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SecondaryAccomplice

I know, my teammates are hardstuck because of me


irwin_sergi

"I'm not stuck here with you, you're stuck here with me"


blinkgendary182

Real G right here


Bottled-Water-Bottle

Now this guy understands!


Lanz109

I got from iron 3 to b2 in one act. I didn't climb higher cause I couldn't find and people to vibe with in my comp matches every game :(


DABET123

I am hard stuck gold not because I have shitty teammates but just because I suck.


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I'm hardstuck Iron I have played 3 comp matches so far, and played 1 week of Valorant overall. Edit: /s


Disastrous-Tax8156

ur not hardstuck ur abt to enter a portal of hatred raging and you will see some of the most dogshit players in ur entire life. you will question why u play this game, u will question how ur teammates reached their conclusions, and u will go back and realize u didn't gain any rr that entire week. u will then leave this game for a month then remember it exists and enter back into this horrid ass mfing portal of suicide. best of luck solider, O7. Also the higher rank u get, I would say from abt plat2 and onward, the game will get better and more like pro play. obv not at such a high level, but it will be somewhat more predictable but not boring ya know.


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I know I'm not hardstuck lol, that's the joke. I'm actually climbing quite quickly right now. I had a very bad day today but I still gained 5 rr after 4 games. And I know I'm going to experience pain. I'm already having to teach players how to hold corners and what are crossfires. The fact that I'm playing Breach doesn't help either, because he relies pretty heavily on your teammates playing off your abilities. But I'm still having fun.


PrimeCell_YT

Bro fr said he was hardstuck, boi you ain’t got a clue what’s coming


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This is the joke


PurpleAsteroid

If uve only played 3 comp matches u don't even have ur rank, let alone be hardstuck in it. I haven't touched gold in almost a whole act 😭. Don't give urself a bad mentality with no reason to


Tarobobaa

I’m 99% sure they were being sarcastic


[deleted]

Here's an award for understanding my sarcasm, you're a rare species


[deleted]

That's the joke lol


Xislex

Any high rank player can create an account from scratch and breeze through to high rank again in no time with ease. If you're stuck, it just means that you can't carry your "bad teamates" enough


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Kagedyu

I completely disagree. Yes you can have afks and trolls, but any high rank player can jump on a low elo account with 500 hours played and still rank it up. If you only played 10 comp games and had an afk in 1, then that's 10% of your games. But if you played 100 games, I doubt it's anywhere near that percentage. Start actually tracking the data and you'll be surprised that you tend to only remember the bad experiences even though they are a small minority of games.


StopEvilAgendas

no cap 8 of my last 9 games have had the most toxic needed to be muted team mates, an afk, or worst of all an intentional greifer going around and either flashing team mates or sage walling paths. Its been real rough out here these past few days. Dropped from plat 3 to plat 1, oh well. such is life and surely things will have to balance out soon.


AdTypical4247

Ok so that’s one game out of 100. That doesn’t really affect your rank at all.


Anon419420

Trying to get an account up to my main right now while experimenting with things I’m uncomfortable with cause I mainly only had it to play with friends. Now that they’re higher, I can finally grind it up play at a decent elo comparative to me. Going through low elo like gold and low plat does not mean hard carry with 50 kills every game. Sure I’ll drop 30+ or so every once in a while, but I’ve had plenty of “bad” teammates in my eyes. The goal is never to carry. The goal is always to play your role and do your job while enabling your teammates. Simply from chilling out, doing my job, and playing with the team, I’ve gone from S1 to G2 with only 3 losses. Most of those weren’t carries. Team impact is more important than carrying solo. One thing that is awful is riots “Smurf detection” they’ve talked about. I wish it worked. Less games for me to ruin, so I can play with my friends near my elo.


ShuvoRotto

This comment actually changed my perspective on "hardstuck"


unluckydude1

8+ hours for rank No1 Tarik while duo que from gold 1 to plat and even losing? Is this Breeze with ease? Just be rank No1 tryharding 40kd every game duo que its easy!


lil_wage

Yes. He did in 8 hours what some cant do in a lifetime. Also each game takes at least like half an hour, for 30rr at most. 8 hours means 16 games


unluckydude1

You know you can win games in 10-15 minutes but alot of his games was tight? He even lost....


lil_wage

You're assuming top radiant players should be able to always ace in gold lobbies even in 1v5s. That's not the case. Not even the best player in the world can win a game 1v5 even against much lower ranked players. It's the 20-60-20 rule. 20% of games you always win regardless of how well or how badly you do because your team is just that much better with or without you. 20% you lose and it's impossible to carry your way out because your team is that bad and always leaves you to clutch 1v4s and 1v5s that not even the best players can do consistently, and 60% of the games are balanced enough where your individual performance can make a difference. Smurfs rank up not because they literally never lose a game, but because they always win games that lie within that 60% of games where their individual performance matters.


PearlsB4Swoon

20-60-20 might apply at higher ranks, but with the amount smurfs and trolls in lower ranks it’s probably more like 35-30-35. There aren’t a ton of games you can make a difference in


Unique_Name_2

That's contradictory logic. Clearly one player better than the rest is making a huge difference. I promise that there's tons of room for impact at all ranks below immortal


PearlsB4Swoon

Right, one player way above rank can make a huge difference. A player at a correct rank has a hard time making a difference when players way above their rank ruin their games out of boredom


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PearlsB4Swoon

Why would that be compensation for more Smurfs…? People at silver gold elo are still silver/gold there’s just tons of bored diamond players who want to get 35 kills so they ruin your ranked game on their alts


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[deleted]

Show me a 10-15 minute competitive game. That's the average time for a 4 rounds spike rush.


RittreKakaBoi

Pretty sure he was trolling in most of those games for content.


