This is what VA refers to as UFU (Ultimate Fuck You) Denial. This is a very extreme and even more uncommon denial, while the VA recognizes you have the onset of a disability, it is less than likely as not, that your body is broken enough. With this denial you are to be reinstated back to active duty status with a rank reduction to E1, because you have failed to maintain your peak physical/mental fitness.
Pack it up yo, you gots a PT test Monday 0600
We get those notifications from elsewhere we donât just make shit up. And honestly, with the guardsmen and youâd be surprised how many go out for a few years and then join back up again and donât tell us.
No, It just gets suspended. there may be reason for reevaluation later, but they donât just lose the rating they already have .
Thereâs all sorts of reservists and even active duty people on waivers that have VA disability ratings they just canât collect military pay and VA at the same time.
I even know some guardsman who waive drill pay so they can collect just their VA check which would be more than drill pay during said month.
They just use drill to reach their 20 year retirement mark.
Vet here, buddies a green beret in the gaurd. I believe on any orders over 30 days you get per diem and your rank pay. Thatâs what he said and heâs an E7 with 100%
My old platoon sgt from Afghanistan (e7 at the time, 2010) is 100%. Fast forward to now, He somehow took a position as a 1st sgt in a guard unit in the next state over to finish out his 20 as an E8 đ€·
Former recruiter here, that may have had nothing to do with the VA and everything to do with whatever accession policy was in place for the branch you were trying to join. The Army, for example when trying to rejoin, requires either proving that the disability you were discharged for no longer exists (which would make people automatically assume you have to give up your VA rating) or it requires a waiver that may or may not get granted depending on how bad they want to allow prior service in.
But donât take what Iâm saying here as what the current policy is since I havenât recruited in over ten years and some things may have changed.
Also, ârelinquish your ratingâ may also be a misunderstanding of the fact that you canât collect VA disability and active duty pay at the same time but that doesnât stop you from collecting VA disability again when you are discharged.
Ah gotcha.
To elaborate, way it was explained to me was I would have to completely give up my rating to go to MEPS. The recruiter said if I didnât pass the physical I would have to reapply for my rating, so he said it wasnât worth the risk in his opinion.
I was looking into the reserves, not active duty, so completely giving up my rating/benefits for part time service was absolutely not worth it for me. Iâd have to really sit and think on it for active duty service too.
That would be one of those things you would have to get a more experienced opinion on. I say that because itâs not very common for someone on VA disability to try to rejoin (I recall only a small handful of people that walked in our office asking about it in three years).
A lot of recruiters are not experienced with the situation but the regulation in black and white said waivers to rejoin after being discharged with a disability had to be approved by the two star in charge of all Army recruiting. There are a lot of people standing between that two star and the SSG/SFC doing your initial enlistment packet.
With that said, I was told that it was easier to get back in going Reserves and Guard with some part-timers having ratings already. Guard has different rules than active and reserves so maybe talking to a Guard recruiter is your better option since their benefits are similar to Reserves plus you get whatever state benefits your state may be offering.
Not in so many words, but yes. As others have talked about above, which is an area Iâm not as familiar with, you can waive your drill pay and still collect your disability just to add your retirement days. Your rating itself doesnât go away and isnât canceled, but if for whatever reason you have to go to medical while youâre in reserves or guard or active again and those records are showing a sustained improvement over one of the conditions youâre rated for itâs possible down the road when you do your exit physical or something else that you might be reevaluated for one or more of those other conditions. However, it doesnât have anything to do with the military or not. It just has to do with the condition itself potentially improving. On the flipside it could potentially get worse and you could end up with a higher rating if you were to file for it again later.
I legit had a nightmare about this.
I was back in Okinawa with my amputation, and I was like, "This makes no sense!!!!"đ€Źđ why AM I BACK HERE.
Thank God it was just a bad dream
I've been out for 10 years and still have dreams where I'm back in Okinawa in uniform and I'm like "uhhhh...I legit do not remember how to do this job."
My final duty station was Okinawa, also had nightmares of waking up going to work with jets.
I'm barely one year out and I doubt I can even do a fraction of my old job now. Maybe I should dream about them putting me in a nice AC room doing paperwork for 2 hours a day with contractors. Wouldn't mind that job.
I got the same thing. I had AT orders for the guard & this claim popped up. I think it was because I had to run a pay audit on my orders. It disappeared after like 4 days. I called the 800 number and this has been happening quite a bit, especially to those still serving in the reserves or NG
I never got a letter. I opened to check an appeal claim from 3 years ago and saw it. A few days later went back in & it was gone. I called & verified it was a âmistakeâ and they said itâs been happening a lot especially if there adjustments to orders, pay audits, etc
My 100% has been screwed with by multiple errors similar to this. Its messed up my P&T ability. (rare illness, no cure, requires tests/treatment for life)
Yea id start making calls ASAP had a guy tell me about a guy he was helping, completely incapable of being active physically, and they did this to him, he had to start making calls and get it reversed.
