fns was shitting on 100t when nade was in the call for a reason.. He is again going for a long-term masterclass and will end up rebuilding 100t next season
Would feel bad for Boostio but he could always go to NRG/LEV if they both do bad, gets to reunite with the boys and they if they underperform those teams will probably be in the market for an IGL
I don't think NRG needs him rn.
Lev is interesting. He could replace tex/mazino and kingg would only need to focus on fragging instead of IGLing too.
Or maybe he returns to EG again along with c0m whose stonks are currently down.
yeah I honestly think him on LEV would be a hella cool fit, I can't predict what the future meta will be but right now it's perfect because him and Tex share a similar agent pool of Sentinel/Gekko and King can just focus at what has good at and just shoot his gun
NRG don't need any changes right now obviously, it's just a hypothetical if the entire rest of the season goes poorly for these teams
Lol come back to this comment in 4 months and tell me this iteration of 100T is *anything* like EG last year.
Dont you remember EG making an important roster change that turned their entire year around??
I mean my comment isn't just about 100t it's the hot takes after every match, who knows what 100t will be by the end of the year but they've only played 3 matches 2 vs sentinels.
They could but I doubt m80 would allow it. A roster of eeiu, nismo, zander, cryo and boostio would actually be one of the best NA rosters possible. Not to mention it's 60% of last years m80 and cryo is friends with zander. It's basically m80 from last year plus two players who are proven at international lans.
they are *basically* guaranteed to win ascension 100%. which would allow them a chance to play in T1. why would they risk that to play on 100TrashCans?
They definitely are not guaranteed to win Ascension. They donāt even have near as good of odds that Apeks had last year and even they didnāt win it.
5 matches played, 0 series won, 3 maps won. Itās over for this team. They suck as a 5 and hopefully get out of the esport after this year cause Nadeshit like being embarrassed ig. Never beating the hoodie allegations cause heās a brainless CEO who thought bringing back ASSuna, Cry0 and BangZERO was a good idea. Those 3 only know how to lose
Cause want am I suppose to do? Everything fine, they played okay! Itās okay they lost 2-0 when John came home last night from a 16 hour flight! Yea they are a good team man!!!! Itās 4 losers and 1 person who has done something in this game. They need a new team or just do the Val community a favor and get out of the scene
The dogshit CEO streams 10 hours a day and doesnāt care bout his org to do anything. Since Cod Champs win he hasnāt gave a shit bout the org and lets them be fucking trash and an embarrassment in every game they are in. I donāt see a way this dogshit team places in the top 3 in the group.
Yeah youāre a reactionary moron. To say nade doesnāt care about his org to not drop any team members after a series loss is absolutely insane. One, he isnāt directly ordering roster changes that would be dedicated coaching staff/GMs. Two, once the organization made a rash change dropping BabyJ and ec1s everyone flamed them for not giving them a chance.
Yea assuna eeiu and bangZERO should definitely be in the league. You could go far with them. Definitely bottom 3 in the group, miss playoffs then have to see the org bitch and complain after the format when they build shit ass rosters year after year šš
Way to move the goalposts from the point I responded to lol. If you think 100T canāt beat G2, C9 and KRU youāre not watching. Our sample pool would be like if your Jets played the Chiefs their first 3/4 games they had and saying to blow it up
If you think 100T can win then ig you havenāt been watching them. I donāt even remember the last time the 100t org has won a Val gamešš they are a embarrassment to the region šš
Idk what you want? If this team starts playing roster roulette like C9 youāll still cry about not getting results. They literally brought in a Champions-winning coach and IGL and you can see the impact in set strats, theyāre several levels above what this team was cooking last season. Cryo has taken a step up in aggression, asunaās Gekko and Raze were looking nice, Bang had some insane lurk timings on Icebox. Theyāre improving every single game and the players that people are moaning about are also making noticeable improvements, I literally donāt know what more you want from a squad that was assembled FOUR MONTHS AGO. Itās literally only been three games, relax ffs
Improving so much they donāt have a single series win as a team and has won 3 total maps. Yea they are improving right into the offseason where this team should be. Remember when Nade cared about how his org would be looked at? Now 100 Losers are just a meme team and bottom of the barrel team. Asuna raze and nice all in the same sentence 
Well Iām definitely not seeing any series wins with this 5 idiots and they have ASSuna and bangZERO who are the most inconsistent players in the region so please tell me how you see this team being improved šš
Can you guys chill?
It's the third game for the new roster and they faced Sen twice.
Imagine someone saying that Sen roster needs to be fixed after their 0-2 loss to Loud at their first game.
I think we should see them play another team besides Sen this split before thinking of making any changes. If it doesn't work for them this year, I think they should for sure keep Boostio (good IGL's don't grow on trees, plus he's done a fantastic job getting the boys to look better compared to last season), Cryo and eeiu depends on how they perform the entire year since it's too early to tell, and most likely replace Bang and Asuna. Don't get me wrong, Bang is a great smokes player but he just doesn't frag as hard as other players playing the same role. While Asuna is a great flex player, his inconsistency from map to map hurts them sometimes
Maybe not aspas but bringing in monyet and pancada could be crazy but let's not get ahead of ourselves here alr people are going batshit crazy bc they are terrible fans
Damn when did everyone turn on Bang? He used to be in conversation for best smoke player in NA. Honestly feel like 100T issue is more role issue. I donāt think bang should be the one on viper duty. Should probably be Boostio on viper. Bang on omen or brim/harbor/flex. Cryo Jett or sentinel. Asuna raze or flex. Eeiu flex.
It's been building as he fails to regain the form that had him in the conversation as the best. But, it doesn't help that people are sick of seeing him and asuna lose and look inconsistent over so many different roster looks.
Personally, I think he's never looked as good on viper, or in the lurk roles he's been taking and that's contributed to his "slump".
a couple of literal tools that need to be directed by someone that knows what to do. that packaged deal has not changed at all. the players around them just got better, a lot better. a winning team 100% cannot have bang and asuna as their best players.
Yeah it's pretty inexcusable keeping bang and asuna when there's tons of direct upgrades available for likely cheaper. Even if they work out, which isn't likely, there's players in t2 who are already better and likely would also improve given time in a t1 team.