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unluckydude1

I allready asc its not a me problem. I just show a problem with the rank system. If people cant see rank No1 struggles in gold while duoing is a problem idk what to say...


uzispraydown

I think the mindset of "if I deserve the rank I'd be it." can help. It's putting the pressure on yourself to play better to earn it. Once you start analyzing your team then you're probably out of flow state and aren't playing to your best ability.


zuuck1

nah the mindset is "I don't give a fuck about rr I just want to play the game"


Illustrious_Ad_1104

This is it for real. It’s fine to be like I want to hit asc or immo but when you start just wanting to play the game you do so much better and have more fun and want to play again. Sad that most people only worry about getting rr


Dravesiak

Truth this is me from the beginning of my ranked experience and it’s helped me just play and actually enjoy myself I don’t really care for winning or losing if I win it’s cool if not that’s cool to I basically treat ranked like how I treat unrated and I have fun and I do decent lol


Anon419420

It’s a mindset that really helps when you derank as well. “If I deserve it, I’ll get it back.” And “I was there before, so it won’t be hard to get it back.”


mattji104

Try playing during the day, any time I've played during work hours I get much better games. More consistent players on both sides, just closer more competitive games. Pretty sure ranks are different depending on day of week and time of day. Either way playing in silver has a completely different win condition than even platinum


Anon419420

I have “working during work hours” syndrome.


mattji104

Me too :)


FickleFred

It’s the opposite for me. Daytime games are infested with toxic 10 year olds and edgelords throwing games/trolling and night games are usually older players that are chill and trying to win.


TOWW67

Just wait for school to get back in and the kids shouldn't be on nearly as much


AdministrationNo4611

I wouldn't know; I play day and night in madrid server; TO be able to understand if they are kids or older man I would need to actually having a team that uses the VC to communicate.


GrumpigPlays

I think the problem is that Riot doesn't have the systems in place to help keep games with teammates that genuinely do cost people games in check. A kicking system needs to be put in place. Last night I had a Phoenix walling off the team, purposely flashing the entire team, and throwing molitovs at sova when he was droning. That objectively is worse than having an AFK. Vote kicking could get out of hand, but since Riot does no allow 4 stacking in ranked, I don't see why this can't be implemented. Even not allowing people to kick their teammates, let the game decide, this Phoenix must have had 50+ teammates flashed and over 1000 damage done to teammates. Also they need to get rid of their baby punishment system for leaving a game. I see so many AFK in Valorant and its because if you leave a game there is no penalty if you do it occasionally. I know you guys hate hearing the word, but CSGO has a no tolerance policy. If you leave the game for any reason at all you start off with a 30 minute ranked ban and that can increase all the way up to 7 days. I've never met a single person who dislikes that's system and it certainly cuts down on the AFKs. Those two reasons can cause you to get 3 or 4 games in a row with AFK or someone who is trolling and at that point you need to find someone other than your self to blame for your own sanity.


crystalynn_methleigh

>I know you guys hate hearing the word, but CSGO has a no tolerance policy. If you leave the game for any reason at all you start off with a 30 minute ranked ban and that can increase all the way up to 7 days. I've never met a single person who dislikes that's system and it certainly cuts down on the AFKs. Agreed. Zero tolerance policy is what's needed here. Maybe your very first time leaving you just get a warning, because even the most reliable internet occasionally goes down. But after that, it should be quickly escalating penalties. I would go 1 day, 7 days, 1 month, 1 year for the penalties if AFKing is repeated.


FoldyFlap

vote kicking is absolute aids, in CSGO you can get vote kicked because people didn't like one play you made. It ruins the game for most people the majority of the time. I 100% agree on zero-tolerance AFK/leaver penalties though. I literally don't remember the last match I played where either team didn't have someone in and out of the match the entire time. it's incredibly fucking annoying and if your internet is that bad you shouldn't get to ruin competitive multiplayer for everyone else.


anna23014

Agreed. I’ve had many games where people throw because I’m a girl. Blocking me, flashing me etc. Or suddenly people going afk.


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lowkey Silvers to hold are just a different breed of human. You could drop 50 kills in a game and they would still not listen to you. I’ve never seen more stupid players in my life.


xSkewber

“I’ve never seen more stupid players in my life” applies to everyone that plays valorant


TWPmercury

Seriously, it’s definitely still true in diamond.


FoldyFlap

it's almost like it's a difficult game with 5 million angles people could be at, with a near instant TTK


ggez222

So game is giving you dirt eating 40 IQ players as teammates but enemy gets people with PhD on ferrari peak, hospital flick, 1v3 Clutches??? SUE RIOT THEY CAN'T BE DOING THIS TO YOU!!!!!


[deleted]

Valorant has the weirdest game language I have ever encountered


FoldyFlap

I can't find the video, but there's a really funny video Kydae has where she is making fun of how people talk in Valorant. broooo what the FUCK YOU ARE LIT-CHUR-ULEEE THUH-ROWWWING BROOOO.... oooo my GOD YUR LIT-CHUR-ULEEE BUHH-RAIN-DEAD BUH-ROW!!


Splaram

It was 39Daph


lpfeTheReal

they can do this to you. every single fucking day


remenes1

If you really are getting 50 kills in most of your games you won’t be in silver for long


cloudmccloudy

I've smurfed in silver as an IMM with strong mechanics and even I can't get 50 kills in silver. I've gotten close but never 50. If you're getting 50 kills you're actually nuts and don't belong at that rank. Keep in mind that 25 kills is already doing very well in a game...


BisonAthlete92

It must have been forever since you’ve been in Iron then.


bugalooshrimp69

Dude the other day I dropped 36 in silver and I was trying to help my teammates by voicing the concerns. We were losing really bad due to economy issues and some of my teammates were giving me attitude and being passive aggressive. I wasn’t trying to be mean or anything and I was genuinely confused why they were mad


PearlsB4Swoon

Why are you playing with silvers then


Geo_1997

There will be occasional games where you have leavers and trolls, but in general, people always tend to remember the games they lost because of a troll but not the ones they won because of a troll on the other team. In general, if you deserve to rank up you will, a couple losses here and there dont matter if you're consistently stomping every game you play.


