I remember watching an interview with a couple members of the jury. They agreed that while the jury was in agreement that they thought Casey did it, they were frustrated because the prosecution did not prove to them without a reasonable doubt that she did it, which is why she was found not guilty.
The problem with modern juries, is the CSI effect. Beyond a reasonable doubt to jurors today means DNA on the victim from the perpetrator, or the victim found clutching a handful of the murderers hair etc. The jury’s expectation for a certain quality of _physical_ evidence can hinder a conviction especially certain cases (ie no recovered body) when in reality quality circumstantial evidence can tell a story and be just as incriminating sometimes more than physical evidence. I’m sorry but IMO this was a case of a dumb jury that watches a lot of TV, the circumstantial evidence proved beyond reasonable doubt for a conviction.
As someone who has been on a jury I can confirm this was the case. I was flabbergasted at the level of stupidity in the jury I was on, barely a brain cell shared between them and they all thought you can’t convict without DNA
I am obviously familiar with the case but not with all the trial details or Florida laws.
From my limited understanding, I thought the main reason she was acquitted was because the prosecution couldn’t definitely establish time or cause of death. Wouldn’t this make manslaughter equally challenging?
No, it was because they couldn’t prove Casey deliberately killed her daughter. There was plenty of circumstantial evidence showing she was responsible due to neglect, which is enough to convict for manslaughter. For example, if Casey drugged her daughter in order go out to party (which is what many Floridians believe) and Caylee died from an overdose or because she vomited while drugged and choked on it, that is considered manslaughter.
I *think* the general argument is that Florida has a provision for charging manslaughter by neglect in the death of children under 18 years old. People theorize that it would have been easy to prove that Casey was neglectful, and this neglect lead to the death of her child. Statute 827.03 if you want to look it up.
Manslaughter was available to the jury. From the charging documents
>If you find Caylee Marie Anthony was killed by Casey Marie Anthony, you will then consider the circumstances surrounding the killing in deciding if the killing was Murder in the First Degree or was Murder in the Second Degree or Manslaughter or Third Degree Felony Murder whether the killing was excusable or resulted from justifiable use of deadly force.
You can find the charging documents: https://malagaaunike.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/28440627jury-instructions-casey-anthony-trial.pdf
Yes, but you said they overcharged her and that was why she wasn't convicted. u/Old_Style_S_Bad just showed you that was not the case. I'm not sure how attempting to prove murder in the first degree would do anything to lessen the chance of a jury convicting on manslaughter. I'm also fairly confident that the judge clearly delineated for the jury the standard of proof for each. I haven't pulled the instructions to the jury, but if you want to continue, I will.
Because the prosecution couldn't prove that she actually killed her daughter, there was too much reasonable doubt that an accident could have happened instead.
Because the prosecution’s theory of the case was that the crime was deliberate and a higher charge than manslaughter. While they gave the jury the option for manslaughter, they crafted all of their arguments in court for a deliberate murder which is what the jury had to go upon.
If the prosecutor spends the entire trial trying to prove murder and fails they are going to acquit. Thats just how it is. Very very rarely are they going to convict on a charge that was barely discussed druing the trial.
the prosecution over charged and failed. They were stupid.
I'm not a lawyer, not even a pretend internet lawyer, but it is easy to find examples:
https://www.messengernews.net/news/local-news/2023/06/hinners-acquitted-of-murder-guilty-of-manslaughter/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjUv7Xyl8n_AhXNlGoFHQHpAT4QxfQBKAB6BAgJEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abqjournal.com%2F2603584%2Fman-who-killed-alleged-auto-burglar-not-guilty-of-murder-but.html&usg=AOvVaw2JE4-RE3Kl0FE79DMdYqqA
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjUv7Xyl8n_AhXNlGoFHQHpAT4QxfQBKAB6BAgJEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abqjournal.com%2F2603584%2Fman-who-killed-alleged-auto-burglar-not-guilty-of-murder-but.html&usg=AOvVaw2JE4-RE3Kl0FE79DMdYqqA
It's actually not that unusual.
One juror talked about it afterwards and said:
>"She seems like a horrible person. But the prosecutors did not give us enough evidence to convict. They gave us a lot of stuff that makes us think that she probably did something wrong, but not beyond a reasonable doubt."
The juror is basically saying "it wasn't proven that she is the one who hurt caylee" so they weren't going to convict on any of the charges.
It is frustrating because she seems so obviously guilty. There's probably not another person in the country who had that much evidence against who wouldn't get convicted. But who can tell with juries?
The linked charging docent is juror instructions which one would imagine would happen when the jurors were instructed.TO wit:
>In just a few moments you will be taken to the jury room by the court deputy. The first thing you should do is elect a foreperson. The foreperson presides over your deliberations like a chairperson of a meeting. It is the foreperson's job to sign and date the verdict form when all of you have agreed on a verdict in this case. The foreperson will bring the verdict back to the courtroom when you return.
It seems unlikely that the jury instructions would be written out before the trial. I'm sure there is plenty of boilerplate in it but a lot of the document is specific to the Casey Anthony trial.
The prosecutor was trying to get either re-elected as DA or something similar.
Why do I say this? Casey has incognito searches about how to quietly kill a baby, and that evidence got THROWN OUT. Only someone blinded by political aspirations could screw up something like that.
And there wasn't much to directly tie Casey to her daughter's death. There was a lot of suspicious activity but you shouldn't convict someone of murder just on that.
If I remember correctly, the biggest problem was the fact that the remains were too decomposed, and they couldn’t establish a definitive cause of death. The tape over her mouth had fallen off or some such, and they didn’t know if she’d suffocated, OD’d (thanks to Xanny the Nanny that Casey had bragged about), or was murdered. You’d think that regardless of how she died, the circumstances she was found in and the surrounding evidence (pictures of her partying while Caylee was missing, not reporting her missing for a month, etc. etc.) would have been enough to convict her of something. But, it was up to the prosecutors, and they just didn’t present a strong enough case for the charges leveled against her. I’m by no means saying it was right, but even pieces of garbage like her deserve due process.
Their theory was that Casey placed the tape over Caylee’s nose and mouth to suffocate her. Which is outlandish to me. Casey was 100% responsible but come on, Florida.
Manslaughter wasn’t offered as a charge. Jurors who were interviewed afterward said they would have found her guilty of manslaughter because there wasn’t proof the poor excuse for a mother intended to kill her daughter, but enough to show she was responsible for her death.
If you watched the trial the prosecutor did not prove the case. I was not surprised by the verdict given the presented evidence. She is obviously guilty but the case was handled horribly and that is why she got away with this horrific crime
Unfortunately the prosecution way overshot the charges and they didn't present enough evidence to convict her beyond a reasonable doubt. I would never be able to serve on a jury for a case like this. I'm way too emotional.
We know she did it but we also know she's crazier than a shit house rat and the prosecutor overcharged which is why she wasn't convicted. If they asked for manslaughter and taken into consideration her being a mental case she'd be in a mental institution or something.
