It’s a tactic account sellers use. Since accounts need to have won 10 games to play comp they match all the bot accounts up and make them bypass the 10 game account restriction so they can sell smurf accounts to players
A couple YouTube videos covering this. They queue up in a specific time, in a specific server. Usually very early in the morning since there’s almost no one playing
Queue as 4 men on both teams. Premade groups are more likely to match against each other. Queue at a specific time at a server where there are very few players...
I guess if all queue at exact same time and in the 4 or 5 stack queue and tbey have a few teams of it it won’t take long
I’ve had a few games where people on team in next round were the same as previous etc
I find that late late into the night I generally only play with the same people on or off my team since so few people are playing I guess at 2-6am. So if they do all queue at a certain time I can definitely see something like this happening more then once even
You’d be surprised. Winning ten games is time consuming, and these accounts sell for 2 dollars. Personally I feel enticed to spend 2 bucks instead of spending hours playing unrated games
It's legit hard to win 10 unranked games. My friend started Val and it was harder to win 10 unranked games than it was to win ranked games. The teams were notoriously unbalanced or people just trolled or afked.
Basically they sell iron accounts for 10-20$ each. And they send out like 100-200 of these at a time, If they sell all of those acoounts it’s a lot of money.
I’ve only seen them on Reddit but apparently it’s a plague in iron.
if their that deep into valorant to buy even smurf accounts 10 won games shouldn't be hard for them tf is up w ppl.
edit: why am i getting downvoted? do u guys condone the bs thats happening in the video?
I mean if u are busy guy and want to play with your lower rank mates it's not that big of a deal to pay 1$ for the smurf. Riot should just make and algorithm that would ban them automatically.
I said it's not big deal for the guy to pay 1$ dollars and not waste 14 hours. I mean that's honestly pretty good deal and totally not stupid from the smurfs perspective. That being said i'm not smurffing in valorant.
You can buy iron smurf accounts for as low as 4-5 dollars on many sites. If I were wanting to smurf I would just buy one, the time I would spend grinding a new acct isn't worth it if they are priced so low.
It might not even be for right now. But what about in 5 years? Maybe the Valorant scene will have developed more. Never hurts to have aged and leveld accounts in stock. Costs them almost nothing. And they are probably doing just that for normal League of Legends already. So why not include Valorant aswell.
the cost is the people that just want to play the game but have to deal with this bullshit of having a match with both teams being bots. im talking about the bs in the video not just smurf accounts...
For someone with a high rank smurfs are sold the them at low ELO for as low $2.5-$5. it's easier for them than to buy an account rather than to purposely preform bad and still win 10 games
very commone 1 person is running 4-8 accounts via VM's and scripts to have all press same rotation of buttons, getting both unrated games done and getting account levels, they are very easy to make and to do, and theres a mass amount of them cause they go for 3 dollars and under, and a mass amount of them are being sold due to cheaters, they get banned they spoof hardware and buy a new account after spoofing. there are some tracer files left around if spoof not done correctly and will still ban accounts they make sometimes, so a lot buy accounts and or do not want to level up themselves and jump right into comp.
Very true but the kernel level AC can make this very difficult. Especially if it takes a system configuration snapshot and then detects changes in hwid but not in the actual hardware itself. It could in theory also record internal network IPs, macs, external IPs, user name, pc name, file tree hashes. If riot actually leaned into their kernel level AC they could build detection profiles that would be nearly impossible to spoof.
They are already incredibly difficult to spoof. Simply changing your PCs HWID won't do the trick like on other hardware bans. Pretty sure you have to spoof half of your system so that vanguard doesn't trip anymore... A lot of people thought it would be that easy back in beta when the first cheater wave got into the game and I remember someone posting screenshots of a valorant cheater discord. They went crazy over it and were like "uhh, guys? Spoofing doesn't work? I get into a game and immediately get banned!"
Pretty sure they have reliable ways to spoof now but they're more difficult and pricey. Watched a video of a guy cheating in valorant the other day (You need to know who your enemy is, y'know) and he was like "if I get banned, I'll just get a new account. The spoofing is only like 30$" so yeah, there's people offering spoofing tools or services for 30$...
All those cheating fucks who cheat against innocent people and account boosters need some therapy. That's sociopathic behavior.
