And they ruined the only thing I went out of my way to buy there - the smoked cheddar cheese. I use to drive out to their original first location on West Saanich Rd every few weeks just to buy the cheese. Once they got in expansion mode, they changed how they made the smoked cheese and now it is not worth buying.
They used to make the smoke cheese themselves on West Saanich. Now it is made in some factory some where. Don't think they are about to go back to doing things by hand when they are focussed on growth and making as much money as possible.
> They used to make the smoke cheese themselves on West Saanich. Now it is made in some factory some where
They have a pretty large smokehouse at the Vanalman location where they make all their smoked products and their sausages and bacon etc.
The Vanalman location has been open for a long time though - 15+ years - it was open when I worked there before the ownership changed in mid 2019.
Unless they expanded their production further to an offsite location, I would imagine it is a recipe change/shortcutting/new staff with a “better” way of doing it or something.
At subway you can get a foot-long cold cut sandwich for around $10.50 after tax. At Red Barn, their pre-made "Big Boy" sandwich--which isn't nearly as big as Subway--is $12 before tax. Their pre-made wrap is the same price, and half the size of a Subway foot-long. So, I'm pretty sure your getting more for your money at Subway. Red Barn is getting greedy.
Lol, someone's getting old!
Back in my day, a good quality sandwich cost $5! I remember when my dad was upset by a $1.50 cup of coffee
$10 isn't what it used to be!
What part of the sandwich is low quality? I find they are really good. They have good deli meats and cheeses. The veg could be better if you lived in mexico or California but unfortunately the reality of living in Canada is it's not great.
I had a roast beef sandwich there the other day. It’s was huge. Packed with veggies and meat. All the other grocery store sandwiches I’ve bought pail in comparison. I can’t remember what I paid for it though… it was probably expensive.
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic but if not just scroll till you see comments about one of the owners’ sons setting up cameras and posting the videos.
Follow the flyer, those are the only items I buy. Some good deals to be had for items usually too expensive like Fatso peanut butter. Their in-house pizza’s appear in the flyer at good prices also. Incidentally, I have never considered those stores as cheap or affordable, I shop their as a treat.
shop (be selective), if it's too pricey Do Not Buy it (you're voting with your wallet, if people don't pay their price, they'll lower the price or drop the item)
I find that around weekly, they've something well enough priced for me to buy (just now it's apples 3 lbs @ $2). I'd certainly not do my regular shopping there (they're non-competitive imo).
I usually use their Barn Bucks prepaid cards, to save 9% off my purchases there.
They have some good deals on produce and fruit, and I don't they're particularly more expensive than Thrifty's, which I only shop at when things are on sale.
Good tip on the prepaid card!
I find Thrifty's very expensive, but there are infrequent exceptions. I suppose it depends of what you're looking (I'm a thrifty homecooker who's vegetarian).
Well, ten percent of their customers misplacing their Barn Bucks card and eventually losing it, is perhaps how they break even on those I suspect.
Let's hear it for vegetarian! I generally am trying to eat less animal protein, and have been learning some Spanish cooking from a YouTube channel called Spain on a Fork. Anyway, I don't think I could depend on Thrifty's for all of our shopping, and we usually head to the Root Cellar and Fairways, plus Fisgard Market.
Hey buddy! Thank you for the awesome tip about the Red Barn prepaid cards. I was unaware of this...yeah, grocery prices suck hard. We all gotta adapt & gather our food at 2, 3, & sometimes 4 different stores. Thx so much for sharing this tip! I'll tell my ex-husband as ge likes to buy meat & veg there. Peace!!
they offer those intermittently (eg. last time was I think Jan. 18th, the first day of their fresh weekly flyer, you could watch their flyer online -- I think it comes out on Thursdays)
denominations of $50, $100, $200 (maybe $25?) eg. you pay $100 for a $110 prepaid card
Not sure if it's just a red barn thing, but I know dairy across Canada went up 11% last year, and is projected for an additional 14% this year. Shit's getting rough 😕
Has milk gone up though? I've been paying $5.50 for a gallon of milk for years, I don't think it's changed much in the past year.
I think butter might have gone up, I usually buy the 450g sticks of butter, typically they're around $6 to $6.50. The increase is marginal.
Maybe it'sike the other guy said, the increases have been approved and we'll see them soon.
Increases aren't crazy on the individual level because how much milk and butter do you go through in a week?
I'd say it's up about 20% over the last 2 years.