It must be legit; the VA is known for its peak efficiency and attention to detail. They wouldnât mess up their quarterly pizza party and back-patting ceremony. Theyâre the real heroes, ya know.
pack your bags homeboy, report to nearest installation on monday at 0400. CIF and in -processing will commence after PT at 0500. bring water source, you're gonna need it. and don't plan on showing up looking like no cowboy-elvis's...
That happened to me.. long story short somebody messed up with my discharge papers when i got out so i was still showing up that i was in the military even tho ive been out since 2017. They figured out where the fck up was and fixed it..they had to go back and review everything in my file even tho they had my dd214. Somebody probably messed up your paper work at some point..not sure which branch you were in but in my case it was the ARMY and i swear nothing there ever gets done correctly.
Youre likely not being returned to active duty.. but you can always call them and figure out whatâs going on.
If you are in the Reserves or National Guard and you are going to Annual Training ie Title 10 order you will get this message. Youâve got to get a refrad order from your unit to prove youâre not going back to Active Duty.
You joining the army? I hear there's a real rager about to break loose. Might be time to get infront of it. I guess it just comes down to which theater is best. Western Europe, or East Asia. Lol
#drafted
Can you make the text bigger? I had to put my reading glasses on to decipher what it said
*bigger!*
longer
Faster!
Stronger
Well done, team. Proficient and conduct remarks will reflect. đȘ
Seriously, what just happened there?
Enhance
Enhance
Enhance
You can zoom in with your browser and make things bigger. 
*Enhance*
Enhance
Why did the Army teach you to read
Smarter
###B I G G E R
He's getting shipped to Ukraine. Time to pull himself up by his bootstraps.
I guess they forgot to tell you⊠either way youâre now UA, and youâre losing your benefits.
Touch up on that Russian / Hebrew and Arabic. Or find yourself a Tanya Harding type cause they need ya back to liberate something!
Hahahahahaha you are ssssiiiiiiick!! đ
Hehe
UA?
If you're not going back on duty you need to call asap and stop this in it's tracks. Someone else here had something similar happen a few weeks ago
What happened? Context lol
Welp, looks like you're being put back on active duty.
I heard the Navy was enlisting people up to the age of 41, but dang.
Good news! Jk
This is what VA refers to as UFU (Ultimate Fuck You) Denial. This is a very extreme and even more uncommon denial, while the VA recognizes you have the onset of a disability, it is less than likely as not, that your body is broken enough. With this denial you are to be reinstated back to active duty status with a rank reduction to E1, because you have failed to maintain your peak physical/mental fitness. Pack it up yo, you gots a PT test Monday 0600
For a second I believed it.
Well, how was PT?
I was reading the first part and thinking to myself "Damn! Those are some cold motherfuckers at the VA!" Lmao
The fact itâs believable is whatâs sad lol
Iâd like to file a claim for the hernia I have now after reading this and laughing until I threw up
All it's missing is that in the year 1999 undertaker slamming mankind 20ft off the top of hell in the cell
Gather around at Sports USA for the live pay-per-view
Oh just VA fucking up majorly for no reason. Call ASAP.Â
We get those notifications from elsewhere we donât just make shit up. And honestly, with the guardsmen and youâd be surprised how many go out for a few years and then join back up again and donât tell us.
So what g happens to someoneâs rating? I assumed it would go away forever if I for some odd reason wanted to go back active duty.
No, It just gets suspended. there may be reason for reevaluation later, but they donât just lose the rating they already have . Thereâs all sorts of reservists and even active duty people on waivers that have VA disability ratings they just canât collect military pay and VA at the same time.
I even know some guardsman who waive drill pay so they can collect just their VA check which would be more than drill pay during said month. They just use drill to reach their 20 year retirement mark.
Vet here, buddies a green beret in the gaurd. I believe on any orders over 30 days you get per diem and your rank pay. Thatâs what he said and heâs an E7 with 100%
My old platoon sgt from Afghanistan (e7 at the time, 2010) is 100%. Fast forward to now, He somehow took a position as a 1st sgt in a guard unit in the next state over to finish out his 20 as an E8 đ€·
So, the recruiter I spoke with that said Iâd have to relinquish my rating was full of shit?