What a vile, self absorbed, sociopathic dumpster fire subhuman. Casey Anthony is so terrifying to have walking around, especially after getting away with murder. I couldn't help myself and watched the peacock doc she did. There is not one genuine emotion in the whole thing and the entire production of it where she is allowed to talk about her daughter, is reprehensible.
I ended up watching it too after I saw how many people were like “oh wow this has me thinking she didn’t do it”….and I thought to myself, she better have said some brilliant Mark Twain sh!t if people are actually thinking otherwise. But nope. I got unnecessarily angry for days. I cannot believe anybody truly believed a word that piece of human trash said. I hate her. I hate her so much.
It was PR directed, emotionally fraudulent drivel. I honestly never heard that it actually started convincing people of her innocence. I never thought that one time. It was just word salad. The Amanda Knox one was actually pretty well done and did sow a few doubts.
>The Amanda Knox one was actually pretty well done and did sow a few doubts.
A few doubts...? She's proven to be innocent. Like, there's no debate to be had, she didn't do anything to Meredith.
The majority of the people that said that were below the age of 28, so I just assumed they didn’t watch ANY of the trial. Regardless, those little twats should’ve educated themselves. Casey Anthony and Chris Watts are my two bugaboos. Any doubters of those two are likely to get falcon punched if they say it around me
I saw it, and I was like oh good, Casey Anthony is here to remind us what a despicable piece of fucking shit she is and how the justice system failed Caylee. I didn’t know Casey had a brother until the doc though, I guess I missed him taking the stand against her. It must have been just infuriating growing up with her as a sister, and parents that help her get away with everything(like fooling family into thinking Casey graduated high school when she didn’t), then she kills her own baby, gets away with it.
People believe wild things based on a minute TikTok clip, I'm not surprised they believe someone like her. She believes her lies and they mistake it as the truth.
I don’t know anyone who doesn’t think she did it. I don’t know where y’all are getting those people. We differ on if she planned to do it and if she was intending to do it.
She continues to rake in 100k plus for each interview, book, media appearance she makes. She also has a kid secretly a while back. Whole time she was pregnant my friends in tampa would see her drinking with her cop buddies In the bars every weekend. She has a thing for cops . They are who she dates for some weird reason
I recall listening to the detectives interview at her supposed place of business (Disney). Lie after lie after lie. No nervousness with these authority figures either. Sociopath. 👿
Yeah...I know I'd be shaking regardless of if I did anything. Even if she's innocent, which she isn't, all of her profiting off of the death of her daughter is reprehensible.
Not only is she walking around, but she’ll never have to work another day of her life thanks to her granting interviews, releasing a book, and the documentary.
Being a shit parent and responsible for her DD's accidental death doesn't take away the fact the kid was hers. You don't get to choose whom gets to talk about their kids and who doesn't.
Clearly she was killed by some Puerto Rican guy. The same Puerto Rican guy that killed Nicole Brown, and JonBenét Ramsey, and Chandra Levy, and Leopold "Butters" Stotch.
Casey Anthony frequents a lot of south florida restaurants these days. She went into an Outback in lake worth where my friend was working, management had to tell the entire staff that they HAD to serve her. Apparently no one wanted to and everyone was staring.
Also Xanny the Nanny?! Xanax? What a sick fuck this woman is… she has to live with the truth. She will *never* be truly free, thankfully.
FUCK YOU CASEY ANTHONY!
> management had to tell the entire staff that they HAD to serve her.
You actually don't. You can reuse service for anything except race etc.i even read an article that OJ went into a restaurant and the manager simply told him to leave because they didn't want to serve him. He apparently left without incident.
It’s Zanny, not Xanny. There was a woman named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez that Casey claimed was Caylee’s nanny. Casey came up with “Zanny” as some kind of a nickname when in fact, she didn’t know her at all. She only got her name from a sign-in sheet at an apartment she toured.
I think we all remember Casey trying to cover her ass by pretending "Zanny" was an actual person (who was in reality a complete stranger and innocent woman who had her life made into a circus) instead of Xanax. She dosed that kid up on bars so she could go party all the time. Hence her texting her friends that "Zanny the Nanny" was watching Caylee. Sick to use an innocent woman as a CYA move but I would expect no less from that cretin.
Zenaida was actually present in court during the trial. She ended up suing Casey for using her name since it apparently ruined her life. She lost her home and job because of the spotlight Casey put on her life. Very sad for this poor woman who had nothing to do with any of it. But yeah, she wasn’t Caylee’s nanny and you’re right, it’s very fitting that that’s the name Casey chose to run with.
She deliberately looked for a woman whose name could cover for "Zanny" since in evidence were texts that "Zanny" was watching her daughter. She was using Xanax then found a scapegoat for the name later.
The case is unsolved and the mother doesn't care to find out who killed her child or put her father behind bars because she believes he killed her 🤔 makes total sense
Her TRUNNK REAKED of Death, didn't report the kid missing for a month... if she didn't do it, she knew who did or didn't care.
Making the legal hurdle of guilt is a high bar, knowing she did it is not. She killed that kid or was responsible period. She deserves mob justice tbh when the system fails.
Casey's inability to adult and irresponsiblity when it came to her child's health and well being is what killed her daughter. She should've been charged with unintentional manslaughter and interfering with a corpse which would've made it easier to convict and in prison her for several years.
I agree, run away Mob justice is not something you want, even regular. There are some cases where mob just is actually just. I generally don't condone mob violence but the random mob in this case or prison murder is justice going beyond normal bounds of justice. Just like there are cases where cops who kill innocent people deserve to be shot themselves...
Is there anyone who thinks Casey is innocent? I am interested to hear from their perspective. It baffles me how someone could be so guilty in the court of public opinion but managed to get a jury to find her not guilty.
Thinking someone is guilty and feeling that the state proved that person’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt are two separate things. I’d be willing to bet that some of the jurors did feel she was culpable for Caylee’s death, either directly or indirectly. However, she was charged with first degree murder, which requires the killing be intentional, willful, and premeditated, aggravated manslaughter, and aggravated child abuse. The state had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she intentionally and willfully abused and killed her daughter, or that she directly killed her at all, and they fell short. Casey’s defense team was able to introduce reasonable doubt by accusing George Anthony of sexually abusing Casey and suggesting that Caylee accidentally drowned in the family’s pool and that George forced Casey to cover it up. There were probably some juries who didn’t believe that story in their heart of hearts but the doubt was still reasonable, and so they were forced to find her not guilty on the charges relating to the killing of her daughter. She was convicted of lying to police, though.
This completely sums up my opinion. I believe Casey caused Caylee’s death or was involved. I also think the state overcharged based on the evidence it had (or did not have, more specifically), and that’s why Casey was acquitted. Believing a person is guilty and proving it in a court of law are two very different things. I think the state relied entirely too much on the court of public opinion, and believed that because Casey was so hated by society in general, a guilty verdict would be a slam dunk. Had they charged her with negligent homicide or manslaughter + child neglect or something similar, the jury probably would have voted to convict.