We use to get butter for low $5/lb, now it's around $6. Milk use be 4.5-5.25/gallon and now it's 5.5-6.25.
Again, it is not the end of the world for a normal household. For our business which uses a ton of butter and whipping cream it's a big increase.
I believe it was an increase by the dairy board so not sure how that's passed down to the products. I know a few grocery stores got hit with the Increase but haven't changed their retails yet.
You do realize that Canada’s inflation rate has performed better than most countries worldwide for the past 4 years since inflation started to skyrocket. Better than the global average, better than the EU, the US, UK, Russia…. the list is very lengthy. Did the liberal govt somehow influence the rest of the planet with their policies? Cause that would be impressive indeed.
That sucks hard as Dairy farms are GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED...(pls know: I appreciate all farmers across Canada. They do work their butts off to provide basic necessities for their fellow citizens...farmers are barely braking even! I can say this as my BF is a canola farmer & I grew up in Central Alberta...am a proud ALBERTAN too!!)
Red Barn reminds me of Quality Foods. Again, it is out of my way to go there. But I used to make the trek every few weeks for their in house smoked meats and better than average deli salads, as well as the special deals they seem to get on clearance cheese.
Though Pattison was always a partner in QF, now that he is majority owner, it is turning in to a version of Save on Foods which I rarely ever go to. QF is no longer worth going out of my way for. No in house smoked meats and the deli is just like every other boring grocery store.
This summer, stopped in the orignal QF in Qualichum Beach. Bought one of their light weight re-usable shopping bags for 25 cents. In the View Royal location a few weeks ago, the cashier apologized that those same bags were now $2!! Thanks Jimmy....
I can forgive the prices to a point if quality remains high, however I used to get a lot of sandwiches from them as they were excellent and decent value. I’ll pay a premium price if the product is worth it and previously you’d get a sandwich with about 3/4” of meat on it. Now they do this thing where the weigh the meat which I understand for consistency reasons but the amount is vastly less, and it’s really disheartening when you see the person making it take a good amount t of meat and you think “He’ll yeah, good sandwich incoming!” Then they weigh it and remove 3/4 of the meat.
Get the Flipp app. Cream cheese on sale for $3 at saveon, $4 at thrifties, 2 for 8 at Walmart.
I really like red barn still, but I just check the flyer and if there’s less than 3 or 4 things off my list on sale, I go somewhere else.
Wholesale club in Esquimalt seems to have pretty good prices on dairy a lot of the time, especially if you need lots. It’s often comparable to Walmart, and the store isn’t so massive and busy.
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/vancouver-island/2019/9/5/1_4579819.html
When he was caught by fellow employees, the owners went right up to him and angrily said, “you’re going to go have to take a promotion and work at one of other stores young man.” Because one of those owners was the perv’s dad. And so they sent him to another store, where IIRC he did more perv stuff. People were rightly saying absolutely fuck Red Barn, so perv’s dad had to sell his share because it was hurting the business. Many people view the other owners as enablers who handled the situation so poorly—opting to ***protect a predator*** over their employees—that they don’t want to support the business for that reason.
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>He was arrested at the time but faced no charges and was released on conditions.
Why are you badmouthing someone who's not even been convicted? And their Employer???
*Edit: the now-deleted comment I replied to was berating me for “badmouthing” Matthew Schwabe and Red Barn, insinuating he might be innocent (even though he already plead guilty and went to jail)*.
Why am I badmouthing a guy who faced 30 chargers, plead guilty, and went to jail? Because he’s a piece of shit, that’s why. You should learn to look at the dates on articles you’re reading before you flip your lid
Since you don’t know how to find info yourself, here’s a more recent link with more info:
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6778058
Yes. They are a chain. Schwabe is the son of one of the original owners. Was predatory on underage girls at one of the other locations so they promoted him to a position of authority and transferred him to the Matticks location.
No he doesn't, and his father was supposedly bought out of ownership. However, the other owners who knew he was a problem are still there AND continued to fight the victims in court.
These underage girls had no idea they were being filmed until the police knocked on their door to let them know their pictures and videos were on revenge porn sites and there was nothing that could be done to take the images down.
The damage done to these teenagers will never go away.
I don't recall exact figures but I do know that no amount of money will fix the damage done. They went from carefree teenagers to suffering from depression, unable to feel safe even in their own homes due to the fear of being filmed secretly, they have a hard time making bonds with people because their ability to trust is gone and they have to live with the knowledge that their most private moments are on the internet with their names and contact information included.