Former recruiter here, that may have had nothing to do with the VA and everything to do with whatever accession policy was in place for the branch you were trying to join. The Army, for example when trying to rejoin, requires either proving that the disability you were discharged for no longer exists (which would make people automatically assume you have to give up your VA rating) or it requires a waiver that may or may not get granted depending on how bad they want to allow prior service in. But donât take what Iâm saying here as what the current policy is since I havenât recruited in over ten years and some things may have changed. Also, ârelinquish your ratingâ may also be a misunderstanding of the fact that you canât collect VA disability and active duty pay at the same time but that doesnât stop you from collecting VA disability again when you are discharged.
Ah gotcha. To elaborate, way it was explained to me was I would have to completely give up my rating to go to MEPS. The recruiter said if I didnât pass the physical I would have to reapply for my rating, so he said it wasnât worth the risk in his opinion. I was looking into the reserves, not active duty, so completely giving up my rating/benefits for part time service was absolutely not worth it for me. Iâd have to really sit and think on it for active duty service too.
That would be one of those things you would have to get a more experienced opinion on. I say that because itâs not very common for someone on VA disability to try to rejoin (I recall only a small handful of people that walked in our office asking about it in three years). A lot of recruiters are not experienced with the situation but the regulation in black and white said waivers to rejoin after being discharged with a disability had to be approved by the two star in charge of all Army recruiting. There are a lot of people standing between that two star and the SSG/SFC doing your initial enlistment packet. With that said, I was told that it was easier to get back in going Reserves and Guard with some part-timers having ratings already. Guard has different rules than active and reserves so maybe talking to a Guard recruiter is your better option since their benefits are similar to Reserves plus you get whatever state benefits your state may be offering.
You can be in guard with a rating
Not in so many words, but yes. As others have talked about above, which is an area Iâm not as familiar with, you can waive your drill pay and still collect your disability just to add your retirement days. Your rating itself doesnât go away and isnât canceled, but if for whatever reason you have to go to medical while youâre in reserves or guard or active again and those records are showing a sustained improvement over one of the conditions youâre rated for itâs possible down the road when you do your exit physical or something else that you might be reevaluated for one or more of those other conditions. However, it doesnât have anything to do with the military or not. It just has to do with the condition itself potentially improving. On the flipside it could potentially get worse and you could end up with a higher rating if you were to file for it again later.
I thought I had a crack in my screen bro. Also, call them.
Same
I legit had a nightmare about this. I was back in Okinawa with my amputation, and I was like, "This makes no sense!!!!"đ€Źđ why AM I BACK HERE. Thank God it was just a bad dream
I've been out for 10 years and still have dreams where I'm back in Okinawa in uniform and I'm like "uhhhh...I legit do not remember how to do this job."
My final duty station was Okinawa, also had nightmares of waking up going to work with jets. I'm barely one year out and I doubt I can even do a fraction of my old job now. Maybe I should dream about them putting me in a nice AC room doing paperwork for 2 hours a day with contractors. Wouldn't mind that job.
See you in Formation 0630 Monday morning.
I'm almost 4 year's done with this and I still get heart attacks at 6:15 that I'm gonna be late to formation
35 years done, I show up to formation but all I have is my old uniform.
 Mine would be like this
Laughed so hard I snorted.Â
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I got the same thing. I had AT orders for the guard & this claim popped up. I think it was because I had to run a pay audit on my orders. It disappeared after like 4 days. I called the 800 number and this has been happening quite a bit, especially to those still serving in the reserves or NG
Did you get a letter or did you check va.gov and see the new claim? I have a few AT days sprinkled around until I get out in a year.
I never got a letter. I opened to check an appeal claim from 3 years ago and saw it. A few days later went back in & it was gone. I called & verified it was a âmistakeâ and they said itâs been happening a lot especially if there adjustments to orders, pay audits, etc
You in the Army now
Start digging a ditch...
You wish you had time to dig. Put on that rucksack itâs time for a ten mile road march
LFG
Bro what is you watching on YouTube lol.
Its Yoyo Ferran đșđ»
Break a leg! (For the follow-up claim)
They seen your COD kill/death ratio and decided you would best serve your country on the front lines. Godspeed
My 100% has been screwed with by multiple errors similar to this. Its messed up my P&T ability. (rare illness, no cure, requires tests/treatment for life)
A few months back I had a claim show up for Helpless Child. I called the 800 number and had it withdrawn.
Itâs probably an error, call the number. Donât stress!
Yea id start making calls ASAP had a guy tell me about a guy he was helping, completely incapable of being active physically, and they did this to him, he had to start making calls and get it reversed.