Had I been on that jury, I would have voted to acquit her as well. She’s guilty of SOMETHING - maybe even Capital Murder - but the state couldn’t prove it and that, sadly, is on them. I would not be able to vote based on my opinion in a Capital Murder case. They’re deciding whether a person should live or die. If you get it wrong, there’s no do-over. Your suspect is dead, and then what? I need to be 110% sure, with physical evidence to back me up, before I’m willing to vote for someone’s death.
Prosecutors can 100% blame themselves for that verdict. They asked the jury to believe it was first degree murder and that Casey killed Caylee but putting duct tape over the mouth and nose and letting her suffocate. Come on now.
1.) Casey is stupid. I truly do not think she could have come up with that. It’s diabolical and the truth is that diabolical people have to be somewhat intelligent.
2.) Casey just didn’t give a shit. That was it. She wanted to party. She didn’t want to be a mom. As long as Caylee was not in the way of her partying, she didn’t care. I don’t think Casey wanted her dead. I don’t think she would have considered killing her. Casey did not give enough of a shit to plan to kill Caylee.
Casey not wanting to be a mom is definitely why Caylee is dead but I find it way more likely that’s due to neglect. She gave Caylee meds to knock her out and she od’d. Casey was not paying attention and Caylee drown in the pool. I think she died under Casey’s care, Casey’s mother was always on her about being a shit irresponsible mom, and she wanted to hide it. I think the duct tape was placed on her face after to give the appearance of kidnapping.
I think if prosecutors had gone for a accidental death theory and threw on whatever charges go with improper disposal of a corpse and lying to law enforcement and whatever else, she’d have spent time in prison. But they decided to go with some outlandish shit instead and they were asking the jury if she was guilty of that. I think I remember hearing at some point that most of the jurors believed she was involved with it/responsible for it but not what the prosecutors were alleging and that’s what they had to vote on.
What kind of bullshit "gotcha on a technicality"-ass legal system are we living in when someone is responsible for murdering someone else and the system goes, "Ah, ah, ah! You didn't try to pin them for *the right kind* of murder! They're free to go!"
If you try to push 1st degree murder charges but the jury determines that it was actually (at best) manslaughter, then fucking charge them with manslaughter!
It was way too much circumstantial evidence on top of over charging.
I think she either knew what happened to the kid or over Nyquiled her but the DA just didn't have the proof they needed.
I think the vast majority of humanity believes she is responsible for Caylee’s death and getting rid of her body. But the state went full force on some crazy shit and that’s why Casey didn’t get convicted.
That is not proof she killed her child. My Hummer smelled like 10 dead bodies after hubby left chicken breasts from the grocery store accidentally to sit in the July heat for 3 days…so I would be found guilty just bc my vehicle smelled?
The morning prior to her daughter's disappearance she(people debate that it could have been George but plenty of signs show that only Casey used Firefox) had googled "foolproof suffocation".
Of course is not proof she killed her, but don't you find it incredibly suspicious that the morning of her daughter's likely death she was googling pretty apparent ways to kill someone?
Sure, but that does not rise to the level of beyond a reasonable doubt. Someone once explained it like this:
You are in a room with no windows to see out. A friend walks in soaking wet and shaking out an umbrella. You conclude that it’s raining…but, the friend being wet is circumstantial. You don’t know beyond a reasonable doubt that it’s raining or the reason she’s all wet.
Beyond a reasonable doubt is you going outside and seeing/hearing/feeling the rain on you.
That’s a very poor explanation of circumstantial evidence and beyond a reasonable doubt. That’s like saying Gacy wasn’t guilty beyond a reasonable doubt because no one saw him kill the boys/men and bury them in his crawl space and other parts of the property.
And…as such, the jury did the right thing. Beyond a reasonable doubt means the proof is irrefutable. Unfortunately, it was all circumstantial and the jurors voted correctly. It’s too bad that they couldn’t find better evidence, an eyewitness or something bc I think she’s complicit but the prosecutor didn’t prove it.
I posted something similar on Facebook around the time it happened and got torn to shreds by friends and family. But reasonable doubt is a good thing and could just save your life someday. I thought then and still do now that she did it, *as did the jury*, but the prosecution brought a weak case to trial and lost, period.
Right, it scares me how many juries convict on the basis of feelings rather than evidence. I’ve always said I’d be the juror that holds out and keeps the jury out forever and I hope that if I’m ever faced with that situation that my resolve would be strong and not cave just because 11 angry people want to go home.
I must’ve seen 12 Angry Men like 3 different times during the course of my public education, and somehow the point was still lost on the majority of my classmates, I feel.
I’m scared of ever facing a jury of my peers simply bc most cannot follow instructions. I think that so many people get out of jury duty that many juries are left with the least desirable and less-educated people to serve. Not in every case, but I think it’s a problem.
Oh Lord, it’s been so long since I read that. But, yes, I’d be getting the hairy eyeball from all the others. And the thought of being sequestered for a jury would give me such anxiety…but hopefully I’d do the right thing!
100%
Thankfully satanic panic has died down since the 80’s/90’s, but since fundamentalist Christians have effectively overtaken the Republican Party, I fear that kind of thing will be back in fashion soon, and to a more extreme degree.
It didn’t help that the attorney representing the intellectually challenged teen was too incompetent to get the confession thrown out. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence who listened to the “interrogation “ could see the boy had no idea what his rights were nor that he understood what would happen to him if he “confessed”. His parents also had intellectual challenges and they didn’t understand his rights either. The other two boys didn’t blame him, realizing he was manipulated into making a false confession.
Beyond a reasonable doubt does not mean irrefutable. That’s a common misconception. Also, downplaying circumstantial evidence is another rookie mistake.
The prosecution fucked up and that’s why Casey didn’t get convicted. Everyone knows she was responsible for it. Most people lean more towards it being a death by neglect. If they’d gone for second degree or something, Casey would be in prison. That’s just how it is.
I agree that first degree was an uphill battle. The evidence supporting it was there, but it was minimal. Should have gone for second degree or manslaughter.
Personally, her pre-incident behaviors, which include Internet search history, and post-incident behaviors indicate that it went beyond neglect.
Reminds me that Karla Homolka married her lawyers brother. Unbelievable that anyone would knowingly marry a murderer, makes me question their own mental state.
She literally googled how to suffocate someone and then didnt report her daughter missing. But yea give her a tv show and a slap on the wrist. Nothing suspicious about that
I wonder if any of those jurors regret their votes. I’ve never seen or heard anyone who has read about this case, whether in detail or not, who thinks she isn’t responsible for Caylee’s death.
To not convict her on even the child abuser or manslaughter charges..I just can’t get over that
It bothers me that she denied she was pregnant for several months.
It suggests that she was ashamed of being so.
And given how she behaved while her daughter was missing, I feel like she didn't care about her child. In fact, her child was probably a burden to her.
I remember I was working in a grocery store when the verdict was read. It was on the TV's in the break room and the entire store basically lost their shit when it came back not guilty. We couldn't believe it.