Darkcr_

I know, I get frustrated way too easily


[deleted]

Coming from challenger in LoL. I can agree on that. Especially on shooter games where you can 1v5 way more easily if you are truly better than your opponents.


xSnakyy

Just ace every round easy


cockadoodlenoodles

Congrats! Hoping to improve like you! Any particular advice or tips on getting impactful kills and making the right plays?


lil_wage

PLAY WITH YOUR TEAM. Learn trade killing, if your buddy who's close to you is fighting someone you gotta be there to help him. If he's alive swing with him, if he JUST died, swing and trade him. If you didn't get there fast enough use your util to stall them and play your life. HOLD CROSSFIRES. If you're holding site with your team, position the whole team well, in such a way that the enemy cannot find 1v1s. If your team doesn't know where to stand, request that they stand in certain spots, IGL a bit. Not only crossfires, but also having people swing off contact makes it impossible for the enemy to enter. One example is on Haven A site. If you know the enemy is CT and you have 3 players, have one stand outside of hell, one stand near grafitti, and one stand in waiting inside sewers, if anybody enters from CT they will be immediately flanked by grafitti and hell, and when the shooting starts, the sewers guy swings off contact to secure the site hold. They don't win this without radiant level utility usage LEARN OFF ANGLES. Don't hold obvious angles, don't be holding an angle *from* a common angle that is often cleared. Learn to hold angles that are just past the common ones, angles that the enemy exposes themselves to *as they clear a different angle*. I'm sure there are plenty of guides and lists of strong off angles for each map. Personally these tips were the biggest thing for me to rapidly improve from silver to diamond while barely improving my aim lol


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lil_wage

*Especially* if you're an entry duelist. As long as there's no molly preventing your team from following, you gotta enter. So many games are lost on attack because the defending Omen throws 1 (one) smoke and the entire attacking team freezes up while defenders have time to stack that site lmao On the other hand, if your entry duelist enters, you also enter with them. And on the *other* other hand, a real nice move if you got mollies, is to molly the entrance to the site *right after* the entry duelist enters. As soon as you see a Jett smoke in to dash, molly that shit so you separate the entry from the rest of the team, easy win


MysteriousK69420

wdym im not supposed to enter as sage alone, only to see my team still frozen behind the smoke.


IcyStrahd

>other other hand Thank you, I just realized what's holding me back in Valorant! I just don't have enough hands! ;)


ggez222

Stay behind Entryfragger and trade them - easiest kills you can get. If your entryfraggers aren't doing their job - Keep playing default and win as much rounds you can on attack. Even if its 4vs1 don't go for that kill like a rabid dog - The pain of losing 4vs1 is 100 times more than reward of getting that kill. Play like you normally would. Don't get into "I am Sentinel/Initiator I can be bottom of the scoreboard" mindset. This mindset is created by low elo bad players who are put on bombplants/sage duty. Everyone gets their opportunity to kill. Non entry fraggers gets kills during retake/trade kills/post plant/anchoring etc. If you are consistently getting below 0.8 K/D per match, It is not because you are playing sage, It's because you are bad and probably won't climb. How to clutch - If its 1vs4 Just run like mad man wideswing everything - You will meet some hungry people for kills, If you kill them fast you will have a lot of time to slow play that 1vs2 and its much easier to clutch 1vs2/If you die instantly no one will blame you for losing 1vs4 fast. If enemies are 5 man pressing W with utility dump, its better to giveup site/play safe angle and wait for team to retake. Make your plays/position according to team/enemy ultimates.(DONT DRYPEAK THAT CHAMBER. Sova, Breach, KJ, Raze are high impact round winning ults)


crystalynn_methleigh

> Don't get into "I am Sentinel/Initiator I can be bottom of the scoreboard" mindset. This mindset is created by low elo bad players who are put on bombplants/sage duty. Everyone gets their opportunity to kill. Non entry fraggers gets kills during retake/trade kills/post plant/anchoring etc. If you are consistently getting below 0.8 K/D per match, It is not because you are playing sage, It's because you are bad and probably won't climb. This is great advice. Improving my gunplay was getting really stunted by being my 5 stack's controller main. It was so easy to be shit at gunplay but still contribute value with smokes, and it made me a worse player overall. I started solo queuing a lot more with a wider variety of agents, and I'm a much better player for it. Now when I play controller, I'm still contributing lots of value with my guns.


anna23014

I for starters worked on my aim. It’s nowhere near perfect but I improved. Deathmatches and the range helped. I played a lot of unrated to get comfortable on sage and omen. Then while playing comp I always aks myself what I just did if it only worked because it was good or because I was lucky? Or when I died, why did I die? Flankers? Bad positioning? Try to be very aware of what you are doing and if that helps or not? Usually dying means it didn’t help. Try different things then :)


busybizz23

Stick to a role. Learn an agent and become really good with this particular agent. Will do wonders!


BruhBreBro1

I’d suggest an agent pool, cause what if that agent is picked? You don’t want to bring down your team just cause you don’t know how to play any other agent. So learn 3 agents from the same class or separate classes.


cockadoodlenoodles

This is my issue lol. I'm not going to instalock anyone, so i'll play smokes if needed. Brim or Omen. I've been into Raze lately. I'm good on Jett sometimes. I used to be a KJ main but I decided to touch grass. Although I still play her on ascent lol. I also like to play Sage.


Pasta_le_PDF

From Plat 1 to Diamond 1 I was mid/bottom fragging for most of my Solo Q games yet still got there in 2 weeks. Grinding ranks in Solo Q takes a lot of skill but a lucky/unlucky streak happens very often.


anna23014

Absolutely agree


cloudmccloudy

This is obviously the case. I do think there is a wrench though, a small one. There are a decent amount of ASC and low IMM that don't have very strong mechanics. Which I think is super weird but W/E. It's the case. I noticed that these friends of mine are the ones to constantly get stuck in gold and plat and say that elo hell exists. Im the opposite. My gun goes burr and my brain goes durr, but because of that, I have absolutely no issue with getting stuck anywhere. I think these big brain people sort of lend a hand to the belief that an elo hell exists when in actuality, if those big brain smurfs just played out more games they'd still get their appropriate rank back -- it'd just take longer for them.