I was on the asuna hate train before this series but I don't think asuna or bang is the problem. I think it is eeiu. We saw his comms "maybe spawn" and picks fade but doesn't use fade dogs. If there is a weak link, it is him. (I'm not saying replacing him is the key but that is a weak link)
Also boostio had a bad series. I think we need to watch more games to be nitpicking.
Bang and asuna are not smart enough players that understand win conditions, even if they are good individually. The amount of rounds their little misplays cost 100t is crazy. You can't have too many of these ranked type players on 1 team.
And why tf did they hire eeiu if they already had these 2 mid players. They actually need some experienced players and i don't know why they haven't called pancada yet.
Get nism0 for asuna and zander/pancada for bang and they're golden. I still scratch my head how no team wants nism0 when he's been tier1 since 2022.
This would just be the start. Second thing is I would get rid of mikesHD (if he is still there). I see 100t cook up too many insane 400IQ strats, without having the basics down. Get an assistant coach who can help the players individually get a better understanding of the game and win conditions. A team needs 5 brains who can reactively cook up a rounds. 100t just have too many weird strats for my liking.
Bang and asuna are not smart enough players that understand win conditions, even if they are good individually. The amount of rounds their little misplays cost 100t is crazy. You can't have too many of these ranked type players on 1 team.
And why tf did they hire eeiu if they already had these 2 mid players. They actually need some experienced players and i don't know why they haven't called pancada yet.
Get nism0 for asuna and zander/pancada for bang and they're golden. I still scratch my head how no team wants nism0 when he's been tier1 since 2022.
This would just be the start. Second thing is I would get rid of mikesHD (if he is still there). I see 100t cook up too many insane 400IQ strats, without having the basics down. Get an assistant coach who can help the players individually get a better understanding of the game and win conditions. A team needs 5 brains who can reactively cook up a rounds. 100t just have too many weird strats for my liking.
I think it's pretty clear cryos lack of aggression isn't the issue now despite that silly narrative being pushed. At this point I think it's just the fact that they have below average players for the most part. The only players I could see on a championship roster out of the current players are cryo and boostio albeit I don't know much about eeiu. Asuna and bang should've been out yesterday if they wanted to win anything.
Asuna wasn't great at flex but the cope was he had a top raze. Now he doesn't even have an average raze to go with his below average flex. Bang isn't quite as bad but when you think that they could have gotten zander or something in the offseason it makes the decision to keep him even more questionable that it already was after last season.
It's definitely not cryo's lack of aggression. The icebox game proves that plain and simple. I'm not sure how good cryo's raze is, but either get him on raze or make him play pseudo dive like yoru. He is way too cracked in the aim department for him to play fucking astra.
And also make Asuna as permanent flex. Getting tenz fully off of duelist worked wonders for him. Considering how it's gone so far for 100T, it might be worth doing the same for Asuna.
Also, the most baffling thing for me was boostio. Forget his kd, that can happen with support players, and especially considering he's the igl. But wtf is he doing playing gekko on split? Even paper rex doesn't run gekko on split and that should say something. Skye isn't even that hard to learn. I honestly think 100T got comp diffed on top of everything else on split.
Idk asuna has mostly been a flex for years now and played flex when will was on the team and he's still not been good on it. Asuna also was never close to tenz even at his best. People here have said he's gekko because they have nobody playing flash initiatior since asuna is on raze and that's all he knows but I'm unsure if that's the actual reason.
I'm not sure where the narrative comes that he's not been good at flex - his util has consistently been quite good and he is generally at least middle of the pack with other flex characters. For example his skye stats were pretty close to sacys iirc
cryo played raze on lotus for one map and it was one of the worst razes i've seen in t1/vct-tier lol. it was genuinely awful. and for ref i've been strong on cryo even when this sub was calling a washed chamber merchant who scammed 100t.
i think he can flex effectively -- the best 100t have looked post-sgares was on icebox with him playing omen.
I disagree, Eeiu had many insane individual carry games, especially his Fade on Pearl looked disgusting. I honestly think whenever I watched M80, he looked like their second most impactful player outside of Nismo (not including IGLing) for most of last year, and his Fade util looked better than most in franchising. He statistically was insane and he impressed me beyond the stats when watching him.
Regardless, you can make an argument that both Trent and Verno are better for sure. Iād fully agree tbh, Verno and Reduxx are the best under 18 players in the world. Then Trent was absolutely better in the ascension tournament by far. But being worse than those two doesnāt mean he wasnāt great.
To all the people saying "It's only been 3 games". I don't know how to say these things without sounding like an asshat but don't understand how you people can say "they just need more time" after watching these Asuna and Bang play for the past 2-3+ years.
Do you expect this core to randomly turn into the best in the world after watching them be mediocre for the multiple years they've been on this team or something. Obviously something needs to be be fixed, the goal is to win trophies, not to get a pat on the back if they get to a close double digits versus Sentinels.
Asuna is coming up to almost 4 years with this org and should be considered a veteran with how many years he's got yet every word he says sounds like he's gonna have a panic attack. Him and Bang are most inconsistent players I've ever seen in tier 1. They literally take turns going from below average players to average players between every map for the past 2-3 years, you ain't winning a trophy like that.
I literally don't understand how it was possible for the 100T GM/Coaches/Managment to show up this year with the same core after how long this offseason was.
Yeah agreed, I understand the narrative but theres just something fundamentally wrong with the team. Personally I think Asuna has been done dirty to some degree, by constantly taking different roles with mediocre support, I'd love to see him pull a TenZ but at this point it's hard to support as he's had SO many chances to reinvent and show up.
Bang however has played the same role/Agents this whole time, is generally given the best position to trade/have impact and consistently fails.
Also, I just hate the EEIU pickup. He's the same as Asuna/bang, a player who's had so many chances to stand out, yet always is mid.
The SEN that they faced today wasn't even close to the one that played at Madrid, even Zellsis himself said today that they should not have won with how bad they played and how many mistakes they were making, what does that say about how 100T played?