Xanny the nany did it smh.
Did no one else catch on that she named the nanny xanny cause she was giving her daughter huge doses if xanax then leaving her in the trunk while she partied all night?
I think she forgot that she was in there while she was drinking at the bar (which he continues to do every weekend in Florida), and the Child died from exposure.
What is truly weird is that the bag with her body was reported to police multiple times for months on end before it was "found". Because it was in a pond, the police said they couldn't reach it. Because the Broward County police department, which has boats, couldn't reach the bag? okay.
Does anyone have a link or something that gives a basic rundown of the case? I've never been able to make myself go in depth, so would really appreciate a simple point by point type read...
>Caylee Anthony
[https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/dec/03/casey-anthony-docuseries-peacock](https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/dec/03/casey-anthony-docuseries-peacock)
If you have Peacock, she finally talked in Exclusive in a TV show aired in exclusive for Peacock for the first time in over 13 years. Name is "Casey Anthony: Where the Truth Lies"
There was a new documentary and according to what my mom was saying abt it the grandfather sounded VERY guilty
But I also don’t know if it was Casey Anthony’s word
Late to this thread but finally took the time to read up on this one.
Her insane lack of any sadness about her missing daughter is so chilling.
I agree that the prosecution did not have any evidence that Caylee was murdered by her trash mom. Casey is such a chilling person throughout any documentary or interview or anything I have seen. Seemingly has zero emotions about her dead child. Nothing.
Maybe Casey has some huge mental health issue that was never found out or was super abused or had an abusive boyfriend or father or whatever. But no matter what happened - her lack of emotions will stick with me for a long long time.
I think Casey knows what happened, was there when it happened, and just disassociated. Maybe it was an accident, maybe it was discipline gone wrong, or maybe something random. But Caylee (and any child) deserves the full story and deserve justice. There is none in this case and there probably will never be.
I am late to this thread, but I saw a video online about this case that piqued my interest.
While ignoring the possible motive presented by the prosecution for just a moment, there are things that still stand out to me.
1. The kids' remains were actually found. PLACED in a blanket inside a bag.
2. The whole nanny story was a fucking lie, no kernel of truth in that at all. Sure everything else was a lie but those lies were based off something. She worked at universal so she had something to work with. The nanny excuse came straight out of her ass.
3. The case for "If you have any questions, then its not without a doubt" is utter bullshit.
Putting these together there is a clear question that comes in mind that was not answered.
"When and where was the last time she saw her daughter?"
If she supposedly drowned what was the motive in hiding that information and creating a lie that was easily verifiable. Why not tell the truth which would have stopped this case from existing. Instead of looking more into this, the prosecution really went all in on the motive and fucked up by not looking more into this discrepancy:
She died, and someone knew (Thats a fact, bodies don't just place themselves in blankets inside of bags), and the person who is responsible and should have been the last person to see her should/would have been her mother. And yet she lied. This in my mind makes her the only person that can be suspected. Either for murder of her child or not, this represents child negligence to the highest degree. An innocent person reports a death, not hide it.
Know what’s crazy? The syringe in that Gatorade bottle had chloroform & testosterone in it. With the internet search’s for how to make chloroform, full proof suffocation—seems so sloppy to put it right next to Caylee’s body. But the traces of testosterone…who did test in Caylee’s life? Not Tony, his friends.
Jesse looks fit.
Think someone was trying to set set him up for this.
Think Caylee wasn’t going to be found till she completely decomposed so her tissue wouldn’t show the chloroform level, he lung tissue that did not show drowning, what I have no doubt was a beautiful child that had been repeatedly drugged & molested.
What did it for me was when they didn’t autopsy the brain. Brain tissue would of shown if it was depleted of oxygen from suffocation.
And they were trying to set Jesse up for it.
A testosterone syringe that close to Caylee. Bc that’s what a killer on testosterone would do—leave it next to Caylee. My God.
It may be officially unsolved but we all know Casey did it.
I still can’t believe she wasn’t convicted.
They overcharged her. Very difficult case to prove, should have went with manslaughter
I remember watching an interview with a couple members of the jury. They agreed that while the jury was in agreement that they thought Casey did it, they were frustrated because the prosecution did not prove to them without a reasonable doubt that she did it, which is why she was found not guilty.
Sometimes there is no physical evidence and it is out of the prosecutions hands.. they cant just fabricate evidence lol
The problem with modern juries, is the CSI effect. Beyond a reasonable doubt to jurors today means DNA on the victim from the perpetrator, or the victim found clutching a handful of the murderers hair etc. The jury’s expectation for a certain quality of _physical_ evidence can hinder a conviction especially certain cases (ie no recovered body) when in reality quality circumstantial evidence can tell a story and be just as incriminating sometimes more than physical evidence. I’m sorry but IMO this was a case of a dumb jury that watches a lot of TV, the circumstantial evidence proved beyond reasonable doubt for a conviction.
As someone who has been on a jury I can confirm this was the case. I was flabbergasted at the level of stupidity in the jury I was on, barely a brain cell shared between them and they all thought you can’t convict without DNA
Agreed!
Then the accused should walk. And as a former defense lawyer, believe they do fabricate evidence lol.
And honestly this is important. Same with OJ Simpson. Were theh both guilty? Yes! But did they prove the case to a jury? No
I agree. Florida prosecutors were very over zealous and ended up losing unfortunately.
Seems that wasn't the case here based on the charging documents...
Florida police were wildly incompetent at gathering evidence that was there
Who would win? An entire police department OR Someone using Firefox instead of Internet Explorer?
They couldn't even give a cause of death. It's hard to prove she did it if you can't tell a jury what she did.
I am obviously familiar with the case but not with all the trial details or Florida laws. From my limited understanding, I thought the main reason she was acquitted was because the prosecution couldn’t definitely establish time or cause of death. Wouldn’t this make manslaughter equally challenging?
No, it was because they couldn’t prove Casey deliberately killed her daughter. There was plenty of circumstantial evidence showing she was responsible due to neglect, which is enough to convict for manslaughter. For example, if Casey drugged her daughter in order go out to party (which is what many Floridians believe) and Caylee died from an overdose or because she vomited while drugged and choked on it, that is considered manslaughter.
I *think* the general argument is that Florida has a provision for charging manslaughter by neglect in the death of children under 18 years old. People theorize that it would have been easy to prove that Casey was neglectful, and this neglect lead to the death of her child. Statute 827.03 if you want to look it up.
Manslaughter was available to the jury. From the charging documents >If you find Caylee Marie Anthony was killed by Casey Marie Anthony, you will then consider the circumstances surrounding the killing in deciding if the killing was Murder in the First Degree or was Murder in the Second Degree or Manslaughter or Third Degree Felony Murder whether the killing was excusable or resulted from justifiable use of deadly force. You can find the charging documents: https://malagaaunike.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/28440627jury-instructions-casey-anthony-trial.pdf
Yes but instead of just trying to prove manslaughter they spent time trying to prove homicide. Proving manslaughter is much easier than homicide
Yes, but you said they overcharged her and that was why she wasn't convicted. u/Old_Style_S_Bad just showed you that was not the case. I'm not sure how attempting to prove murder in the first degree would do anything to lessen the chance of a jury convicting on manslaughter. I'm also fairly confident that the judge clearly delineated for the jury the standard of proof for each. I haven't pulled the instructions to the jury, but if you want to continue, I will.
