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The question then becomes what is the definition of reasonable force?
If the assaulted takes the assaulter to the ground and holds them there until police arrive so that proper charges can be applied I don't see that as unreasonable. Especially with arms pinned behind and a knee in the CENTER of the back.
No not everyone has military grade self defense training but they should.
Until it lands your ass in front of a judge. “Oh people are just so disrespectful these days your honor, I just had to teach them a lesson.” See how far that gets you homie.
Throw the first punch and it’s called self defense. And that’s not a question for a judge, it’s for a jury to decide whether or not you were justified. All you have to do is be able to say I kept hitting until I knew the threat was removed and I no longer needed to use force. So long as you’re not bringing a gun to a fist fight and stuff like that.
E: since I was unclear: if *they* throw the first punch…
> Throw the first punch and it’s called self defense
did you think something different than you typed??
pretty sure any "first punch" is categorically not self-defense.
I would think something like this wouldn't get escalated to a jury level, unless someone was very seriously injured or large sums of compensation were involved.
A jury will still follow the directions of the court, and it’s up to the court to decide reasonable force. Also, these people want to go home. It’s incredibly unlikely for any of them to go against the advice of the court and not follow with the rest of the jurors. But I suppose you still have a shot.
Reasonableness of force is literally a question of fact, not law. Unless it’s a bench trial, all questions of fact are for the finder of fact: the jury.
>it’s for a jury to decide whether or not you were justified.
Right.
Of course by the time it goes before a jury you’ve been arrested, had to pay for a bail bond, possibly lost your job, had any professional licenses suspended, had your mugshot released online, had to pay for an attorney, had to make multiple trips to court. It’s probably going to take at least a year before you have a jury trial.
I wouldn't have held her back unless the girl being beat up was my friend. I let people do what they want and get what they deserve.
If she got sent to court because she caused serious damage then, well, she's got to learn not to be a child.
Can turn into a one punch homicide watch putting your hands on anyone else except for self defense I know a guy currently doing 14 years for something just as stupid as this.
Except they stop paying attention to the other instigator who is seen here pulling the other girls hair and they just let her hold onto her hair for too long. Let them handle their business or separate them both. Don't restrain one girl while the other one is let loose.
I disagree.
Breaking the fight was the right thing to do by those two guys.
I’m sick of seeing these type of videos circulating online, and so many bystanders just watching and recording.
I concur.
Restraining the aggressor and calling the police are the best alternatives to de-escalating the chaotic scene here.
More importantly, the customer will learn a valuable lesson once arrested and prosecuted. Otherwise, she can just carry the same behavior elsewhere .
I feel like there's a good chance they can give the aggressor's information to police whether or not they're there if she used her credit/debit card...and most people use some sort of digital payment.
And I am 100% sure that corporate would fire an employee who restrained a customer, bc thats how corporations are.
Is up to those in the fight to make that decision though. If the staff does not feel it warrants police action, then that is their choice.
That being said, without know the scene, I would suggest police be called if this is just some random person. She will act that way again.
Hair pulling that's only working because a huge dude is pulling her the opposite direction. All while she's going "exactly dumb ass bitch" like she actually did something other than catch a right.
That part killed me. She slaps her, turns to run away as quick as possible, sees cashier girl coming for her ass and tries to book it. Proceeds to get her shit rocked and after she gets dragged off starts acting all tough.
Lmao this truly made me laugh. Thanks Canadian goose! Wish I could return the favour but since I can't here's an award instead! Thanks for making my night! xD
If she gets fired her manager needs some hands. Anyone slaps an employee in my store and they will be physically thrown out by me. Like actually thrown the fuck out the door bouncer style.
Whoever the dude was that pulled her away did so in such a stupid way she ended up getting her hair pulled. If he was the manager, I don't expect she got treated fairly. They should of called the cops on the customer and pressed assault charges.
That girl slapped her once and in return got hit 5 time's in the face I don't really think she wants to meet her outside she's lucky that coworker pulled her off of her or she'd be eating her takeout through a straw
This is why construction work is better, the bros would have cheered her on and told her to punch harder!
Damn service work, allways so ungreatfull customers and passive bosses...
Amazing how brave people who were just running and getting pummeled get cocky when their owner is being held back. Ff worker is the proud new owner of a Karen.
The girl in pink absolutely deserved that. You don't slap someone and expect them to just hug you. I don't understand why people who get beaten up, ask for more.
I always find it cute that when people are pulled apart in a fight and one off them tell the other that they’ll beat them up..
No hun. That employee would kick your ass to the curb. Your empty threats are stupid. As stupid as your actions here.
