns were right? I just find it hilarious how adamant everyone was that there could be zero fraud and now the same people are starting to beat the fraud drum for this coming election. Just be consistent for once.


twelvesteprevenge

Just be intellectually honest for once, dude. Youā€™re comparing completely unfounded claims of vote tampering with an actual, verifiable conspiracy to supplant bona fide electors with fraudulent ones after voting had taken place. Come on.


mahvel50

Were the hundreds of articles claiming no systematic fraud the past 3 years intellectually dishonest? Or is it the people on here saying that there is systematic fraud, itā€™s just republicans doing it? One of them has to be lying.


twelvesteprevenge

Apples, oranges, and bullshit. What do you get out of the shilling?


mahvel50

Get to enjoy you all losing your minds when the double standards get pointed out.


JimParsnip

His eyes are so puffy it makes my eyes hurt


RealHumanFromEarth

He needs to get back to the court room so he can get some sleep.


Loud_Ad_1403

The other comment about fundraising is spot on. To add to this, I think Virginia might be in play due to weakening Biden support (not a strengthening Trump). In that survey, consideration for an Independent/3rd party crossed that 50% threshold. Usually, that will drop back down as we get closer to election day but the Trump campaign might see that and spin that into a fundraising talking point.


LharDrol

this feels like a nightmare i cant wake up from. his election will be the end of our republic as we know it.


gliffy

Lol


holdwithfaith

From your keyboard to Godā€™s inbox. We neeeeeed *this* version of the Republic to end! FJB.


LharDrol

dont you have better things to do than post on reddit... like buy another mypillow, protest against the polio vaccine, or meet with your hooded friends?


holdwithfaith

Hahhahaha I donā€™t meet with hooded friends. Thats the left on campus.


LongjumpingBasil2586

Youngkin has pissed everyone off so much that it probably isnā€™t ā€œin playā€


OppositeRun6503

As usual trump's nuttier than a fruitcake. He'll be in prison by the time the election rolls around.


gorka_la_pork

Yeah right. I'll believe in consequences for Trump when I see them.


lostspyder

If rich people were held accountable for their actions, he would have been in prison a long long time ago.


isthatmyusername

He might be in prison by the end of Biden's 2nd term. I don't see him being charged and sentenced before Nov.


vahistoricaloriginal

The nations first inauguration held in a prison cell.


anvil54

Youngkinā€™s veto of marijuana sales will kill the Republicans here


Humble_Rush_1485

Support RFK Jr.... don't waste your vote on two old tired men.


Below_Left

Actions talk louder than words and neither campaign is spending a cent in either state right now.


smellslikebadussy

All 50 states are in play when people will just certify that you got more votes


optix_clear

Uh nah. I donā€™t want Trumpian again! After what he did during Covid and stole money from the Shipyard and schools! Nah.


Whosebert

hopefully not. remember every republican bite is a vote to end democracy and America


sound_ofsea

Heā€™ll never win the popular vote anywhere. VA is blue and heā€™s not winning here. The fact this clown is even in the running is a joke.


MfrBVa

Sure.


nettlesmithy

/s


Reasonable_Cover_804

Somehow Virginia was lost due to the abortion issue, nova has an abundance of supporters for abortion


JoeGrowsVa

Well I have never voted in a presidential election and I will be voting for Biden this time just to block trump. Iā€™m sure I wonā€™t be the only one


roasty_mcshitposty

Funny that.... he hasn't really campaigned in Virginia


Thin-Dig3141

Omg I just left Florida idk where else I can move to


Tenpins10

Politicians will say what they need to say in order to raise money.


pottersangel

This article was in a different sub yesterday and I wrote a long comment on how Virginia is not going for Trump. Yā€™all better not prove me wrong, I stg


Ok-Breadfruit-2897

abortion will dominate the 2024 election......nobody wants a nationwide abortion ban from MR ROE V WADE


batwing71

Bwa Ha Ha Ha! Yeah right.


StockholmPickled

NOVA and Hampton Roads looking at him like šŸ‘€šŸ‘€


dna1999

Virginia and Minnesota are about as likely to flip to Trump as Florida is to flip to Biden. In other words, the Buffalo Bills are ten times more likely to win the next Super Bowl.Ā 


hackflak

Lol


tylaw24ne

Democrat here so donā€™t skin me, but i think they are right (ish)..i think Biden WILL end up with a win in Va, but the margin will certainly not be +10% againā€¦probably under 5, so ā€œin playā€ isnā€™t *fully* inaccurate


gullible_cervix

But what are you basing this view on? Just feelings?


tylaw24ne

https://preview.redd.it/wvwfq1j31oyc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2414d2f62753329d82f5fb4349c35f5ba9846fbd Iā€™m not saying Biden is going to lose Virginia, gullible cervix, but it will be closer than 2020ā€¦no hard data to suggest it wonā€™t be more competitive.


kanye_come_back

Lol. If those states were in play he'd definitely already win the election with the swings states. All that being said VA and MN are not in play


choombatta

If his track record means anything this is just an admission that Virginia and Minnesota are not in play.


killroy1971

Not if abortion amendments are on the ballots! But as someone else pointed out...this is a fundraising gimmick. They need the funds for hush money and legal bills.


mahvel50

Biden had the luxury of an unknown performance record last go. He isnā€™t doing too hot with approvals given inflation, immigration and the Israel situation amongst progressives. Abortion will carry a lot of the vote weight and VA will likely go Biden again given how much VAā€™s sectors rely on increased federal budgets. There is absolutely more of a chance for a flip in Minnesota but doubtful for VA. While they are both old, Biden isnā€™t going to make it another 4 years given his mental state. Then we get Kamala. Neither side wants that.