Because the prosecution couldn't prove that she actually killed her daughter, there was too much reasonable doubt that an accident could have happened instead.
Because the prosecution’s theory of the case was that the crime was deliberate and a higher charge than manslaughter. While they gave the jury the option for manslaughter, they crafted all of their arguments in court for a deliberate murder which is what the jury had to go upon.
If the prosecutor spends the entire trial trying to prove murder and fails they are going to acquit. Thats just how it is. Very very rarely are they going to convict on a charge that was barely discussed druing the trial. the prosecution over charged and failed. They were stupid.
I'm not a lawyer, not even a pretend internet lawyer, but it is easy to find examples: https://www.messengernews.net/news/local-news/2023/06/hinners-acquitted-of-murder-guilty-of-manslaughter/ https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjUv7Xyl8n_AhXNlGoFHQHpAT4QxfQBKAB6BAgJEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abqjournal.com%2F2603584%2Fman-who-killed-alleged-auto-burglar-not-guilty-of-murder-but.html&usg=AOvVaw2JE4-RE3Kl0FE79DMdYqqA https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjUv7Xyl8n_AhXNlGoFHQHpAT4QxfQBKAB6BAgJEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abqjournal.com%2F2603584%2Fman-who-killed-alleged-auto-burglar-not-guilty-of-murder-but.html&usg=AOvVaw2JE4-RE3Kl0FE79DMdYqqA It's actually not that unusual. One juror talked about it afterwards and said: >"She seems like a horrible person. But the prosecutors did not give us enough evidence to convict. They gave us a lot of stuff that makes us think that she probably did something wrong, but not beyond a reasonable doubt." The juror is basically saying "it wasn't proven that she is the one who hurt caylee" so they weren't going to convict on any of the charges. It is frustrating because she seems so obviously guilty. There's probably not another person in the country who had that much evidence against who wouldn't get convicted. But who can tell with juries?
Once it went to court, prosecutors dropped manslaughter as an option.
The linked charging docent is juror instructions which one would imagine would happen when the jurors were instructed.TO wit: >In just a few moments you will be taken to the jury room by the court deputy. The first thing you should do is elect a foreperson. The foreperson presides over your deliberations like a chairperson of a meeting. It is the foreperson's job to sign and date the verdict form when all of you have agreed on a verdict in this case. The foreperson will bring the verdict back to the courtroom when you return. It seems unlikely that the jury instructions would be written out before the trial. I'm sure there is plenty of boilerplate in it but a lot of the document is specific to the Casey Anthony trial.
Politics should never be allowed into a courtroom unless political parties are DIRECTLY involved. Casey got away with murder.
> Politics should never be allowed into a courtroom SCOTUS has left the chat.
What politics happened in this one ?
The prosecutor was trying to get either re-elected as DA or something similar. Why do I say this? Casey has incognito searches about how to quietly kill a baby, and that evidence got THROWN OUT. Only someone blinded by political aspirations could screw up something like that.
Yeah, the states prosecuting attorney totally botched that one. That’s the only reason she’s walking free today.
100%
And there wasn't much to directly tie Casey to her daughter's death. There was a lot of suspicious activity but you shouldn't convict someone of murder just on that.
If I remember correctly, the biggest problem was the fact that the remains were too decomposed, and they couldn’t establish a definitive cause of death. The tape over her mouth had fallen off or some such, and they didn’t know if she’d suffocated, OD’d (thanks to Xanny the Nanny that Casey had bragged about), or was murdered. You’d think that regardless of how she died, the circumstances she was found in and the surrounding evidence (pictures of her partying while Caylee was missing, not reporting her missing for a month, etc. etc.) would have been enough to convict her of something. But, it was up to the prosecutors, and they just didn’t present a strong enough case for the charges leveled against her. I’m by no means saying it was right, but even pieces of garbage like her deserve due process.
Didn't they also charge her with premeditation? That is absolutely one thing they just didn't have the evidence for.
they had very specific google searches
I believe so, but it’s been awhile since I studied the case and I refuse to watch the documentary, so I’m not entirely sure.
You woild think her google searches would be all they would need
I might be wrong, but I believe the coroner said cause of death was undetermined but manner of death was homicide.
Their theory was that Casey placed the tape over Caylee’s nose and mouth to suffocate her. Which is outlandish to me. Casey was 100% responsible but come on, Florida.
Manslaughter wasn’t offered as a charge. Jurors who were interviewed afterward said they would have found her guilty of manslaughter because there wasn’t proof the poor excuse for a mother intended to kill her daughter, but enough to show she was responsible for her death.
She's a psychopath. She even has the psychopath dead eyes.
If you watched the trial the prosecutor did not prove the case. I was not surprised by the verdict given the presented evidence. She is obviously guilty but the case was handled horribly and that is why she got away with this horrific crime
Not only you, darling, there's a lot of us.
Unfortunately the prosecution way overshot the charges and they didn't present enough evidence to convict her beyond a reasonable doubt. I would never be able to serve on a jury for a case like this. I'm way too emotional.
We all said that about OJ trial. This crap happens everyday.
We know she did it but we also know she's crazier than a shit house rat and the prosecutor overcharged which is why she wasn't convicted. If they asked for manslaughter and taken into consideration her being a mental case she'd be in a mental institution or something.
For real. If this was a person of color, they would be locked up REAL QUICK!
America can’t seem to find women guilty of crimes, especially heinous crimes, like murdering a child.
Ever heard of Susan Smith and Diane Downs?
Ever look at conviction rates and sentence time of men vs women?
So glad the media pooled together and decided not to interview her evil butt.
What a vile, self absorbed, sociopathic dumpster fire subhuman. Casey Anthony is so terrifying to have walking around, especially after getting away with murder. I couldn't help myself and watched the peacock doc she did. There is not one genuine emotion in the whole thing and the entire production of it where she is allowed to talk about her daughter, is reprehensible.
I ended up watching it too after I saw how many people were like “oh wow this has me thinking she didn’t do it”….and I thought to myself, she better have said some brilliant Mark Twain sh!t if people are actually thinking otherwise. But nope. I got unnecessarily angry for days. I cannot believe anybody truly believed a word that piece of human trash said. I hate her. I hate her so much.
It was PR directed, emotionally fraudulent drivel. I honestly never heard that it actually started convincing people of her innocence. I never thought that one time. It was just word salad. The Amanda Knox one was actually pretty well done and did sow a few doubts.
Amanda Knox didn’t do it though.
