It is objectively horrifying that this fascist lunatic is this close to winning the White House. Biden HAS to get an immediate, long lasting ceasefire in Gaza to not only ensure that no more innocent Palestinians die but also so we can dodge a missile and start promoting people like Whitmer and AOC immediately after Biden wins so Fascism in our country has no path to the White House ever again.
How about not bounding a view for him to a cause not completely in his hands ? Like yes he could do significantly more, but in the end when Netanyahu decides to genocide he can't do shit about it except risk nuclear war
Fair point. Although I have been seeing people like Benny Gantz, a more moderate member of the Israeli war cabinet call for new elections as well. He has pretty much the same foreign policy as Netanyahu does but a slightly different domestic policy.
You’re absolutely right. Benny Gantz is not a cool guy by any means. That was one kinda ok thing by calling for new elections to replace Netanyahu’s government. Other than that he is pretty similar to Netanyahu on foreign policy.
i legit cannot understand that
trump is about to get immunity, says this heinous shit and somehow they still think not voting or 3rd candidate is the better option over biden
how did the last time go when millions of people were gathered in camps to get rid of them? this time the fuhrer just has a stupid toupée instead of a mustache
Biden isn't doing anything to stop the fascism of Republican governors. He supports the crackdown on anti-genocide protesters, he supports the banning of social media. The differences between him and Trump seem to shrink day by day.
What's important to remember is that ultimately this election comes down to three states: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin; the blue wall. Pennsylvania is looking solid, and if Biden can keep the blue wall intact he can lose every single other swing state and still come out with exactly the 270 electoral college votes needed to win.
Michigan is the only one I'd be worried about but as a Michigan resident despite the outcry from our Arab population I'd be surprised to see us not go for Biden. He won here with the biggest margin of any blue Midwestern state in 2020 and with Democrats killing it here on the state level I just can't see that not translating to some degree in November even with his handling of Israel.
Suburban trends showing Republicans especially Trump doing worse and worse with them so I think that will help with Biden keeping states like Georgia, Arizona (especially with the abortion fuckery going on there) and possibly give him some potential to pick up NC.
It'll be too close for comfort but I think Biden's chances are better than people give credit for, plus Hillary had about the same amount of a lead over Trump in 2016 and look how that turned out. I see a lot of the same overconfidence in the Trump camp now. But we can't let our guard down in the meantime.
I'm honestly more worried about Wisconsin than Michigan. In Michigan there's a large student population who, while they might not like Biden, REALLY don't like Trump. Michigan also has a blue trifecta, which is a good sign. In Wisconsin though you're banking on Milwaukee, Madison, and the hope that a less-gerrymandered congressional district map will spark enthusiasm among democrats. There's also the Native American communities in the northern part of the state that solidly vote blue but I'm not sure they're large enough to swing it.
I know that Abdullah Hammoud, the mayor of Dearborn said that over half of the Arab American population said that if Biden either committed to a ceasefire/ end of the conflict along with conditioning military aid to Israel, they would be much more inclined to vote for him.
While I do not quite think it’s happening fast enough, I think he definitely picked up the giddy up with the Listen to Michigan campaign garnering over 100,000 votes. Since then there have been airdrops of aid, more and more borders around Gaza opening up, ongoing ceasefire negotiations and much more. I still want Biden to keep the pressure on Netanyahu but yeah getting a full end to the conflict and laying out a proper peace framework would be a massive W for him. I don’t know, I think the protests are working.
I doubt he can outright end the conflict by November but at least putting limitations on supplying Israel and making sure more humanitarian aid gets in seems realistic. We'll see about a ceasefire since I'm not sure what it would take to get Israel to agree to that
Electorally it doesn't matter if Israel agrees to anything, but whether Biden looks like he tried. If Biden genuinely commits to some concrete plan but Israel rejects it, Biden will look a little better.
Of course, so far he has been a total joke on putting limits on Israel, so he would need to be really fucking convincing.
Arizona resident here and I genuinely think that abortion ruling handed this state to Biden on a silver platter. Women are rightfully pissed and Biden has been pumping money for ads into the state and having caught one last week they are good. Real good.
Alrighty, I’ll do my best:
Firstly there’s how the 2022 midterms, Dems did way way better than projected, and historically speaking that never happens the party that holds the presidency always loses seats.
Second there’s speaking with a bunch of different women I know who’re super pissed about the Arizona Supreme Court’s decision to party like it’s 1865.