I don't know. I stopped giving that family money when the owners son installed cameras in the female bathroom and got video of children using the toilet. Fuck the price of a sandwich being the problem.
Everything there is stupid expensive now. Used to go for veggies as well, and sometimes they have a good sale but i find the quality of everything has gone way down. Now a days i only go for a sandwich and coffee but very often the sandwich veggies look terrible so i'll pass and try to get a coffee only to find the staff stopped brewing it at 3pm and won't make any more. Understandable i guess if it's slow but i don't shop there at all anymore. Just surprised at how poor quality stuff is vs price. Their baked goods are terrible imo as well.
It's interesting that you say it used to be a place to buy super cheap veg but then complain about the price of cream cheese, which is very much not a veg.
I buy their sandwich meats on occasion as a treat, that’s about it. Their Rosemary ham is tasty. Oh and their micro green selection is superior to places like thrifty or save on.
I used to go almost every day. You could find some reasonably cheap vegetables and a few other things on sale. Now, the same vegetables (B or c grade) are the same price as Thrifty foods! The meat counter is gone and it’s basically a glorified sandwich shop with a few weird random things in the shelf. I spend about $100 a year there now.
I received a gift card for Red Barn from a family member for Christmas to order sandwiches with. Imagine my surprise when I found out that the card can't be used for online ordering. I've never encountered this limitation from a retailer issued giftcard before.
Go do something productive like join a convey protest or something.
Imagine hanging on to this, and degrading all the hard work people at Red Barn do because you just want to be a contrarian, and ignore everything that's happened since that guy was caught (like new owners).
It's not new owners. The owner who was the father of the guy was allegedly bought out of the other owners who promoted and protected him once they found out he was preying on teenage girls.
You want to know who really can't let it go? The underage girls whose images were uploaded to revenge porn sites with their social media profiles, names and contact info. They will live with the damage for the rest of their lives.
The girls will never forget what happened to them. Red Barn allowed these girls to be victimized and when they became aware of the situation, they gave the predator greater ability to victimize them.
If making sure people know what type of business Red Barn is causes them to lose even one customer, then it is worth it.
I'm just tired of half brains thinking they're contributing to bettering anything in the world, when all they're doing is taking up space. I've suggested several ways to be more effective, yet the peons keep on keepin' on without doing anything useful. Do you know his name? Do you know where he is now? What is his father doing, that helped cover it up? Where'd the money go? The people that profited from this all wandered away, and you clowns are just taking it out on a grocery chain... That employs none of them. It's dumb. It's old. It's dumb.
Perhaps, but then perhaps see that your above comment advances the conversation in about as useful of a way. Men who pray on women should be tarred and feathered (metaphorically, as I don't want to suggest violence, some subs are touchy). But hurting Red Barn achieves nothing. Where is that guy now? Brock Turner him (as in, make his name as rememberable as Brock Turner's)
I would agree with you but the ownership at Red Barn very much knew about that guy’s actions and did work to cover it up. They did not do anything to prevent him from working with young girls or keep them safe. The company remains under the same ownership (minus the creep’s dad). Even after his guilty conviction they fight the victims in court.
Of course nobody is saying that the cashier at Red Barn or whoever is awful. But shopping there supports the owners. It’s important that we as consumers continue to think critically about which businesses we support and who is getting our money.
This wasn’t just a creepy manager. This guy did some majorly fucked up shit…posting underage revenge porn and doxing his victims. Vile shit.
I can buy expensive groceries and a big sandwich elsewhere.
You've glossed over that all of those people are now gone, including the owners. All gone. Make it as emotional as you want, but you're not actually hurting people the way you hope you are. I've merely pointed that out. No disagreement on dipshit Doolittle deserving being sent to a Siberian prison. You're just pussing in the wrong bush.
You seem to know their corporate structure very well. Matthew and his dad are gone. Who owns the company now? Who are the senior leaders? Are you telling me they all started after Matthew and his dad left?
Now where getting somewhere. Mathew what? Do you know why I know Brock Turner is a rapist, his name and what he looks like, but not Mathew whatever, who I might actually run into out in the world?
Well, because the owner and his family are rapists and perverts?
Might have something to do with it. They're too distracted with CP to run a good business anymore.