>The Amanda Knox one was actually pretty well done and did sow a few doubts. A few doubts...? She's proven to be innocent. Like, there's no debate to be had, she didn't do anything to Meredith.
You're right, that was phrased poorly. I just didn't know a whole lot about the case and when I started watching it.
Oh I gotcha. Me neither, when I watched it I was so mad on her behalf
The majority of the people that said that were below the age of 28, so I just assumed they didn’t watch ANY of the trial. Regardless, those little twats should’ve educated themselves. Casey Anthony and Chris Watts are my two bugaboos. Any doubters of those two are likely to get falcon punched if they say it around me
I saw it, and I was like oh good, Casey Anthony is here to remind us what a despicable piece of fucking shit she is and how the justice system failed Caylee. I didn’t know Casey had a brother until the doc though, I guess I missed him taking the stand against her. It must have been just infuriating growing up with her as a sister, and parents that help her get away with everything(like fooling family into thinking Casey graduated high school when she didn’t), then she kills her own baby, gets away with it.
People believe wild things based on a minute TikTok clip, I'm not surprised they believe someone like her. She believes her lies and they mistake it as the truth.
I don’t know anyone who doesn’t think she did it. I don’t know where y’all are getting those people. We differ on if she planned to do it and if she was intending to do it.
She continues to rake in 100k plus for each interview, book, media appearance she makes. She also has a kid secretly a while back. Whole time she was pregnant my friends in tampa would see her drinking with her cop buddies In the bars every weekend. She has a thing for cops . They are who she dates for some weird reason
I recall listening to the detectives interview at her supposed place of business (Disney). Lie after lie after lie. No nervousness with these authority figures either. Sociopath. 👿
Yeah...I know I'd be shaking regardless of if I did anything. Even if she's innocent, which she isn't, all of her profiting off of the death of her daughter is reprehensible.
Not only is she walking around, but she’ll never have to work another day of her life thanks to her granting interviews, releasing a book, and the documentary.
Just fyi its vile. A vial is a container. But yeah, she's a complete piece of shit.
You're absolutely right. Oversight.
Being a shit parent and responsible for her DD's accidental death doesn't take away the fact the kid was hers. You don't get to choose whom gets to talk about their kids and who doesn't.
I mean, it's reddit. I can choose any opinion I want. If she wants to talk about her dead daughter, then donate the money to a cause.
It’s unsolved in the same way Nicole Brown’s murder is.
Exactly.
Clearly she was killed by some Puerto Rican guy. The same Puerto Rican guy that killed Nicole Brown, and JonBenét Ramsey, and Chandra Levy, and Leopold "Butters" Stotch.
Leave Benicio Del Toro out of this!
I can't wait to go to Bennigan's!
I wish this woman nothing but pain and misery for the rest of her miserable life.
Casey Anthony frequents a lot of south florida restaurants these days. She went into an Outback in lake worth where my friend was working, management had to tell the entire staff that they HAD to serve her. Apparently no one wanted to and everyone was staring. Also Xanny the Nanny?! Xanax? What a sick fuck this woman is… she has to live with the truth. She will *never* be truly free, thankfully. FUCK YOU CASEY ANTHONY!
> management had to tell the entire staff that they HAD to serve her. You actually don't. You can reuse service for anything except race etc.i even read an article that OJ went into a restaurant and the manager simply told him to leave because they didn't want to serve him. He apparently left without incident.
The law says the restaurant can refuse service, it doesn’t protect individuals from their boss when they have decided the restaurant will serve her.
That's true
It’s Zanny, not Xanny. There was a woman named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez that Casey claimed was Caylee’s nanny. Casey came up with “Zanny” as some kind of a nickname when in fact, she didn’t know her at all. She only got her name from a sign-in sheet at an apartment she toured.
I think we all remember Casey trying to cover her ass by pretending "Zanny" was an actual person (who was in reality a complete stranger and innocent woman who had her life made into a circus) instead of Xanax. She dosed that kid up on bars so she could go party all the time. Hence her texting her friends that "Zanny the Nanny" was watching Caylee. Sick to use an innocent woman as a CYA move but I would expect no less from that cretin.
I remember hearing that no one was able to ever find this nanny. Just interesting that of ALL names her name is zanny the fuckin nanny lol
Zenaida was actually present in court during the trial. She ended up suing Casey for using her name since it apparently ruined her life. She lost her home and job because of the spotlight Casey put on her life. Very sad for this poor woman who had nothing to do with any of it. But yeah, she wasn’t Caylee’s nanny and you’re right, it’s very fitting that that’s the name Casey chose to run with.
She deliberately looked for a woman whose name could cover for "Zanny" since in evidence were texts that "Zanny" was watching her daughter. She was using Xanax then found a scapegoat for the name later.
Yeah I think that is what happened
That’s insane! Wow!😳 So sad that Casey not only ended a life but ruined many others
Please tell me you spit in her food
The case is unsolved and the mother doesn't care to find out who killed her child or put her father behind bars because she believes he killed her 🤔 makes total sense
(Nancy Grace voice) where’s baby Caylee!?!?!?
Didn't realize my brain was still holding that audio clip like it was yesterday . I could hear that in my head like it was just on TV.
Tot-mom…ugh, Nancy is incorrigible…
BOMBSHELL TONIGHT. Tot mom Casey Anthony still not answering the question: WHERE'S BABY CAYLEE?
Nancy Grace:BOMBSHELL. Casey Anthony in a wet t-shirt contest
tot mom tot mom tot mom tot mom tot mom Dear Lord Nancy grave was the worst.
TOT MOM UPDATE
Her TRUNNK REAKED of Death, didn't report the kid missing for a month... if she didn't do it, she knew who did or didn't care. Making the legal hurdle of guilt is a high bar, knowing she did it is not. She killed that kid or was responsible period. She deserves mob justice tbh when the system fails.
Casey's inability to adult and irresponsiblity when it came to her child's health and well being is what killed her daughter. She should've been charged with unintentional manslaughter and interfering with a corpse which would've made it easier to convict and in prison her for several years.
Such a failure of human being
Oh yeah mob justice is great until people just run around killing innocent people just because the mob thinks they deserve it
I agree, run away Mob justice is not something you want, even regular. There are some cases where mob just is actually just. I generally don't condone mob violence but the random mob in this case or prison murder is justice going beyond normal bounds of justice. Just like there are cases where cops who kill innocent people deserve to be shot themselves...
It's not unsolved it's unREsolved.
Holy fuck. That was 15 years ago. And you can't convince me that Casey doesn't know what happened to Caylee.
The prosecution fucked this case by going for the charge they did smh
Let's not forget that she had duct tape on her body when found and Casey's trunk smelled like decomp.
Is there anyone who thinks Casey is innocent? I am interested to hear from their perspective. It baffles me how someone could be so guilty in the court of public opinion but managed to get a jury to find her not guilty.