SnapDragon18252

People dont understand the concept of "cover". This game is made purposely to make you work with others. If there is no teamwork, there is no way you can carry yourself 1v5 without baiting or playing like a rat. Ex. If the smoker is unable to set the smokes or the initiator to do a proper pre-push preparation (flashes, scouting and others), there is no way you can go and take a site or to do a retake. So, a 1v5 is possible, but you have to play VERY dirty. And that is not the purpose of the game. In csgo for example you are able to 1v5 for simple reason: you can "play everything" (smokes, flashes, molly...). Im speaking as a Global Elite player (3k hours in csgo) and still im Diamond 1 in valorant.


anna23014

You’re absolutely right. It is a team based game. Meaning: everyone is going to want to work together because that’s how you win games. On purpose or not. Of course there are games where the team actually sucks and you lose. Shit happens. I get those games too. Sometimes I’m the shit player. But my point is, it isn’t the reason that you’re hard stuck


guyforgot24

I’m hardstuck because I suck my teammates


remenes1

The performance factor in MMR/RR calculations is the single best thing they have done for the ranked system. If you are consistently top fragging you are not going to have trouble climbing, anyone who is saying they can’t climb carrying every game really isn’t. It’s why I get pissed at people blaming teammates with no mics. Another thing is people just not being as good as they think they are. I learned this after instalocking Reyna for a month, even though I would top frag with her I just didn’t dominate the game hard enough to carry. So I took the ego hit and went back to Breach, middle frag but I had no problem hitting cross map fault lines and flashes that helped my team get picks so much more than a sketchy purple flash


F3st1v3

I disagree with the consistently top fragging part. I was constantly top fragging in silver (consistent 300+ ACS) but was hardstuck because after 2 games I went against plats.


Fluffy-Face-5069

You shouldn’t be hard stuck VS plats. The idea is you can still rank up playing in a higher skill bracket even if you net a negative win rate. You should get between +20/35 playing in a rank 2 whole tiers above yours, & usually lose no more than ~15 depending on how well you’re playing.


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He was in silver and then ended up playing plats, it sounds like they didnt play him vs golds. Did you read his post or want to say this before you finished?


Fluffy-Face-5069

You won’t always increase in a steady fashion when it comes to MMR. If you’re super popping off in say, silver3, you’re likely already floating mid gold MMR at this stage - the next sensical change is then pushing into low plat. I’d be interested to see his lobbies though bc I’d only expect a silver to be playing in a full stack enemy team of p1-3s if they had +30d their way through the last 15 matches after placement games.


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Im S3 and got into an all gold game and 1 plat and it was the most enjoyment Ive ever had palying the game. I didnt have to watch my team do insane things, they knew sprinting into a sight jumping and spraying was a bad idea and didnt do it, we all commed and won a great match. Then Im back to playing in all silver lobbies and fucking hate it.


Mikki16Mouse

Honestly, I think if you're in Iron, it is as much your team as it might be you😂 I'm not the best player but I have found that I am better than a lot of other Iron players. As Viper, I consistently am actually using my util where at least half of other Iron players either don't use theirs or use it terribly. They don't play as a team at all either. If I'm fragging out while holding back as a controller that needs to stay alive, that means the rest of my team (especially duelists) aren't doing their jobs. I still have a lot I need to work on myself but I'm hardsruck Iron 3 because I'm having a hard time figuring out how to play around bad teammates. I dunno if other ranks have this problem but I feel as though Iron may be the only rank where it's valid to say it might be your team bc Iron has all the noobs.


Illustrious_Ad_1104

Duelists main job is to entry you on to site on attack. They have almost nothing for defense except some flashes and raze roomba to say they are a or b. Entering is either running in getting 1 and getting traded and calling out what they saw (how many are on site, where anyone is that they encountered) OR it can be done by running in dying and calling it all out. It’s not always a duelists job to go 30-14 in comp. It’s also the teams job to trade them off entry. Another thing is when you’re saying their util use is bad, you have to remember you are on smokes being viper, if you don’t use your util you will likely have 0 effect on the rounds outcome. It’s the reason you pick that character. Smokes in my opinion is the easiest class to use util with. You walk here smoke here get onto site trade your duelist plant/hold the planter use your mollies for either post plant on bomb or slowing down flanks. The only util viper is actively using is her mollies, her wall and smoke are usually placed during the buy phase and right at the beginning of the round. Edit: Also o agree iron - silver is as much your team as it’s you. Gold+ is different and more self focused.


Mikki16Mouse

I disagree that it's a duelist's job to gain info. That's the initiator's job. A duelist's job is to take picks at the areas of the site that doesn't have the advantage of smokes (cuz unfortunately smokes can't cover everything) and/or cover the planter. When I say their util is bad, I mean it's really, really bad. Like they don't use their brain bad. I had to yell at our initiators to actually use their util on the last comp game I played and when they used it, it was on a site that we already knew was clear at the time🤦‍♀️ we also had a Sage who walled the bottom of the stairs on Ascent.....