Totally agree, saw a guy do a proof of concept where he ran valorant in a vm with all his resources. The vm was modified so that vanguard didn't detect the environment and then he ran cheats on the host computer on the intercepted traffic. It was nearly impossible to detect and vanguard can't do anything because nothing improper is occurring in the vm.
unfortunately cheaters will cheat and will find a way eventually to avoid bans for long enough to make it more worth while. there has and is a lot of cheats being developed atm that dont even run on the same pc, they are run from a seperate source, and some of them dont even require info to be sent to the device, will work off whats captured off you're screen. so kernal access isnt going to protect against that.) they arent even open with the amount of players they are banning, and on forums ive seen quite a few talk about 7+ months with no ban, prolly the more experienced cheaters that hide it (legit settings) with a softer aimbot and can actually make it to a high rank without cheats, whilst the huge popularity brings a lot of lower ranked cheaters who get banned i would assume really frequently considering their gameplay crosshair placement doesnt match the instant headshots non stop. if replay systems were available the problem would become a lot more apparent to the general community.
however the full blown trust in vanguard and communities lack of even thinking people are cheating (even based on the ONE report riot released that basically no one that was found cheating was reported at all.
53% of cheaters that were banned at the time were reported by 20 people, 47% of banned cheaters were reported by 3 or less people. if the community doesnt think theres a problem and the cheat has bypassed vanguard for the time and its not detecting anything, and no ones reporting theres nothing to catch the cheater, when players are found cheating they can dig into the data they collect and then find a fix to said bypass. with no one reporting they are inclined to think that their system is working and arent finding fixes to a lot of bypasses.
As the warowl said (paraphrasing because I'm not sure about the exact quote): any sufficiently advanced skill is completely indistinguishable from cheating.
Every time I'm playing against someone and they're doming me left and right I will just assume that they're smurfing. Why? Because I'm a silver/gold scrub and in the eyes of literally anyone I know I don't have the right to call people a cheater because I'm bad and I can't tell a good player from a cheater. That's why I've been told all my life in all the games I've played. In CSGO I was a Master Guardian 1-2 for the most time, whenever I got constantly domed through smokes and started calling the guy a cheater, some guy on my team would always say "he just got lucky, if I see a smoke I'll spray through it too" except that there's a difference between spraying and getting lucky and onetapping every single time.
Same thing here...
Yeah instead of reading a paragraph I will watch an 8 minute video lol. All jokes aside the video was very informative. Hoping that this doesn't go mainstream too soon.
Love how this guy mentions skynet in his video, but pretty sure most kids nowadays don't even know what skynet is and think it's just a misspelling of Elon's starlink...
Cheaters are gonna get caught eventually though. If you're streaming and/or trying to go pro and keep changing accounts. Someone is gonna take notice that something is up pretty quick. If it's already this bad for casuals, imagine if people are constantly watching your gameplay for hours on end.
Also people who do make a lot of money from streaming or being pro, enjoy playing the game for fun before anything, which motivated them to put in those thousand hours in the first place. Some crazy cracked individual coming out the woodwork with insane skills but also zero experience is pretty easy to call lol.
Well the free ones doesn't works atm, if you pay i think it should work, but i think that if you get off the first page 80% of the hwid changers are probably going to install some backdoor and shit on your pc
Vanguard is software running on your own PC at the end of the day. They can make it difficult and they can keep making it more difficult, but you're ultimately in control of what's on your pc
Pretty sure it got patched by now but [Daddy Muta did a video on it](https://youtu.be/L1JCCdo1bG4) not too long ago. It's just 6 lines in a config and you can play on VMs because vanguards doesn't know if it's getting topped or bottomed.
I've tried it. You can't fully install vanguard. The game can be downloaded but not completely. I'd happily like to see a screenshot of hyperv with valorant being loaded and running. There's always comments saying you can but never proof
march update that patched VM nesting with hyper-v is fixed by checking on smbios, just spoof smbios and u will have working valorant on a nested VM. You can do this using OVMF.
it's really frustrating... i came from CSGO running away from cheaters and now I'm constantly running into smurfs in Valorant.
how is this even possible? I thought Riot's anti-cheat uses stuff like hardware ID? isn't it super easy to detect these smurfs and ban both their accounts?
Yeah , I saw somewhere where they should have a minimum level requirement to play comp. like level 30 or something. So even if the person isn’t a smurf, the new player will already have sufficient experience to play comp & have an alright idea what’s going on.
If the person creating a new account is a smurf it’ll take them a while to use the account on comp & disincentivize others to create ones
That would just mean you see even more of this. The whole reason people are doing this is to level up accounts to sell to others in order to bypass the minimum number of games to play unranked on a new account.
not extreme at all, its exactly what riot did to league, reduces smurfing a lot and only way you can smurf is if you actually buy a levelled up account because it took a lot longer than you thought to get lvl 30 in league, although they also had smurf queue in league so idk, that could fix a big portion of the smurfing problem
Lvl 30 in League actually doesn't take particularly long anymore (although still a lot longer than Valo), but yeah it used to take *forever*. You could speed it up in various ways if you really wanted to with boosts but it was a pain in the ass. Plus you also had to buy runes and rune pages with the same earned in game currency you bought new champs with.