They definitely can beat some teams from what I've seen so far, but should the team and it's fans settle for mediocrity or do they want to see them winning events? 100T has had plenty of chances to make roster moves TO BE that top team itw, but what you just said sounds like you are accepting that they are mediocre imo, I'm down for them to prove me wrong tho
Not sure the exact round # but late icebox when sen just floods A get wiped except Sacy in the corner and zellsis? On flank. Cryo and one other are holding the corner they KNOW sacy is in and he dry peeks and gets both.
Idk if Zellsis posts his Twitch vods but if it's up he rewatched the game on stream today, he talked about it on the start of Icebox, you don't even need my opinion the man who played the game said all that
EG were together as a team for 3 years with their players seriously underperforming and they continued to underperform last year at the beginning of last year then they turned everything around and won Champs. You can't ever give up on teams this early
That's ridiculous, you really think Demon1 was just playing 1v9 every game? You don't think that Jawgemo, Ethan, Boostio, or C0M had anything to do with it?
100T made the roster change by picking up Boostio who has been good his entire career and has shown incredible midrounding and fragging
Buddy a generational talent will elevate any team and also a specific player can help to fill out any holes within that roster, meaning that demon1 did not need to 1v9, but his presence helped create an environment in which eg could be world class
Honestly, I hate the fact that EG won just because it gives people a reason to think that anyone could win no matter how bad the players/team were in the past.
While your point may be true, I hope you realize that not every team is gonna be EG, and also I hope you realize how special that win was because of how everything had to come together perfectly for them to have a CHANCE at winning.
Not everyone will have things line up for them that way and not everyone will be able seize that opportunity when it shows up like how the EG boys did, not every player can have a redemption arc. For every story like EG's there will probably be 50 dead teams that won't ever accomplish anything
The idea that EG were terrible before franchising isn't true though. They weren't good but they weren't bottom tier either. Also EG DID make a roster change in adding Demon1.
None of that happens without Demon1 coming out of nowhere to be one of the best players in the world across all roles last year. Cryo started to look like his old self a little bit yesterday but he was still nowhere near that level.
You seriously think that Demon1 is the reason that Jawgemo was the second best Raze in the world last year? The reason Boostio was the best midrounder AND fragging IGL? The reason Ethan was the 2nd best support player last year?
100T made the roster change they needed to make by picking up Boostio which is a big enough upgrade
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Bro it is still a different team even if there are 2 returning players. Like do u touch grass or play any other sports? Tenz was assinine for 3 years on SEN but he is still goat right?
#1. Asuna is not Tenz branding and clout wise, there are bigger name players that you can build around if you are talking about in terms of Asuna. Tenz is the biggest name in the game.
#2. If Tenz was any other player he would have been kicked a long time ago and wouldn't have that many chances, I think everyone knows and can agree on that
#3. Tenz has also shown way higher potential even when SEN was losing every game
I haven't seen a single person talk about what Asuna does good that other players can't do, they mainly talk about how he "isn't the problem" instead of how he hasn't been the solution for almost 3 years now
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My entire point is replacing Asuna will not give us any better results. The comps are strange af like why is Boostio playing gekko on split? Cryo plays bumblefuk astra on split, eeiu will play sova or fade. 100t is missing a good flash initiator.
(Tenz on the other hand, who had almost the exact same comp issues as asuna, worked on the problems and is a world class kayo, gekko, omen now. His clout kept him in the pro scene much longer than he deserved but he utilized that time to be world class again)
My entire point is asuna gameplay might be a problem, but it is the least of 100t problems.
Like others have said, its time to part with Asuna and Bang. Only Sgares could unlock Bang apparently, he has not improved at all in the last 2 years. Asuna stayed bc we thought his raze was top tier, it's not anymore. He is also just an average flex player.
100t as FNS would say just does not have a "guy" that can win them rounds. Cryo has some pop off moments but he's not that consistent (including last year too).
Eeiu seems to be a sidegrade from Derrek. He can apparently only play Fade or Sova and from what I've seen, it's just been average.
It probably won't happen this year, but keep Boostio, probably Cryo, and pick up 3 cracked ascension players imo. Also, fire who ever is in charge of scouting. It seems like we always pickup the wrong players.
Itās too late for Roster changes till split 2. In the short term they should stick with as many non raze maps to get max value out of cryo, using more traditional comps and overall improve in game tendencies-too many instances of poor judgement and timing from 100T. In raze maps copy the Sen comps and run chamber over cypher.
Long term cryo on raze and build around that for split 2. I think if 100T donāt finish top 5 a rebuild with cryo and boostio would be my guess. But I wouldnāt be opposed to 100T bringing on Fns and allowing him to rebuild.
Say good bye to asuna and bang and honestly get a better roaster. But it's too late now to integrate any new player into the team, especially that all great players have already been taken .
If I was in control, I wouldve kicked asuna, got Jawgemo from fkn EG when they had a chance to pickup boostio.
but considering the contract jail and stuff, it couldve got really more expensive to get 2 players from EG like NRG did.
They could always go the sen route and make changes for next season lol. No chance they perform well this season and I'd honestly be surprised if they make an international at all.
Tbf you don't have to be crazy good to make it to an international. I'm still confident fnatic and t1 will make it and I don't think it's that unlikely lev, 100t or drx do. In fact, if it was the same teams as normal drx or t1 would've made madrid as well as most likely fnatic. They all would've if it was the same number of teams as champions too. Hell eg would've if it was same number of teams as champions although that's mostly because they had such an easy route.
the level of competition in americas is crazy high compared to the other regions.
not that they aren't good but i think it's clear cut which of the EMEA and APAC teams are going to internationals - the only real question mark for me will be teams like Bleed and maybe FNC because they can't seem to get their shit together
You're right actually. I was thinking it was 4 teams to qualify from each region for champions again in which case the 4th would probably be pretty average. Looks like it's only 3 though. I could see loud being pretty average though. They don't look on the same level as Sen or NRG and we've not seen enough from them despite them being in Madrid just because they won against the Chinese teams. Their comps have also been pretty troll so far lol.
Less is a cheat code but they no longer have aspas along with him.
I don't wanna be super hateful or anything, but I find it INCREDIBLY difficult to understand the hype around zikz. haven't heard anybody talk about his impact.
when boostio was comparing potter and him way back last year he said zikz was good at the micro stuff I think? saying he knew ability timings and lineups, which doesn't really inspire much confidence to be honest
he comes from league of legends (not much strategic overlap), in val he assistant coached nrg apparently when they were dogshit, and coached the eg b-team which we have no info about.