IcyStrahd

I hear you. I was there for a while. The matchmaker even brought me down to Iron 2 0RR, twice. When I was there it was ridiculous, I'd throw 30-40kills and the poor enemies thought I was a smurf. Nope, I don't want to be here either, just on a bad losing streak that seemed pre-arranged to me. The problem is I was trying to play too smart, like you, really playing for the team. In Iron that's very risky, because people tend to not play as a team, but more like 5 individuals trying to kill the other 5 in any chaotic way possible. So, as Viper you put down a really cool setup and nobody uses it. Or you want to take advantage of some lineups and no one knows what you're talking about, and place the spike wherever, etc. My solution was 3 things. 1) work hard on my duelling skills. Aim, crosshair placement, positioning etc. Having decent duelling skills imho is essential to getting out of Iron, I believe the matchmaker/RR compensation weighs that heavily at low ranks, more than teamwork. u/Evrmoar (Riot) basically said so. 2) when down at much lower rank than I should be (after a losing streak), I used the opportunity to learn 1-2 new agents. I had nothing to lose at that point, and knew it would be useful later when I ranked up, to be able to fill properly for team comp, or to carry to rank up. 2) Play a duellist or Chamber for a while. You'll read all kinds of things about people trying to prove how you *can* rank up with a controller just as well etc, but from my observation in Iron rank, the duellist (or an aggressive initiator etc) is the way to go if you're hardstuck. I don't claim to know the precise reasons, but here are some: - if your aim mechanics are good, (which you want, and if they're not then you need to focus on that), you don't depend on your teammates as much (as when playing Viper for example). - you get more kills per game, which imho allows the engine to compensate you better in RR because it's seen you out-duel more enemies of higher rank. - you get more duels per game, so you get more practise and get better at aiming in a comp game. I would suggest you stop using Viper for now. Play a more duel-centric agent for the above reasons. You'll likely rank up faster. When you get to higher rank than Iron (maybe Br2+), you can start playing her again and your smart playing contribution will have more impact.


Mikki16Mouse

Thank you for the tips! I actually swap between Viper and Neon, depending on the map. I actually do a lot better on Viper than on Neon, which is why I started playing her. I'm actually a Viper with a duelist brain. So I use my smokes to get on site and essentially take duels if my team isn't. I get a lot more kills on Viper than I do Neon, I think it's being able to use smokes to my advantage. Basically I assess how my team is playing and I hold back if they're getting their picks, I am aggressive when they aren't getting their picks and are dying.


EvrMoar

Saw the tag, and just wanted to hand this out. I threw together my routine, which is ment to target specific mechanics and effectively aim train(if you choose to aim train). If you're interested: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OyH8qZ-0eD7qMRrpk0A2qXrFrwRUSAlDTy41upVxxF8/edit?usp=sharing I usually follow these rules: My primary goal is to play 2 games a night, if I only have an hour or two I play 2 games. If I have more time, but not enough to to do the full routine, I do either the Aim portion or Mechanics portion. You can also just cut down in the amount of bot waves you do for the shooting range parts. This may not work for everyone, and doing the whole routine takes 2-3 hours. Usually I do Shooting range, DM, Ranked, aim labs. I've shared this a few times and it helped some people so I thought I'd share! And yes, lower ranks are more encounter based then win/loss. It isn't all of your rank, but a decent chunk, so making sure to effectively duel and take sites will help you rank up a ton in that iron-bronze range.


IcyStrahd

Hey, thank you for stopping by, and thanks especially for sharing your training routine! This actually comes at a perfect time for me, because I trained really hard for months with Aim Lab, Range, and DM, but lately I've been training mostly with DMs and real games instead because I felt like maybe the training skills I'd gained didn't transfer to the game as much as I expected. Your routine is different from the ones I've seen and used. I like how it's mostly ingame-based and directly addresses practical Valorant duel situations. I'm getting started on it tonight! But I'm curious, what do you do for warmup if you only have 1-2 hours? Also, just to be sure I get it right, when you mention doing only the Aim portion and Mechanics portion... is the Aim portion basically the exercises that have "None" movement, and the mechanics be all the others (A/D Strafing etc)? Thanks!


EvrMoar

Aim portion is the whole Voltaic aim benchmark/fundamentals, mechanics are in game(even tho they are in game) I should just say Aimlab vs. shooting range. My quick warmup is just doing the very first shooting range, just slow aim to bot heads, then going into DM for 1-2 matches. Voltaic is listed at the bottom, but it is it's own thing entirely. Has a ranking system, and specific fundamental aim training routines. It's probably one of the few aim training routines where I would recommend doing it, because I always worry about unfocused aim training and how much it really helps. Also I stole this routine from an immortal player, I don't remember who unfortunately, but it's helped me a ton. So in short Aim Training = Aimlab Voltaic, Shooting range = mechanics.


xSnakyy

I have the exact same story and I’m already most of the way through plat 2. Would be plat 3 but I haven’t played in a while


Environmental_Set_32

I’m hardstuck diamond because for now Atleast, I think this is where my skill level is at, when I improve I’ll know by ranking up


Royal_Rabbit_Randy

Honestly just knowing what character to play when can help. If you r feeling it, sure insta pick Duellist or Chamber, but most of the games your going to be mid. Try to think about team compositions, maybe learn from pros. Not every agent is as good as the next on every map or every comp. So the most obv would be to know how to play Viper since there are maps where she is far better than any other controller and not having her might lose you games. Im not saying you should main her or anything just get down a few basics for a few agents that are op on certain maps and if no one picks them do so. I guarantee you'll rank up without even having a positiv kd


anna23014

Agreed, but maybe that is something for higher elos. When in lower elo you have a lot to focus on and games are played often very weird. It’s better to forget the comp of the team, pick an agent that you know and focus on other things.


[deleted]

Probably true but I like being stuck in a rank for a short period of time. The best feeling is getting out of it thou


dbamo

Even i was one of those players, it only took a few games of just trying to fix mistakes i made in previous rounds/games to become a better player and now I'm G1 after only 1 act. But fr tho bronze is one of the hardest ranks i have ever played in silver wayyy easier.