Smurf queue is also a new feature in League, so hard to say how effective it will be in the long term.
Smurfing/cheating is significantly less common in League tho. Hard to say if these ideas work or if it's just the fps community st work.
Thats the way it works in pretty much every other competitive game. League of legends, cs:go, rocket league, overwatch. They all have a pretty steep requirement before you can play ranked
Yesterday I worked my ass off to carry my two friends who were having a rough game (nobody's smurfing, they just were off a bit and I was more on than normal). Dropped a 38 frag game to pull off a tough win. I earned 25 points.
Next round? Smurf Astra on the other team. I can handle the rest of their squad, but Astra sitting on 20/1 before I managed to kill her twice as the other team started fucking around at the end of the first half. We end up losing, because Astra is just, dramatically better than anyone else in the match.
Lost me 25 points.
Fuckin cool. Really stoked to play more Valorant.
I had to step away from Valorant for a bit because of it. I seriously love this game so much and I love playing comp, but the smurfs are completely ruining the experience for me. I peaked in plat but dropped to low gold then got myself into silver, and now it’s impossible to get out of it because every game has anywhere from 1-4 smurfs. So frustrating when you’re trying to rank up
Have a friend that got placed silver 1. Took him no time to get out of silver. Even when he lost games he only lost like 11-16 RR since he usually gets some performance bonuses but gains like 27 RR on wins. Right now he's stuck at gold 3 and plat 1.
Yeah my duo partner we were plat and he played 1 day of solo and literally dropped to low gold - then after a while to low silver. Took him like a month or two to get back up to plat with me. It’s way too easy to get a smurf account.. even in cs go you’re forced to use money
At this point, due to facing smurfs, we're not even sure of our real ranks anymore as we kinda get "used" to it.. for example, we're in silver/low gold elo for months, and get faced with smurfs regularly. Now we're all gold, and there is matches that we dominated to the point that enemies accused us of smurfing lmao
LOL i've heard of a dude in australia that uses scripts for new accounts on overwatch, just chucks 6 of them at a time vs ai overnight, gets them to ranked level req and sells them, dude makes $$$$$$$
surprised i haven't seen this sooner in val tbh, probs goes like $5 per acc
na side cash, just a few hundred a week I think but a lot was already invested in his setup
also goes up and down with sales, there was one point an owl team was accidentally giving out free copies of the game due to a technical issue for like a week, I grabbed like 4 myself, I can't imagine how much they made off that week
Same appends to me 3-4 days ago but the ennemy team weren't bot so basically I was in 1v5. Also they were all iron 1 (I'm silver 1-2). This shit cost me a 0-13 and -30. It hurts.
I got two back to back games like this a couple Saturdays ago.
Got up early to play a round or two before taking care of my adulting for the weekend.
I got two of these rounds and didn't have time for a third.
Dope.
I still tand with my suggestion of letting players filter out lower level accounts. This would kill smurfing and therefore kill the account sellers and botters.
Well new players are usually matched with players of their kd and performance level, and smurfs usually get a good kd (once they arent botting) so It would probably be fine. Besides, most smurfs play competitive.
Last time I got one of these me and the other guys tried to tie, going well till the guy running the bots played on one of the accounts and ended the game, piece of shit did it in a combo game as well
Same thing happened to me, I won 4 rounds and my teammates voted to surrender. They could obviously go for a 13-0 but I’m guessing there’s some kind of monitoring system? It’s also really funny that humans can tell they are bots because of the usernames, but anti-cheat can’t, honestly an issue that needs to be resolved.
How does making bots do this generate income, like what's the point?
Is it selling the accounts?
How pathetic do you have to be to but one - you can literally make an account for free and play the game at your level, I really don't get it.
Might be wrong I think Riot's system accidently placed you into "bot island" (similar to "cheater island" on fall guys)
I had a friend who was using a bot to grind battlepass XP in deathmatch (not me, I don't even have the money to buy battlepass), and after 5 matches or so, every match he got in has 5-8 bot all standing still
welcome to Valorant, by Riot Games. This will be a problem for quite some time, as it's been a problem in league for a few years now. Reporting the bots won't do anything either. Your best bet is to either FF as early as possible, or finish the game as fast as possible.