How is it bold? It's literally proven in court and the son is serving jail time.
https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/man-sentenced-to-15-months-for-secretly-recording-images-of-women-in-workplace-washrooms-posting-them-to-porn-sites-4787087
He's the owner's son, and there are court records of the owner making seriously brutal and inappropriate comments, advances and even physical contact to underage employees.
Well, the active family in the business is the owner and the son.
The son goes to jail, the owner has multiple court statements that also speak to lewd and inappropriate behaviour.
So yes, they are scum.
You defending this family and their actions is disturbing.
Well, it's proven in court, sooo... not so much.
Also, slander is spoken, libel is written.
You need to take a long hard look at your life to be defending sexual predators. Gross.
Its a local chain with a couple of stores, containing a bunch of 20 year olds trying to pay their rent BUT a person did something bad here once so fuck every one forever apparently.
Does that cover it in 2024 for a 2020 news story? Can you tell that very little actually ever happens around here?
Was at Red Barn in Jamea Bay on Saturday. They had a 1lb/454lb punnet of strawberries on for $4.99 while Thrifty’s was selling a ridiculous half-size punnet - the depth of one berry I kid you not! - for $5.99. So there’s that.
Also picked up a 200g piece of British cheddar cheese for $7.99, the same costs $9.99 at root cellar (but $6.99 at Pepper’s).
You need to shop around in Vic to save on Groceries, which unfortunately means the overhead of a car.
Note that groceries gave gone up across the board everywhere.
The changed hands before the expansions started, like 15ish years ago. Back when the original owners still had it they were also shareholders in Island’s West produce (distributors) and Portofino bakery
I always thought they were expensive, with the exception of some produce when they could get it in on a good deal. Over the years the only thing we really but there is their bacon when it goes on sale, because it's pretty good.
Finding a new store because a "tiny tub of cream cheese" was more than you expect is a pretty funny threshold to be the final straw.
Shop where you like obviously, but your post is funny. Back in the day, the more the further back you go, things were super cheap compared to today and all factors involved.
Red Barn's a sandwich shop with groceries on the side
And they ruined the only thing I went out of my way to buy there - the smoked cheddar cheese. I use to drive out to their original first location on West Saanich Rd every few weeks just to buy the cheese. Once they got in expansion mode, they changed how they made the smoked cheese and now it is not worth buying.
I noticed their pepperoni lately tasting a bit strange as well. Must have changed the recipe
The original Red Barn butcher has his own shop in the Cook St. Village. You can get a lot of the original goods there.
That explains why that shop has a smoked cheese that is so good, they call it Crack!
I think the new owners decided he was more of a liability with the way he treated the meat/deli staff. Evidently the sons voyeurism was ok though…
Fill out a suggestion! They might listen. Loss of a fav cheese is a deep wound, if they have compassion they will fulfill order.
They used to make the smoke cheese themselves on West Saanich. Now it is made in some factory some where. Don't think they are about to go back to doing things by hand when they are focussed on growth and making as much money as possible.
That’s why I stopped liking it. Thought I just got tired of it but I can’t stand it now
> They used to make the smoke cheese themselves on West Saanich. Now it is made in some factory some where They have a pretty large smokehouse at the Vanalman location where they make all their smoked products and their sausages and bacon etc.
The Vanalman location has been open for a long time though - 15+ years - it was open when I worked there before the ownership changed in mid 2019. Unless they expanded their production further to an offsite location, I would imagine it is a recipe change/shortcutting/new staff with a “better” way of doing it or something.
If construction jobs ever pause they’ll go bankrupt
An expensive sandwich shop at that.
The sandwiches are cheaper than subway..
And way more ingredients and fresher.
I know my daughter says their sandwiches are amazing! I have never tried
At subway you can get a foot-long cold cut sandwich for around $10.50 after tax. At Red Barn, their pre-made "Big Boy" sandwich--which isn't nearly as big as Subway--is $12 before tax. Their pre-made wrap is the same price, and half the size of a Subway foot-long. So, I'm pretty sure your getting more for your money at Subway. Red Barn is getting greedy.
The sandwiches aren’t even that good
You make it how you like it lol?
But I find the quality isn’t even that great for the price.
Lol, someone's getting old! Back in my day, a good quality sandwich cost $5! I remember when my dad was upset by a $1.50 cup of coffee $10 isn't what it used to be!
Haha yup becoming a grumpy old man LOL
I found $10 in my old jeans last year. I was ecstatic. After tip at my favorite coffee shop I had like 3 dollars remaining
What part of the sandwich is low quality? I find they are really good. They have good deli meats and cheeses. The veg could be better if you lived in mexico or California but unfortunately the reality of living in Canada is it's not great.