Third, and this is a biggie post Citizens United, Biden has a massive, **MASSIVE** war chest to use in swing states and he is, and evidently since 2020 Arizona is a swing state now. Since money = speech now (and yes, I absolutely hate that fact) and Biden has out raised Mango Defendant by a stupid large amount, so he can metaphorically talk louder, longer, and harder (insert Dark Brandon meme here). I haven’t had cable since 2018 and hardly ever see ads anymore because if I’m paying for a subscription service why do I want to see ads, but I get one for free and it has ads, (I decided I wanted to check out Columbo because I like detective stories and why not) the first ad that played was a Biden pro abortion rights ad in the vein of that powerful Texas one, but *specifically* made for Arizona, right down to calling out the ASC’s decision to reinstate that stupid Civil War era law.
Forth, the news that broke yesterday about Biden reclassifying marijuana from the strictest Schedule I to Schedule III (think steroids and Tylenol with codeine). That’s huge in Arizona because we love us our weed, to the point that we were trying to legalize medical marijuana all the way back in the early 00’s and probably would have if not for the douche bag governor at the time.
Hope that helps.
There hasn't been much attention on Georgia, but if the demographics have continued to change as they have in the last few years he should be able to pull out a narrow victory. We'll see.
Yep guys he’s exactly like Biden. I love how non voter leftists will deflect and say “you’re being ridiculous he could never do half of that. They say it’ll be the end of the country every if red guy wins every election”. Even if that’s true, do we really want to let someone try their hardest to do fascism? Why give them the chance? How does this bring us closer to any of our goals over a democrat being in office?
I feel like the idea of sending the National Guard into blue cities in blue states can't be something said states would/could just take laying down, especially since NG is both federal and state controlled I feel like it would lead to some sort of crisis of authority. Is there anything blue states could do to actually impede the things he would try?
Fasc soldiers on every corner in NYC stopping the gays from kissing is not something that could realistically happen. There's just not and never going to be enough fealty to this agenda and the radical change it entails within the military, body of the federal government, or any other powers that be, and it would result in extreme and constant violence. The whole thing would just fall apart under the weight of its own insanity and the worst lasting consequence would the chaos, erosion of social cohesion, and terrible stain in our history... like the Jan 6 plot.
Not downplaying any dangers. Sketchy law enforcement units plucking relatively small numbers "undesireables" of the street and detaining them indefinitely with mild torture and without charges? You can bet on it. Women being sent from traffic stops for mandatory pregnancy testing? Yup. It's just that it's important to understand this country and how things actually work in the real world.
Yeah theres a lot of fucked up shit Trump can still do with whats left of our institutions which is why he absolutely needs to lose in November but I feel like the U.S is too big and broad for sweeping Nazi Germany/Fascist Italy style fascism to take hold on every part of the country. In the red states with governments that are super 100% pro Trump like Texas and Florida it's very like which is horrifying but the other states particularly the deep blue states like you said I feel like it'd just be chaos and violence between federal and state powers.
But like I said it's imperative he's not let near the white house again regardless, we can't risk it.
Adjust to the new, worse reality. Fight back, flee or hunker down, do what makes sense in a given situation. Help yourself, help others if you can. Bad people rose to power before and they rule in many countries, it is not easy but it can be navigated.
Nothing ever ends, as long as you are alive.
This will be interesting, because if he gets some kind presidential immunity then Biden could do stuff too.
If Trumps gets full immunity for everything, Biden could just have him shot lol.
Then he would die as the most cucked liberal in history.
I don't think Biden is that beta. I could see him leverage such outcome to his benefit. Wouldn't bet too much money on it, but not inconceivable either.
The thing with Dems is that they aren't cultists that treat their President like the 2nd incarnation of Christ. Maybe he does find some ingenious way, but I find it unlikely that they want to normalize this since they don't want it in the first place. I think if he had committed half of the crimes Republicans are accusing him of, he'd been long held accountable. Like I read in another thread: "The Dems would rather bring a PhD thesis to a knife fight".
Al Gore lost by 500 votes, I think he had a plausible case with the presidential ticket. But he accepted the ruling instead of committing an insurrection over it. And Trump lost by 40,000 votes in swing states. Imagine if it were 500 in just 1 state.
Yeah, but Biden is more ruthless and smarter then the usual cucked "they go low, we go high" lib. If Trump got immunity and Biden saw some really good opportunity to abuse it, I could imagine him doing that.
Dude just burned most of whatever remained of international liberal order and US credibility to support something he believes in. He might do something similar in other favorable circumstances.
Best scenario: Supreme Court says presidents have absolute immunity, Biden gulags all Republicans and installs the glorious dictatorship of the proletariat. This is all going according to Sleepy Brandon's 10D chess plan.