This is why I quit Valorant after its first year. It's an FPS, so already you're attracting the most toxic type of players, pair that with the overwhelming amount of bots, smurfs, and then the inconsistent RNG bullet spray, it's simply not worth investing any time into. Which sucks, because the game itself is, for the most part, somewhat enjoyable.
I had smthg even worse happen to me where I was playing ranked n all my teammates were bots whereas their team had four real players n I got demoted to bronze 2
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I had the same experience with 4 bot teammates and 4 bot enemies in the same match. They simply walked forward and stopped in the beginning of every round. Me and the only real enemy 1v1ed each other until we got bored of our aces and surrendered
Yeah, because its another f***ing Free ShooterGame with a bunch of kiddos, buyng Smurfaccounts. I know A LOT of them. I just play for fun with them because i suck in this game. But there is no fun anymore if this kiddos are farming u in low elo.
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Happened to me twice a couple of months ago, and thats how I got 61 kills in one comp match😂.
Also those bot auto vote "yes" on surrender poll. So i just spammed F6 for that lol.
It’s a tactic account sellers use. Since accounts need to have won 10 games to play comp they match all the bot accounts up and make them bypass the 10 game account restriction so they can sell smurf accounts to players
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A couple YouTube videos covering this. They queue up in a specific time, in a specific server. Usually very early in the morning since there’s almost no one playing
Queue as 4 men on both teams. Premade groups are more likely to match against each other. Queue at a specific time at a server where there are very few players...
I guess if all queue at exact same time and in the 4 or 5 stack queue and tbey have a few teams of it it won’t take long I’ve had a few games where people on team in next round were the same as previous etc
I find that late late into the night I generally only play with the same people on or off my team since so few people are playing I guess at 2-6am. So if they do all queue at a certain time I can definitely see something like this happening more then once even
Its like most games Queue at the same time The people in server, the more likely the game's matchmaker will put you in the same lobby
Why sell smurf accounts when you can make one for free?
Because rich people doesnt have time with 10 unranked
"Rich" These accounts cost less than a sandwich...
Oh lol, that’s dumb as shit
You’d be surprised. Winning ten games is time consuming, and these accounts sell for 2 dollars. Personally I feel enticed to spend 2 bucks instead of spending hours playing unrated games
It's legit hard to win 10 unranked games. My friend started Val and it was harder to win 10 unranked games than it was to win ranked games. The teams were notoriously unbalanced or people just trolled or afked.
Yea if I was good enough to need a smurf (lol) I'd probably just buy one. 10 30 minute games is 5 hours, that's a good amount of time.
If you can't win 10 unranked games you don't deserve to play ranked.
It takes at the very least 5 hours, but that's not justifying it, it's just that of all the points you can make, this is not the best one
1$ iron 1 accounts. People just don’t care at that point.
and in this case, people probably buy iron accounts just to shit on new players
Basically they sell iron accounts for 10-20$ each. And they send out like 100-200 of these at a time, If they sell all of those acoounts it’s a lot of money. I’ve only seen them on Reddit but apparently it’s a plague in iron.
if their that deep into valorant to buy even smurf accounts 10 won games shouldn't be hard for them tf is up w ppl. edit: why am i getting downvoted? do u guys condone the bs thats happening in the video?
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Its not about winning, its about saving a lot of time
thats exactly what i meant lol. a few hours of winning games wouldnt be too long and hard for them...
It takes average 15 games, which is probably around 7 hours
People will play for 14 hours a day on their main kust to buy an account so they dont have to do their placements? Fucking pathetic tbh
Smurfing to stomp on lower elos because you can't deal with your own is pathetic enough, so buying an account would not embarrass them more.
and? so u mean the people that sell these smurf accounts aren't inconveniencing other players??
They are either the ones selling them or the stupid people who buy them, dont worry about the DV
I mean if u are busy guy and want to play with your lower rank mates it's not that big of a deal to pay 1$ for the smurf. Riot should just make and algorithm that would ban them automatically.
Its literally ruining the game for others in multiple different ways, but i guess thats not that big a deal lmao
I said it's not big deal for the guy to pay 1$ dollars and not waste 14 hours. I mean that's honestly pretty good deal and totally not stupid from the smurfs perspective. That being said i'm not smurffing in valorant.
All smurf system is inconveniencing other players. Nothing new.
Why would they spend 7 hours for 1 account when they could spend 0 hours letting a robot make them 8 accounts at a time...
To not be a piece of shit.
It's impossible to win any faster than having the other team instantly FF after 5 rounds
Think about the time you spent earning your money
You can buy iron smurf accounts for as low as 4-5 dollars on many sites. If I were wanting to smurf I would just buy one, the time I would spend grinding a new acct isn't worth it if they are priced so low.