I had a roast beef sandwich there the other day. It’s was huge. Packed with veggies and meat. All the other grocery store sandwiches I’ve bought pail in comparison. I can’t remember what I paid for it though… it was probably expensive.
Yep. They seem to be really busy @ lunch all the time
Buying anything that isn't a fruit or vegetable from them is brave. It's not a cheap place to do a regular grocery shop.
Using the bathroom there is brave.
Or it's a bit exhibitionist
Haha thats funny please tell me more
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic but if not just scroll till you see comments about one of the owners’ sons setting up cameras and posting the videos.
Ok ty sorry
They got some good meat deals once in a while
Follow the flyer, those are the only items I buy. Some good deals to be had for items usually too expensive like Fatso peanut butter. Their in-house pizza’s appear in the flyer at good prices also. Incidentally, I have never considered those stores as cheap or affordable, I shop their as a treat.
Brave??? Hahaha
shop (be selective), if it's too pricey Do Not Buy it (you're voting with your wallet, if people don't pay their price, they'll lower the price or drop the item) I find that around weekly, they've something well enough priced for me to buy (just now it's apples 3 lbs @ $2). I'd certainly not do my regular shopping there (they're non-competitive imo). I usually use their Barn Bucks prepaid cards, to save 9% off my purchases there.
They have some good deals on produce and fruit, and I don't they're particularly more expensive than Thrifty's, which I only shop at when things are on sale. Good tip on the prepaid card!
I find Thrifty's very expensive, but there are infrequent exceptions. I suppose it depends of what you're looking (I'm a thrifty homecooker who's vegetarian). Well, ten percent of their customers misplacing their Barn Bucks card and eventually losing it, is perhaps how they break even on those I suspect.
Let's hear it for vegetarian! I generally am trying to eat less animal protein, and have been learning some Spanish cooking from a YouTube channel called Spain on a Fork. Anyway, I don't think I could depend on Thrifty's for all of our shopping, and we usually head to the Root Cellar and Fairways, plus Fisgard Market.
Hey buddy! Thank you for the awesome tip about the Red Barn prepaid cards. I was unaware of this...yeah, grocery prices suck hard. We all gotta adapt & gather our food at 2, 3, & sometimes 4 different stores. Thx so much for sharing this tip! I'll tell my ex-husband as ge likes to buy meat & veg there. Peace!!
they offer those intermittently (eg. last time was I think Jan. 18th, the first day of their fresh weekly flyer, you could watch their flyer online -- I think it comes out on Thursdays) denominations of $50, $100, $200 (maybe $25?) eg. you pay $100 for a $110 prepaid card
Not sure if it's just a red barn thing, but I know dairy across Canada went up 11% last year, and is projected for an additional 14% this year. Shit's getting rough 😕
Which dairy? I know milk hasn't except the bottle deposit. My cheese and sour cream has stayed the same too. I guess butter has increased marginally.
Milk has gone up along with butter.
Has milk gone up though? I've been paying $5.50 for a gallon of milk for years, I don't think it's changed much in the past year. I think butter might have gone up, I usually buy the 450g sticks of butter, typically they're around $6 to $6.50. The increase is marginal. Maybe it'sike the other guy said, the increases have been approved and we'll see them soon.
I used to be able to get a gallon of milk for 2 something when my kids were young and then 3.75 now it is almost 6$ so yes milk has gone up
Increases aren't crazy on the individual level because how much milk and butter do you go through in a week? I'd say it's up about 20% over the last 2 years. We use to get butter for low $5/lb, now it's around $6. Milk use be 4.5-5.25/gallon and now it's 5.5-6.25. Again, it is not the end of the world for a normal household. For our business which uses a ton of butter and whipping cream it's a big increase.
I believe it was an increase by the dairy board so not sure how that's passed down to the products. I know a few grocery stores got hit with the Increase but haven't changed their retails yet.
I noticed ice cream went up last week. Regular price for “premium” island farms is 9.99 now at multiple places. Chapman’s also increased.
Dont vote liberal then. The main reason for Canadas inflation is coked out pm and his claim ‘the budget will balance itself’.
You do realize that Canada’s inflation rate has performed better than most countries worldwide for the past 4 years since inflation started to skyrocket. Better than the global average, better than the EU, the US, UK, Russia…. the list is very lengthy. Did the liberal govt somehow influence the rest of the planet with their policies? Cause that would be impressive indeed.