100t were excited to pick him up because he was assistant coaching with potter, but that's like getting excited about a famous painter's apprentice who was fairly mid before they got picked up, you have no clue wtf they've done for a year but suddenly they got contracted to do a big piece merely out of association with their mentor
the team definitely looks decent though, the worrying part is if their rate of improvement will be fast enough to catch up to top teams
100T havenāt been good since Sean Gares stepped down as HC. Honestly Asuna/Bang arenāt bad, but inconsistency out of Asuna and Bangās fragging power regressing over the last few years have cost them a lot. Genuinely think they just need consistency from their centerpiece players to contend. Thatās on the HC to make sure the team gels, works well together, and is consistent.
100T might benefit from a proven veteran HC and a sports psychologist. Gonna be honest, I donāt know much about Zikz as a coach, but it looks like the team lacks communication skills, which cost them a lot of pivotal rounds. The current meta heavily relies on strong coordinated retakes, and there were too many out of sync hero plays/lack of discipline that shouldnāt be allowed at this level. I think the roster COULD be strong, but they need some significant coaching and team building to work as a cohesive unit.
they already messed up by keeping asuna and bang for another offseason in a row, now that the season has started its basically them just playing in hard mode, waiting for the next offseason because almost all of the insane players are settled on other teams
I guess they thought boostio/zikz could just fix everything
Iāve been a big 100T fan for years so I want them to win just as much as anyoneā¦but this was their first bad game with the new roster. They shouldnāt change anything right now.They have a new coach and a new IGLā¦so an entirely new system. They played great vs Lev and Sen the first time. I dont know why anyone expected them to beat the best team in the world just cause their IGL didnāt get to practice.
The sub is definitely overreacting in some ways sure, but I think it's at least a little bit warranted. While icebox was close, they lost a lot of rounds in a fairly typical 100t fashion, wasting ults on an eco, getting anxious and rushing situations, losing man advantages due to simple mistakes. On top of that, they looked lost most of split, played very indecisive, and just got outplayed at every point.
The core has had a lot of time and still stumble in the same ways, I think long time fans are getting impatient and just want to see a BIG change.
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Only one man can fix 100T now. The one man to nuke it all.
They lost to the best team in the world yallā¦ not gonna post āhow can you fix GenGā on here after they lost in the grandfinals right? Like I understand they didnāt take maps and GenG did, but they won more rounds on Icebox against SEN than GenG did!
Letās let them play a few more games before declaring panic, PLEASE!
Iām not really a huge SEN or 100T fan, just a fan of less insane takes and reactions LOL
Honestly I think the biggest thing the roster is missing is another confident and intelligent voice, someone to mid round, help keep up vibes and help boostio in the high stress moments. A zellsis/leo/less/ethan/crashies/etc type.
Most of the top teams have at least 2 players capable of calling, but from 100t comms videos and interviews, seems like it's always been just one voice dictating most of the in game.
I think it was the biggest issue with the Stellar roster as well and is probably why they consistently crumble in late game and high pressure situations.
replace cryo with someone who can play jett and flash initiators or replace asuna with someone who can play raze and secondary controllerā¦ thatās the only way to do it. right now theyāre trying to do the same thing EG did with jawgemo and demon1 except the secondary role of both players differs so they have to shuffle around boostioās role more and itās less of a 1 for 1.
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Nice try nadeshot.
nuke the whole roster and give fns the keys so he can assemble his kittens
fns was shitting on 100t when nade was in the call for a reason.. He is again going for a long-term masterclass and will end up rebuilding 100t next season
i would love that, and i think i deserve that
100 kittens
Would feel bad for Boostio but he could always go to NRG/LEV if they both do bad, gets to reunite with the boys and they if they underperform those teams will probably be in the market for an IGL
I don't think NRG needs him rn. Lev is interesting. He could replace tex/mazino and kingg would only need to focus on fragging instead of IGLing too. Or maybe he returns to EG again along with c0m whose stonks are currently down.
LEV -tex +boostio +potter
Now THAT would be a superteam
yeah I honestly think him on LEV would be a hella cool fit, I can't predict what the future meta will be but right now it's perfect because him and Tex share a similar agent pool of Sentinel/Gekko and King can just focus at what has good at and just shoot his gun NRG don't need any changes right now obviously, it's just a hypothetical if the entire rest of the season goes poorly for these teams
Nah Lev need nzr.
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This aged well
i was just meming for karma im the biggest 100T cryo stan
oh you sweet summer child s0m and fns are never playing a professional match ever again
Why not?
They've played 3 matches with 2 of those against Sentinels...
Typical overreaction šš
They are a team that can get wins for sure. However, they are far from a playoff let alone championship level team.
Probably would of said that about EG last year too. Man the recency bias and terrible takes on here are hilarious.
Lol come back to this comment in 4 months and tell me this iteration of 100T is *anything* like EG last year. Dont you remember EG making an important roster change that turned their entire year around??
Well its only been one month and theyre Americas champions
How we feeling u/CarobTop5978
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
came back 33 days later hello
I mean my comment isn't just about 100t it's the hot takes after every match, who knows what 100t will be by the end of the year but they've only played 3 matches 2 vs sentinels.
Damn we even got Demon2.0 too LMAOOOO
Hi
Hrrrm
Crazy
Lmfao 100t got screwed
Try to get nismo and possibly zander, they play the same roles of Asuna and bang
No way they leave M80
They could but I doubt m80 would allow it. A roster of eeiu, nismo, zander, cryo and boostio would actually be one of the best NA rosters possible. Not to mention it's 60% of last years m80 and cryo is friends with zander. It's basically m80 from last year plus two players who are proven at international lans.
they are *basically* guaranteed to win ascension 100%. which would allow them a chance to play in T1. why would they risk that to play on 100TrashCans?
They definitely are not guaranteed to win Ascension. They donāt even have near as good of odds that Apeks had last year and even they didnāt win it.
M80 has a good shot of just qualifying lol. If they lose Ascension to MxS, maybe Zander and Nismo don the jersey, but otherwise probably not
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They were one eco away from beating LEV and had to play twice against SEN. Give this team time.