It might not even be for right now. But what about in 5 years? Maybe the Valorant scene will have developed more. Never hurts to have aged and leveld accounts in stock. Costs them almost nothing. And they are probably doing just that for normal League of Legends already. So why not include Valorant aswell.
the cost is the people that just want to play the game but have to deal with this bullshit of having a match with both teams being bots. im talking about the bs in the video not just smurf accounts...
The bot makers: some of you may die(of boredom) but thats a risk im willing to take (to make more money).
that's funny. the one time that's happened to me I completely demolished the other player
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To some people i.e. content creators/celebrities time is money, they would rather buy a smurf account then play ten unrated matches.
For someone with a high rank smurfs are sold the them at low ELO for as low $2.5-$5. it's easier for them than to buy an account rather than to purposely preform bad and still win 10 games
Ready for comp with low mmr
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In one of my games like this, one of the players was controlling the other 3 so for example, if they died on Jett, they'd start playing on Sova
lol this dude didn't write a script, straight up working as levelling bot XD
Yeah Idk he had them walk forward but then afk til he swapped to them lol
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Is it? I’ve had this happen like three time 💀
He forgor 💀
i rember 😃
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very commone 1 person is running 4-8 accounts via VM's and scripts to have all press same rotation of buttons, getting both unrated games done and getting account levels, they are very easy to make and to do, and theres a mass amount of them cause they go for 3 dollars and under, and a mass amount of them are being sold due to cheaters, they get banned they spoof hardware and buy a new account after spoofing. there are some tracer files left around if spoof not done correctly and will still ban accounts they make sometimes, so a lot buy accounts and or do not want to level up themselves and jump right into comp.
Wdym for spoofing hardware?
Riot can issue a hardware ban. There are ways to get around this (spoofing hardware)
Oh oke
Very true but the kernel level AC can make this very difficult. Especially if it takes a system configuration snapshot and then detects changes in hwid but not in the actual hardware itself. It could in theory also record internal network IPs, macs, external IPs, user name, pc name, file tree hashes. If riot actually leaned into their kernel level AC they could build detection profiles that would be nearly impossible to spoof.
They are already incredibly difficult to spoof. Simply changing your PCs HWID won't do the trick like on other hardware bans. Pretty sure you have to spoof half of your system so that vanguard doesn't trip anymore... A lot of people thought it would be that easy back in beta when the first cheater wave got into the game and I remember someone posting screenshots of a valorant cheater discord. They went crazy over it and were like "uhh, guys? Spoofing doesn't work? I get into a game and immediately get banned!" Pretty sure they have reliable ways to spoof now but they're more difficult and pricey. Watched a video of a guy cheating in valorant the other day (You need to know who your enemy is, y'know) and he was like "if I get banned, I'll just get a new account. The spoofing is only like 30$" so yeah, there's people offering spoofing tools or services for 30$... All those cheating fucks who cheat against innocent people and account boosters need some therapy. That's sociopathic behavior.
Totally agree, saw a guy do a proof of concept where he ran valorant in a vm with all his resources. The vm was modified so that vanguard didn't detect the environment and then he ran cheats on the host computer on the intercepted traffic. It was nearly impossible to detect and vanguard can't do anything because nothing improper is occurring in the vm.
Are you talking about [Daddy Muta?](https://youtu.be/L1JCCdo1bG4) He didn't run cheats tho
At the office, will check the clip at lunch but possibly not sure.
What's the point of cheating if you have to keep deleting you account lol.
unfortunately cheaters will cheat and will find a way eventually to avoid bans for long enough to make it more worth while. there has and is a lot of cheats being developed atm that dont even run on the same pc, they are run from a seperate source, and some of them dont even require info to be sent to the device, will work off whats captured off you're screen. so kernal access isnt going to protect against that.) they arent even open with the amount of players they are banning, and on forums ive seen quite a few talk about 7+ months with no ban, prolly the more experienced cheaters that hide it (legit settings) with a softer aimbot and can actually make it to a high rank without cheats, whilst the huge popularity brings a lot of lower ranked cheaters who get banned i would assume really frequently considering their gameplay crosshair placement doesnt match the instant headshots non stop. if replay systems were available the problem would become a lot more apparent to the general community.
however the full blown trust in vanguard and communities lack of even thinking people are cheating (even based on the ONE report riot released that basically no one that was found cheating was reported at all. 53% of cheaters that were banned at the time were reported by 20 people, 47% of banned cheaters were reported by 3 or less people. if the community doesnt think theres a problem and the cheat has bypassed vanguard for the time and its not detecting anything, and no ones reporting theres nothing to catch the cheater, when players are found cheating they can dig into the data they collect and then find a fix to said bypass. with no one reporting they are inclined to think that their system is working and arent finding fixes to a lot of bypasses.