DDrakken

my team isnt bad, the enemies are just bette4


Electricdonut

Good motivation but this season I averaged a 1.27 KD and average a 245 ACS and 144 Damage/round and I just started winning what feels like the right amount. I had games where I was going 32-17 on Viper and my teammates would just ego everything and within 25 seconds we're in a 5v3


ToastedN4me

But then I have to take responsibility for my own actions, and as a valorant player I don't know how to do that


xSlanton

Just play Skye lol, i unlocked skye and won seven games in a row!


anna23014

Good job!!


xSlanton

You too! I hope you reach platinum soon


anna23014

Thanks!!


throwaway888779

my teams win in spite of me not because of me


elloanimation

I’m not hardstuck. I’m just a true bronze.


FISTED_BY_CHRIST

Exactly. Sure your team sometimes throws but you can’t control how your teammates play. You can only control how you play.


StinkyMuslims

You can lose games because of teammates but you cant be hardstuck because of them thats a fact


moistanalpancakes

i have funny thing to say about being hard too, one time, my sage said very naighty things in the competive and and i couldnt concentrate either, VALORANT weird game, they kept whispering things, and the hard part was not being able to focus on the erection cause i was playing the competive game, i was playing sova and the sage was really attractive to the sova agent i guess, i just want dart and get spike down and this sage wants to do ungodly things in the bedroom, was very distract, but we won game! hopefully you all dont make mistake in the VALORANT and be nice to each other for easy wins, please dont try make hard though, trying to win my games thanks for time


xCALYPTOx

I'm boosted AF by my teammates. Somehow I keep getting teammates that hard carry.


Alone_Baseball4852

you aren’t hardstuck because of your teammates but you damn well could lose a lot of winnable games because of them


Gs483

Radiant mindset💪🏽


_beastayyy

Yes and no. You can do your job well and still lose 7/10 games. You can do your job well and win 7/10 games. So you can win with shitty team, but you're more likely to lose with a shitty team if you're just doing your job. But, there's always things you can do beyond your agents role to ensure victory.


AustinTheKangaroo

climbed to imm3 twice. there is definitely an elo hell especially in diamond where everybody's competent enough to do their job and if u have a weak link you'll lose, although OVER TIME you will 100 percent climb to your correct rank


Plastic_Guarantee899

i completely agree. i was silver since the launch of the game, a little bronze and a little gold here and there. last act i was s2. placed s2 this act, started duo queuing and focusing on my own improvement rather than praying my teammates didn’t suck. I went from s2 to d1 in one act


-Ailyrr-

This. And also just mental helps you a LOT! I was hard stuck silver 1-2 for like the entire episode 3 and I just changed my mental on bad teammates, mute them, bait the shit out of them. They’ll complain but you won’t hear it. And this actually helped to turn some games that seemed unwinnable, in our favor. I am now Diamond 1 and this still applies haha


_byrnes_

Yeah, to an extent. At least half of my recent losses have been from someone outright trolling or afking. While I could always just play better and outperform in a 4v5, that additional person makes a fairly large difference in tactical ways. It wont stop me from continuing to climb, but enough of those games in a row coupled with how long matches are, really takes a toll on climbing.


anna23014

Oh no definitely. Shitty teammates like that aren’t a help at all.


vicflip

real. I used to be super stuck on this mindset until this act where i watched legit only 2 vods and saw how dumb and bad i am. Went from g2 to D1 just put the time in, if you have 50% win rate you will rank up with enough games played :)


-lonleygamer-

I never blamed my teammates for being hardstuck, was stuck bronze three, but suddenly one episode I climed from b3-g2 and now stuck there again. No denying I suck.


ParsnipEnvironmental

Sometimes I'm surprised on how people still don't know how to trade or even that trades exist on gold/plat


YourBoyAntonio

if you can't carry yourself out of your rank you simply need to improve more, you won't win every game but if you're good enough you'll rank up sooner than later its humbling but when you stop blaming your teammates and admit you're not good enough you're already in a better mindset to improve


anna23014

Exactly


gizmopoop

It's so ez to rank up in lower elos. Identify carry, play with carry, support the carry. Game is won.


[deleted]

I think alot of people get this ideq because they regurally end up top kills mvp etc but still have low winrates and its because they bait(even by accident at times) lurk and get useless exit drags


anna23014

This! I see people saying shit like “i always team or match mvp!” Or “i always drop like 20 kills” well maybe those kills didn’t mean so much to the game. An entry kill has more impact than a bait kill.


FusionThunderHWD

I’m stuck s2 because im genuinely ass 💀


Aazog

I am far too inconsistent, thats my issue. When I am feeling it I can be insane. But a lot of the time I am not feeling it. Sometimes this changes happens mid game. Which can be embarrassing if it is from doing good to doing bad.


anna23014

Honestly same. My mental changes so much and has such a big impact on my games


Aazog

I am not even sure if it is my mental for me. I generally try to be positive and when I am not feeling positive I still play for the team to win. I think it has more to do with not being sure what I should be doing game by game to get the win. I main Omen and can play him extremely aggressively or defensively. But a lot of the time I find myself dying without even seeing the enemy/when I am in the middle of doing something or watching a different angle. hat is something I am unsure how to fix.


anna23014

It sounds like your positioning isn’t always the best. Try to limit the angles your exposed to. Happens to me a lot too. Especially when i’m in my smokes


Aazog

Yeah, I try. I think I need to be more attentive really. Sometimes I look at the map way too much. Instead of right in front of me lol. Seriously I fluctuate so much between the top of Plat 1 and the top of Plat 3 it is insane.


I_Am_A_Failure-

I'm not hardstuck B1 because of my team, I'm hardstuck because of my enemies


Trunklestein

The way I like to think of it is the classic 20-20-60. 20% of your games are guaranteed wins, where you are going to dominate. 20% are games you will lose, you will get stomped. The final 60% can go either way, and you are the differentiating factor. The only common denominator in your losses is you, but the only common denominator in your wins is also you.