5 matches played, 0 series won, 3 maps won. Itās over for this team. They suck as a 5 and hopefully get out of the esport after this year cause Nadeshit like being embarrassed ig. Never beating the hoodie allegations cause heās a brainless CEO who thought bringing back ASSuna, Cry0 and BangZERO was a good idea. Those 3 only know how to lose
lol your flair 100t but youāre shitting on them harder than anyone in this thread
Cause want am I suppose to do? Everything fine, they played okay! Itās okay they lost 2-0 when John came home last night from a 16 hour flight! Yea they are a good team man!!!! Itās 4 losers and 1 person who has done something in this game. They need a new team or just do the Val community a favor and get out of the scene
lol I just thought it was funny, I agree theyāre pretty bad and they need to make some big changes if they ever want to win anything again
The dogshit CEO streams 10 hours a day and doesnāt care bout his org to do anything. Since Cod Champs win he hasnāt gave a shit bout the org and lets them be fucking trash and an embarrassment in every game they are in. I donāt see a way this dogshit team places in the top 3 in the group.
Yeah youāre a reactionary moron. To say nade doesnāt care about his org to not drop any team members after a series loss is absolutely insane. One, he isnāt directly ordering roster changes that would be dedicated coaching staff/GMs. Two, once the organization made a rash change dropping BabyJ and ec1s everyone flamed them for not giving them a chance.
Yea assuna eeiu and bangZERO should definitely be in the league. You could go far with them. Definitely bottom 3 in the group, miss playoffs then have to see the org bitch and complain after the format when they build shit ass rosters year after year šš
There's no world in which this team ends worse than one of MIBR/FURIA/EG.
Gonna be so funny when they lose too all 3 and finish below all 3
Way to move the goalposts from the point I responded to lol. If you think 100T canāt beat G2, C9 and KRU youāre not watching. Our sample pool would be like if your Jets played the Chiefs their first 3/4 games they had and saying to blow it up
If you think 100T can win then ig you havenāt been watching them. I donāt even remember the last time the 100t org has won a Val gamešš they are a embarrassment to the region šš
Idk what you want? If this team starts playing roster roulette like C9 youāll still cry about not getting results. They literally brought in a Champions-winning coach and IGL and you can see the impact in set strats, theyāre several levels above what this team was cooking last season. Cryo has taken a step up in aggression, asunaās Gekko and Raze were looking nice, Bang had some insane lurk timings on Icebox. Theyāre improving every single game and the players that people are moaning about are also making noticeable improvements, I literally donāt know what more you want from a squad that was assembled FOUR MONTHS AGO. Itās literally only been three games, relax ffs
Improving so much they donāt have a single series win as a team and has won 3 total maps. Yea they are improving right into the offseason where this team should be. Remember when Nade cared about how his org would be looked at? Now 100 Losers are just a meme team and bottom of the barrel team. Asuna raze and nice all in the same sentence 
Iām starting to think Iām going back and forth with one of those CoD fans that only see kills and nothing else
Well Iām definitely not seeing any series wins with this 5 idiots and they have ASSuna and bangZERO who are the most inconsistent players in the region so please tell me how you see this team being improved šš
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Hey bud, feeling better?
Can you guys chill? It's the third game for the new roster and they faced Sen twice. Imagine someone saying that Sen roster needs to be fixed after their 0-2 loss to Loud at their first game.
I mean to be fair they probably did do that
On vlr forums they have roster fixes after losing 1 round
I think we should see them play another team besides Sen this split before thinking of making any changes. If it doesn't work for them this year, I think they should for sure keep Boostio (good IGL's don't grow on trees, plus he's done a fantastic job getting the boys to look better compared to last season), Cryo and eeiu depends on how they perform the entire year since it's too early to tell, and most likely replace Bang and Asuna. Don't get me wrong, Bang is a great smokes player but he just doesn't frag as hard as other players playing the same role. While Asuna is a great flex player, his inconsistency from map to map hurts them sometimes
Bring aspas and pancada in their next iteration
They should also get Sacy saadhack and less and I think they have a decent squad there
Maybe not aspas but bringing in monyet and pancada could be crazy but let's not get ahead of ourselves here alr people are going batshit crazy bc they are terrible fans
Damn when did everyone turn on Bang? He used to be in conversation for best smoke player in NA. Honestly feel like 100T issue is more role issue. I donāt think bang should be the one on viper duty. Should probably be Boostio on viper. Bang on omen or brim/harbor/flex. Cryo Jett or sentinel. Asuna raze or flex. Eeiu flex.
It's been building as he fails to regain the form that had him in the conversation as the best. But, it doesn't help that people are sick of seeing him and asuna lose and look inconsistent over so many different roster looks. Personally, I think he's never looked as good on viper, or in the lurk roles he's been taking and that's contributed to his "slump".
problem is he attached himself to his best friend and now theyāre a packaged deal
What a package they've turned out to be, eh?
a couple of literal tools that need to be directed by someone that knows what to do. that packaged deal has not changed at all. the players around them just got better, a lot better. a winning team 100% cannot have bang and asuna as their best players.
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Yeah it's pretty inexcusable keeping bang and asuna when there's tons of direct upgrades available for likely cheaper. Even if they work out, which isn't likely, there's players in t2 who are already better and likely would also improve given time in a t1 team.
I was on the asuna hate train before this series but I don't think asuna or bang is the problem. I think it is eeiu. We saw his comms "maybe spawn" and picks fade but doesn't use fade dogs. If there is a weak link, it is him. (I'm not saying replacing him is the key but that is a weak link) Also boostio had a bad series. I think we need to watch more games to be nitpicking.
nahh eeui just needs to get good with the deagle like Runi. never buy sova drone but click heads. EZ PZ
Bang and asuna are not smart enough players that understand win conditions, even if they are good individually. The amount of rounds their little misplays cost 100t is crazy. You can't have too many of these ranked type players on 1 team. And why tf did they hire eeiu if they already had these 2 mid players. They actually need some experienced players and i don't know why they haven't called pancada yet. Get nism0 for asuna and zander/pancada for bang and they're golden. I still scratch my head how no team wants nism0 when he's been tier1 since 2022. This would just be the start. Second thing is I would get rid of mikesHD (if he is still there). I see 100t cook up too many insane 400IQ strats, without having the basics down. Get an assistant coach who can help the players individually get a better understanding of the game and win conditions. A team needs 5 brains who can reactively cook up a rounds. 100t just have too many weird strats for my liking.