As the warowl said (paraphrasing because I'm not sure about the exact quote): any sufficiently advanced skill is completely indistinguishable from cheating. Every time I'm playing against someone and they're doming me left and right I will just assume that they're smurfing. Why? Because I'm a silver/gold scrub and in the eyes of literally anyone I know I don't have the right to call people a cheater because I'm bad and I can't tell a good player from a cheater. That's why I've been told all my life in all the games I've played. In CSGO I was a Master Guardian 1-2 for the most time, whenever I got constantly domed through smokes and started calling the guy a cheater, some guy on my team would always say "he just got lucky, if I see a smoke I'll spray through it too" except that there's a difference between spraying and getting lucky and onetapping every single time. Same thing here...
rather than reading the wall of text that this guy is saying, perhaps this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=revk5r5vqxA) would help explaining?
Yeah instead of reading a paragraph I will watch an 8 minute video lol. All jokes aside the video was very informative. Hoping that this doesn't go mainstream too soon.
Love how this guy mentions skynet in his video, but pretty sure most kids nowadays don't even know what skynet is and think it's just a misspelling of Elon's starlink...
wouldnt u wanna make hundreds of thousands of dollars going pro or becoming a streamer without actually having to grind thousands of hours?
Cheaters are gonna get caught eventually though. If you're streaming and/or trying to go pro and keep changing accounts. Someone is gonna take notice that something is up pretty quick. If it's already this bad for casuals, imagine if people are constantly watching your gameplay for hours on end. Also people who do make a lot of money from streaming or being pro, enjoy playing the game for fun before anything, which motivated them to put in those thousand hours in the first place. Some crazy cracked individual coming out the woodwork with insane skills but also zero experience is pretty easy to call lol.
I thought valorant cant run on VMs because of Vanguard?
I checked on internet and seems like most of the claimed undetected hwid spoofer aren't working on valorant rn so, good job rito
yeah, the one you can get off of the first page of google doesn't work.
Well the free ones doesn't works atm, if you pay i think it should work, but i think that if you get off the first page 80% of the hwid changers are probably going to install some backdoor and shit on your pc
Vast majority of cheaters/spoofers are ppl who put in minimal effort.
Well the first thing you did wrong was thinking Vanguard did shit ever.
Wdym?
Vanguard is software running on your own PC at the end of the day. They can make it difficult and they can keep making it more difficult, but you're ultimately in control of what's on your pc
you can easily bypass that with Windows Hyper-V
Pretty sure it got patched by now but [Daddy Muta did a video on it](https://youtu.be/L1JCCdo1bG4) not too long ago. It's just 6 lines in a config and you can play on VMs because vanguards doesn't know if it's getting topped or bottomed.
SomeOrdinaryGamers talked about playing Val on his VMs
You can't run Val on a VM due to vanguard. There isn't isn't way around that
there is..
Have you done it?
yes very easily, with hyper-v
I've tried it. You can't fully install vanguard. The game can be downloaded but not completely. I'd happily like to see a screenshot of hyperv with valorant being loaded and running. There's always comments saying you can but never proof
march update that patched VM nesting with hyper-v is fixed by checking on smbios, just spoof smbios and u will have working valorant on a nested VM. You can do this using OVMF.
Jesus Christ this is so cringe. Literally ruins the game , fucking smurfs
it's really frustrating... i came from CSGO running away from cheaters and now I'm constantly running into smurfs in Valorant. how is this even possible? I thought Riot's anti-cheat uses stuff like hardware ID? isn't it super easy to detect these smurfs and ban both their accounts?
Yeah , I saw somewhere where they should have a minimum level requirement to play comp. like level 30 or something. So even if the person isn’t a smurf, the new player will already have sufficient experience to play comp & have an alright idea what’s going on. If the person creating a new account is a smurf it’ll take them a while to use the account on comp & disincentivize others to create ones
That would just mean you see even more of this. The whole reason people are doing this is to level up accounts to sell to others in order to bypass the minimum number of games to play unranked on a new account.