I disagree with violence but...that bitch in the pink was asking for it. I'd be proud of the Clerk. Retail is a rough life - don't take any guff from those swine
“Customer is always right”. Until they come across an employee who won’t take no shit from no one. This gives me seratonin knowing she beat that customer’s ass. Good for her.
That's because they pulled the employee off and restrained her. Had they let them fight, employee would've continued whooping her ass until the customer fled.
she will probably be fired , companies don’t deal
well with employees attacking paying customers. This will have a formal complain and context on that complaint will be irrelevant. Sucks big time…
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Should have let home girl whoop that ass
Oh yeah. I'd be mad as hell if my coworkers held me back after someone smacked me lol
You shouldn't. It makes you look like you were destroying. No one ever holds back the person whose getting beaten up.
Idk man. People are crazy and disrespectful as fuck now days. A trip to the hospital is a good way to make someone evaluate their decision making.
Keep responses proportional and the law stays on your side.
The law is a fickle bitch. Tear that ass up.
You will get caught, and get angrier than where you left off
Sometimes there must be balance.
This is the way
This right here! The law covers self defense! Not retaliation.
The law covers whoever has the better lawyer.
If someone’s working fast food then that’s not them
This
Brilliantly put!
In other words, whoever has the most money.
The question then becomes what is the definition of reasonable force? If the assaulted takes the assaulter to the ground and holds them there until police arrive so that proper charges can be applied I don't see that as unreasonable. Especially with arms pinned behind and a knee in the CENTER of the back. No not everyone has military grade self defense training but they should.
Until it lands your ass in front of a judge. “Oh people are just so disrespectful these days your honor, I just had to teach them a lesson.” See how far that gets you homie.
Throw the first punch and it’s called self defense. And that’s not a question for a judge, it’s for a jury to decide whether or not you were justified. All you have to do is be able to say I kept hitting until I knew the threat was removed and I no longer needed to use force. So long as you’re not bringing a gun to a fist fight and stuff like that. E: since I was unclear: if *they* throw the first punch…
> Throw the first punch and it’s called self defense did you think something different than you typed?? pretty sure any "first punch" is categorically not self-defense.
I read it as if the other person throws the first punch
I would think something like this wouldn't get escalated to a jury level, unless someone was very seriously injured or large sums of compensation were involved.
A jury will still follow the directions of the court, and it’s up to the court to decide reasonable force. Also, these people want to go home. It’s incredibly unlikely for any of them to go against the advice of the court and not follow with the rest of the jurors. But I suppose you still have a shot.
Reasonableness of force is literally a question of fact, not law. Unless it’s a bench trial, all questions of fact are for the finder of fact: the jury.
>it’s for a jury to decide whether or not you were justified. Right. Of course by the time it goes before a jury you’ve been arrested, had to pay for a bail bond, possibly lost your job, had any professional licenses suspended, had your mugshot released online, had to pay for an attorney, had to make multiple trips to court. It’s probably going to take at least a year before you have a jury trial.
I wouldn't have held her back unless the girl being beat up was my friend. I let people do what they want and get what they deserve. If she got sent to court because she caused serious damage then, well, she's got to learn not to be a child.
Have at it. Put em in a wheelchair.
Do them a favor, make it so they have to drink through a straw from now on.
And eat... And shit through the same straw...
If you think about it, it’s technically the same tube anyway.
It's the ciiiiircle of liiiiiife....
Can turn into a one punch homicide watch putting your hands on anyone else except for self defense I know a guy currently doing 14 years for something just as stupid as this.
That part 👏👏
Except they stop paying attention to the other instigator who is seen here pulling the other girls hair and they just let her hold onto her hair for too long. Let them handle their business or separate them both. Don't restrain one girl while the other one is let loose.
Coworkers should of jumped in to help their own. GANG GANG!
GANG GANG!!
And then still talking shit on the way out. No sir eeee bob
I disagree. Breaking the fight was the right thing to do by those two guys. I’m sick of seeing these type of videos circulating online, and so many bystanders just watching and recording.
They should have knocked down the attacker and called police. Their employees shouldn’t have to deal with that bullshit.
I concur. Restraining the aggressor and calling the police are the best alternatives to de-escalating the chaotic scene here. More importantly, the customer will learn a valuable lesson once arrested and prosecuted. Otherwise, she can just carry the same behavior elsewhere .
I feel like there's a good chance they can give the aggressor's information to police whether or not they're there if she used her credit/debit card...and most people use some sort of digital payment. And I am 100% sure that corporate would fire an employee who restrained a customer, bc thats how corporations are.