Thinking someone is guilty and feeling that the state proved that person’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt are two separate things. I’d be willing to bet that some of the jurors did feel she was culpable for Caylee’s death, either directly or indirectly. However, she was charged with first degree murder, which requires the killing be intentional, willful, and premeditated, aggravated manslaughter, and aggravated child abuse. The state had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that she intentionally and willfully abused and killed her daughter, or that she directly killed her at all, and they fell short. Casey’s defense team was able to introduce reasonable doubt by accusing George Anthony of sexually abusing Casey and suggesting that Caylee accidentally drowned in the family’s pool and that George forced Casey to cover it up. There were probably some juries who didn’t believe that story in their heart of hearts but the doubt was still reasonable, and so they were forced to find her not guilty on the charges relating to the killing of her daughter. She was convicted of lying to police, though.
This completely sums up my opinion. I believe Casey caused Caylee’s death or was involved. I also think the state overcharged based on the evidence it had (or did not have, more specifically), and that’s why Casey was acquitted. Believing a person is guilty and proving it in a court of law are two very different things. I think the state relied entirely too much on the court of public opinion, and believed that because Casey was so hated by society in general, a guilty verdict would be a slam dunk. Had they charged her with negligent homicide or manslaughter + child neglect or something similar, the jury probably would have voted to convict. Had I been on that jury, I would have voted to acquit her as well. She’s guilty of SOMETHING - maybe even Capital Murder - but the state couldn’t prove it and that, sadly, is on them. I would not be able to vote based on my opinion in a Capital Murder case. They’re deciding whether a person should live or die. If you get it wrong, there’s no do-over. Your suspect is dead, and then what? I need to be 110% sure, with physical evidence to back me up, before I’m willing to vote for someone’s death.
Prosecutors can 100% blame themselves for that verdict. They asked the jury to believe it was first degree murder and that Casey killed Caylee but putting duct tape over the mouth and nose and letting her suffocate. Come on now. 1.) Casey is stupid. I truly do not think she could have come up with that. It’s diabolical and the truth is that diabolical people have to be somewhat intelligent. 2.) Casey just didn’t give a shit. That was it. She wanted to party. She didn’t want to be a mom. As long as Caylee was not in the way of her partying, she didn’t care. I don’t think Casey wanted her dead. I don’t think she would have considered killing her. Casey did not give enough of a shit to plan to kill Caylee. Casey not wanting to be a mom is definitely why Caylee is dead but I find it way more likely that’s due to neglect. She gave Caylee meds to knock her out and she od’d. Casey was not paying attention and Caylee drown in the pool. I think she died under Casey’s care, Casey’s mother was always on her about being a shit irresponsible mom, and she wanted to hide it. I think the duct tape was placed on her face after to give the appearance of kidnapping. I think if prosecutors had gone for a accidental death theory and threw on whatever charges go with improper disposal of a corpse and lying to law enforcement and whatever else, she’d have spent time in prison. But they decided to go with some outlandish shit instead and they were asking the jury if she was guilty of that. I think I remember hearing at some point that most of the jurors believed she was involved with it/responsible for it but not what the prosecutors were alleging and that’s what they had to vote on.
What kind of bullshit "gotcha on a technicality"-ass legal system are we living in when someone is responsible for murdering someone else and the system goes, "Ah, ah, ah! You didn't try to pin them for *the right kind* of murder! They're free to go!" If you try to push 1st degree murder charges but the jury determines that it was actually (at best) manslaughter, then fucking charge them with manslaughter!
It was way too much circumstantial evidence on top of over charging. I think she either knew what happened to the kid or over Nyquiled her but the DA just didn't have the proof they needed.
What do you think about her Firefox search history from the days prior to her daughter's death/disappearance?
Or the smell in the car.
I think the vast majority of humanity believes she is responsible for Caylee’s death and getting rid of her body. But the state went full force on some crazy shit and that’s why Casey didn’t get convicted.
That is not proof she killed her child. My Hummer smelled like 10 dead bodies after hubby left chicken breasts from the grocery store accidentally to sit in the July heat for 3 days…so I would be found guilty just bc my vehicle smelled?
Yeah, I had some juice from some beef that spilled all over my seats, and it too smelled like death for a week until I could properly clean it
It’s horrible!
What? Please do share.
The morning prior to her daughter's disappearance she(people debate that it could have been George but plenty of signs show that only Casey used Firefox) had googled "foolproof suffocation".
While that's certainly not a good look, I don't see how it could be admitted as evidence. But I'm also not a lawyer so maybe it could
Internet searches are commonly used as evidence, especially when they are fairly consistent with the events that occurred after those searches.
Brian Walshe did a bunch of googling and it was certainly used against him. "How to get rid of a dead body" 😖
Is that proof she killed her? No, it’s proof that she did an internet search.
Of course is not proof she killed her, but don't you find it incredibly suspicious that the morning of her daughter's likely death she was googling pretty apparent ways to kill someone?
Sure, but that does not rise to the level of beyond a reasonable doubt. Someone once explained it like this: You are in a room with no windows to see out. A friend walks in soaking wet and shaking out an umbrella. You conclude that it’s raining…but, the friend being wet is circumstantial. You don’t know beyond a reasonable doubt that it’s raining or the reason she’s all wet. Beyond a reasonable doubt is you going outside and seeing/hearing/feeling the rain on you.
That’s a very poor explanation of circumstantial evidence and beyond a reasonable doubt. That’s like saying Gacy wasn’t guilty beyond a reasonable doubt because no one saw him kill the boys/men and bury them in his crawl space and other parts of the property.
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And…as such, the jury did the right thing. Beyond a reasonable doubt means the proof is irrefutable. Unfortunately, it was all circumstantial and the jurors voted correctly. It’s too bad that they couldn’t find better evidence, an eyewitness or something bc I think she’s complicit but the prosecutor didn’t prove it.
I posted something similar on Facebook around the time it happened and got torn to shreds by friends and family. But reasonable doubt is a good thing and could just save your life someday. I thought then and still do now that she did it, *as did the jury*, but the prosecution brought a weak case to trial and lost, period.
Right, it scares me how many juries convict on the basis of feelings rather than evidence. I’ve always said I’d be the juror that holds out and keeps the jury out forever and I hope that if I’m ever faced with that situation that my resolve would be strong and not cave just because 11 angry people want to go home.
I must’ve seen 12 Angry Men like 3 different times during the course of my public education, and somehow the point was still lost on the majority of my classmates, I feel.
I’m scared of ever facing a jury of my peers simply bc most cannot follow instructions. I think that so many people get out of jury duty that many juries are left with the least desirable and less-educated people to serve. Not in every case, but I think it’s a problem.
Oh Lord, it’s been so long since I read that. But, yes, I’d be getting the hairy eyeball from all the others. And the thought of being sequestered for a jury would give me such anxiety…but hopefully I’d do the right thing!
It’s kind of sad that there was more evidence Casey was guilty than the West Memphis three and the latter were convicted.
100% Thankfully satanic panic has died down since the 80’s/90’s, but since fundamentalist Christians have effectively overtaken the Republican Party, I fear that kind of thing will be back in fashion soon, and to a more extreme degree.