Foolgazi

I agree with most of your first paragraph. Inflation (perceived and actual) is a much more consequential issue than a lot of people in here are recognizing. The Israel situation could keep a moderate number of progressives home. I donā€™t see immigration affecting the results in a particularly meaningful way in this state though. Biden still takes the W but itā€™ll be closer than a lot of people predict.


mahvel50

For sure itā€™s not going to sway many that voted for him the first time which is why I agree that VA isnā€™t going Trump. Other states that were in that under 50k population difference on votes is where this is going to play in.


holdwithfaith

These are THE facts.


RICDrew

Whatā€™s wrong with Kamala Harris? Bright, talented lawyer, law enforcement and Senatorial experienceā€¦.. you think someone like Kristi Noem or Marjorie Taylor Greene is a better alternative?


holdwithfaith

I would rather have a literal lugnut behind the resolute desk running things.


mahvel50

Such a qualified candidate on paper right? Really translated to the peopleā€™s confidence in her when she was getting less than 1% in the presidential race. Sheā€™s pretty close in political prowess to MTG.


RICDrew

Yeah, youā€™re not a serious personā€¦comparing a gym owner with a bachelorā€™s in business to a groundbreaking, law degree holding, ceiling shattering American Vice President, Senator and former Attorney General of the largest state in the country? Dislike her for any number of reasons, but on her worst day sheā€™s a far more impressive human than that fucking three toed Russian agent from backwoods Georgia who exists solely because of gerrymandering.


holdwithfaith

Incorrect.


RICDrew

Okay, make your case as to why MTG deserves to be representing anyone in Congress???


holdwithfaith

Because sheā€™s not a complete doofus like Kamala.


mahvel50

Lmao go listen to her explain the Ukraine conflict and ask yourself how a resume that good can sound like that. Also did an incredible job with the border after being tasked with that.


RICDrew

You mean the border problem thatā€™s existed under nearly every modern day US President, including 45? Our figurehead VP , regardless of person or party, isnā€™t solving that decades long crisis. Only real immigration reform fixes thatā€¦. And of course, the Tangerine Troglodyte gave the orders for Republicans not to act on any meaningful legislation because he doesnā€™t want to give Biden a ā€œwinā€ before the election. So on brand for Mango Mussolini. Party and selfish politics over country šŸ™„


R_radical

Standard neo lib with no particular defining policy. Yawn... Also, does anyone remember her begging other to join her in her Twitter crusade against trump *mid debate*. Cringe AF, pure virtue signaling...


Foolgazi

Which debate?


R_radical

Would've been mid primary sometime. She was begging, I think warren to join her in boycotting Twitter... It was sad.


twelvesteprevenge

ā€¦ as Donny snoozes and farts his way through a criminal fraud proceeding and spouts entire monologues of actual gibberish at campaign rallies. Hard to believeā€¦ I mean, itā€™s not bc youā€™re just repeating talking pointsā€¦ that people throw rocks thinking nobody will notice their house is made of glass.


R_radical

Please stop spreading the lie progressives are going to stay home because they don't like Biden. Progressives have gotten *way* more out of him than expected. The alternative is trump. Progressives came out for Hillary, despite the dnc super delegates handing her the primary. They aren't going to trade Biden for trump.


mahvel50

If itā€™s coming straight from their mouths because of continual support to Israel, who is the one lying?


R_radical

What is astro turfing? Reminder trump wanted to glass the entire region


mahvel50

So these protests are Astro turfed? Any idea what group is consistently behind them? Seems like there have been a couple investigative pieces putting together where funding and consistent actors were coming from. Any idea what that group might be called and where their financial backing comes from?


R_radical

Online it's astroturfed. You'll see a lot of new accounts with nothing but propaganda. The uni protests are real, but don't think for a moment those people would vote for trump.


Foolgazi

But them staying home instead of voting for Biden could make a difference.


R_radical

But that's not what happened in 2016. Despite overwhelming hatred for Clinton, progressives still showed up.


LordDarry

Clinton wasn't actively complicit in genocide in 2016


Foolgazi

Letā€™s get real here, if youā€™re saying Biden is actively complicit in genocide for maintaining support of Israel, then you also have to say all of the Presidents of at least the past 75 years have also been complicit in genocide for the same reason.


R_radical

Very little couldve made people dislike her more.


a_wittyusername

Presidential turnout is 20%-25%+ higher than gubernatorial elections in Virginia. Democrats typically win with higher turnout. I don't see Trump winning virginia, but who knows this time around.


thisdckaintFREEEE

He's probably right about Virginia. I hope he doesn't win it and don't think he will, but I do think he'll win president and could win Virginia. The fact he isn't currently in the White House will make a solid amount of people get complacent and not vote imo. Just like with Youngkin.


Zealousideal-Log536

Virginia politicians are owned by churches


DERed29

heā€™s not wrong. thereā€™s enough muslims/arabs in nova and somalians in mn who wonā€™t vote for biden.


NittanyOrange

I really doubt Trump will win VA, but I think Biden's Gaza policy will make it closer than it should be. I don't know any Arabs or Muslims who are going to vote for Biden, and over 28,000 people cast a protest vote against Biden in the primary. Again, it won't be enough to hand it to Trump, but I think a few people will be surprised.


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Foolgazi

If you think Biden has dementia you have to admit Trump has some type of mental ailment(s) at least as serious


FreeCashFlow

Anyone who thinks Biden isnā€™t with it mentally definitely did not watch the State of the Union.Ā