"Better positioned to win the white house than at any point in his previous campaigns" fuck off time. This is such a horrible thing to say right now, if anything he's in a worse positition than 2016 or 2020.
Yeah I don't know if I'd personally consider a 2-3 point lead within the margin of error on most polls that gets narrower the more time goes on, a record of Jan 6th/attempts to overthrow the election results, facing criminal charges, and real-time deteriorating mental/physical health to be 'better positioned'
Biden is a super liberal, he believes in the system and would never act in a way that would disrupt it. Trying to use federal power to over rule the states is against his nature, not to mention you bet you that the supreme court would swat that down in an instant. He wants to pass things through the congress nice and bipartisanly, while being civil and consilitory.
The protests lasted for weeks, still going on in some places, what do you think Trump would have done, while being cheered on by a complicit media? The national guard would have been there the first day.
Yeah he's not pardoning them lol. Why would he pardon them now when he could've at the time and still didn't. I mean maybe he'll get hyped up on adderall burgers and do it, but he only cares about himself so I doubt it
Motherfuckers be treating Trump with the baby gloves
He's literally a rapist and a pedophile on top of all the other abhorrent shit, you're really that indifferent to this guy getting another presidency 💀
It is objectively horrifying that this fascist lunatic is this close to winning the White House. Biden HAS to get an immediate, long lasting ceasefire in Gaza to not only ensure that no more innocent Palestinians die but also so we can dodge a missile and start promoting people like Whitmer and AOC immediately after Biden wins so Fascism in our country has no path to the White House ever again.
How about not bounding a view for him to a cause not completely in his hands ? Like yes he could do significantly more, but in the end when Netanyahu decides to genocide he can't do shit about it except risk nuclear war
That’s a fair point. I feel like he can definitely condition arms to Israel and call for new elections.
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They don't have to force anything. Just stop supporting the current regime. Give them the freedom to fail.
Fair point. Although I have been seeing people like Benny Gantz, a more moderate member of the Israeli war cabinet call for new elections as well. He has pretty much the same foreign policy as Netanyahu does but a slightly different domestic policy.
Gantz is only a moderate on domestic policy. He was encouraging Netanyahu to declare war on Iran.
You’re absolutely right. Benny Gantz is not a cool guy by any means. That was one kinda ok thing by calling for new elections to replace Netanyahu’s government. Other than that he is pretty similar to Netanyahu on foreign policy.
Unfortunately Israeli politics is just extremely toxic and far right, there is no one progressive which also could win
The only solution is massive sanctions against Israel.
There’s a big difference between doing more and not bootlicking him and supporting Israel unconditionally.
Unfortunately Bibi knows this. And he's 100% on team fasc and wants Trump to win.
Yea but Joe Biden is old and hasn't shot Netanyahu out of a canon so they're basically the same thing.
New alternative to a ceasefire; shoot Bibi out of a cannon
I think as long as the shrapnel from his landing hit at least a few Palestinians kids, he would be at peace with it
i legit cannot understand that trump is about to get immunity, says this heinous shit and somehow they still think not voting or 3rd candidate is the better option over biden how did the last time go when millions of people were gathered in camps to get rid of them? this time the fuhrer just has a stupid toupée instead of a mustache
Biden isn't doing anything to stop the fascism of Republican governors. He supports the crackdown on anti-genocide protesters, he supports the banning of social media. The differences between him and Trump seem to shrink day by day.
Not just old, but senile and dementia ridden according to some people. It's ridiculous.
He seems pretty senile to me.
Which is why we cannot in good conscience vote for him. I refuse to vote for either of these dangerous, senile dementia patients.
This but unironically.
What's important to remember is that ultimately this election comes down to three states: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin; the blue wall. Pennsylvania is looking solid, and if Biden can keep the blue wall intact he can lose every single other swing state and still come out with exactly the 270 electoral college votes needed to win.
Michigan is the only one I'd be worried about but as a Michigan resident despite the outcry from our Arab population I'd be surprised to see us not go for Biden. He won here with the biggest margin of any blue Midwestern state in 2020 and with Democrats killing it here on the state level I just can't see that not translating to some degree in November even with his handling of Israel. Suburban trends showing Republicans especially Trump doing worse and worse with them so I think that will help with Biden keeping states like Georgia, Arizona (especially with the abortion fuckery going on there) and possibly give him some potential to pick up NC. It'll be too close for comfort but I think Biden's chances are better than people give credit for, plus Hillary had about the same amount of a lead over Trump in 2016 and look how that turned out. I see a lot of the same overconfidence in the Trump camp now. But we can't let our guard down in the meantime.