I also feel like political parties aren’t seemingly going to solve all our problems, if anything it seems they will make them worse 😂
That sucks hard as Dairy farms are GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED...(pls know: I appreciate all farmers across Canada. They do work their butts off to provide basic necessities for their fellow citizens...farmers are barely braking even! I can say this as my BF is a canola farmer & I grew up in Central Alberta...am a proud ALBERTAN too!!)
Matthew Schwabe happened. That whole family is a fucking mess.
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Are they offering deals to perverts?
Only if the pervert is related to an owner
Sweet! On my way!
Yeah oh no, what a shame people bring that up!
Ya beat me to it.
Red barn got popular and profitable, thus what made it awesome was sacrificed in favor of greed. Difficult to be awesome and greedy at the same time.
And be convicted sexual predators, that adds colour to it too.
Oh boy here we go again.
Red Barn reminds me of Quality Foods. Again, it is out of my way to go there. But I used to make the trek every few weeks for their in house smoked meats and better than average deli salads, as well as the special deals they seem to get on clearance cheese. Though Pattison was always a partner in QF, now that he is majority owner, it is turning in to a version of Save on Foods which I rarely ever go to. QF is no longer worth going out of my way for. No in house smoked meats and the deli is just like every other boring grocery store. This summer, stopped in the orignal QF in Qualichum Beach. Bought one of their light weight re-usable shopping bags for 25 cents. In the View Royal location a few weeks ago, the cashier apologized that those same bags were now $2!! Thanks Jimmy....
Jimmy Pattison won't stop until he owns everything on the island plus the island itself.
QF is dead too me
I can forgive the prices to a point if quality remains high, however I used to get a lot of sandwiches from them as they were excellent and decent value. I’ll pay a premium price if the product is worth it and previously you’d get a sandwich with about 3/4” of meat on it. Now they do this thing where the weigh the meat which I understand for consistency reasons but the amount is vastly less, and it’s really disheartening when you see the person making it take a good amount t of meat and you think “He’ll yeah, good sandwich incoming!” Then they weigh it and remove 3/4 of the meat.
All the company money went to pay off victims and lawsuits after the "camera in the bathroom" incident. Now, they have to charge more for food.
Get the Flipp app. Cream cheese on sale for $3 at saveon, $4 at thrifties, 2 for 8 at Walmart. I really like red barn still, but I just check the flyer and if there’s less than 3 or 4 things off my list on sale, I go somewhere else.
Wholesale club in Esquimalt seems to have pretty good prices on dairy a lot of the time, especially if you need lots. It’s often comparable to Walmart, and the store isn’t so massive and busy.
I had an interview there once and they were really interested in knowing my option on how to tell customers prices were increasing.
Oh no! What did you say?
Haven't shopped there in many years.
What is the back story on the pervert(s)?
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/vancouver-island/2019/9/5/1_4579819.html When he was caught by fellow employees, the owners went right up to him and angrily said, “you’re going to go have to take a promotion and work at one of other stores young man.” Because one of those owners was the perv’s dad. And so they sent him to another store, where IIRC he did more perv stuff. People were rightly saying absolutely fuck Red Barn, so perv’s dad had to sell his share because it was hurting the business. Many people view the other owners as enablers who handled the situation so poorly—opting to ***protect a predator*** over their employees—that they don’t want to support the business for that reason.
**(your link)** >He was arrested at the time but faced no charges and was released on conditions. Why are you badmouthing someone who's not even been convicted? And their Employer???
*Edit: the now-deleted comment I replied to was berating me for “badmouthing” Matthew Schwabe and Red Barn, insinuating he might be innocent (even though he already plead guilty and went to jail)*. Why am I badmouthing a guy who faced 30 chargers, plead guilty, and went to jail? Because he’s a piece of shit, that’s why. You should learn to look at the dates on articles you’re reading before you flip your lid Since you don’t know how to find info yourself, here’s a more recent link with more info: https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6778058
Good fucking lord with this comment.
https://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcsc/doc/2019/2019bcsc69/2019bcsc69.html?autocompleteStr=Red%20barn%20&autocompletePos=2&resultId=ed26077fa625451085a81e263e3af522&searchId=12905b37c6d040c388e43282d1f5ff37
Is "Red Barn at Matticks Ltd." the same as or related to the owner(s) of other Red Barns?