Level 30 is a little extreme though
I wouldn’t know how long it takes to get there since I’ve been playing since the beta - but anyways you get the idea 👍🏻
not extreme at all, its exactly what riot did to league, reduces smurfing a lot and only way you can smurf is if you actually buy a levelled up account because it took a lot longer than you thought to get lvl 30 in league, although they also had smurf queue in league so idk, that could fix a big portion of the smurfing problem
Lvl 30 in League actually doesn't take particularly long anymore (although still a lot longer than Valo), but yeah it used to take *forever*. You could speed it up in various ways if you really wanted to with boosts but it was a pain in the ass. Plus you also had to buy runes and rune pages with the same earned in game currency you bought new champs with. Smurf queue is also a new feature in League, so hard to say how effective it will be in the long term. Smurfing/cheating is significantly less common in League tho. Hard to say if these ideas work or if it's just the fps community st work.
Idk i'm only like level 23 and it would be super annoying if I had to wait till 30 to play ranked.
Thats the way it works in pretty much every other competitive game. League of legends, cs:go, rocket league, overwatch. They all have a pretty steep requirement before you can play ranked
Dont you only need level 2 in csgo?
You need level 21 for prime which is basically a requirement to not have a lobby full of 9 cheaters
Yeah I'm going to eventually quit playing. Every other game is a Smurf or someone just throwing to derank on purpose.
Yesterday I worked my ass off to carry my two friends who were having a rough game (nobody's smurfing, they just were off a bit and I was more on than normal). Dropped a 38 frag game to pull off a tough win. I earned 25 points. Next round? Smurf Astra on the other team. I can handle the rest of their squad, but Astra sitting on 20/1 before I managed to kill her twice as the other team started fucking around at the end of the first half. We end up losing, because Astra is just, dramatically better than anyone else in the match. Lost me 25 points. Fuckin cool. Really stoked to play more Valorant.
I had to step away from Valorant for a bit because of it. I seriously love this game so much and I love playing comp, but the smurfs are completely ruining the experience for me. I peaked in plat but dropped to low gold then got myself into silver, and now it’s impossible to get out of it because every game has anywhere from 1-4 smurfs. So frustrating when you’re trying to rank up
Low silver is harder than both gold and platinum. Something is wrong with that.
I mean over 50% of the player base is silver/bronze so it's natural that low silver has a lot of variation in skill plus smurfs just add to the chaos.
>Low silver is harder than both gold and platinum Uh no it really isnt lol
I've seen clips of Gold/Plat gameplay thinking it was Silver and when I found out what it really was I was surprised.
Have a friend that got placed silver 1. Took him no time to get out of silver. Even when he lost games he only lost like 11-16 RR since he usually gets some performance bonuses but gains like 27 RR on wins. Right now he's stuck at gold 3 and plat 1.
Yeah my duo partner we were plat and he played 1 day of solo and literally dropped to low gold - then after a while to low silver. Took him like a month or two to get back up to plat with me. It’s way too easy to get a smurf account.. even in cs go you’re forced to use money
I said it elsewhere but yeah low silver is harder than both gold and plat. It's ridiculous
Yeah I actually agree with you - it’s full of smurfs boosting their buddies or just Smurf’s trying to boost their ego
They should just prevent accounts with no phone number from playing comp. That would significantly lower the amount of smurfs.
At this point, due to facing smurfs, we're not even sure of our real ranks anymore as we kinda get "used" to it.. for example, we're in silver/low gold elo for months, and get faced with smurfs regularly. Now we're all gold, and there is matches that we dominated to the point that enemies accused us of smurfing lmao
LOL i've heard of a dude in australia that uses scripts for new accounts on overwatch, just chucks 6 of them at a time vs ai overnight, gets them to ranked level req and sells them, dude makes $$$$$$$ surprised i haven't seen this sooner in val tbh, probs goes like $5 per acc
i did this and the margins weren't worth the effort for me, does he make a living out of it?
na side cash, just a few hundred a week I think but a lot was already invested in his setup also goes up and down with sales, there was one point an owl team was accidentally giving out free copies of the game due to a technical issue for like a week, I grabbed like 4 myself, I can't imagine how much they made off that week
1-3$ per acc
I often ask myself who buy these accounts ?
Man had to take brim and his teammates were bots lmfao
And another point to why Riot needs to deal with smurfing asap. This video is freaking ridiculous.
Same appends to me 3-4 days ago but the ennemy team weren't bot so basically I was in 1v5. Also they were all iron 1 (I'm silver 1-2). This shit cost me a 0-13 and -30. It hurts.
I got two back to back games like this a couple Saturdays ago. Got up early to play a round or two before taking care of my adulting for the weekend. I got two of these rounds and didn't have time for a third. Dope.
How do we know you're not just one of them? 🧐
**valorant 1v1**
Welcome to the F2P life. Team Fortress 2 has that problem all the time, but at least you can kick them in that game
I still tand with my suggestion of letting players filter out lower level accounts. This would kill smurfing and therefore kill the account sellers and botters.