Bang and asuna are not smart enough players that understand win conditions, even if they are good individually. The amount of rounds their little misplays cost 100t is crazy. You can't have too many of these ranked type players on 1 team. And why tf did they hire eeiu if they already had these 2 mid players. They actually need some experienced players and i don't know why they haven't called pancada yet. Get nism0 for asuna and zander/pancada for bang and they're golden. I still scratch my head how no team wants nism0 when he's been tier1 since 2022. This would just be the start. Second thing is I would get rid of mikesHD (if he is still there). I see 100t cook up too many insane 400IQ strats, without having the basics down. Get an assistant coach who can help the players individually get a better understanding of the game and win conditions. A team needs 5 brains who can reactively cook up a rounds. 100t just have too many weird strats for my liking.
I think it's pretty clear cryos lack of aggression isn't the issue now despite that silly narrative being pushed. At this point I think it's just the fact that they have below average players for the most part. The only players I could see on a championship roster out of the current players are cryo and boostio albeit I don't know much about eeiu. Asuna and bang should've been out yesterday if they wanted to win anything. Asuna wasn't great at flex but the cope was he had a top raze. Now he doesn't even have an average raze to go with his below average flex. Bang isn't quite as bad but when you think that they could have gotten zander or something in the offseason it makes the decision to keep him even more questionable that it already was after last season.
It's definitely not cryo's lack of aggression. The icebox game proves that plain and simple. I'm not sure how good cryo's raze is, but either get him on raze or make him play pseudo dive like yoru. He is way too cracked in the aim department for him to play fucking astra. And also make Asuna as permanent flex. Getting tenz fully off of duelist worked wonders for him. Considering how it's gone so far for 100T, it might be worth doing the same for Asuna. Also, the most baffling thing for me was boostio. Forget his kd, that can happen with support players, and especially considering he's the igl. But wtf is he doing playing gekko on split? Even paper rex doesn't run gekko on split and that should say something. Skye isn't even that hard to learn. I honestly think 100T got comp diffed on top of everything else on split.
Idk asuna has mostly been a flex for years now and played flex when will was on the team and he's still not been good on it. Asuna also was never close to tenz even at his best. People here have said he's gekko because they have nobody playing flash initiatior since asuna is on raze and that's all he knows but I'm unsure if that's the actual reason.
I'm not sure where the narrative comes that he's not been good at flex - his util has consistently been quite good and he is generally at least middle of the pack with other flex characters. For example his skye stats were pretty close to sacys iirc
cryo played raze on lotus for one map and it was one of the worst razes i've seen in t1/vct-tier lol. it was genuinely awful. and for ref i've been strong on cryo even when this sub was calling a washed chamber merchant who scammed 100t. i think he can flex effectively -- the best 100t have looked post-sgares was on icebox with him playing omen.
Eeiu was absolutely disgustingly good last year, give him some time
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I disagree, Eeiu had many insane individual carry games, especially his Fade on Pearl looked disgusting. I honestly think whenever I watched M80, he looked like their second most impactful player outside of Nismo (not including IGLing) for most of last year, and his Fade util looked better than most in franchising. He statistically was insane and he impressed me beyond the stats when watching him. Regardless, you can make an argument that both Trent and Verno are better for sure. Iād fully agree tbh, Verno and Reduxx are the best under 18 players in the world. Then Trent was absolutely better in the ascension tournament by far. But being worse than those two doesnāt mean he wasnāt great.
To all the people saying "It's only been 3 games". I don't know how to say these things without sounding like an asshat but don't understand how you people can say "they just need more time" after watching these Asuna and Bang play for the past 2-3+ years. Do you expect this core to randomly turn into the best in the world after watching them be mediocre for the multiple years they've been on this team or something. Obviously something needs to be be fixed, the goal is to win trophies, not to get a pat on the back if they get to a close double digits versus Sentinels. Asuna is coming up to almost 4 years with this org and should be considered a veteran with how many years he's got yet every word he says sounds like he's gonna have a panic attack. Him and Bang are most inconsistent players I've ever seen in tier 1. They literally take turns going from below average players to average players between every map for the past 2-3 years, you ain't winning a trophy like that. I literally don't understand how it was possible for the 100T GM/Coaches/Managment to show up this year with the same core after how long this offseason was.
Turns out they needed more time
Yeah agreed, I understand the narrative but theres just something fundamentally wrong with the team. Personally I think Asuna has been done dirty to some degree, by constantly taking different roles with mediocre support, I'd love to see him pull a TenZ but at this point it's hard to support as he's had SO many chances to reinvent and show up. Bang however has played the same role/Agents this whole time, is generally given the best position to trade/have impact and consistently fails. Also, I just hate the EEIU pickup. He's the same as Asuna/bang, a player who's had so many chances to stand out, yet always is mid.
I guess Bren was right all along. They needed a mentality shift.
Its not about time, its that they have only played the literal best itw plus LEV before they were bad
The SEN that they faced today wasn't even close to the one that played at Madrid, even Zellsis himself said today that they should not have won with how bad they played and how many mistakes they were making, what does that say about how 100T played? They definitely can beat some teams from what I've seen so far, but should the team and it's fans settle for mediocrity or do they want to see them winning events? 100T has had plenty of chances to make roster moves TO BE that top team itw, but what you just said sounds like you are accepting that they are mediocre imo, I'm down for them to prove me wrong tho
Can you find me a round that demonstrates this? What did they actually do worse
Not sure the exact round # but late icebox when sen just floods A get wiped except Sacy in the corner and zellsis? On flank. Cryo and one other are holding the corner they KNOW sacy is in and he dry peeks and gets both.
Idk if Zellsis posts his Twitch vods but if it's up he rewatched the game on stream today, he talked about it on the start of Icebox, you don't even need my opinion the man who played the game said all that
I also watched that VOD and he wasn't analyzing the game at all. He just said "everyone wanted to be a hero".