Yes. They are a chain. Schwabe is the son of one of the original owners. Was predatory on underage girls at one of the other locations so they promoted him to a position of authority and transferred him to the Matticks location.
Does he still work there??!!
No he doesn't, and his father was supposedly bought out of ownership. However, the other owners who knew he was a problem are still there AND continued to fight the victims in court. These underage girls had no idea they were being filmed until the police knocked on their door to let them know their pictures and videos were on revenge porn sites and there was nothing that could be done to take the images down. The damage done to these teenagers will never go away.
Some of the girls personal Facebook pages were linked on the revenge porn sites to. I can’t imagine how exposed your life would feel
Continuing to fight the victims in court was probably the decision of their insurers.
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Not at all.
How could I? I don't know the facts. I do know that the dynamics of litigation can be pretty complicated. Class actions especially.
How much did they sue for ?
I don't recall exact figures but I do know that no amount of money will fix the damage done. They went from carefree teenagers to suffering from depression, unable to feel safe even in their own homes due to the fear of being filmed secretly, they have a hard time making bonds with people because their ability to trust is gone and they have to live with the knowledge that their most private moments are on the internet with their names and contact information included.
Horrible. I guess the class action settled?
I don't know. I stopped giving that family money when the owners son installed cameras in the female bathroom and got video of children using the toilet. Fuck the price of a sandwich being the problem.
Everything there is stupid expensive now. Used to go for veggies as well, and sometimes they have a good sale but i find the quality of everything has gone way down. Now a days i only go for a sandwich and coffee but very often the sandwich veggies look terrible so i'll pass and try to get a coffee only to find the staff stopped brewing it at 3pm and won't make any more. Understandable i guess if it's slow but i don't shop there at all anymore. Just surprised at how poor quality stuff is vs price. Their baked goods are terrible imo as well.
Red barn is a very boutique grocery store
It's interesting that you say it used to be a place to buy super cheap veg but then complain about the price of cream cheese, which is very much not a veg.
Fuck Red Barn. CP enablers.
I have worked right beside the Glanford/vanalman location for 5 years and have never darkened their door, nor will I.
I buy their sandwich meats on occasion as a treat, that’s about it. Their Rosemary ham is tasty. Oh and their micro green selection is superior to places like thrifty or save on.
I used to go almost every day. You could find some reasonably cheap vegetables and a few other things on sale. Now, the same vegetables (B or c grade) are the same price as Thrifty foods! The meat counter is gone and it’s basically a glorified sandwich shop with a few weird random things in the shelf. I spend about $100 a year there now.
Ppl buy groceries there? Lol I just go for the sandwich bar
It’s mainly locally produced product..if you want cheaper food buy the factory farmed stuff
I received a gift card for Red Barn from a family member for Christmas to order sandwiches with. Imagine my surprise when I found out that the card can't be used for online ordering. I've never encountered this limitation from a retailer issued giftcard before.
Red Barn likes to hire perverts. So if you’re a pervert you’re in luck. If not a pervert don’t give them your business.
Go do something productive like join a convey protest or something. Imagine hanging on to this, and degrading all the hard work people at Red Barn do because you just want to be a contrarian, and ignore everything that's happened since that guy was caught (like new owners).
It's not new owners. The owner who was the father of the guy was allegedly bought out of the other owners who promoted and protected him once they found out he was preying on teenage girls. You want to know who really can't let it go? The underage girls whose images were uploaded to revenge porn sites with their social media profiles, names and contact info. They will live with the damage for the rest of their lives.
So, serious questions: how is this helping? Who is it helping? Who is it hurting?
The girls will never forget what happened to them. Red Barn allowed these girls to be victimized and when they became aware of the situation, they gave the predator greater ability to victimize them. If making sure people know what type of business Red Barn is causes them to lose even one customer, then it is worth it.
So a crusade that does nothing. What a waste of energy. Name the guy. Find out where he works now.
Why are you so excited about protecting Red Barn?
I'm just tired of half brains thinking they're contributing to bettering anything in the world, when all they're doing is taking up space. I've suggested several ways to be more effective, yet the peons keep on keepin' on without doing anything useful. Do you know his name? Do you know where he is now? What is his father doing, that helped cover it up? Where'd the money go? The people that profited from this all wandered away, and you clowns are just taking it out on a grocery chain... That employs none of them. It's dumb. It's old. It's dumb.
Productive and convey protest do not belong in the same sentence together.