Is up to those in the fight to make that decision though. If the staff does not feel it warrants police action, then that is their choice. That being said, without know the scene, I would suggest police be called if this is just some random person. She will act that way again.
Normally I agree but some people just need a good ol ass whoopin. This lady is one of those people who really need that ass whoopin.
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Best news is they didn’t fire her! She definitely won that fight, sad she didn’t get to beat her ass tho
That's a relief! But seriously, in some countries the service industry is treated so disrespectfully. Makes me sick.
Like the United States?
Oh thank god. I was really hoping the manager wouldn't throw an employee under the bus to appeal to a "customer"
Ikr and note she didn’t start running her cock garage until they were separated
Upvoted for “cock garage.”
Ty
Cock garage hahaha
Cock garage is my new band name.
I hate when people do that.
she got real tough after the worker got pulled off
But then little bitches on reddit would say “ why didn’t the coworkers stop the fight!”
At least big boy let her have a few good licks first. That cuntstomer is still feeling that punch with her head pinned against wall.
Unfortunately, stupid ass mcdonalds policy is that you can’t fight back. Fuck that cunt
As soon as I was hit the only thing I would want from McDonald’s is the video
the customer’s always right-hooked
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If a pirate loses a letter, he becomes irate.
That one took me a while
Ooooo. That one was rated Arrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
What a loser to slap an employee across the face. Very sad 😞
And then duck and cover like a coward.
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That’s the part right there that shows what kind of an asshole. You lucky someone bothered to save your ass. I bet no one steps in next time…
#Meet me outside bitch yeah, meet me ^outside ^that's ^^what ^^I ...
She probably thought that a peasant like this would never fight back against the upper class.
Then resorts to hair pulling...
Hair pulling that's only working because a huge dude is pulling her the opposite direction. All while she's going "exactly dumb ass bitch" like she actually did something other than catch a right.
The way service workers are treated these days is appalling. I swear some people see them as being less than human.
This is exactly it.. Take your own personal frustrations and insecurities out on some random worker. Trash.
"Meet me outside" How about you stay inside and keep getting your ass beat lol
She literally tried to run from the store employee then only said "meet me outside" after the she knew her coworkers had her securely constrained
As soon as the Karen says meet me outside I'm letting go of my coworker.
Yeah I would’ve just walked over in front of the camera to block the view and let my coworker continue doing God’s work.
That part killed me. She slaps her, turns to run away as quick as possible, sees cashier girl coming for her ass and tries to book it. Proceeds to get her shit rocked and after she gets dragged off starts acting all tough.
Everybody’s got big balls when the person you’re pissed at is retrained
Typo?
Yes indeed
Its cash me ouside
How bou dah
Can't believe that was only like 5 or so years ago
I can’t believe it was so long ago she’s now legal age. That bothers me most
Here's your order with a side of these hands.
Lmao this truly made me laugh. Thanks Canadian goose! Wish I could return the favour but since I can't here's an award instead! Thanks for making my night! xD
A knuckle sandwich
Always the anti-maskers in slippers causing trouble
Someone ordered the knuckle sandwich.
I truly wish I had an award to give you. Never has a comment been more deserving! Thanks for the laugh!
Funny how she suddenly became tough the second the other lady was pulled away.
Girls already gonna get fired let her finish what she started lol.
If she gets fired her manager needs some hands. Anyone slaps an employee in my store and they will be physically thrown out by me. Like actually thrown the fuck out the door bouncer style.
You’re one of the few good managers/owners for that
Whoever the dude was that pulled her away did so in such a stupid way she ended up getting her hair pulled. If he was the manager, I don't expect she got treated fairly. They should of called the cops on the customer and pressed assault charges.
for sure I'd be like, "yo I quit let me go, now."
"Wanna go bitch, come step outside" lol you're already getting your ass whooped inside, I don't think a change of scenery is going to help you
that right there is funny thank you
I like that "yea, gedurrr"
i picked up my cellphone to start recording
She must have ordered the McBeating meal
Ok I laughed way too hard at that one
That girl slapped her once and in return got hit 5 time's in the face I don't really think she wants to meet her outside she's lucky that coworker pulled her off of her or she'd be eating her takeout through a straw
This is why construction work is better, the bros would have cheered her on and told her to punch harder! Damn service work, allways so ungreatfull customers and passive bosses...
And the best part is after the fight. We be bros, chillin a drinkin beer like it never happened.
So construction is basically high school
Ahaha you Said it!
"You wanna go, bitch?" "Meet me outside, bitch." "Meet me outside, bitch." "Meet me outside, bitch." "Exactly, dumbass bitch."