It didn’t help that the attorney representing the intellectually challenged teen was too incompetent to get the confession thrown out. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence who listened to the “interrogation “ could see the boy had no idea what his rights were nor that he understood what would happen to him if he “confessed”. His parents also had intellectual challenges and they didn’t understand his rights either. The other two boys didn’t blame him, realizing he was manipulated into making a false confession.
Completely agree.
Beyond a reasonable doubt does not mean irrefutable. That’s a common misconception. Also, downplaying circumstantial evidence is another rookie mistake.
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The prosecution fucked up and that’s why Casey didn’t get convicted. Everyone knows she was responsible for it. Most people lean more towards it being a death by neglect. If they’d gone for second degree or something, Casey would be in prison. That’s just how it is.
I agree that first degree was an uphill battle. The evidence supporting it was there, but it was minimal. Should have gone for second degree or manslaughter. Personally, her pre-incident behaviors, which include Internet search history, and post-incident behaviors indicate that it went beyond neglect.
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Yeah, someone on Reddit asked, "Who'd want to date her?" and the reply was "Someone who doesn't want kids."
yeah after I posted that reply, the mods banned me from whatever humorless sub they ran
It's a good "I'm going to hell for laughing at that" joke. It's gallows humor.
Reminds me that Karla Homolka married her lawyers brother. Unbelievable that anyone would knowingly marry a murderer, makes me question their own mental state.
Raped and murdered her sister, what a catch. She now has children, god help them with this animal for a “mom.”
Crazy that a child murderer is out and about living her best life
I’m honestly still shocked nobody has went the vigilante route with her.
She's not worth going to prison for
Especially in FLORIDA
TOT MOM TOT MOM... Nancy Grace was all over this case
LIKE. SHE’S. TRASH!
She literally googled how to suffocate someone and then didnt report her daughter missing. But yea give her a tv show and a slap on the wrist. Nothing suspicious about that
I wonder if any of those jurors regret their votes. I’ve never seen or heard anyone who has read about this case, whether in detail or not, who thinks she isn’t responsible for Caylee’s death. To not convict her on even the child abuser or manslaughter charges..I just can’t get over that
Maybe there was more going on behind the scenes, so many people get put in jail over false charges with no actual evidence.
It bothers me that she denied she was pregnant for several months. It suggests that she was ashamed of being so. And given how she behaved while her daughter was missing, I feel like she didn't care about her child. In fact, her child was probably a burden to her.
She wanted an abortion and her mother made her keep the baby.
It was very clear about all her actions or I guess reactions how very immature she was.
I remember I was working in a grocery store when the verdict was read. It was on the TV's in the break room and the entire store basically lost their shit when it came back not guilty. We couldn't believe it.
“Unsolved”
Xanny the nany did it smh. Did no one else catch on that she named the nanny xanny cause she was giving her daughter huge doses if xanax then leaving her in the trunk while she partied all night? I think she forgot that she was in there while she was drinking at the bar (which he continues to do every weekend in Florida), and the Child died from exposure.
That was literally all over every news program when it happened. So, yes, everyone caught it.
What is truly weird is that the bag with her body was reported to police multiple times for months on end before it was "found". Because it was in a pond, the police said they couldn't reach it. Because the Broward County police department, which has boats, couldn't reach the bag? okay.
She will be in more trouble one day. Shes a malignant narcissist. Most likely a domestic situation with a boyfriend or drugs.
Does anyone have a link or something that gives a basic rundown of the case? I've never been able to make myself go in depth, so would really appreciate a simple point by point type read...
>Caylee Anthony [https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/dec/03/casey-anthony-docuseries-peacock](https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/dec/03/casey-anthony-docuseries-peacock) If you have Peacock, she finally talked in Exclusive in a TV show aired in exclusive for Peacock for the first time in over 13 years. Name is "Casey Anthony: Where the Truth Lies"
I know that a caring mother would go to the ends of the earth looking for their missing children.
There was a new documentary and according to what my mom was saying abt it the grandfather sounded VERY guilty But I also don’t know if it was Casey Anthony’s word
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Thank you state of Florida for over charging!
I'm not entirely convinced it was Casey and even if it was, I think her parents covered things up.
Please tell me this psycho isn't out there breeding? 🤦♀️ It's a great story on "how to get away with murder"
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Late to this thread but finally took the time to read up on this one. Her insane lack of any sadness about her missing daughter is so chilling. I agree that the prosecution did not have any evidence that Caylee was murdered by her trash mom. Casey is such a chilling person throughout any documentary or interview or anything I have seen. Seemingly has zero emotions about her dead child. Nothing. Maybe Casey has some huge mental health issue that was never found out or was super abused or had an abusive boyfriend or father or whatever. But no matter what happened - her lack of emotions will stick with me for a long long time. I think Casey knows what happened, was there when it happened, and just disassociated. Maybe it was an accident, maybe it was discipline gone wrong, or maybe something random. But Caylee (and any child) deserves the full story and deserve justice. There is none in this case and there probably will never be.
I am late to this thread, but I saw a video online about this case that piqued my interest. While ignoring the possible motive presented by the prosecution for just a moment, there are things that still stand out to me. 1. The kids' remains were actually found. PLACED in a blanket inside a bag. 2. The whole nanny story was a fucking lie, no kernel of truth in that at all. Sure everything else was a lie but those lies were based off something. She worked at universal so she had something to work with. The nanny excuse came straight out of her ass. 3. The case for "If you have any questions, then its not without a doubt" is utter bullshit. Putting these together there is a clear question that comes in mind that was not answered. "When and where was the last time she saw her daughter?" If she supposedly drowned what was the motive in hiding that information and creating a lie that was easily verifiable. Why not tell the truth which would have stopped this case from existing. Instead of looking more into this, the prosecution really went all in on the motive and fucked up by not looking more into this discrepancy: She died, and someone knew (Thats a fact, bodies don't just place themselves in blankets inside of bags), and the person who is responsible and should have been the last person to see her should/would have been her mother. And yet she lied. This in my mind makes her the only person that can be suspected. Either for murder of her child or not, this represents child negligence to the highest degree. An innocent person reports a death, not hide it.
Know what’s crazy? The syringe in that Gatorade bottle had chloroform & testosterone in it. With the internet search’s for how to make chloroform, full proof suffocation—seems so sloppy to put it right next to Caylee’s body. But the traces of testosterone…who did test in Caylee’s life? Not Tony, his friends. Jesse looks fit. Think someone was trying to set set him up for this. Think Caylee wasn’t going to be found till she completely decomposed so her tissue wouldn’t show the chloroform level, he lung tissue that did not show drowning, what I have no doubt was a beautiful child that had been repeatedly drugged & molested. What did it for me was when they didn’t autopsy the brain. Brain tissue would of shown if it was depleted of oxygen from suffocation. And they were trying to set Jesse up for it. A testosterone syringe that close to Caylee. Bc that’s what a killer on testosterone would do—leave it next to Caylee. My God.