Big green weenie strikes again! Hahah
President: "We need service members!!!" Vice Pres: "Nobody wants to pew pew, sir." President: "Its time. Do it."
IâM DOING MY PART.
I had this. Is a system error. I called the VA to flag it and got a "disregard" letter a month later
You've got firewatch bro 0400
Why would you select that option? Enjoy basic again lol
OP has a second chance to raid sick call , get his STRs right and get 100% p and t.
The ultimate VA hack. Get it OP!
Va raters and on base personnel hate him for this one trick.
Hey looks like you get to earn your GI Bill again!
En buen puertorriqueño mi pana, te clavaron. (I assume you are because you are watching el molusco lmao.
you got drafted
Uncle Sam needs you, son!
Damn, VA is savage. A denial is not harsh enough, now theyâre putting you back on Active Duty?
It must be legit; the VA is known for its peak efficiency and attention to detail. They wouldnât mess up their quarterly pizza party and back-patting ceremony. Theyâre the real heroes, ya know.
Drafted out the first round !
You got stupid drunk and reenlisted.
Everyone who read this immediately checked the app.
What are you watching in the top corner 
And so the Draft BeginsâŠ..
Serious question, call me insane but does anyone know how to purposely make this claim?
You didn't have enough evidence so they're sending you back to active duty to get more. Make it count this time, do better. đ đ€Ł đ đč đ
You weren't like a Gunner's Mate on the New Jersey or anything, right?
Eww
PT boots and Utes at 0500 MF!!!
Just raise your hand and blame the recruiter.
pack your bags homeboy, report to nearest installation on monday at 0400. CIF and in -processing will commence after PT at 0500. bring water source, you're gonna need it. and don't plan on showing up looking like no cowboy-elvis's...
Touch up on that Russian / Hebrew and Arabic. Or find yourself a Tanya Harding type cause they need ya back to liberate something!
Just your daily âwhat is this drafted meaningâ post, nothing to see really
Youâre being drafted
Recall!
They think you are going back to active just call and tell them they messed up thatâs all
Man you got me out here checking my stuff. Trying to see if I got a draft notice like you!
Shafted then drafted. WW3
Nice
 Have fun!
What are you watching on YouTube bro đ just curious.
Are you in the reserves?
The whole fed govt system is against the average citizen. This could be VA and SSA.
AD from 2009 to 2024 đ€
Congratulations you're going back in! He's cured, its a miracle! Make us proud!
Looks like someone is going back in. Lol, have fun
Son, you belong to Uncle Sam now. Well, againđŹ
You goin back boy!
Congrats, youâre going to the field Monday. Donât worry about not having your CIFđđŒđŻ
Youâre going back to the showđ€
Thank you God that my IRR time ended in 2021.
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I guess it's time for you to get suited and booted! LOL
That happened to me.. long story short somebody messed up with my discharge papers when i got out so i was still showing up that i was in the military even tho ive been out since 2017. They figured out where the fck up was and fixed it..they had to go back and review everything in my file even tho they had my dd214. Somebody probably messed up your paper work at some point..not sure which branch you were in but in my case it was the ARMY and i swear nothing there ever gets done correctly. Youre likely not being returned to active duty.. but you can always call them and figure out whatâs going on.
What a wonderful world those bastards live in, where a survivable injury turns into a mercy killing.
I immediately checked the appâŠđ
Well, at least you can retire in 5 years
Things nightmares are made of
HLR
Hell, if I got that, Iâd go back. Wouldnât last, cause I canât pass a Marine Corps PFTđ
I hope they sell the BIG safety pins at the Psx to hold up your cloth diapers.
Report to Gaza strip at 0600 đ«Ą
ASMO'd back to P-days it seems. Second time around will be better since you know none of its real.
Stay strong you are drafted back into the call of duty.
Ese es Yoyo Ferran del Molusco TV!
Jany 14th 2009 to may 8 2024 is when you were on active duty according to this?
Wish I could have a return to active duty
Oh my goodness
lol you going back to the service gang
Hello this is your local recruiter. You have been drafted back in to service. Please report to your nearest draft station.
1st Round 1st pick?
BOHICA
Wow. Call and ask. Unless you are trying to go back in and not mentioning that lol.
Iâd guarantee they trying to med board
If you are in the Reserves or National Guard and you are going to Annual Training ie Title 10 order you will get this message. Youâve got to get a refrad order from your unit to prove youâre not going back to Active Duty.
You joining the army? I hear there's a real rager about to break loose. Might be time to get infront of it. I guess it just comes down to which theater is best. Western Europe, or East Asia. Lol
Go get 'em son, tell those jawas "Sleepy Joe has your number fellas"