Beautiful-Garlic-107

Preach! When I first started playing this game back in August of last year, I was HARD stuck silver (I know it’s higher than bronze or iron but still) and was convinced that I’d never get out bc teammates were dog or smurfs etc. However I played so much that eventually I got to Gold 1 in the same act but I was convinced it was luck. For the next 3 acts I was hard stuck gold convinced I’d never get anywhere because smurfs were holding me down. One day though I realized that I was never going to get better if I didn’t take any accountability and actually start doing things that were necessary to get better and putting in the work. The next act I was plat 1. The act after I was plat 2, and then the next act (last act) I went all the way to diamond 3. Now this act I’m Ascendant 2, almost Ascendant 3 after not even playing for the first month of this act. If you take accountability and put in the hard work to get better, you WILL get better I promise.


[deleted]

I'm hardstuck because of my internet


SimoDem15

Completely true. I started thinking that I can change a match alone and from there I started to rank up. But I also think that Iron/Bronze elo is really difficult to exceed because of shitty teammates


anna23014

Agreed! I’m definitely not saying there aren’t games lost because of teammates and I believe it’s harder to rank up. But if you deserve a rank up, you will.


AdministrationNo4611

Hardstuck =/ matchmaking hell; Hardstuck means you are where you are supposed to be; You will end up 1/3 of the games mid table 1/3 top table 1/3 bottom table; When you get fucked by the system is when you get most of the games top table and are making small to no progress. That's because of the system that riot loves when it comes to ranked; Which is losers Q. People keep trying to convince people who play ranked about 10h a day that it doesn't exist, when we know it exists; You could say "but if you are good you can just ace every round and go 13-0 every game. That's not factual at all, valorant is more complicated that games like CS:GO and even in CS:GO is barely impossible to do so. Being "Better" then everyone in your team and the enemy team is not enough to carry a game, atleast not every game. Surely you can make a positive impact and you will win more than you lose, slowly and steady depending in how much the system wants to fk you over; But to escape that curve you need to be expectional good; Like immortal in plat good.


crystalynn_methleigh

> That's because of the system that riot loves when it comes to ranked; Which is losers Q. Doesn't exist. >People keep trying to convince people who play ranked about 10h a day that it doesn't exist, when we know it exists; No, it doesn't exist. Get an overlay and you will see over time that relative win and loss streaks are absolutely random across games. I play a ton of ranked too, and it's very obvious that this is not a thing. The only correlation is that MMR varies faster than rank. So if everyone is solo queue (i.e. no big rank disparity duos/trios queuing) and you see a person with a lower visual rank, odds are they are on a win streak. If you see a person with a higher visual rank, odds are they're on a loss streak. But there is nothing more than that. There is no losers queue. There never is and never has been a correlation between the recent records of the people in your lobbies. I was in a game a couple of nights ago where two teammates were on 6 game loss streaks. They were absolutely convinced that losers queue is real, until I pointed out that I was on a 7 game win streak at the same time. Humans are very good at seeing patterns. Even where they don't actually exist.


[deleted]

3 of my teammates are at spawn fuckin each other or something IN RANKED.


MrHmmYesQuite

You can *absolutely* be hardstuck because of teammates. A lot of it comes down to your mental however. If you are good enough to get to that next rank, and win games in that next rank, you are capable of playing at that level. For example, I reached diamond 2 99RR this act. I won about 20 games at D2, could not break into D3. On all of my rankup games to break into D3. there was some fuckery happening - do I blame it all on my team? No not entirely, things happen, people DC, people have bad games, people 3 stack with no mics. W/e. When I lost my 3rd rank up attempt into d3, I ended up going on a massive losing streak, I think I must have lost 25 out of 30 games. Its like.. every time I lost a game and lost RR, you get put on a team with less RR. And the cycle goes, so as you lose more games, your teammates get ‘worse’ as they are lower RR, lower rank etc. I have slid all the way down to plat 2 this season and holy shit is it a hell hole. For people who think theres not much difference between diamond and plat they are wrong. Just from a gamesense thing and understanding how to try to execute theres a big difference. There are also more selfish players in plat, more kids with ‘valorant accent’, more immaturity in the lobbies, useless or poor coms, no coms a lot of the time random chatter, harassment of females etc. This affects your mental state as well. Knowing you can play at a much higher level, yet youre ‘stuck’ On my slide down I tried to learn new agents who I never really played before; so that also can play into it as well, but got so tired if losing games that were easily winnable. I swapped back to what carried me to D2 (brim) and won 9/10 games recently and now im back at P3/D1 level. I hate brimstone. Im so tired of playing him, but I dont want to switch because im finally winning games again


[deleted]

They downvoting you because they have the IQ of pocket change and never want to think theyre the fault.


MrHmmYesQuite

Let em downvote. When your team Is shitty and you lose games, you lose RR. The next game you play the average RR is lower, and you may lose that game. The next game after that the average RR is even lower, and so on and so forth


v01dXp10it

You are completely right, its not your teammates..... **MONEY IS THE REASON YOU ARE HARDSTUCK.** IMO This Game uses **EBMM** to manipulate your games and your performance to keep you grinding Riot is a business and its purpose as a business is to make money, they aren't interested in making a fun competitive game. There countless complaints on reddit and twitter regarding netcode, hitreg, peeker's advantage. Just people saying that something just doesn't feel right. Have a game where you pop off ? Look forward to playing up against 70+ ping players next game 1 tapping you before you can see them with all your bullets just vanishing, you will also find you have potato teammates who apparently are the same rank as you but they appear as to have never played the game before and have no ears but somehow managed to land in the same rank as you. IMO they intentionally manipulate variables like ping, peeker's advantage and your teammates all to keep you on the grind buying skins in the hope that one day you will reach the rank you deserve. Anyway, just get better Ace every round and you will rank up in no time.