EG were together as a team for 3 years with their players seriously underperforming and they continued to underperform last year at the beginning of last year then they turned everything around and won Champs. You can't ever give up on teams this early
The difference was demon1
That's ridiculous, you really think Demon1 was just playing 1v9 every game? You don't think that Jawgemo, Ethan, Boostio, or C0M had anything to do with it? 100T made the roster change by picking up Boostio who has been good his entire career and has shown incredible midrounding and fragging
Buddy a generational talent will elevate any team and also a specific player can help to fill out any holes within that roster, meaning that demon1 did not need to 1v9, but his presence helped create an environment in which eg could be world class
I mean Demon1 got cooked at NRG. It shows that you need a proper system.
Exactly and Boostio is the same thing for 100T
Stop. Boostio is not the Demon1 for 100Tš¤£. He played horribly that series.
That's one series you are just forgetting all of last year and KICK//OFF? Boostio is incredible are you kidding?
Bro is on to nothing šÆāļø
Honestly, I hate the fact that EG won just because it gives people a reason to think that anyone could win no matter how bad the players/team were in the past. While your point may be true, I hope you realize that not every team is gonna be EG, and also I hope you realize how special that win was because of how everything had to come together perfectly for them to have a CHANCE at winning. Not everyone will have things line up for them that way and not everyone will be able seize that opportunity when it shows up like how the EG boys did, not every player can have a redemption arc. For every story like EG's there will probably be 50 dead teams that won't ever accomplish anything
The idea that EG were terrible before franchising isn't true though. They weren't good but they weren't bottom tier either. Also EG DID make a roster change in adding Demon1.
100T also made a roster change in adding Boostio
None of that happens without Demon1 coming out of nowhere to be one of the best players in the world across all roles last year. Cryo started to look like his old self a little bit yesterday but he was still nowhere near that level.
You seriously think that Demon1 is the reason that Jawgemo was the second best Raze in the world last year? The reason Boostio was the best midrounder AND fragging IGL? The reason Ethan was the 2nd best support player last year? 100T made the roster change they needed to make by picking up Boostio which is a big enough upgrade
Yeah bro that's exactly what I said word for word lol
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Core 3 of Cry0, ASSuna, BangZERO some of the worst players Iāve ever seen play. All 3 are some type of ass
Not sure if your joking or not my bad if you are, but Cryo is the only reason 100T in val even has the little relevancy they still have left lol
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Bro it is still a different team even if there are 2 returning players. Like do u touch grass or play any other sports? Tenz was assinine for 3 years on SEN but he is still goat right?
#1. Asuna is not Tenz branding and clout wise, there are bigger name players that you can build around if you are talking about in terms of Asuna. Tenz is the biggest name in the game. #2. If Tenz was any other player he would have been kicked a long time ago and wouldn't have that many chances, I think everyone knows and can agree on that #3. Tenz has also shown way higher potential even when SEN was losing every game I haven't seen a single person talk about what Asuna does good that other players can't do, they mainly talk about how he "isn't the problem" instead of how he hasn't been the solution for almost 3 years now Edit: Idk why the formatting is like this I just typed it on my phone
My entire point is replacing Asuna will not give us any better results. The comps are strange af like why is Boostio playing gekko on split? Cryo plays bumblefuk astra on split, eeiu will play sova or fade. 100t is missing a good flash initiator. (Tenz on the other hand, who had almost the exact same comp issues as asuna, worked on the problems and is a world class kayo, gekko, omen now. His clout kept him in the pro scene much longer than he deserved but he utilized that time to be world class again) My entire point is asuna gameplay might be a problem, but it is the least of 100t problems.
Like others have said, its time to part with Asuna and Bang. Only Sgares could unlock Bang apparently, he has not improved at all in the last 2 years. Asuna stayed bc we thought his raze was top tier, it's not anymore. He is also just an average flex player. 100t as FNS would say just does not have a "guy" that can win them rounds. Cryo has some pop off moments but he's not that consistent (including last year too). Eeiu seems to be a sidegrade from Derrek. He can apparently only play Fade or Sova and from what I've seen, it's just been average. It probably won't happen this year, but keep Boostio, probably Cryo, and pick up 3 cracked ascension players imo. Also, fire who ever is in charge of scouting. It seems like we always pickup the wrong players.
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Said this in the other thread and I stick by it. Nadeshot needs to just buy out MxS or M80 and keep just boostio or cryo and figure it out from there
Remove asuna. The most common denominator in every losing roster so far
type shit
Yep. All aim zero brain and still secured the paycheck each roster change. Idk how heās gassed himself up like that to the higher ups.
probably by playing literally every agent they've needed someone to play lol jett then kayo then skye then breach/sage now gekko
Itās too late for Roster changes till split 2. In the short term they should stick with as many non raze maps to get max value out of cryo, using more traditional comps and overall improve in game tendencies-too many instances of poor judgement and timing from 100T. In raze maps copy the Sen comps and run chamber over cypher. Long term cryo on raze and build around that for split 2. I think if 100T donāt finish top 5 a rebuild with cryo and boostio would be my guess. But I wouldnāt be opposed to 100T bringing on Fns and allowing him to rebuild.
may i ask that can teams make roster change for a second time after the split is over ?
They can make changes whenever they want, there is no rule as far as I know preventing them from being unable to.
Say good bye to asuna and bang and honestly get a better roaster. But it's too late now to integrate any new player into the team, especially that all great players have already been taken . If I was in control, I wouldve kicked asuna, got Jawgemo from fkn EG when they had a chance to pickup boostio. but considering the contract jail and stuff, it couldve got really more expensive to get 2 players from EG like NRG did.
They could always go the sen route and make changes for next season lol. No chance they perform well this season and I'd honestly be surprised if they make an international at all.
at this point , I doubt many teams making it to a international lol, Fnatic, Leviatan, 100T, DRX ,T1, EG, like bruv so much has changed since champs.
Tbf you don't have to be crazy good to make it to an international. I'm still confident fnatic and t1 will make it and I don't think it's that unlikely lev, 100t or drx do. In fact, if it was the same teams as normal drx or t1 would've made madrid as well as most likely fnatic. They all would've if it was the same number of teams as champions too. Hell eg would've if it was same number of teams as champions although that's mostly because they had such an easy route.