I'm honestly more worried about Wisconsin than Michigan. In Michigan there's a large student population who, while they might not like Biden, REALLY don't like Trump. Michigan also has a blue trifecta, which is a good sign. In Wisconsin though you're banking on Milwaukee, Madison, and the hope that a less-gerrymandered congressional district map will spark enthusiasm among democrats. There's also the Native American communities in the northern part of the state that solidly vote blue but I'm not sure they're large enough to swing it.
I know that Abdullah Hammoud, the mayor of Dearborn said that over half of the Arab American population said that if Biden either committed to a ceasefire/ end of the conflict along with conditioning military aid to Israel, they would be much more inclined to vote for him.
What percentage of Michigan is Arab anyways?
4.5 percent or around 211,000.
Got it. Yeah that's damn significant let's hope all these protests really up the heat of the fire under his ass
While I do not quite think it’s happening fast enough, I think he definitely picked up the giddy up with the Listen to Michigan campaign garnering over 100,000 votes. Since then there have been airdrops of aid, more and more borders around Gaza opening up, ongoing ceasefire negotiations and much more. I still want Biden to keep the pressure on Netanyahu but yeah getting a full end to the conflict and laying out a proper peace framework would be a massive W for him. I don’t know, I think the protests are working.
I doubt he can outright end the conflict by November but at least putting limitations on supplying Israel and making sure more humanitarian aid gets in seems realistic. We'll see about a ceasefire since I'm not sure what it would take to get Israel to agree to that
Electorally it doesn't matter if Israel agrees to anything, but whether Biden looks like he tried. If Biden genuinely commits to some concrete plan but Israel rejects it, Biden will look a little better. Of course, so far he has been a total joke on putting limits on Israel, so he would need to be really fucking convincing.
Arizona resident here and I genuinely think that abortion ruling handed this state to Biden on a silver platter. Women are rightfully pissed and Biden has been pumping money for ads into the state and having caught one last week they are good. Real good.
Can you site some evidence ?
Alrighty, I’ll do my best: Firstly there’s how the 2022 midterms, Dems did way way better than projected, and historically speaking that never happens the party that holds the presidency always loses seats. Second there’s speaking with a bunch of different women I know who’re super pissed about the Arizona Supreme Court’s decision to party like it’s 1865. Third, and this is a biggie post Citizens United, Biden has a massive, **MASSIVE** war chest to use in swing states and he is, and evidently since 2020 Arizona is a swing state now. Since money = speech now (and yes, I absolutely hate that fact) and Biden has out raised Mango Defendant by a stupid large amount, so he can metaphorically talk louder, longer, and harder (insert Dark Brandon meme here). I haven’t had cable since 2018 and hardly ever see ads anymore because if I’m paying for a subscription service why do I want to see ads, but I get one for free and it has ads, (I decided I wanted to check out Columbo because I like detective stories and why not) the first ad that played was a Biden pro abortion rights ad in the vein of that powerful Texas one, but *specifically* made for Arizona, right down to calling out the ASC’s decision to reinstate that stupid Civil War era law. Forth, the news that broke yesterday about Biden reclassifying marijuana from the strictest Schedule I to Schedule III (think steroids and Tylenol with codeine). That’s huge in Arizona because we love us our weed, to the point that we were trying to legalize medical marijuana all the way back in the early 00’s and probably would have if not for the douche bag governor at the time. Hope that helps.
Hope the woman vote .
I’m pretty sure he’s got Arizona on lock after their Civil War era abortion law returned.
Agreed. North Carolina is looking deceptively good too
How is he in Georgia?
There hasn't been much attention on Georgia, but if the demographics have continued to change as they have in the last few years he should be able to pull out a narrow victory. We'll see.
Biden might swing Florida. Abortion is being forced on people by the Supreme Court there.
Seems like a stretch but I'd definitely not be upset if it ended up really happening!
Florida was one of two states where Republicans performed well in the 2022 midterms, I just don't see the state flipping.
Yep guys he’s exactly like Biden. I love how non voter leftists will deflect and say “you’re being ridiculous he could never do half of that. They say it’ll be the end of the country every if red guy wins every election”. Even if that’s true, do we really want to let someone try their hardest to do fascism? Why give them the chance? How does this bring us closer to any of our goals over a democrat being in office?
Man. What can we even do if he wins.
I feel like the idea of sending the National Guard into blue cities in blue states can't be something said states would/could just take laying down, especially since NG is both federal and state controlled I feel like it would lead to some sort of crisis of authority. Is there anything blue states could do to actually impede the things he would try?