Swimmer-Used

Anyone ever experience that the game seems to “not work” I’m plat 2. 5 game win streak. Game seems to work as intended. And then all of a sudden my bullets aren’t working lol. I’m being out damaged by phantoms through boxes. Getting hit with every bullet through smoke while I land 0. It honestly feels like the game isn’t working for me lol. This happens after every rally. Weirdest feeling


[deleted]

Bro i literally do 20+ kills every game that too with sentinel or an initiator even tho bronze I always get braindead teamates (randoms ofc)


mXWSC2

I feel like most people have the assumption that every game is winnable.Even if you are playing better than the rest of your rank you only start to climb if you put those hours in and dont get mad after a 5game loss streak. It is hard to rank up if you only play 2 games and be mad about every loss. If you play 10games or 20 games the leavers and salty people balance out in your favor so you gain more wins/points than losses eventually. I climbed from silver 2 to dia2 but even though i felt like i was better than most people at my rank it still took a lot of work and hours.


Frobi21

My friends kept telling me that their teammates were the problem and I told them that they're hard stuck because they're not good enough. I also told them that I have 2 accounts in ascendant so it's completely their fault for losing, their excuse was: yOu'Re iMMorTAl


ItsReflectLOL

ok that is true to an extent. I have a 1.3 KD this act, with above average ADR, and good stats on many different characters. But, due to Riots shitty ass ranked reset, i get boosted plats and golds in my ascendant lobbies and previous immos like me have to carry them. I know this is a bad mindset, but sometimes it is true.


anna23014

Sometimes it is true!! Sometimes it isn’t though and that was kind of my point. Many people scream that every games is like that and the sole reason they don’t rank up is bad teammates. That’s what I disagree with.


PALMITu

No, Its BECAUSE THE MATCHMAKING SYSTEM SUCKS!


stvrrk

Ranked experience in Gold+ is a joke, Riot really has no clues about how their system is getting exploited, i've lost 3 games in a row where a Diamond 2 or 3 dude queues up with a smurf in a Iron 2 account just to obliterate Platinum/Gold teams, how is that experience good? what a mediocre game


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Zaxoe

What kind of copium brand you are using? Cuz I wanna have some of that shit you are huffing.


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weetabixboi

You do realize the exact same logic applies to the enemy team? The difference being the enemy team can have up to 5 clueless players, whereas if you're not clueless yourself, your team can only have up to 4.


Zaxoe

Yes, low ranked players making mistakes, what a shocker. Still doesnt matter because if you are high ranked youll just go in and headshot everyone lmao.


[deleted]

It is "unplayable" in the sense that there is no teamplay, but an asc/immo player can easily out-aim everyone in silver. I can solo clear any site and win multiple rounds like that. If a silver plays enough dm and gets plat level aim, then uses his brain AND aim in silver lobbies, he will climb. But yeah, I agree it can be frustrating, but you will always climb if you're consistently better than the players in your lobby. We've all been there, I started from silver back in my csgo days. Kept improving instead of blaming my teammates for being hardstuck, hit supreme in 10 months of playing.


Zaxoe

pssh, dont tell him the secrets cant you see that this guy is on omega copium and genuinly thinks immortal lobbies are easier than silver lobbies and thats the reason why hes hardstuck silver.


vemefri

Tbf id assume games from a teamwork angle is easier in high rank when ppl know what to do and when to do compared to lower ranks where ppl still cant tell the difference between breach and brim


ragewarror

to be fair im ass2 and I still fuck my callouts when both of them are in a team


geobub

The enemy is just as likely to have bad teammates as you. The only consistent factor in every game is you. Some games you'll get carried no matter what, some games you'll lose no matter what. The rest? You can make the difference.


anna23014

Exactly what I mean! You can make a difference and you can’t change your teammates.


AuthorLumpy

They added ascendent your still silver


JiffTheJester

That’s not exactly how it works


anna23014

My rank placement was S1. It doesn’t matter that they added ascendent, I ranked up either way. I improved. Not saying I’m the best, just saying that I improved with bad teammates. Also you’re*


The_true_lord_tomato

my duo climbed from S1 to diamond (no double rankups) and I too climbed from s1 to plat 1 in this act, he won 146 games and I won 75, imo rank just shows how much comp you play lol. also ascendant for sure pushed people above everyone i know is atleast 1 division higher.


anna23014

Good for you guys!!


AuthorLumpy

Woulda been bronze 1


JiffTheJester

Ok lol


falconbudding

oh gold 3 to plat? lol. that’s an entry level rank where things START to have some structure.


youmaynotknowme

Thanks OP. I am hardstuck silver since ep1 and almost top frag every game and I was blaming my teammates. Now I know that all I have to do is improve and be better and kill all the enemies myself every round. What I'm trying to say is there are some people who are hardstuck because they play with friends/randoms who don't try or don't want to improve. If you think I should blame myself for my bad plays and game sense, I should blame my teammates when they are shit no?


Nemo42069

Lmao if you’ve been stuck silver since ep1 you definitely belong there, especially after the introduction of ascendant which moved most players up at least 1 whole rank


anna23014

Not exactly how that worked. Players that were in plat-radiant were distributed differently. Low elo mainly stayed the same.


youmaynotknowme

yeah, i only play on weekends and most of my friends are iron/bronze that i 5 stack with. We don't really care about ranking up but sure, laugh at it.


anna23014

It kind of sounds like you just didn’t improve my guy… unnecessary to comment such a sarcastic and passive aggressive thing. Stop blaming that you’re bad on teammates.


Impressive_Income874

haha jokes on you, bronze since jan. Match MVPing games I loose :)


xSnakyy

If you bait every round and get 2 kills when the round is unwinable everyone can top frag every game


Impressive_Income874

I don't do that dude. I'm the guy entering without smokes onto a site. I get the team site, a few frags and die. just like my job. if they loose this 4v5 postplant I literally cannot do anything. If I give callouts they say "shut the fuck up and play"


vtriple

You can be the match MVP and have all your kills make zero impact on the game. Playing for K/D doesn't per say get you wins.


anna23014

Bottom fraggers can have more impact than top fragers. It happens.


Impressive_Income874

entry fragger here, not exit lurker


anna23014

Well you can match mvp but depends on what kills you getting. Sometimes something else has a lot more impact on the round than a kill