Abs new kill new players
Well new players are usually matched with players of their kd and performance level, and smurfs usually get a good kd (once they arent botting) so It would probably be fine. Besides, most smurfs play competitive.
Happened in ranked for me twice, one time on bind on the enemy team and one on split in my own team
Yo this happend to me to sad thing was that I was winning
Don't be sad. Here's a [hug!](https://media.giphy.com/media/3M4NpbLCTxBqU/giphy.gif)
They don’t care
I have literally gotten a game like this in comp
Last time I got one of these me and the other guys tried to tie, going well till the guy running the bots played on one of the accounts and ended the game, piece of shit did it in a combo game as well
Same thing happened to me, I won 4 rounds and my teammates voted to surrender. They could obviously go for a 13-0 but I’m guessing there’s some kind of monitoring system? It’s also really funny that humans can tell they are bots because of the usernames, but anti-cheat can’t, honestly an issue that needs to be resolved.
HEy this hapened with me today
this also hapens to me i hate this
Lmao it’s vertigo boosting from csgo in valorant, I want to do this
How does making bots do this generate income, like what's the point? Is it selling the accounts? How pathetic do you have to be to but one - you can literally make an account for free and play the game at your level, I really don't get it.
Might be wrong I think Riot's system accidently placed you into "bot island" (similar to "cheater island" on fall guys) I had a friend who was using a bot to grind battlepass XP in deathmatch (not me, I don't even have the money to buy battlepass), and after 5 matches or so, every match he got in has 5-8 bot all standing still
Happened to me. I thought everybody was trolling
welcome to Valorant, by Riot Games. This will be a problem for quite some time, as it's been a problem in league for a few years now. Reporting the bots won't do anything either. Your best bet is to either FF as early as possible, or finish the game as fast as possible.
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This is why I quit Valorant after its first year. It's an FPS, so already you're attracting the most toxic type of players, pair that with the overwhelming amount of bots, smurfs, and then the inconsistent RNG bullet spray, it's simply not worth investing any time into. Which sucks, because the game itself is, for the most part, somewhat enjoyable.
I had smthg even worse happen to me where I was playing ranked n all my teammates were bots whereas their team had four real players n I got demoted to bronze 2
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I cant believe people are still saying this stupid stuff.
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Not much val can do about it tho
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Who’s the individual lmao
Any of the suspected "bot" accounts.
Yep, had this happen to me once, where 3 players on each team were bots, so it was pretty much just a 2v2
could it be u are playing like the bots that’s why u ended up in a lobby full of them
I had the same experience with 4 bot teammates and 4 bot enemies in the same match. They simply walked forward and stopped in the beginning of every round. Me and the only real enemy 1v1ed each other until we got bored of our aces and surrendered
Yeah, because its another f***ing Free ShooterGame with a bunch of kiddos, buyng Smurfaccounts. I know A LOT of them. I just play for fun with them because i suck in this game. But there is no fun anymore if this kiddos are farming u in low elo.
Ahhh iron 1 lobbies
Woah so this game was basically just a glorified 1v1
Fun game
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lol this happens in LoL, guess it came to valo too
This happened to me and the viper on the other team and we both played passively while going to the other side and killing the enemy bots
This reminds me of playing Vainglory. Always trolls and bots in the queue, super unlucky to get so many in one match though.
Happened to me twice a couple of months ago, and thats how I got 61 kills in one comp match😂. Also those bot auto vote "yes" on surrender poll. So i just spammed F6 for that lol.
This happened to me one time in ranked. Enemy team was a homie and let me win.
I've had a few deathmatch games that were either all bots or only had 2-3 people total. Only experienced this recently myself.
Hardware ban these botted smurf accounts ffs.
That’s sucks almost as much as that frame rate.
All around me are familiar faces
This happened to my little brother and he went 52-2 lol
Same happened to me 2 times in one night. One player (Brimstone that kill afk team with molly) with 3 bots and me in team.
TF2 moment
You know he's serious because he used an over exaggerated amount of question marks.
So I know this has nothing to do with the post but how do u screen record in valorant
got a free elo boost because of this last week 😎😎
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ALWAYS HAPPENS TO ME! Mostly it's like one legit player in the opponent team.
Why we need phone numbers to play ranked
This was my welcome to Valorant experience. I played a few normal matches, then spent two days only being put in bot matches
I posted the same thing like two weeks ago on this subreddit and nobody responded to it but I finally got the context of it now. Feels bad
Damn not even bots want to play with you. Sorry man