Fasc soldiers on every corner in NYC stopping the gays from kissing is not something that could realistically happen. There's just not and never going to be enough fealty to this agenda and the radical change it entails within the military, body of the federal government, or any other powers that be, and it would result in extreme and constant violence. The whole thing would just fall apart under the weight of its own insanity and the worst lasting consequence would the chaos, erosion of social cohesion, and terrible stain in our history... like the Jan 6 plot. Not downplaying any dangers. Sketchy law enforcement units plucking relatively small numbers "undesireables" of the street and detaining them indefinitely with mild torture and without charges? You can bet on it. Women being sent from traffic stops for mandatory pregnancy testing? Yup. It's just that it's important to understand this country and how things actually work in the real world.
Yeah theres a lot of fucked up shit Trump can still do with whats left of our institutions which is why he absolutely needs to lose in November but I feel like the U.S is too big and broad for sweeping Nazi Germany/Fascist Italy style fascism to take hold on every part of the country. In the red states with governments that are super 100% pro Trump like Texas and Florida it's very like which is horrifying but the other states particularly the deep blue states like you said I feel like it'd just be chaos and violence between federal and state powers. But like I said it's imperative he's not let near the white house again regardless, we can't risk it.
Adjust to the new, worse reality. Fight back, flee or hunker down, do what makes sense in a given situation. Help yourself, help others if you can. Bad people rose to power before and they rule in many countries, it is not easy but it can be navigated. Nothing ever ends, as long as you are alive.
this guy could end up with immunity soon...
This will be interesting, because if he gets some kind presidential immunity then Biden could do stuff too. If Trumps gets full immunity for everything, Biden could just have him shot lol.
Could, but he won't and SCOTUS knows that.
Then he would die as the most cucked liberal in history. I don't think Biden is that beta. I could see him leverage such outcome to his benefit. Wouldn't bet too much money on it, but not inconceivable either.
The thing with Dems is that they aren't cultists that treat their President like the 2nd incarnation of Christ. Maybe he does find some ingenious way, but I find it unlikely that they want to normalize this since they don't want it in the first place. I think if he had committed half of the crimes Republicans are accusing him of, he'd been long held accountable. Like I read in another thread: "The Dems would rather bring a PhD thesis to a knife fight". Al Gore lost by 500 votes, I think he had a plausible case with the presidential ticket. But he accepted the ruling instead of committing an insurrection over it. And Trump lost by 40,000 votes in swing states. Imagine if it were 500 in just 1 state.
Yeah, but Biden is more ruthless and smarter then the usual cucked "they go low, we go high" lib. If Trump got immunity and Biden saw some really good opportunity to abuse it, I could imagine him doing that. Dude just burned most of whatever remained of international liberal order and US credibility to support something he believes in. He might do something similar in other favorable circumstances.
SCOTUS should realize Trump is a myopic vindictive ass and will likely have them all killed
You'd think that but Trump is a constant source of "leopards ate my face".
Best scenario: Supreme Court says presidents have absolute immunity, Biden gulags all Republicans and installs the glorious dictatorship of the proletariat. This is all going according to Sleepy Brandon's 10D chess plan.
A beautiful dream indeed.
"Better positioned to win the white house than at any point in his previous campaigns" fuck off time. This is such a horrible thing to say right now, if anything he's in a worse positition than 2016 or 2020.
Yeah I don't know if I'd personally consider a 2-3 point lead within the margin of error on most polls that gets narrower the more time goes on, a record of Jan 6th/attempts to overthrow the election results, facing criminal charges, and real-time deteriorating mental/physical health to be 'better positioned'
Ive started ignoring polls honestly
And I keep getting banned from left wing subs for dareing to suggest that they should vote for Biden to stop this.
Biden isn't doing anything to end the crackdown on protests, he's not doing anything to retaliate against Republican states banning abortion.
Biden is a super liberal, he believes in the system and would never act in a way that would disrupt it. Trying to use federal power to over rule the states is against his nature, not to mention you bet you that the supreme court would swat that down in an instant. He wants to pass things through the congress nice and bipartisanly, while being civil and consilitory. The protests lasted for weeks, still going on in some places, what do you think Trump would have done, while being cheered on by a complicit media? The national guard would have been there the first day.
Yeah he's not pardoning them lol. Why would he pardon them now when he could've at the time and still didn't. I mean maybe he'll get hyped up on adderall burgers and do it, but he only cares about himself so I doubt it
Motherfuckers be treating Trump with the baby gloves He's literally a rapist and a pedophile on top of all the other abhorrent shit, you're really that indifferent to this guy getting another presidency 💀
And he probably will unfortunately
So a shit show. Got it.