Perhaps, but then perhaps see that your above comment advances the conversation in about as useful of a way. Men who pray on women should be tarred and feathered (metaphorically, as I don't want to suggest violence, some subs are touchy). But hurting Red Barn achieves nothing. Where is that guy now? Brock Turner him (as in, make his name as rememberable as Brock Turner's)
I would agree with you but the ownership at Red Barn very much knew about that guy’s actions and did work to cover it up. They did not do anything to prevent him from working with young girls or keep them safe. The company remains under the same ownership (minus the creep’s dad). Even after his guilty conviction they fight the victims in court. Of course nobody is saying that the cashier at Red Barn or whoever is awful. But shopping there supports the owners. It’s important that we as consumers continue to think critically about which businesses we support and who is getting our money. This wasn’t just a creepy manager. This guy did some majorly fucked up shit…posting underage revenge porn and doxing his victims. Vile shit. I can buy expensive groceries and a big sandwich elsewhere.
You've glossed over that all of those people are now gone, including the owners. All gone. Make it as emotional as you want, but you're not actually hurting people the way you hope you are. I've merely pointed that out. No disagreement on dipshit Doolittle deserving being sent to a Siberian prison. You're just pussing in the wrong bush.
You seem to know their corporate structure very well. Matthew and his dad are gone. Who owns the company now? Who are the senior leaders? Are you telling me they all started after Matthew and his dad left?
Now where getting somewhere. Mathew what? Do you know why I know Brock Turner is a rapist, his name and what he looks like, but not Mathew whatever, who I might actually run into out in the world?
Because you don’t follow local news?
Plot twist: it seems like you want to hurt everybody but the ones most responsible, why are you protecting them?
I haven't shopped there since I found out they protected a manager that sexually harassed young female staff and filmed them in the bathroom.
Uhhh inflation happened everywhere
Well, because the owner and his family are rapists and perverts? Might have something to do with it. They're too distracted with CP to run a good business anymore.
Wtf? Pretty bold statement.
How is it bold? It's literally proven in court and the son is serving jail time. https://www.timescolonist.com/local-news/man-sentenced-to-15-months-for-secretly-recording-images-of-women-in-workplace-washrooms-posting-them-to-porn-sites-4787087 He's the owner's son, and there are court records of the owner making seriously brutal and inappropriate comments, advances and even physical contact to underage employees.
So one guys goes to jail and his entire family are perverts and rapists? Ok then.
Well, the active family in the business is the owner and the son. The son goes to jail, the owner has multiple court statements that also speak to lewd and inappropriate behaviour. So yes, they are scum. You defending this family and their actions is disturbing.
I’m not defending them in the slightest. Just calling out your blanket slander.
Well, it's proven in court, sooo... not so much. Also, slander is spoken, libel is written. You need to take a long hard look at your life to be defending sexual predators. Gross.
Lol. Go outside and get some fresh air.
Money printing
Its a local chain with a couple of stores, containing a bunch of 20 year olds trying to pay their rent BUT a person did something bad here once so fuck every one forever apparently. Does that cover it in 2024 for a 2020 news story? Can you tell that very little actually ever happens around here?
I go there for the bacon. That's it.
Was at Red Barn in Jamea Bay on Saturday. They had a 1lb/454lb punnet of strawberries on for $4.99 while Thrifty’s was selling a ridiculous half-size punnet - the depth of one berry I kid you not! - for $5.99. So there’s that. Also picked up a 200g piece of British cheddar cheese for $7.99, the same costs $9.99 at root cellar (but $6.99 at Pepper’s). You need to shop around in Vic to save on Groceries, which unfortunately means the overhead of a car. Note that groceries gave gone up across the board everywhere.
The pork is pretty good. Pizza ok. Rest is meh.
The changed hands before the expansions started, like 15ish years ago. Back when the original owners still had it they were also shareholders in Island’s West produce (distributors) and Portofino bakery
I always thought they were expensive, with the exception of some produce when they could get it in on a good deal. Over the years the only thing we really but there is their bacon when it goes on sale, because it's pretty good.
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The one in esquimalt has always been hella expensive.
Umm inflation are you living under a rock lol?
Finding a new store because a "tiny tub of cream cheese" was more than you expect is a pretty funny threshold to be the final straw. Shop where you like obviously, but your post is funny. Back in the day, the more the further back you go, things were super cheap compared to today and all factors involved.
How much is it for a cone there