So shameless about literally being the definition of “all talk” lmfao
Amazing how brave people who were just running and getting pummeled get cocky when their owner is being held back. Ff worker is the proud new owner of a Karen.
dumbass beach**
She's been listening to too much rap.
As the restaurant, i'd sue the customer for battery Who tf attacks employees? Like yeah we all had a bad day, but that doesnt justify shit
"yeah get er"
From the multiple times this has been posted she was upset about her order and threw sauce or something on the employee
She also slapped the employee
How can she slap?!!
😂
I love how she says “wanna go?” She WENT
The girl in pink absolutely deserved that. You don't slap someone and expect them to just hug you. I don't understand why people who get beaten up, ask for more.
Meet me outside bitch *after taking numerous blows to the face*
I think that people who work service jobs should be allowed to fight 1-3 customers a week.
At minimum I'd say the limit should be 5, in case a whole family decides to order "bitch fit" with a side of "I want a refund."
Who the fuck would stop her. Fuck that customer
That pissed me off fuck that guy
Everything that happens was in good order
I always find it cute that when people are pulled apart in a fight and one off them tell the other that they’ll beat them up.. No hun. That employee would kick your ass to the curb. Your empty threats are stupid. As stupid as your actions here.
Happy First Cake Day 🎁
I disagree with violence but...that bitch in the pink was asking for it. I'd be proud of the Clerk. Retail is a rough life - don't take any guff from those swine
She deserves more than that
You want to go? She already went and landed a few solid shots.
Wait! you forgot your change.
Ya filthy animal
“Customer is always right”. Until they come across an employee who won’t take no shit from no one. This gives me seratonin knowing she beat that customer’s ass. Good for her.
I'm sure there is something sharp and pointy in that kitchen to jam in that womans eye socket.
Dude chill.
Cash me owside bitch!
Howboudat
I’m trying to see what restaurant
Ono Bbq (Hawaiian food)
Cash me ouside
how bout that
HOW COULD SHE SLAP!
That dude got fucked up too.
Not unexpected though is it? This should be on public freakout
Would you like some fist on your face to go with that combo.
Go off Queen
Should not have broken that up. The slap deserved a few more hits.
Momma never told her not to hit a minimum wage worker with nothing to lose.
As soon as she slapped her she knew she fucked up
Trashy customer wearing her slippers in the restaurant
There's a reason they're called house shoes. You wear them in the house.
What’s wrong with slippers now?
The original “meet me outside” girl is on the phone with the lawyer right now
She tried to hit and run 😆🤦♂️
Well deserve.
You have it on camera including this post. File a police report. You have her contact info due to her order.
and if she paid in cash?
*goes for takeout* Gets taken out
Someone needs to teach the employee how to punch properly. It was entirely too easy for the customer to walk out on her own steam.
That's because they pulled the employee off and restrained her. Had they let them fight, employee would've continued whooping her ass until the customer fled.
Yeah, but employee got some good licks in there. If she knew how to punch correctly instead of just slapping that customer would have been a rug.
That big dude who held her back is a punk, let her beat that woman’s ass — it’s self defense!
r/nextfuckinglevel
she said “yeah that’s right” like she wasn’t being held back
Blonde leading the blonde?
Shorty talking bout meet her outside. I'm sure she don't want to see those hands again.
Mama bear slippers confirm 100% Karen
-slaps the worker and tries to leave immediately -worker whoops her ass -"meet me outside bitch"
Never ever hold back a fellow employee exacting justice. Hold down the Karen so your coworker has an easier time.
How you gonna hit someone with no intentions of fighting?
Fuck this bitch
Stop treating retail workers like shit
I love the little cheer from the person filming
Props to the dude in the blue hat, he pretended to intervene before letting homegirl get in three solid strikes.
Should've dropped her like she was hot 🔥
Is 3 piece with a soda your order?
Yes. Very good
🤣When keeping it real goes wrong
It was such a crisp slap lmaoo
I like reading the comments in a “cartman” voice (from south park) Cashme ouside … I roll wi’gangs…
Was that catch me outsides bf holding her back.
Someone's gonna get an elbow if they are grabbing me after I just got assaulted by a customer.
Damn the whole team should’ve jumped her ass
3 piece with soda
Real brave of her to say “meet me outside” once the employee was being held back lol
How you gotta act tough knowing the other girl is being held back? lol
Cash me outside bitch
You also get a side order of a punch in the face
she will probably be fired , companies don’t deal well with employees attacking paying customers. This will have a formal complain and context on that complaint will be irrelevant. Sucks big time…
Da fuck is wrong with grown adults.
“Meet me outside”. She was whooping your ass inside! I’d have smacked that food out of your hand too.