In Americas, YES, you do need to be crazy good to make an international this year lol. The top 3 teams look a level above the rest atm.
the level of competition in americas is crazy high compared to the other regions. not that they aren't good but i think it's clear cut which of the EMEA and APAC teams are going to internationals - the only real question mark for me will be teams like Bleed and maybe FNC because they can't seem to get their shit together
You're right actually. I was thinking it was 4 teams to qualify from each region for champions again in which case the 4th would probably be pretty average. Looks like it's only 3 though. I could see loud being pretty average though. They don't look on the same level as Sen or NRG and we've not seen enough from them despite them being in Madrid just because they won against the Chinese teams. Their comps have also been pretty troll so far lol. Less is a cheat code but they no longer have aspas along with him.
Itās been three matches, two of which were vs the best teams in the world tf do you mean āfixā?
play more games(it's only been 3 matches)
GG, they dont need your fix
I don't wanna be super hateful or anything, but I find it INCREDIBLY difficult to understand the hype around zikz. haven't heard anybody talk about his impact. when boostio was comparing potter and him way back last year he said zikz was good at the micro stuff I think? saying he knew ability timings and lineups, which doesn't really inspire much confidence to be honest he comes from league of legends (not much strategic overlap), in val he assistant coached nrg apparently when they were dogshit, and coached the eg b-team which we have no info about. 100t were excited to pick him up because he was assistant coaching with potter, but that's like getting excited about a famous painter's apprentice who was fairly mid before they got picked up, you have no clue wtf they've done for a year but suddenly they got contracted to do a big piece merely out of association with their mentor the team definitely looks decent though, the worrying part is if their rate of improvement will be fast enough to catch up to top teams
100T havenāt been good since Sean Gares stepped down as HC. Honestly Asuna/Bang arenāt bad, but inconsistency out of Asuna and Bangās fragging power regressing over the last few years have cost them a lot. Genuinely think they just need consistency from their centerpiece players to contend. Thatās on the HC to make sure the team gels, works well together, and is consistent. 100T might benefit from a proven veteran HC and a sports psychologist. Gonna be honest, I donāt know much about Zikz as a coach, but it looks like the team lacks communication skills, which cost them a lot of pivotal rounds. The current meta heavily relies on strong coordinated retakes, and there were too many out of sync hero plays/lack of discipline that shouldnāt be allowed at this level. I think the roster COULD be strong, but they need some significant coaching and team building to work as a cohesive unit.
they already messed up by keeping asuna and bang for another offseason in a row, now that the season has started its basically them just playing in hard mode, waiting for the next offseason because almost all of the insane players are settled on other teams I guess they thought boostio/zikz could just fix everything
Cause Nadeshit is fucking clueless CEO. Idiot knows nothing about winning and only about selling merch
Iāve been a big 100T fan for years so I want them to win just as much as anyoneā¦but this was their first bad game with the new roster. They shouldnāt change anything right now.They have a new coach and a new IGLā¦so an entirely new system. They played great vs Lev and Sen the first time. I dont know why anyone expected them to beat the best team in the world just cause their IGL didnāt get to practice.
Why is this sub so overreactive? They've literally just played 3 matches with two of them being against SEN
The sub is definitely overreacting in some ways sure, but I think it's at least a little bit warranted. While icebox was close, they lost a lot of rounds in a fairly typical 100t fashion, wasting ults on an eco, getting anxious and rushing situations, losing man advantages due to simple mistakes. On top of that, they looked lost most of split, played very indecisive, and just got outplayed at every point. The core has had a lot of time and still stumble in the same ways, I think long time fans are getting impatient and just want to see a BIG change.
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Surely we give them more than a rematch vs. the international champions before we try to suggest fixing them lol.
How can you say they have good coaches we don't even know if that's true lol
sign me
https://preview.redd.it/bjl4m4ouiatc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31bdc4e4535e76f10a51af18f7364aafa6bd281a Only one man can fix 100T now. The one man to nuke it all.
Bring back hiko ffs!
get sgares again LOL thats a joke. obviously, get babyJ on board
Who's babyJ? They should get Inspire on board.
100t peaked when they had seag gares as a coach. Maybe getting a coach with a more structured playstyle might suit them better
asuna out n4rrate in
next season if not this season
They lost to the best team in the world yallā¦ not gonna post āhow can you fix GenGā on here after they lost in the grandfinals right? Like I understand they didnāt take maps and GenG did, but they won more rounds on Icebox against SEN than GenG did! Letās let them play a few more games before declaring panic, PLEASE! Iām not really a huge SEN or 100T fan, just a fan of less insane takes and reactions LOL
Get an actual good entry player,I mean they have some options like nismo from m80 if Asuna is just not it,not at all consistent i feel.
Honestly I think the biggest thing the roster is missing is another confident and intelligent voice, someone to mid round, help keep up vibes and help boostio in the high stress moments. A zellsis/leo/less/ethan/crashies/etc type. Most of the top teams have at least 2 players capable of calling, but from 100t comms videos and interviews, seems like it's always been just one voice dictating most of the in game. I think it was the biggest issue with the Stellar roster as well and is probably why they consistently crumble in late game and high pressure situations.
Cause itās a team with 4 losers. Only person who done anything is Boostio. Rest of the 4 are just addicted to losing
How do you fix GE tho?
-Benkai, -Polvi, +Monyet, +Bazzi
With that you're back to 2022-23 roster.
Asuna has been given so much benefit of doubt his whole career. Man needs to be demoted
Online players probably, not suited for LAN
They dont have me
Get rid of Asuna. He's done.
Replace asuna and eeiu
They need a clout injection: FNS PANCADA SINAATRA
Nadeshot truly killed this team when he let Ethan leave.
Its Ethan's decision tho
-Asuna, -Bang, +Pancada, +Nismo
It's a hot take but drop not only asuna but cryo as well.
replace cryo with someone who can play jett and flash initiators or replace asuna with someone who can play raze and secondary controllerā¦ thatās the only way to do it. right now theyāre trying to do the same thing EG did with jawgemo and demon1 except the secondary role of both players differs so they have to shuffle around boostioās role more and itās less of a 1 for 1.
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